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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2008, 09:31:35 PM »
It does look like Gary spent $10 that he didn't need to but, just remember he is the guy that just bought the good tires too.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2008, 12:32:27 PM »
JM, Is there any sort of a deal for us military disabled types?  Wa has a get in free pass for military 30%+ disablity citizens that alows us free run of all state parks.
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I work in this area of discussion. The Interagency pass will not provide overnight camping but in many areas will allow day use in camp sites and covers everything the Adventure Pass Covers.

Yes, anyone can buy an America the Beautiful Pass. You can purchase it over the phone and have it mailed to you.

Also, here is a tip for those in areas that use the Adventure Passes. If you are in an area where you recreate locally, and you purchase the Yearly Adventure Pass,$30.00 also get a Second Vehile Pass $5.00. It is the same as the Annual Pass and it is not attached to a licence plate # so you can give it as a gift to a recreating buddy if you don't need it for the second vehile.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2008, 05:13:30 PM »
JM, Is there any sort of a deal for us military disabled types?  Wa has a get in free pass for military 30%+ disablity citizens that alows us free run of all state parks.
Morrigan

Show proof of receiving federal disability and you can get the federal Access pass.

The Washington free pass is only for Washington state residents.

You can get more info here on discounts offered at federal and state parks.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2008, 08:36:26 PM »
We visit many of the National Parks and i just turned 62 so..... I buy the pass for $10 and I get in to the parks.  Does this cover my wife who is not 62.  (She's not even 52) and does it lower the cost of camping???? 

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2008, 08:38:44 PM »
The pass includes other occupants of the vehicle for entry to the parks.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2008, 09:15:47 PM »
The senior pass gets you and all those in your vehicle (whether you're driving or not so long as it's not a commercial vehicle) into the park. You'll also get 50% off camping for you only.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2008, 10:29:57 PM »
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2009, 10:20:00 AM »
What a neat program!  I have emailed the park in our area and requested a pass. 

I knew this forum would be informational!   :)

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2009, 10:23:52 AM »
Mike - They might not send you one, I think you have to show proof of age or disability. But you can pick one up the next time you visit a federal park.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2009, 10:40:26 AM »
I saw that you do have to obtain it in person.  I emailed the park closest to us in hopes that they can issue us one.  Makes for a shorter drive dontcha know..
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2009, 10:48:35 AM »
You might have a Forest Service or BLM office where you live or close by. Check the phone book, white pages, under United States. You can buy the regular pass over the internet here but the Senior and Access (disabled) passes have to be obtained in person so they can check your age/disability documents.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2009, 11:03:23 AM »
If I by the $80 pass, it works the same as the age 62 $10 pass, is that correct?  Is it a one time fee or annual?  I realize the $10 is lifetime.  I will be 60 soon, so if the $80 is a lifetime it might be worth it if I visit a lot soon.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2009, 11:06:10 AM »
You won't need the pass until you actually use it. Anyplace you use it you can get one. So wait till you are going someplace you need one and get one there.

Let me clarify the two passes. There is the Access pass (used to be Golden Access) which is free if you can prove a disability. Then there is the Senior pass (used to be Golden Age) which cost $10 to anyone 62 and older. Both passes have the same benefits, free admission to parks, half price off campgrounds. Then there is the America the Beautiful pass which costs $80 and gets you into any park for free but does not give you any discount on campground fees.The Access and Senior pass is lifetime and the America the Beautiful is a yearly pass.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2009, 11:10:54 AM »
Tom did a good job explaining. You can get the "official" poop here.

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« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2009, 11:45:46 AM »
Tom did a good job explaining. You can get the "official" poop here.

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Off topic but I see you signed one of your posts Pahrum, NV. Are you still there? We are thinking of checking that area out for a winter home.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2009, 12:22:24 PM »
Not in Pahrump now, home in Colorado. We like Pahrump, lots of RV parks there. Terrible's Lakeside Resort is one of our favorite parks. Death Valley and Las Vegas can be day trips.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2009, 07:03:17 AM »
I'm not really sure how the pass helps, but. Is it something I should have for our 36 day trip out west coming up?
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2009, 08:25:01 AM »
Probably, if you plan to see many national parks, monuments, etc.. For $80, it gives you and your family free entrance to all the National parks and monuments. If you are over 62, the Senior Pass is only $10 and includes half price camping in all federal parks.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2009, 10:28:43 AM »
Entrance to the National Park Service "Crown Jewels" (Yosemite, Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, etc.) is $20 each so it doesn't take long to recoup the $80 cost of the pass. And if you're a senior, it's a really good deal at $10. Either pass is good for a year from the date of purchase so you could continue to use it after your vacation to the west.

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« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2009, 07:58:36 AM »
Does 42 make me a senior? :)
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2009, 08:57:49 AM »
I spoke with a ranger that dispenses passes, he said he doesn't check ID, you might try him.  However, when you get to the gate the entrance guy wants photo-id and pass.  That is the snag.  Ihave 10 times less wait than you,   ;D
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2009, 11:23:28 AM »
Some things are worth waiting for. Senior discounts are just one of them. I can hardly wait for Mike to reach 64 so we can stay in Colorado state parks for half-price and get a property tax waiver.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2009, 12:40:32 PM »
Gary,

The back of my America the Beautiful card reads, "NOT covered: camping,tours, special recreation fees, etc.....". I am 62+ and have never received any discount for camping. Have you, or others, received a 50% discount for camp fees?

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2009, 01:15:25 PM »
Terry Brewer turned 62 while we were all at Zion this Spring and they would not issue his pass a day early and did require a photo ID to issue the "Geezer Pass".

We were all over Colorado getting 1/2 price camping in National Forest Service Campgrounds last month.
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2009, 01:35:51 PM »
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The back of my America the Beautiful card reads, "NOT covered: camping,tours, special recreation fees, etc.....". I am 62+ and have never received any discount for camping. Have you, or others, received a 50% discount for camp fees?

Spent 5 days at a Corp of Engineers park for half price just two weeks ago. You have to have the Senior Pass for the 50% discount, even if you already have the standard one and are over 62.

Further down on the card it says:
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MAY entitle holder to 50% discount on certain fees.
Being a senior gets you the 50% off on camping fees and some other fees, except for things operated by a concessionaire. It can get convoluted sometimes as to what is free, what is 50% discount and what is full price, but mostly we get either free or half off. Parking at Mt Rushmore is the most irritating exception I know of - no discount at all there because it is a concessionaire owned and operated parking facility. The admission is "free" but you can't go in with a vehicle without paying the parking fee (there is no other parking).

http://www.nps.gov/fees_passes.htm
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2009, 02:40:24 PM »
jackm,       Do you have the "senior" pass (purchased after turning 62) or did you turn 62 after getting a regular pass??.  ??? ???  I have been using the access(broken) pass for years ( am now almost 70/still broken)-- really like the 50% off the camping fees - can stay a few days longer. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2009, 07:25:06 PM »
Just to be clear, there are THREE America the Beautiful passes -

Annual Pass - cost $80, good for entrance into NPS, Forest Service, COE sites for one vehicle and up to 4 adults

Senior Pass - cost $10, can be purchased by anyone over 62, good for entrance and half-off camping

Access Pass - free to certain disabled individuals, good for free entrance and half-off camping

Check here for details or ask the next time you're visiting a federal site.

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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2009, 08:06:39 PM »
Senior Pass - cost $10, can be purchased by anyone over 62, good for entrance and half-off camping

Access Pass - free to certain disabled individuals, good for free entrance and half-off camping

O, a disabled senior gets both passes and camps free, or 50% off then another 50% off making it 75% in total? I guss that would depend on the math savvy of the gate guy.

Showing my work.
$10 camping fdee, 50% = $5. 
$5 adjusted fe, second50% = $2.50 camping fee. 
$2.50 is 75% of $10.

Now the less math savvy guy would add he 2 50% getting 100%, thereby getting you free camping.  He is also the guy buying lottery tickets to bcome wealthy.
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« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2009, 08:17:42 PM »
Bill, Wish it were.  Only get one 50% off  even if you are both old and broken. >:(  Can't take much off "Get in Free" don't think they will PAY you to go to the park ;D ;D ;D
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Re: America The Beautiful Park Pass Implemented
« Reply #59 on: July 09, 2009, 08:44:33 PM »
Sorry Bill. I have an Access pass and Mike has an Access pass so with your math, we should be paying 25% for camping. Also, my Dad has both an Access and a Senior pass and Mom has a Senior pass so your math would have them paying 12.5%. You only get one discount and the folks who work for the parks really aren't that stupid.

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