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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2015, 10:39:41 PM »
x2 on using CCleaner. I had one computer that slowed down to a snail's pace. CCleaner got it back to normal.
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2015, 05:08:30 AM »
Glary utilities is a free program you can download which goes through and cleans the registry and also has other features you can use to take care of housekeeping. Yes thyey try to sell you a paid version but the free version does a great job.
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2015, 07:08:33 AM »
Ccleaner is the same way, they have a free version and a paid version.  It also fixes registry issues.
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2015, 07:36:29 AM »
I have an HP next to this Toshiba and just bought a 2nd HP for a friend who needs a lighter computer than her vintage Dell.

Since Carley left and everyone sang Ding Dong the Witch is Dead, their products are improving a bit.. But still have a way to go. and of course customer service and warranty could be better.   (Meaning THEY broke it and I still had to pay shipping).

Oh, ACER.. That was the back up plan if the store was out of the HP... Turns out they had one HP left.   Very attractive price for a Quad Core, 4 Gig RAM 500 Gig HD box.

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« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2015, 06:45:25 PM »
If your hard drive is making weird clicks then it very likely to be the problem.  When was the last time you did a full surface scan of the drive?  Right click on my computer, then right click on that drive, left click on tools and finally on check drive for errors.  If you have the option to do a surface scanSince this is your OS drive the scan will run the next time you boot it.

If your USB ports are dead that could be part of the problem as well.  If you know your way around device manager try disabling them.  HP probably didn't make the USB chips.  If you can identify who did (Intel for instance) they will probably have drivers.  You may need to re-install the entire processor and chipset driver package or packages.

This app might help : http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/driver_booster_3.html

Apple sends out patches just like Microsoft does, so does everybody else.  Sometimes they are security patches and sometimes they are new features - those tend to be the bigger ones.  if you install a fresh copy of Windows the first thing it will do is start installing patches.  Sometimes lots of them.  I've done re-installs and then spent several hours installing updates. 
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2015, 01:05:02 PM »
A couple of yeas ago I gave my father an inexpensive ($259) 14" Toshiba laptop to check email and Skype our family. He only got to use it for a couple of months so we gave it to Sue's sister who also only used it briefly.


I brought it back to experiment with Win8 and added a couple of GB of RAM. It easily upgraded to Win10 and I find it my machine of choice for doing computing that I don't do on my IPAD. The 17" Toshiba I used is just to big and hot to be comfortable on my lap. I also like my Aspire Switch but the screen is a bit small for my eyes. It is primarily my VMSPC engine monitor for the m/h.


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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2016, 11:11:29 AM »
Thread revival... some deep cleaning as suggested above made a pretty big difference in my current laptop (thanks to everyone), but I'm still planning on replacing it.  It's 7-8 years old and the hard drive is due for sudden failure anytime now!  Nothing really jumped out at me in terms of laptop price/availability during the pre- or post-Christmas season sales, so I'm still looking around.

As far as laptop processors go... can anyone comments on the significant differences (if any) between the AMD A4, A6, A8 lines when compared to the Intel i3, i5, i7, etc?  I figure they should be mostly comparable but there are often $20-40-60 between different levels and I don't know what's worth the extra money.  Pretty much everything new/refurbished now is a quad core, with clock speeds are all over the map from 1.6ghz to 2.4ghz.  Sometimes the faster speeds are on cheaper machines, which doesn't quick make sense to me.

I've Googled these processor topics but often prefer the real life experiences of others... and not just CPU bench tests, which is mostly what I run across online.
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2016, 11:18:14 AM »
I feel cpu performance is a worthless topic. What really slows down your computer is the brick you put around it's neck called Windows. And the really big brick is the speed of the Internet. If you are going to run Linux and have a 300 meg Internet connection then the cpu speed might mean something. But for most of us cpu speed is not even worth discussing. In my opinion you should just get a Chromebook.
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2016, 12:24:42 PM »
I second the suggestion of a chromebook.

I know this is an older thread, but for someone else's reference....
I have a toshiba chromebook2, bought Christmas time a year ago.  It's still working great
My macmini that's about 5 years old or so, and our macbook pro, a little younger, and the Lenovo PC that was 2 years old at Christmas are all dogs.  Slower than molasses compared to my chromebook.

And great battery life too.

My only suggestion is to buy the versions with higher ram capacity.  I bought the cheaper of the two versions available at the time from toshiba.  Mine tends to slow down if I have maybe a dozen or more tabs open.
Since between my wife, kids, and wife's business we've bought 3 additional chromebooks, all different models from asus.... and hey are all good too.
Oh, and I have my dad running a chromebase for about a year now.  Works great for him too.

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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2016, 12:51:35 PM »
How does a Chromebook work differently than a standard PC, and what are the advantages?

EDIT:  I think I answered some of my own questions... Chromebooks are basically internet machines with very limited on-board components.  No hard drive it appears, or not enough for storage of anything substantial?  So far I've resisted relying on cloud-based storage, if for no other reason that I don't want to pay monthly fees for the rest of my life.  I also have some work applications that require Microsoft Word and Excel.  It looks like Google Docs has similar programs (akin to the OpenOffice suite I would assume) but they aren't always the exact same when it comes to function.  I like to rip CD's and have access to my mp3 collection at home anytime.

Keep the conversation going, as I'm interested to hear what your daily life experiences are with Chromebooks.
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2016, 01:32:37 PM »
How does a Chromebook work differently than a standard PC, and what are the advantages?

EDIT:  I think I answered some of my own questions... Chromebooks are basically internet machines with very limited on-board components.  No hard drive it appears, or not enough for storage of anything substantial?  So far I've resisted relying on cloud-based storage, if for no other reason that I don't want to pay monthly fees for the rest of my life.  I also have some work applications that require Microsoft Word and Excel.  It looks like Google Docs has similar programs (akin to the OpenOffice suite I would assume) but they aren't always the exact same when it comes to function.  I like to rip CD's and have access to my mp3 collection at home anytime.

Keep the conversation going, as I'm interested to hear what your daily life experiences are with Chromebooks.
I am on my third Chromebook in four years. The Chromebook is not my only computer. I also have a 17 inch Acer laptop mainly to do photo editing on. I like using a big screen for photo editing and Chromebook won't run Lightroom, my photo editor. Each time I upgraded I was able to sell my old Chromebook for about the cost of the new one. My current one costs $169. I only have 16 gigs of onboard storage, more than enough because I keep everything in the Cloud. Cloud storage is cheap especially since I don't have the expense of expensive laptops. It has two gigs of RAM and I have never had a slowdown since I rarely have more that five tabs open at once. I really love the fact it boots almost instantaneously. It gets automatically updated maybe once a month and performance keeps on improving, instead of rapidly going downhill like it does with Windows machine. It is impossible to get a virus since it cannot run programs and Google warns you before going to a site that gives you malware, so anit-virus and anit-malware programs are not necessary. No defragging, no backing up, no installing programs. They eliminated everything that is ugly about using a normal computer. And there are many things you can do with it when you are not online, but since mine never leaves the house it is always online. I plug mine in at bedtime and the next day it runs all day without a recharge. It goes about 12 hours on a battery charge. It weights almost nothing and doesn't get hot. Never seen a blue screen of death. It does have a hard drive, an SSD actually but it really isn't needed for much. Once a month when I edit my photos and pull out my Windows machine it is like going back to the 20th century. I have it upgraded to W10 but it is still a drag. Chromebooks are dirt cheap. Here is the current best seller, $172 for a 14 inch with a quad core.

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Give it a try and you will be surprised.
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2016, 02:08:46 PM »
I just found out my Chromebook is about to receive a 25% increase in speed at no cost to me.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/20/10797268/googles-new-algorithm-chrome-run-faster?1453311003892=1
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2016, 03:26:52 PM »
Cloud storage may be OK if you're tethered in one spot with an unlimited landline connection to the Web, but it's murder anytime you're mobile and relying on a pay-by-the-byte Internet plan.

Everything you do relies on data being uploaded or downloaded to the cloud server.  If you're camped in an area without Internet connectivity the Chromebook is a brick.

Everywhere else, you're subtracting from your monthly data allowance.

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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2016, 04:16:59 PM »
I was wondering about full time RV'ers who might have limited internet connectivity, re: Chromebook practicality.  That is not me, and the laptop I want to buy would be our primary home computer.  Can Chromebooks be set up to wirelessly network with Windows to transfer data from one laptop to the other?  I do like that functionality among my current Windows machines.  Or does it require transfer by flash drive or some other USB physical media?
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Re: Laptop... so... slow
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2016, 04:33:53 PM »
Cloud storage may be OK if you're tethered in one spot with an unlimited landline connection to the Web, but it's murder anytime you're mobile and relying on a pay-by-the-byte Internet plan.
Not true. You don't do any program downloading with a Chromebook and if you are on a pay by the byte plan you aren't going to be downloading movies or songs no matter what computer you are using..
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Everything you do relies on data being uploaded or downloaded to the cloud server.
Not true. When I was on a pay by the byte plan I rarely went over 3 gigs per month. Most people just don't do that much uploading to the Internet. If they do then they need a land line.
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If you're camped in an area without Internet connectivity the Chromebook is a brick.
Nope.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2453999/chromebooks-beyond-the-cloud-everything-chromebooks-can-do-offline.html
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« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2016, 04:38:52 PM »
I was wondering about full time RV'ers who might have limited internet connectivity, re: Chromebook practicality.
If you have limited Internet connectivity then what are you going to be doing that requires the Internet and massive data transfer?
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  That is not me, and the laptop I want to buy would be our primary home computer.  Can Chromebooks be set up to wirelessly network with Windows to transfer data from one laptop to the other?  I do like that functionality among my current Windows machines.  Or does it require transfer by flash drive or some other USB physical media?
I don't do a lot of transfering data from my laptop to my Chromebook. But it is possible:

http://browsernative.com/transfer-files-chromebook-windows-android-ios-509/
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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2016, 05:55:12 PM »
Call me old fashioned (and I'm still a couple years shy of 40) but I'm still a fan of physical media.  On our "home" laptop, we like to browse old family photos on the computer, etc. and I like to pull up tunes from my many mp3 album folders.  Sounds like the Chromebook would not have this ability, unless I have cloud subscription (not really interested) or I am pulling out my backup hard drive to connect. 

The above scenarios seem cumbersome... but at the same time, is it too redundant (and costly) to buy a PC laptop with another internal hard drive (not really needed since I have a 2TB external) just for the convenience of quick file access?  Hmm, not sure I know the answer to that quite yet.

Side note: for anyone who relies mostly on cloud storage, in an unplanned power/internet outage you'd just simply have no access to your files.  Right? ???
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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2016, 05:57:22 PM »
Or junk Windows and install Linux on your present laptop.

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2016, 06:08:14 PM »
Call me old fashioned (and I'm still a couple years shy of 40) but I'm still a fan of physical media.  On our "home" laptop, we like to browse old family photos on the computer, etc. and I like to pull up tunes from my many mp3 album folders.  Sounds like the Chromebook would not have this ability, unless I have cloud subscription (not really interested) or I am pulling out my backup hard drive to connect. 

The above scenarios seem cumbersome... but at the same time, is it too redundant (and costly) to buy a PC laptop with another internal hard drive (not really needed since I have a 2TB external) just for the convenience of quick file access?  Hmm, not sure I know the answer to that quite yet.

Side note: for anyone who relies mostly on cloud storage, in an unplanned power/internet outage you'd just simply have no access to your files.  Right? ???
I have about 3000 photos stored on Picasa that I can view anytime I want either on my laptop, my Chromebook or my phone. I also have 3000 mp3s on Google Drive. Google Drive gives you 15 gigs of free storage and in the last 15 years I have not paid a dime to store my photos or my mp3s. I also use Google Docs and have all my docs stored on Google Drive at no cost to me. I also have all of that located on my Windows laptop hard drive and on two 32 gig flash drives, one I keep in the house and one in the car.  The flash drives cost about $8. I also have my mp3 collection on two flash drives, one plugged into my car stereo and one into my home surround system. So I have access to all my files whether I am online or offline no matter where I am. All my videos are kept on YouTube for free and I can access them from anywhere.
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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2016, 06:25:26 PM »
^^ Very prudent usage a free resources... thanks for breaking it down!
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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2016, 06:46:42 PM »
^^ Very prudent usage a free resources... thanks for breaking it down!
I have been obsessive about backing up my hard drive for the last 30 years starting with a tape backup in 1987 of my Windows 2.1 machine. I have been a Googleaholic for the last 15 years.
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2016, 06:59:10 PM »
Get rid of the ads that are killing it.
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« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2016, 10:03:58 PM »
I recently reloaded Win7 and it made a huge difference....I was having a problem with certain programs "Not Responding"  new load problem gone....

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« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2016, 07:42:30 AM »
The HD is the main problem to slow down any type of computer; buy yourself a SSD, make a backup of your data and make an image of your HD and install the SSD. You will gain in speed and relialibility.
After doing so, format your old HD and use it as an external HD as a backup.
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« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2016, 11:01:03 AM »
The HD is the main problem to slow down any type of computer; buy yourself a SSD, make a backup of your data and make an image of your HD and install the SSD. You will gain in speed and relialibility.
After doing so, format your old HD and use it as an external HD as a backup.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M8ABFX6?keywords=ssd%20hard%20drive&qid=1454593271&ref_=sr_1_13&s=pc&sr=1-13

My new Dell is configured with a 128GB SSD on which the operating system and all user programs are installed; there's also a 1TB HDD for data, photos, etc.  That makes for a very fast system which, in this case is aided by a Core i7 processor.
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« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2016, 10:05:47 AM »
This is a good low budget option that comes with a recent processor, 8 gb of ram, and a 120 GB SSD for 515.99.  For anyone looking to buy a new computer, they will be amazed at the performance increase that an SSD makes.

http://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-E550-i3-4005U-Notebook-Computer/dp/B00SCAZ9DS/ref=sr_1_19?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454688090&sr=1-19&keywords=laptop+with+ssd&refinements=p_n_feature_eighteen_browse-bin%3A6819965011%7C6819967011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289794011

 

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