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Kaputnick

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Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« on: June 05, 2016, 04:13:18 PM »
    We are the third owners of the motorhome and new to class A. I noticed that my EMS was not showing any reading so I removed to cover and found that there was no unit? It looks like it was not installed in the first place.
    The previous owner did not have this worked on or removed. All systems have been working so I was wondering if there was some reason this might have been remove? When I pulled the complete monitor panel it does not appear to have ever been installed. Does Winnebago have a checklist before the ship?
Would this be a dealer issue?
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John Hilley

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2016, 04:22:44 PM »
If the display panel is there, it must have been originally installed.
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2016, 04:23:49 PM »
Look at your brochure to determine if it was standard or an option.  Also you can call Winnebago Owner Relations tomorrow and give them your coach serial number,  they should have a build sheet for your unit.
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Kaputnick

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2016, 04:31:15 PM »
It is listed on the original factory sticker and is a standard item.
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ennored

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 05:43:29 PM »
There is no "unit" behind the display panel. It lives in the power center

You can see it in the attached photo near the bottom.
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Kaputnick

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2016, 05:50:26 PM »
There is no "unit" behind the display panel. It lives in the power center

You can see it in the attached photo near the bottom.


So there is no display on the monitor tower? The manual indicates that you can view the amps and distribution of the power.
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John Hilley

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2016, 07:39:40 PM »
On 30 amps or less it displays the amps and status of lines that can be shed
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Kaputnick

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2016, 09:03:12 PM »
On 30 amps or less it displays the amps and status of lines that can be shed
Thank you all, the display panel (led lights, bulbs, etc.) is not there. It must have failed or was never in place. From what I have seen there should be some lights and or values displayed but that is missing.
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 06:33:18 AM »
Sounds like a previous owner had the guts of the EMS removed.  Did you have the RV inspected before you purchased?
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Gary RV_Wizard

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2016, 08:36:24 AM »
Next question is whether it is just the remote display that is gone, or is the real EMS logic gone as well. That is part of the load center and usually located behind the breakers.

The only thing that is lost here is the ability of the coach to automatically limit power consumption to 30A, i.e. avoid tripping a 30A circuit breaker on the external power source. Not really a big deal and something that most people end up managing manually anyway.
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John Canfield

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2016, 10:34:45 AM »
Next question is whether it is just the remote display that is gone, or is the real EMS logic gone as well. That is part of the load center and usually located behind the breakers...
Exactly what I was wondering.
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2016, 12:29:19 PM »
One possibility is that it failed for one of the prior owners and they hit an issue fixing/replacing the unit due to parts being no longer available.  See this thread...

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,53000.msg489889.html%23msg489889

I hit this myself when I thought I needed to replace my '04 Powerline display panel, but was able to repair mine with some careful soldering.  In any case the link above gives upgraded part #s etc if you need to go that route. 
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2016, 11:49:44 AM »
That Powerline EMS is an Intelletec EMS re-branded for Winnie.

How about an RV salvage yard as a source? Got to be many of them out there.
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Kaputnick

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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2016, 09:14:32 AM »
Winnebago rep said that it should be there or at least 9 out of 10 units were installed. The EMS is working and the previous owner did not have the display panel removed. The rep also said that they have them in stock and can purchase at their costs. I assume that the wires are there but at this time I can live with it.
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2016, 10:21:39 AM »
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...or at least 9 out of 10 units were installed

Is he saying they install all the parts just 90% of the time? And 10% of the coaches have some stuff missing?
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2016, 11:03:15 AM »
It could have been an option on some models.
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2016, 11:45:47 AM »
Of course, but I assume he was inquiring about his own specific coach when he called Winnie. Any options would be identified on the build specs.
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Re: Proline Energy Management System Removed?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2016, 06:38:49 PM »
That's why he should have provided his serial number to Winnie, they can look at his build data.
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