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Chet18013

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A black and white experiment
« on: July 01, 2016, 12:24:23 PM »
Last week we took a jet boat trip from Wrangell, AK to LaConte glacier and back. I took over 300 photos on the trip and decided to see what the glacier looked like in B&W. Here's one I like.

This glacier is fed from a huge area that funnels down to this narrow face. The location of the face has been fairly stable for the last 10 years even as the glacier moves down and calves off. The glacier's rate of forward movement and breaking off is about 75 feet per day. The water depth at the face is over 700 feet. Our guide has seen huge chunks break off and then rise up in the air several hundred feet and explode apart from the pressure release.
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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 01:14:55 PM »
Interesting. Did you also bracket and put it through HDR processing? The haloing in the image is very distracting and leads me to think HDR is also involved. I like the idea of b&w on something like this. Any images of just the b&w conversion without HDR? If not HDR, why so halo-y?
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Chet18013

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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 01:34:28 PM »
Interesting. Did you also bracket and put it through HDR processing? The haloing in the image is very distracting and leads me to think HDR is also involved. I like the idea of b&w on something like this. Any images of just the b&w conversion without HDR? If not HDR, why so halo-y?

You are correct. I did process three shots as an HDR. However the haloing is more due to the fact that the day was cloudy with patches of sunlight in narrow bands that were making the glacier and ice field have bands of light and dark areas. Very unique conditions.
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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 06:59:53 PM »
Nice, but can't you change to black and white in photoshop or some other package?  Then you have the best of both worlds  :D
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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2016, 12:13:59 AM »
Chet, do you have the free copy of the Nik Collection? 

I was playing with the Nik Collection a few days ago and found some B & W presets I like in the Silver Efex Pro 2 portion of the Nik Collection.  Although I was experimenting with a portrait and not a landscape, one of my favorite B & W presets for the image I was working on was "Full Dynamic (Harsh)"   There are also two presets in HDR Efex Pro 2 section of the Nik Collection.  One is for merging a multiple image series and the other is for tone mapping a single image.  My mistake was that I  customized a "recipe" for an image and really liked the result but I fortunately didn't make a new preset nor did I save the image.   :( :'(  Lesson learned, I hope.
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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2016, 12:32:59 PM »
Here's the same shot converted to B&W in Lightroom, without HDR.
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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 09:14:09 PM »
The beauty of b&w is capturing light and dark and shapes. The un HDR version does that well. It's just not sharp. I hope it was ok, but I brought shadows up, increased contrast a bit, bumped up  midtones, and added just a smidge of unsharp mask to the image.
Here's what I got.

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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2016, 09:47:09 PM »
Isn't it amazing what we can to with editing?  Ansel Adams would have loved digital.
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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2016, 10:04:41 PM »
Isn't it amazing what we can to with editing?  Ansel Adams would have loved digital.

Or, perhaps, not.

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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2016, 11:18:26 AM »
Or, perhaps, not.

One of Ansel Adam's well-known quotes is "You don't take a photograph, you make it". 

In an exclusive interview with Ansel Adams' son Michael, he said that today his father "would be fascinated with what digital has to offer".   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pUSKskU0n8

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Re: A black and white experiment
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2016, 08:35:09 PM »
The shot without the HDR would have been fine had you compensated with your exposure. You ended up underexposed from what I am looking at.  The light meter always tries to make your snow gray.  Increase the exposure about 1.5 stops and you would have a pretty nice image.
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