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« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2016, 08:44:15 PM »
I once walked over to an adjoining table in a restaurant where a guy was holding a loud conversation on speaker phone and joined the call. I told them that since we had to listen to the call, I might as well be part of it.
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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2016, 10:38:58 PM »
It may be illegal to use get caught using one,  but now I want one of those Chinese cell phone blockers..
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2016, 12:23:53 PM »
So far we have people who want to stick someone's phone where it wouldn't be easily accessible, build Faraday cages in schools,using radio signal interference to control other people's behavior and deciding, with absolutely no basis in fact, how other people feel when dining companions use technology. Whatever happened to mind your own business? If one doesn't like people using technology in their presence that is fine, and should be communicated prior to being with those people. Maybe send a text? LOL. I find this more to be an issue with "mature" people. Please do not try to force upon me, and other people, your opinions on the proper times and places to use technology. We should all set our own individual boundaries without trampling on other people's rights.
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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2016, 01:01:41 PM »
So far we have people who want to stick someone's phone where it wouldn't be easily accessible, build Faraday cages in schools,using radio signal interference to control other people's behavior and deciding, with absolutely no basis in fact, how other people feel when dining companions use technology. Whatever happened to mind your own business? If one doesn't like people using technology in their presence that is fine, and should be communicated prior to being with those people. Maybe send a text? LOL. I find this more to be an issue with "mature" people. Please do not try to force upon me, and other people, your opinions on the proper times and places to use technology. We should all set our own individual boundaries without trampling on other people's rights.
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Obviously YOU are missing the whole point... Many of us would very much like to mind our own business, but we are being infringed upon by the inconsiderate actions of the ones who are loud and obnoxious behavior with their electronics devices.
What I said earlier a restaurant having a dining room with a Faraday cage was for people who CHOOSE to use such an area of their own free will in order to be free of the annoying devices. There are some people who would appreciate their desires to be met too, you know .... well maybe you don't??
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2016, 01:55:13 PM »
Obviously YOU are missing the whole point... Many of us would very much like to mind our own business, but we are being infringed upon by the inconsiderate actions of the ones who are loud and obnoxious behavior with their electronics devices.
What I said earlier a restaurant having a dining room with a Faraday cage was for people who CHOOSE to use such an area of their own free will in order to be free of the annoying devices. There are some people who would appreciate their desires to be met too, you know .... well maybe you don't??

I don't think I missed any points. Is there a difference between technology users and just plain old loud people? Unless you are in a fine dining establishment, a number of which have no cell phones at the table policies, there has to be a reasonable expectation that some noise from the other guests will be happening. Just the proximity of the tables, not to mention the acoustics, in a casual dining restaurant will make that environment reasonably noisy. We have many rights in this great country, the right to not be offended/outraged is not one of them. If an establishment had the environment you so dislike I would not patronize it. I would not expect everyone to meet my expectations. Our comfort and happiness is not anyone's responsibility, it is ours alone. Vote with your wallet, don't patronize those noisy establishments, and see if that brings about the changes you desire.
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2016, 02:10:44 PM »
First you are offended because you see someone on a cell phone.

Now you're offended because someone at an adjacent table could handle their business in a quiet, professional manner while eating their dinner. Frankly, our table was much louder after she was done with her business and all three of us caught up on each other's lives.

Maybe it is you who should pay more attention to your own dinner guest and less time staring at the actions of every other patron in the establishment, who must find you really rude.
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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2016, 02:15:20 PM »
We have many rights in this great country, the right to not be offended/outraged is not one of them.

I have to disagree to a certain extent. Remember years ago when they came out with those huge boom boxes. Kids would need a forklift to carry them around they were so big. They would take them to the beaches in my area and crank the volume up on them. People got so tired of hearing that they complained and before long they were outlawed on the beaches. Just like loud exhaust/mufflers on cars,  loud music from cars and loud motorcycles.   
Just like smoking in restaurants. It's Illegal in most states as far as I know because smokers were infringing on my rights and health.
If you ant to use your electronic devices in restaurants, please have the courtesy to walk away so that people can enjoy their meal and not have to listen to what's transpired that day in someone's life.
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2016, 03:54:17 PM »
I have to disagree to a certain extent. Remember years ago when they came out with those huge boom boxes. Kids would need a forklift to carry them around they were so big. They would take them to the beaches in my area and crank the volume up on them. People got so tired of hearing that they complained and before long they were outlawed on the beaches. Just like loud exhaust/mufflers on cars,  loud music from cars and loud motorcycles.   
Just like smoking in restaurants. It's Illegal in most states as far as I know because smokers were infringing on my rights and health.
If you ant to use your electronic devices in restaurants, please have the courtesy to walk away so that people can enjoy their meal and not have to listen to what's transpired that day in someone's life.

The boom boxes is a great example of exactly what I was talking about. People voted with their wallet and/or complained and a new policy was started. Why not use the same tactic for, what some perceive, rude people on electronic devices? If enough people complain changes will be made, otherwise we have a new norm.
Since we are all guaranteed the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness I understand the smoking ban for obvious reasons. Maybe even the loud mufflers to protect our hearing above a certain decibel level. Someone talking at the next table? Not so much. Kids bugging "mature" people by having their noses in an electronic device, not really. As has been said before, there really is no difference between a loud group seated near you and someone on an electronic device. If it bugs you that much inform management that you will no longer patronize that establishment unless things change. Don't expect everyone to conform to your standard of quiet. Most restaurants and bars don't have a library.
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2016, 06:00:11 PM »
If someone is using a phone in a public place it doesn't bother me, however if they are loudly talking I will move closer and in an obvious way listen in to the conversation. They usually will move away or disconnect.

On a completely different  note. I once saw a young girl texting while she was walking across a parking lot. She tripped on a curb and fell face first into a planter. She got up, brushed herself off and fell into the same planter again. But she never dropped the iphone or missed a text.

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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2016, 06:07:24 PM »
On a completely different  note. I once saw a young girl texting while she was walking across a parking lot. She tripped on a curb and fell face first into a planter. She got up, brushed herself off and fell into the same planter again. But she never dropped the iphone or missed a text.

Ah yes "walking while texting" could be the next major threat out there on the streets... threat to themselves that is.  Watching people ride a bicycle while texting (or even just talking on the cell phone) is even more laughable!
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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2016, 09:19:58 PM »
IMO ).............the "Electronic Device" is probably responsible for more traffic accidents than drunk driving is today.

cell phones kill motorcyclist,    I know several people killed by these same people that are addicted to their..... 'Electronic Device' .
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2016, 06:50:53 AM »
Alas I know someone who texts while driving....
I have my own way of doing that.. I usually have the phone in a holder, playing TORQUE (A Glass Dash application) monitoring engine performance..  So when a message beeps in I can glance and read the pop up so I know what it is.. "New sale at Tangier Mall" Ignore it.. Something Important from the young lady above.. Find a parking spot and deal with it, then continue on.
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2016, 07:11:36 AM »
NH passed a law recently banning the use of a cell phone while driving, period. Even if you're stopped at a red light or a stop sign. It's still illegal.  I love it.  :)
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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2016, 07:39:14 AM »
Sounds like NH is a little slow Rene; California passed such a law some years ago, and subsequently passed a separate "no texting while driving" law. Mayor Chan of Oakland was caught on video clearly holding her phone up; She was let off, claiming she was using the GPS app, not making a call or texting  ::)
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2016, 07:44:24 AM »
Sounds like NH is a little slow Rene; California passed such a law some years ago, and subsequently passed a separate "no texting while driving" law.

We are a little slow.   ;D :D ;)  Some people still have Princess phones. How many members never heard of them?  No more party lines either.
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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2016, 07:49:07 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2016, 07:57:14 AM »
I have been in the New England area for a while now, and have seen tons of people messing with their phones while driving. It's easy to tell, they are the ones driving slower, and slower, and slower........
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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2016, 08:04:08 AM »
Some people still have Princess phones. How many members never heard of them?

We don't have a land line, but DW still has a pink Princess phone.Our granddaughter that recently turned four loves to play with it.
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« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2016, 09:58:13 PM »
Ah yes "walking while texting" could be the next major threat out there on the streets... threat to themselves that is. 

We toured James Madison's Montpelier today. The tour was over, and our group was going down the stairs from the 2nd floor. An older teen with the group fell down several stairs because he was........you guessed it....texting or whatever on his phone!!!!
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« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2016, 10:10:57 PM »
What a great kid that teenager must be! I hope you helped him up and expressed concern for any bumps he may have received.

He was probably using a mouse tracks or other program to save his aged grandparents a few steps going back to the car. What a kid!!
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« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2016, 04:52:13 AM »
Maybe this is a sign that some restaurants need to take the initiative and introduce a dining area with a "cell free zone". How hard would it be to build a room with a Faraday cage around it so no electronics would operate within the area?

I kind of like this idea. But not physically blocking the signal, just an enforced rule. Remember being asked by the hostess "smoking or non-smoking?" Now it can be "texting or non-texting?"
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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2016, 07:33:38 AM »
IMO ).............the "Electronic Device" is probably responsible for more traffic accidents than drunk driving is today.

cell phones kill motorcyclist,    I know several people killed by these same people that are addicted to their..... 'Electronic Device' .

I just lost a friend this year that had made it thru life 85 years. He was in great health and was working with his son doing landscaping when he was run over by a person on their cellphone. He was against the curb on a standup mower in a residential neighborhood when she crushed him.
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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2016, 08:12:19 AM »
We are a little slow.   ;D :D ;)  Some people still have Princess phones. How many members never heard of them?  No more party lines either.

We don't have a Princess, but we do have a couple of Trimline's (R), one on the wall and one on a nightstand.  ::)
They're especially helpful if the power goes out, since they're powered from the central office.
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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2016, 03:37:09 PM »
British Columbia has a law against using hand held devices while driving and the fines recently got much stiffer. Some still don't get it, one recently lost her license after the 15th ticket. The fines were just part of the cost of doing business. A bylaw has been proposed to ban texting while walking in public places in Vancouver but it likely won't fly. Even if it does enforcement would be difficult to say the least.
I try not to sweat the small stuff. I recently attended a funeral, one of the family members who was old enough to know better wore his ball cap during the service. Very rude but none of my business, same with a hat on at the table. If somebody is talking loudly on a phone I just move away. I don't have the right to not be offended.
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« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2016, 05:19:56 PM »
My wife was called into work (Hospice On Call) Saturday because the Duty On Call Nurse was going to a patient's house and had her laptop open on the passenger seat and speculation was, she may have looked down at the computer and drive at the same time and hit a curb, bounced over it and hit a tree and was injured severely, taken to Iowa City on the Life Flight Helicopter.  She was taken off the machines today. She did not make it.

From one stand point this is tragic.  From  another, at least she took no one else along with her.

My wife told me that the reason Hospital Hospice Dept went to computers for the Hospice nurses was because a couple of years ago another nurse died in an accident and Patient Records (paper) were strewn all across the accident site and many were lost.
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2016, 11:24:50 PM »
What is going on?  Have the people completely lost their minds?  Where does this rudeness come from? 

I have seen the commercial about "digital dead walkers"  I guess I am now starting to slightly understand.  I think that these digitally addicted could be led off a cliff like lemmings and the world would be a better place.

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I don't think is rudeness, it's a real disease. Virtual world is addictive and so the victims are addicts. It's like any drug, it creates dependency and they feel real discomfort if they stop using the internet, games, apps, etc.
Last week our family with my father in-law where walking in the park, I was with the kids at the play area and DH and his dad where talking politics, etc. Then we noticed dozens of people, mostly young, in their 20's, walking in groups or in couples, staring at their phones, all of them... Some where holding one hand, while the other was active on the phone. We live in a small city, but the "zombie bug" is everywhere. And now is a complete hysteria going on with that Pokemon game... :o
The computer, tablet, laptop do the same thing. So many people are spending the vast majority of their awake time, in front of a gadget of some kind.
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« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2016, 12:25:21 AM »
This entire thread would be hilarious except for the fact that conversations such as this will soon be taking place:

"Hey Mom, did I have grandparents?"

"Of course you did... here, I'll send you a picture of them."
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« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2016, 06:41:20 AM »
This entire thread would be hilarious except for the fact that conversations such as this will soon be taking place:

"Hey Mom, did I have grandparents?"

"Of course you did... here, I'll send you a picture of them."

They are the one's with nothing in there hands.   ;D
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« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2016, 04:35:16 PM »
This thread has become even more true with the explosion of Pokemon Go recently.  It's a digital app game that is based on GPS maps and requires users to physically travel around their areas to locate different goals in the game (not unlike geocaching with time restrictions).  Now there are all sorts of recent documented cases of people walking out in traffic, trespassing on restricted property, and basically having no regard for themselves/others... all in the name of finding some digital trinket that means nothing.
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« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2016, 06:13:37 PM »
I was following what I thought to be a drunk driver last week. When he finally pulled over, I could see that the idiot was playing Pokemon while driving.
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