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Registering Vehicle in SD
« on: October 28, 2015, 03:26:16 PM »
We have decided to start fulltiming in about a year or so after we sell everything including the house.  I plan to keep working in MI until the house sells but my husband is already retired.  We found a coach to buy now and would like to register it in SD even though we are currently residents of MI.  The sales tax, registration and insurance are all lower in SD.  I need to maintain MI residency but was wondering about getting the SD address now and registering it there and actually changing our DL license in about a year or so.  I know this is technically not the thing to do but was wondering how many people do it and what the chances of getting caught really are.  Since my husband is already retired, he could change his DL to SD now if we had to.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 06:19:34 PM »
During a discussion with the owner of my local RV dealership last week, he said I could go online and register as a corporation in Maine for $380.  He said that way I pay no sales tax on my RV and that the license fee is only $30 a year.  I don't mean to hijack your thread, but I am curious if this is true.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 07:22:51 PM »
Jomo;

I'm not an expert, but we just moved from NY to PA.  You cannot have two DL, what address will you give the DMV in SD? I am sure they will want a address.  Same with insurance. We sold our home in Oct 2014, and stilled used our NY address till we had a home in PA. July 2015.  DMV in PA would not issue a license with out a address and mail to that address.  It all falls down to homeland security. 

The states are always looking for ways to recoup lost money. Examples would be non payment of taxes.  A dealer will tell you anything to sell a RV, car, or boat.  Talk to a CPA and ask what happens when the IRS, or State comes and inquires about your tax shelter.

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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 02:35:10 AM »
Hi,
During a discussion with the owner of my local RV dealership last week, he said I could go online and register as a corporation in Maine for $380.  He said that way I pay no sales tax on my RV and that the license fee is only $30 a year.  I don't mean to hijack your thread, but I am curious if this is true.

A little googling seems to indicate it's not: http://www.maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/salestax/salestax.html

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Sales Tax. The sales tax rates in effect through December 31, 2015 are: 5.5% (general rate), 8% (lodging, meals and liquor), and 10% (short-term automobile rentals). The tax rate on lodging will increase from 8% to 9% on January 1, 2016.

I'm not an expert, but [...] The states are always looking for ways to recoup lost money. Examples would be non payment of taxes.  A dealer will tell you anything to sell a RV, car, or boat.  Talk to a CPA and ask what happens when the IRS, or State comes and inquires about your tax shelter.

Tax shelter wonderful, peace of mind priceless.

I'm not an expert either, but what Tin Man says makes perfect sense to me.

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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 08:58:45 AM »
Going back to the original question.. In order to register a vehicle in SD you must have your mailing address there and become a citizen of that state.This will include changing your driver's license to that state.  It cannot be a post office box #, it has to be a physical address. Our friends at the IRS requires this.
There are companies that will rent you a physical address where you can have your mail sent to and they will forward it to where ever you are.    The reason to move you address to SD if you full time is that there is no state income tax.  There are several, SD, Texas and Florida are the most popular.

As far as getting an LLC in a different state to avoid paying your state's sales tax.  i know several people who have done it.  7% or more on these rigs is a lot of money. The way it's done , as explained to me. a lawyer in Wy. sets up a LLC(Limited Liability Company) with you as sole member.  The RV is purchased by the LLC in WY.  where there is no or little tax to title it.  When you bring it back to your state you need to move the LLC's address to your state or have the title put into your name so you can license it. When you fill in the spot for the cost of the unit you write "NO CONSIDERATION".  Thus no sales tax is charged by your state.     

Would your state would come back after you later is the question. Having been in business and being constantly checked on people/companies/farmers who claim sales tax exemption, they do check and they do question the purchaser and the state will go to court to collect the tax. Check with an attorney in your state and see.

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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 09:24:01 AM »
You won't need an LLC if your husband can establish himself in SD, e.g. obtain a legal address, get driving license, etc. There are SD law firms that will help him get set up, and he can then buy the RV and title it there, paying SD fees and taxes.  If you want the coach in both your names, it would be easiest if also got an SD driving license, but I don't think it is required by SD. Using an LLC might be a way to get around that - the SD attorney could advise on that aspect. What they cannot advise about is your MI tax situation.

Your potential issue is bringing the coach back to MI. If it's in the state 30 days, they are going to want it registered there, and since you would still be a MI resident, they have you over a barrel for the taxes as well. Can you leave the coach outside the state, except for brief periods? That might be sufficient. You probably need to consult a MI attorney or CPA on this, since the situation is not clear cut.

You said you need to maintain MI residency, but I'm not sure if you are using "residency" in a legal sense or just saying you need to physically reside in MI for a while longer. There are subtle differences.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 09:49:57 AM »
It took us 2 days to change our drivers license, motorhome, and  toad registration from PA to SD. We went to "MyHomeAddress.com" in Emery, SD.  They provided all the forms, correctly filled out and directed us to the proper state agency offices to file the paper work. They provide us with a physical mailing address in Emery, SD. We have now been Emery residents for three years and have only been there 2 days in the entire time.

The process of becoming a SD resident was painless, surprising inexpensive, and easy. However, your physical presence is required to do the job.

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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 12:29:38 PM »
Just wondering, does the state of SD require your vehicle to be inspected?. If so you will have to visit the state for that. If not your golden.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 12:46:56 PM »
Regarding registering in a state other than the state where your primary residense is:

Can you do it: Yes.. Done all the time.
Should you do it?  Well. now that is a very good quesiton..  Let me put it this way.

There is/was a song (Skip A Rope) one of the lines "Cheating on your taxes don';t it feel cool / What's that you said about the Golden Rule"

Well, it may feel cool to cheat the tax man... but if the Tax man figures out you cheated him.. Well. it is going to get very very hot.. As in warrants and fines and fees and so on often far exceeding what you saved.

So, bearing that in mine, and the fact that SOME states have already cracked down on this, and others have at the very least considered it... Make your decision. 

But yes, you can do it.. What I do not know is how legal it is.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 01:13:34 PM »
Many full-time RVers join Escapees which is based in Livingston, Texas.  Once a member you can become a legal resident of Texas which includes a valid address for vehicle registration, insurance, voting, etc.  In other words, you establish "domicile" there.  This is a legal concept that can trip you up if you're not careful.

Just so you are aware, the various states frown upon having your vehicles registered in one state with a driver's license from another state.  Advancements in computer technology have made it much easier for the states to cross-check these things so people are getting caught and prosecuted for tax evasion among other things.  You can't have a domicile in one state (especially one that is essentially a post office box) and your spouse have another one in another state - unless of course you actually are physically living in two different states which happens sometimes.  The point is that you need to be very careful how you do this so research it well and do it right so you don't need to keep looking over your shoulder wondering if you'll be caught.

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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 01:52:07 PM »
Just wondering, does the state of SD require your vehicle to be inspected?. If so you will have to visit the state for that. If not your golden.

No inspection was required for us.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 05:19:45 PM »
That's good that you don't need an inspection in SD. Was figuring on changing my address there once I get on the road, but also was wondering if when you need a renewal on your DL if it goes by your birth date. Probably does I think, but don't want to have to go back in January. Anybody know? Maybe Texas is better for me.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2015, 09:07:38 PM »
You can actually register a vehicle in SD without being there if you gave an address there, (including PMB) AND will be in SD to obtain a drivers license within either 3 or 6 months. I am sure your mail provider can help with this.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 06:41:49 AM »
3-6 months is a big enough window to miss the bad weather. Thanks! Will look into it further.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 08:26:01 AM »
Something to think about, the oil boom is over (for now). The politicians are going to need to replace the lost income.  Things could be changing. 
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2015, 09:05:16 AM »
Something to think about, the oil boom is over (for now). The politicians are going to need to replace the lost income.  Things could be changing.

Wrong state.  North Dakota is the one with the Bakken oil fields.  We lived in SD for 9 years and long to go back but age is becoming a factor.  Great place, great people and politicians seem to work for 'the folks' in the smaller areas.  After paying 8.34 percent sales tax in Missouri (state, county, city), SD would be a nice place to register (and live for us).  I recall the motor vehicle sales tax to be 3 percent max, no state income tax but property tax is a bit higher than normal (whatever normal is).
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2015, 09:09:45 AM »
I'm surprised by the amount of confusion and misinformation in this thread.  I thought people here understood the issues better.

You DON'T have to have a driver's license from a particular state or be domiciled in that state to register a vehicle there.  All you need is a legal address at which it is "garaged."  Just imagine you are a rich person who has homes in several states.  You would have no problem registering vehicles using the addresses of those properties.  The state you choose for your legal domicile is the one from which you will get a driver's license.

The key issue is not so much where you register the vehicle, but where you intend to keep it.  To return to the OP's situation.  If they had an address in SD and registered a vehicle there, but kept it at their property in MI it could lead to questions being asked as to why it carried SD rather than MI plates.  All states have laws regarding how many days of a year a vehicle with out of state registration can be kept in-state without needing to be reregistered.  Whether or not you get caught at it depends on how obvious your situation is.  If you have to park your RV out in the open and you have nosey neighbors, it's possible someone will rat you at.  If, OTOH, the RV is kept in a garage and is only taken out when you use it, the chances of getting caught are somewhat reduced.  However, if you were in a traffic stop, a cop might, legitimately, ask why you have MI licenses and an SD-registered RV.

Forming an LLC in MT is a way to register an RV and avoid tax since MT doesn't have any registration tax.  However, the above-noted considerations still apply.  If the OP were to form a MT LLC but were to keep the vehicle in MI the same questions could be asked.  MT LLC's work best for full-timers who essentially don't have a home state that they spend much time in.  We are SD residents and have an MH with MT registration.  We occasionally vacation in SD but the vehicle doesn't spend all that many days there so we don't violate SD law. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 04:20:36 PM »
Thanks Bill for the correction. Ref SD/ND

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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 08:12:38 PM »
Thanks for all your replies and thoughts.  Appreciate the input!
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2015, 08:28:07 PM »
I'm surprised by the amount of confusion and misinformation in this thread.  I thought people here understood the issues better.

You DON'T have to have a driver's license from a particular state or be domiciled in that state to register a vehicle there.  All you need is a legal address at which it is "garaged."  Just imagine you are a rich person who has homes in several states.  You would have no problem registering vehicles using the addresses of those properties.  The state you choose for your legal domicile is the one from which you will get a driver's license.

The key issue is not so much where you register the vehicle, but where you intend to keep it.  To return to the OP's situation.  If they had an address in SD and registered a vehicle there, but kept it at their property in MI it could lead to questions being asked as to why it carried SD rather than MI plates.  All states have laws regarding how many days of a year a vehicle with out of state registration can be kept in-state without needing to be reregistered.  Whether or not you get caught at it depends on how obvious your situation is.  If you have to park your RV out in the open and you have nosey neighbors, it's possible someone will rat you at.  If, OTOH, the RV is kept in a garage and is only taken out when you use it, the chances of getting caught are somewhat reduced.  However, if you were in a traffic stop, a cop might, legitimately, ask why you have MI licenses and an SD-registered RV.

Forming an LLC in MT is a way to register an RV and avoid tax since MT doesn't have any registration tax.  However, the above-noted considerations still apply.  If the OP were to form a MT LLC but were to keep the vehicle in MI the same questions could be asked.  MT LLC's work best for full-timers who essentially don't have a home state that they spend much time in.  We are SD residents and have an MH with MT registration.  We occasionally vacation in SD but the vehicle doesn't spend all that many days there so we don't violate SD law.


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Except for corporations registered to do business in the state IL, WA, and SD require you to have a valid driver's license to register a vehicle in those states, or did while we resided in each.  MT requires the same, in this case the LLC is registered in MT.


State requirements regarding use of vehicles in their respective states make it pretty clear what the laws are.

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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2015, 09:22:08 PM »

Joel


Except for corporations registered to do business in the state IL, WA, and SD require you to have a valid driver's license to register a vehicle in those states, or did while we resided in each.  MT requires the same, in this case the LLC is registered in MT.


State requirements regarding use of vehicles in their respective states make it pretty clear what the laws are.

Not all states require you to hold a license from that state in order to register a vehicle.  For example, here's a lift from the Orgeon DMV website:


In addition, a vehicle may qualify for Oregon registration even if the owner is not a resident of Oregon or domiciled in Oregon if one or more of the following applies:

The owner is a business that maintains a main office, branch office or warehouse facility in Oregon and operates motor vehicles in Oregon;
The vehicle is usually left in Oregon when the owner is away from Oregon, is used primarily for personal transportation in Oregon, is a private passenger vehicle or a vehicle having a loaded weight of less than 10,000 pounds, and is not a motor home or a camper; or
The vehicle is operated in intrastate transportation for compensation or profit for other than seasonal agricultural work.


If you'd like to see this quote in context, you can find it here: http://www.oregon.gov/odot/dmv/pages/driverid/residency.aspx

I have no idea how many states permit this but I sure it's not limited to OR.  Quite a few states have rules that state that vehicles that spend more than XX days in the state have to be registered there.  It's difficult to force people to register them if the Catch 22 is that the person owning the vehicle has to be a resident.

Here's a discussion about snowbird vehicle registration from a forum of The Villages, a major snowbird community in FL.  Several people responding to this thread say that they have vehicles registered both in FL and at their "other" home.  It doesn't sound like this is such big deal issue.  Here's the forum link: http://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/fl-car-registration-snowbirds-100923/

As another example, Maryland appears to handle the issue through what the State calls "dual registration": http://www.mva.maryland.gov/about-mva/info/27300/27300-07T.htm

As for the MT LLC, yes, my MH is registered in the name of my LLC which is a business entity, but it doesn't make the vehicle a commercial vehicle in the eyes of my insurance company.  So the net effect is that it is registered to me.

Note added later--Here's the FL motor vehicle code section dealing with vehicle registration.  Note that it says that the person registering the vehicle must have a drivers license issued by FL or another state:

320.02 Registration required; application for registration; forms.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, every owner or person in charge of a motor vehicle that is operated or driven on the roads of this state shall register the vehicle in this state. The owner or person in charge shall apply to the department or to its authorized agent for registration of each such vehicle on a form prescribed by the department. A registration is not required for any motor vehicle that is not operated on the roads of this state during the registration period.
(2)(a) The application for registration must include the street address of the owner’s permanent residence or the address of his or her permanent place of business and be accompanied by personal or business identification information. An individual applicant must provide a valid driver license or identification card issued by this state or another state or a valid passport. A business applicant must provide a federal employer identification number, if applicable, or verification that the business is authorized to conduct business in the state, or a Florida municipal or county business license or number.

The more I look into this the more I'm convinced that this is a pretty common situation.  Lots of people own properties in multiple states.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2015, 10:46:23 PM »
Hy guys Newby to this forum and this site reading all this I wonder how would I as an Ozzie fit in with this topic in regards to LLC  and different state registrations ,with an Ozzie and international licence and wanting to live full time for few years, but not stay in any state for long .want to see Usa and Canada for 6month central and south Americas for 8-9month and back to us for 6month which states would be best to register vehicle and all nesecery paper work including insurance inspections rego drivers licence and wothever I forgot thanks guys

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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2015, 08:18:40 AM »
Hy guys Newby to this forum and this site reading all this I wonder how would I as an Ozzie fit in with this topic in regards to LLC  and different state registrations ,with an Ozzie and international licence and wanting to live full time for few years, but not stay in any state for long .want to see Usa and Canada for 6month central and south Americas for 8-9month and back to us for 6month which states would be best to register vehicle and all nesecery paper work including insurance inspections rego drivers licence and wothever I forgot thanks guys

I don't think there's anything stopping you from setting up a Montana LLC and registering your vehicles into it.  Although there are legal fees associated with setting it up, there are considerable savings since MT doesn't charge a percentage-of-value tax to register a vehicle.  Since you aren't planning this as a long term investment, trying to take advantage of those savings would be worthwhile IMO.

I don't know anything about obtaining insurance for a non-US resident, but I wouldn't be surprised if your existing insurance company had a corresponding US company that it deals with that might be able to help you out.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2015, 09:59:27 AM »
In recent years, some states in a quest for additional revenues, have challenged the MT LLC ownership method when the person behind the LLC is was not a MT resident. Some have been taken to court in their home state and lost the case which became very costly for them. I presume the giveaway was the fact that they left the vehicle with MT plates (ie garaged) in plain view and someone, perhaps out of jealousy, questioned/reported it. For someone from out of the country, this should never become a problem though. The Texas or SD plan just seems much easier and cheaper to deal with with no backlash as you are actually declaring a new domicile.

There are many Canadian snowbirds who own cars in Florida and they are registered and left there as well. Many obtained a temporary drivers license but many others have not and use their own Canadian issued licenses quite legally. The major problem with that temporary Florida permit is that it requires the holder to renew it yearly exactly on its anniversary and requires the person to be present on that exact date for testing etc. With many, this is not always feasible year after year. A friend of mine was told outright 6 years ago that to obtain insurance in FL he had to obtain and use that temporary license. This has since been proven false, so the various sources of information don't always have good information, including the State of Florida or County employees, unfortunately.
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2015, 06:38:35 PM »
In recent years, some states in a quest for additional revenues, have challenged the MT LLC ownership method when the person behind the LLC is was not a MT resident. Some have been taken to court in their home state and lost the case which became very costly for them. I presume the giveaway was the fact that they left the vehicle with MT plates (ie garaged) in plain view and someone, perhaps out of jealousy, questioned/reported it.

If your register a vehicle to a MT LLC and then keep in your home state in excess of the number of days per year specified in your state's vehicle regulations then you are violating the law.  Misusing a MT LLC by some people shouldn't overshadow the fact that there are plenty of full-timers and others for whom using an LLC is totally legal.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2015, 08:51:01 AM »
If your register a vehicle to a MT LLC and then keep in your home state in excess of the number of days per year specified in your state's vehicle regulations then you are violating the law.  Misusing a MT LLC by some people shouldn't overshadow the fact that there are plenty of full-timers and others for whom using an LLC is totally legal.

Exactly!!! In opening an LLC like that, they have not declared domicile in MT and that rule (often 30 days) comes into effect in their domiciled state. The situation was perhaps made more obvious by the MT plates as it is a well known method.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2016, 11:05:16 AM »
South Dakota and Montana are great when make big purchase for tax breaks but that's about it. I live in Florida fulltime now and there is plenty of advantages.

There are obvious advantages to becoming a Florida resident. The first, and most well-known, is…Florida has no state income tax.
Full-time RV living in Florida has become a lifestyle choice for increasing numbers of modern-day nomads and Florida is a popular destination. Improvements in RV amenities and the scarcity of affordable housing are a few of the reasons that some people take their home to the open road permanently. Since home-schooling options have become more widely available, even families with young children can be full-time RV residents. Improvements in technology have made it possible for full-time RV residents to telecommute, pay bills, and stay in touch with friends and family while on the road.
How do you become a Florida Resident?
A lot of identity verification rules have been put in place since we hit the road, adding some additional hoops to getting a driver’s license in any state. Which means you need to start your process a month or so before getting your driver’s license to make sure you have everything you need.
Here’s the steps we recommend after going through the process ourselves:
   Get quotes for your health and auto insurance and check into registration fees, so there will be no surprises.
   Establish your new domicile address at least a month before you anticipate applying for your driver’s license or ID card. Do your research as to which is best for you – rates for insurance (vehicle & health) can vary widely at different zip codes. Vehicle insurance rates are very reasonable in Okaloosa County.
   I recommend Good Sam Mail Service https://www.goodsammailservice.com/ in Florida. They’ve been in business for many years serving the cruising, RVing and traveler communities, and we’ve heard nothing but glowing recommendations. They were easy to work with, sign-up was handled all online, and they provided all of the forms and instructions. They quickly answered our questions, including verifying that you could use our new address for our businesses without needing any additional occupancy license. Very impressed with their high tech scanning solution that actually lets you see the outside of incoming mail as soon as it arrives, and for a small extra fee they will even open your mail and scan the contents on request!
   As with any mail forwarding service, you’ll need to fill out a Postal Form 1583 to authorize the service to forward mail to you. The form must be notarized, and you must send copies of 2 forms of identification for each person along with it.
   Make sure your SSN card shows your name exactly as you want it to appear on your license.
   Start changing your address with banks, credit cards and insurance companies.

Why Florida over other states?
-   Very little red tape in Florida making it an easy transition.
-   Some of the most beautiful RV Resorts in the country.
-   The obvious, no state income tax.
-   Driver’s license is good for 8 years plus it’s easy to renew online wherever you’re at.
-   No annual vehicle inspections like Texas. This is big because you have to move your RV to the inspection station every year.
-   In Florida you only need a Class E driver’s license for any size RV. In some states you’ll need a special non-commercial Class A or B driver’s license.
-   Florida is highly regarded by a few RV Club’s for mail forwarding – Florida has far more resources for mail forwarding. 
-   No pension tax in Florida
-   No astronomical fees for vehicle registration, Florida is very reasonable.



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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2016, 09:37:08 PM »
Google up Clay County South Dakota treasury office.

http://www.claycountysd.org/treasurersoffice.cfm

The lady who answers the phone is super nice and will tell you EXACTLY what to submit to get your SD registration.

I have registered 3 vehicles there and have never set foot in that state.
Clay county DOES NOT CARE where you live.

Easy online renewals with the tags sent to your mailing address.

Fees are low.....Nevada wanted $600 bucks to renew a 2014 F-150. SD $135 bucks.
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2016, 08:20:30 PM »
Jo

I would check with SD but I beleive you can register the RV in SD now IF your husband is the sole owner and he goes to SD within six months to obtain a SD DL.


Florida, SD, and TX are probably recommended more as a domicile than other states but I would still suggest to investigate them all.


Florida would be a long drive for someone who doesn't visit the SE regularly.


When we originally moved our domicile to SD we were allowed to register vehicles but had to appear in SD within six months to obtain SD driver's licenses.


We can renew our plates using a SD address and can renew a DL once by mail IF we have a campground receipt for a night in SD within the last twelve months. The second renewal requires showing up to prove you are still kicking (and to take a vision test). Also if you already own your RV and did not pay any sales tax in your previous state you will be required to pay the 4% SD use tax when you register. If you previously paid tax and have a receipt you receive credit for that tax.


Texas requires a driver's test for RVs over 26000 pounds and annual vehicle inspections if you are in state or upon re-entering Texas.


Many RVers create a MT LLC for the RV as a tax haven but if you use MT as your domicile they do have a personal income tax rate of 8% (IIRC) . The MT LLC is not recognized by many (most?) other states as a legal tax avoidance if you are domiciled outside MT.

Other issues can be the cost of vehicle insurance, availability and cost of health insurance, and wills and inheritance taxes to name a few.

As I said, do your research.
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2016, 10:11:44 PM »

Many RVers create a MT LLC for the RV as a tax haven but if you use MT as your domicile they do have a personal income tax rate of 8% (IIRC) . The MT LLC is not recognized by many (most?) other states as a legal tax avoidance if you are domiciled outside MT.


With all due respect this is a rather sweeping generalization of a rather complex topic.  If you choose to use a MT LLC you should be cognizant of the laws of the state you are domiciled in to determine if you are in compliance.  Irrespective of what is written in forums such at this, there are many very expensive Montana-registered RVs and boats in the US owned by people who do not live in MT.  As with any complex tax issue, advice from an expert is usually advisable.
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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2016, 05:18:19 PM »
Have any of you considered the benefits you already get from your home state? I have always paid my taxes in full and, frankly, have a very low opinion of those who cheat to avoid paying legitimate taxes. If you don't like paying the taxes, move and avoid them, but accept the reduced benefits if you choose to avoid the inconvenience.

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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2016, 08:31:42 PM »
You won't need an LLC if your husband can establish himself in SD, e.g. obtain a legal address, get driving license, etc. There are SD law firms that will help him get set up, and he can then buy the RV and title it there, paying SD fees and taxes.  If you want the coach in both your names, it would be easiest if also got an SD driving license, but I don't think it is required by SD. Using an LLC might be a way to get around that - the SD attorney could advise on that aspect. What they cannot advise about is your MI tax situation.

Your potential issue is bringing the coach back to MI. If it's in the state 30 days, they are going to want it registered there, and since you would still be a MI resident, they have you over a barrel for the taxes as well. Can you leave the coach outside the state, except for brief periods? That might be sufficient. You probably need to consult a MI attorney or CPA on this, since the situation is not clear cut.

You said you need to maintain MI residency, but I'm not sure if you are using "residency" in a legal sense or just saying you need to physically reside in MI for a while longer. There are subtle differences.

What you say has a lot of merit and worthy consideration for the OP.  I do question the 30 day portion of your post, not because I disagree, as I have read that before.  Rather, I wonder how that can be enforced? Consider hypothetically the OP is legally domiciled in SD, but travel to and stay in Missouri for 30 day's plus whether to visit family, recreation etc. My point is many full timers have the luxury of staying in one state for longer periods if they choose, so does that mean they have to pay that state taxes, particularly if they move on and stay in other states for 30 plus days?  Just curious.
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« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2016, 11:10:58 PM »
 Gizmo


The problem is towing or parking a motorhome with SD plates with a car with MI plates. When we in WA it was a given state troopers were going to pull a rv/tow over if they displayed different plates and one was from WA.

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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2016, 08:33:10 AM »
As the oil filter commercial would say, "pay me now, or pay me later"
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2016, 08:40:39 AM »
Gizmo


The problem is towing or parking a motorhome with SD plates with a car with MI plates. When we in WA it was a given state troopers were going to pull a rv/tow over if they displayed different plates and one was from WA.

OTOH, the general case of having vehicles with registration in two different states is not a big deal as long as you have your papers in order.  Our MH is registered in MT to our LLC and our CR-V is registered in SD where we have our domicile.  We've not been stopped because of this but maybe we've just been lucky.  However, we have gone back and forth across the US-Canada border several times and once we show the guards that we have the registrations and LLC paperwork all in order they don't have any further interest in the issue.
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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2016, 09:24:19 AM »
Gizmo


Jeff, The problem is towing or parking a motorhome with SD plates with a car with MI plates. When we in WA it was a given state troopers were going to pull a rv/tow over if they displayed different plates and one was from WA.

That of course makes sense, I guess I was thinking they would register both vehicles in SD.  Registering only one is asking for trouble.
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2016, 09:28:07 AM »
and once we show the guards that we have the registrations and LLC paperwork all in order they don't have any further interest in the issue.

They work for Home Land Security, "not there job"  now the IRS is a different story. Al Capone got away with murder, the IRS got him for tax evasion.

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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2016, 09:42:41 AM »
and once we show the guards that we have the registrations and LLC paperwork all in order they don't have any further interest in the issue.

They work for Home Land Security, "not there job"  now the IRS is a different story. Al Capone got away with murder, the IRS got him for tax evasion.

The famous judge Learned Hand once wrote:

Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.

The use of a MT LLC to reduce taxes is a totally legal approach, as long as one abides by the law of the state in which one is domiciled.  If a person keeps such a  vehicle at his residence in another state, I agree that this may result in questions being raised. However, for full time RVers who have no physical home, it is quite easy to ensure that the MH doesn't spend more time in one's domicile state than the law will allow.  You may choose not to use such an approach and that is totally within your rights.
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2017, 02:11:05 AM »
Hi,
A little googling seems to indicate it's not: http://www.maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/salestax/salestax.html

Relevant part:


I'm not an expert either, but what Tin Man says makes perfect sense to me.

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Clearly you are not an expert. What you googled has absolutely nothing to do with RV's.

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2017, 02:16:18 AM »
During a discussion with the owner of my local RV dealership last week, he said I could go online and register as a corporation in Maine for $380.  He said that way I pay no sales tax on my RV and that the license fee is only $30 a year.  I don't mean to hijack your thread, but I am curious if this is true.

I know out-of-state registrations in Maine are not subject to local excise tax (which can be over $500 for a new car; tax drops each year the car ages), as for Maine residents, but I am not sure about sales tax. I tend to believe what the dealer says is true. The registration fee, itself, in Maine is just $35 per year (used to be $30).

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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2017, 02:18:53 AM »
Going back to the original question.. In order to register a vehicle in SD you must have your mailing address there and become a citizen of that state.This will include changing your driver's license to that state.   


This is wrong. SD has non-resident vehicle registrations, just like Maine:

http://dor.sd.gov/Motor_Vehicles/Non_Resident_Information/

You do not have to be a resident there to register your vehicle or RV.

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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2017, 02:24:09 AM »
However, your physical presence is required to do the job.

As in all states. They need to take your pic for the DL and you need to take the vision exam and show them your actual license and other proofs.

However, you only need to go to SD once every 10 years. They issue you a DL for 5 years, but every other renewal can be done online. So 10 years. They do require you to stay in a campground or motel every 5 years to establish continung residency, but all you need to do is pay a motel or campground by phone, and just tell them to send you the receipt. The receipt serves as proof.

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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2017, 02:29:42 AM »
That's good that you don't need an inspection in SD. Was figuring on changing my address there once I get on the road, but also was wondering if when you need a renewal on your DL if it goes by your birth date. Probably does I think, but don't want to have to go back in January. Anybody know? Maybe Texas is better for me.

You have 6 months from before your birth date to renew your DL. Mine expires in December, so I just renewed in in July.

Registrations goes by your last name. If your name begins with "W", for example, you are required to register in November. However, you can register up to 3 months before the expiration date, so if they expire 11/30, you could renew starting 8/31 or 9/1.

http://dor.sd.gov/Motor_Vehicles/Fees/Titling_and_Registration.aspx

How are plates issued?   License plates are issued based on the first letter of your last name which then correlates to a particular month. For example, someone with the last name starting with a "J" will be required to renew their plates in March of each year.

A/B   January
C/D/E   February
F/G/J   March
H/I/O   May
K/L   June
M/N   July
P/Q/R   August
S   September
T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z   November

The same applies for permanent disabled placards in SD. You can renew them up to 3 months from when they expire. They expire 5 years from the day day they issue them, on the last day of that month. Mine were issued 12/21/2011, so they expired 12/31/2016. I could have renewed them starting 9/30/2016 or maybe 10/1/2016.
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2017, 02:42:28 AM »
Wrong state.  North Dakota is the one with the Bakken oil fields.  We lived in SD for 9 years and long to go back but age is becoming a factor.  Great place, great people and politicians seem to work for 'the folks' in the smaller areas.  After paying 8.34 percent sales tax in Missouri (state, county, city), SD would be a nice place to register (and live for us).  I recall the motor vehicle sales tax to be 3 percent max, no state income tax but property tax is a bit higher than normal (whatever normal is).

Motor vehicle sales tax is 4%. Vehicle registration goes up in SD every two years by about $25. It started in 2010 or 2011 due to lack of money.They added a mandatory State Highway Patrol Fee to all registrations in 2011 or so. Now my county has added a $2 per wheel wheel tax for all registrations. SD used to be a bargain; now, not so much.

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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2017, 02:55:31 AM »

Joel


Except for corporations registered to do business in the state IL, WA, and SD require you to have a valid driver's license to register a vehicle in those states, or did while we resided in each.  MT requires the same, in this case the LLC is registered in MT.


State requirements regarding use of vehicles in their respective states make it pretty clear what the laws are.

You don't need to have a SD license to register in SD. I am pretty sure you are making that info up for WA and IL too.

Let's say I spend 7 months a year in MA and winter in FL for 5 months. I  have a MA DL. If I have a car and keep it at my winter home in FL year-round, and another car where I keep in my summer home in MA year-round, I can register them in those states, respectively. The winter car in FL will never set foot in MA, and vice-versa. How would I register the FL car in MA, especially if the foreign state required an initial inspection before registering, like CA or NV does? I would have to drive that car 1,000's of miles there.
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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2017, 03:09:28 AM »
Google up Clay County South Dakota treasury office.

http://www.claycountysd.org/treasurersoffice.cfm

The lady who answers the phone is super nice and will tell you EXACTLY what to submit to get your SD registration.

I have registered 3 vehicles there and have never set foot in that state.
Clay county DOES NOT CARE where you live.

No county in SD theoretically cares where you live, since non-residents are allowed per the SD Motor Vehicle website to register their car. The only trouble you have is when you call some rural, in-the-middle-of-nowhere county which does not know the rules. I did this once to a small county in the center of the state, and the person who answered the phone claimed I need to be a state resident to register there. Rather than argue with that old biddy and call the state to report her, I just called a bigger county that handles out of state registrations a lot, like in Rapid City or Sioux Falls or nearby. No problem.

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« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2017, 03:21:23 AM »
Jo

I would check with SD but I beleive you can register the RV in SD now IF your husband is the sole owner and he goes to SD within six months to obtain a SD DL.


When we originally moved our domicile to SD we were allowed to register vehicles but had to appear in SD within six months to obtain SD driver's licenses.

If you previously paid tax and have a receipt you receive credit for that tax.



Having or SD DL not is irrelevant as to whether you can register the RV there. He can dot by mail from MI.

You are required by SD law to change your DL to that that once you become a resident, not 6 months later. You should have done both at the same time rather than waste a trip.

You do not need a receipt for sales tax from out of state when changing a registration to SD. I didn't have my sales tax receipt or registration. A previous title (or registration) is fine to prove it was previously registered in another state.

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« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2017, 03:25:11 AM »
Have any of you considered the benefits you already get from your home state? I have always paid my taxes in full and, frankly, have a very low opinion of those who cheat to avoid paying legitimate taxes. If you don't like paying the taxes, move and avoid them, but accept the reduced benefits if you choose to avoid the inconvenience.

Ernie

And I take a low view of you. Please tell me what are full-timers supposed to do when their beloved home state won't give them a DL because they have no physical address in that state???? Most would prefer getting their registrations and DL in their home states. Draconian policies imposed by DHS make them choose more-friendly havens like SD, TX, or FL.

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« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2017, 03:29:44 AM »
OTOH, the general case of having vehicles with registration in two different states is not a big deal as long as you have your papers in order.  Our MH is registered in MT to our LLC and our CR-V is registered in SD where we have our domicile.  We've not been stopped because of this but maybe we've just been lucky.  However, we have gone back and forth across the US-Canada border several times and once we show the guards that we have the registrations and LLC paperwork all in order they don't have any further interest in the issue.

Yep, my DL is Maine but my vehicle is SD, and my address on both was CA and I spend most of my time in NV. I have had no problems when pulled over, which is rare. NJ State Police gave the DC sniper John Muhammed some trouble when his DL was NJ but sniper car registration was WA, but ultimately they let him go during a traffic stop. They key thing is having a good explanation ready if you are pulled over in your DL state and your vehicle is registered in another state. Tell them you have two residences and you mainly keep the vehicle in that second state. For the most part, in other states besides your DL state, all they care about is that both DL and registration are good. They cannot enforce your DL (home) state's registration laws as they are allowed to enforce only their own state's laws.
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« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2017, 08:45:41 AM »
Mileena, FYI

The key word is CHEAT! I have no problem wih Tax Avoidance; just Tax Evasion. As  matter of fact I full time and the fact that I'm domiciled inTexas is because I lived there for 50 years. I intend to change my domicile to Florida when I sell the S&B in TX next year, but thats mostly for convenience since I spend more time there.

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« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2017, 03:10:25 PM »

However, you only need to go to SD once every 10 years. They issue you a DL for 5 years, but every other renewal can be done online. So 10 years. They do require you to stay in a campground or motel every 5 years to establish continung residency, but all you need to do is pay a motel or campground by phone, and just tell them to send you the receipt. The receipt serves as proof.

Throughout this thread people have expressed concerns about breaking the law by evading paying taxes.  With all due respect, by obtaining a SD CG or motel receipt without spending a night in SD and using it to obtain a license renewal is definitely breaking a law.  SD DPS expressly states that RVers using an affidavit to assert residency cannot use online license renewal.  We read that and decided it was more important for us to protect our SD residency than it was to avoid a trip north for license renewal.  IMO spending a night in SD once every five years isn't too much of a price to pay for the right to be a resident.  JMO, other people will have other views on the subject.
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« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2017, 06:03:09 PM »
Throughout this thread people have expressed concerns about breaking the law by evading paying taxes.  With all due respect, by obtaining a SD CG or motel receipt without spending a night in SD and using it to obtain a license renewal is definitely breaking a law.  SD DPS expressly states that RVers using an affidavit to assert residency cannot use online license renewal.  We read that and decided it was more important for us to protect our SD residency than it was to avoid a trip north for license renewal.  IMO spending a night in SD once every five years isn't too much of a price to pay for the right to be a resident.  JMO, other people will have other views on the subject.

Everything you have said here is incorrect.

Nowhere in the rules does it state nomads cannot renew online. Here are the rules:

https://dps.sd.gov/licensing/driver_licensing/Renewing_Your_Driver_License_Online_or_by_Mail.aspx

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Online Renewal/Duplicate

You may renew your driver license or ID card online once every ten years, provided you meet the following criteria:
You must have a federally compliant South Dakota driver license or ID card with a
You must provide a vision statment (ONLY South Dakota Department of Public Safety Vision Statements will be accepted click here vision statement) if you are 65 years old or older (the vision exam must be within the past six months and persons wearing bioptic lenses must apply in person and not online)
You must provide TWO Proof of address documents which have to be attached to the online application (documents must be no more than one year old) or mailed to Driver Licensing Program, 118 West Capitol Avenue, Pierre, SD 57501.
If you are using a South Dakota mail forwarding address, you will need to complete the residency affidavit. you will also need to provide a receipt from a South Dakota hotel/motel, campground or RV park to prove one night stay in within the last year (hand written receipts are not acceptable) and One DOCUMENT (no more than one year old) proving your personal mailbox (PMB) service address (receipts from the PMB businees or a piece of mail with your PMB address on it). If you have friends or family member in South Dakota and plan to use thier address, complete and follow the instructions on consent for use of address form.
Military personnel and their dependents stationed overseas may use 2 address documents proving their APO address. Military personnel and their dependents stationed in another state, may provide 2 address documents proving their out-of-state residential address. All other applicants must provide 2 address documents proving their South Dakota residential address.
You must have a credit/debit card (Visa or MasterCard) to make your payment
You must be a U.S. Citizen or Permanent Resident
To renew your driver license or ID card online, click Online Renewal

Moreover, nowhere does it state you have to actually spend a night in SD for the residency affidavit. All  the form says is you need a receipt:

http://dps.sd.gov/licensing/driver_licensing/documents/PMBFormresidencyaffidavit11-06-2013.pdf

If you have info that proves me wrong, please provide it. I have provided info that says I am right.

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« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2017, 06:06:54 PM »
Mileena, FYI

The key word is CHEAT! I have no problem wih Tax Avoidance; just Tax Evasion. As  matter of fact I full time and the fact that I'm domiciled inTexas is because I lived there for 50 years. I intend to change my domicile to Florida when I sell the S&B in TX next year, but thats mostly for convenience since I spend more time there.

Ernie

Got it! Sorry about that Ernie! I was too quick to conflate the terms.

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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2017, 07:30:28 PM »
We are in the process of deciding what state to reside in when I retire next year.  We have eliminated TX as it is my understanding that you need a CDL with an air break endorsement in order to drive a MH that weights over a certain amount.   I think the amount is 25,000 lbs.  Also the inspections as someone metioned. 
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2017, 09:12:17 PM »
Everything you have said here is incorrect

Moreover, nowhere does it state you have to actually spend a night in SD. . All the form says is you need a receipt

If you have info that proves me wrong, please provide it. I have provided info that says I am right.

See if this meets your challenge -- about spending a night in SD.  You need to read and understand your own post above wherein you copied the text of the SD guidance.  What you copied and pasted clearly states you need to provide a receipt to prove one night stay. . . within the past year  The receipt is the "proof of the stay" and  thus inherent in the statement, a stay is required.  It certainly would not be acceptable to simply pay and obtain a receipt without ever stepping foot in the state and the intent to require a stay is abundantly clear. 

And furthermore, the OP you judged so severely may have been correct for his circumstances which you failed to take into account as SD also states that you cannot renew a DL online unless you have a federally compliant DL or ID. If the OP's SD DL that needed renewing was not federally compliant, then he can't renew online.  Read the bold red print of the first paragraph on the SD DPS page you already quoted.  Due to the 5-6 year term of DLs, and the staggered recent implementation of every state's program, that situation is entirely possible.




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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2017, 04:36:19 PM »
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We have eliminated TX as it is my understanding that you need a CDL with an air break endorsement in order to drive a MH that weights over a certain amount

Johnaye, you might want to check this further because I don't believe any state requires a Commercial Driver License (CDL) for a private RV.  They may require an endorsement, but not a CDL.  There's a lot of misunderstanding about this and we've had numerous discussions on the topic.  Use the Search button above left and search on CDL Texas to see some that relate specifically to Texas requirements.

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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2017, 10:42:38 PM »

And furthermore, the OP you judged so severely may have been correct for his circumstances which you failed to take into account as SD also states that you cannot renew a DL online unless you have a federally compliant DL or ID. If the OP's SD DL that needed renewing was not federally compliant, then he can't renew online.  Read the bold red print of the first paragraph on the SD DPS page you already quoted.  Due to the 5-6 year term of DLs, and the staggered recent implementation of every state's program, that situation is entirely possible.

We had federally compliant DL's; we were among the first to receive them 5 years ago in SD.  We simply decided that "a receipt to prove one night stay. . . within the past year" meant that you actually had to stay in the state one night so that 's what we did.   Even though we could have renewed our licenses at any DPS office in the state, we chose to drive to Madison where we are residents. 
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Re: Registering Vehicle in SD
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2017, 08:23:34 AM »
Texas requires:

   Class B license (written & road test) for mh over 26, 000 lb gross
   You must demonstrate understanding of air brake or fail.
   State Inspection in state or on return, not if you don't return
   In state address (Escapees or similar) for domicile
   Can renew all licenses by mail

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