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herekittykitty

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I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« on: July 31, 2016, 12:36:28 AM »
Yeah, they look nice. But only 1 of the 3 (the top pull is a cutting board/pull-out extra surface which I'll keep), pulls out smoothly.

I just had someone replace a pair of slides on the least functional drawer, and I can't say it went well. At least the new slides won't start spitting ball bearings anytime soon, but pulling out the drawer is not exactly a smooth experience.

I'm FT and these are probably my most-accessed storage.

What to do?

(a) While it would be irreversible, I'm fully ready to cut out all of the whatever-they're-called pieces of wood in between the drawers (aprons?), remove all the hardware, and try to find a free-standing drawer unit to stick in this space.
(b) Not even sure that's doable - space would be max 13" wide by max 23-1/2" tall x max 16" deep - don't know if there is anything ready-made to these dimensions.
(c) As usual, I'm on a TIGHT budget, so it's unlikely I could get someone to make something custom to fit.
(d) But even if I had the cash, I have NO IDEA where one goes to have cabinet work like this done on a rig I cannot vacate? (They would have to be between Southern WA and Southern CA).
(e) Maybe instead of drawers, I put in some kind of shelves or a shelving unit, and put boxes on each shelf I can pull out instead. Would be willing to do that.

What have all you other remodelers done?
Ideas??
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2016, 02:03:50 AM »
I would find a mobile carpenter on Craigslist to get an estimate.
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2016, 05:48:16 AM »
In Panama City Beach, winter guests have a club that supports geezers like me with a full woodworking shop along with other craft gadgets such as pottery kilns as an example.

My point is the guys and gals enjoy helping others with their talents and woodworking abilities when asked. If you can locate a simular organization close by you may have a free source of labor and equipment, just help supply the materials.

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 07:18:57 AM »
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... I have NO IDEA where one goes to have cabinet work like this done on a rig I cannot vacate? (They would have to be between Southern WA and Southern CA)

We were able to stay in our coach when we had a desk and credenza built/installed  at Davis Cabinets in Junction City, Oregon. We boondocked overnight with other coaches in their parking lot at the back of their shop. They're a little expensive, but I believe there are now more affordable shops in that general area. I'll see if I can find a reference and link(s) posted by forum members.
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2016, 07:37:57 AM »
They are nice looking drawers. There must be a cabinet worker somewhere in the vicinity where you're at who could repair them the make then operate with ease.
Maybe if you tells us what campground you are in and someone on the forum may be able to send you a PM and fix you up.  If you were in NH, I'd be happy to take a look at it. 
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2016, 01:03:40 PM »
A good handyman should be able to replace the existing slides with quality units.
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2016, 05:11:49 PM »
It really makes me mad that craftsmen(women) do a job half way.  Hanging drawers is a basic skill.  If you can't do it on the easy to install slides they make today, you shouldn't be charging money to someone for trying or learning.  Good luck with getting help from a local person.
Check to see what the slides you are using are rated for in pounds. Maybe you need to use a higher rating. If you were near the gateway arch I'd look at it for you.

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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2016, 08:05:03 PM »
I would find a mobile carpenter on Craigslist to get an estimate.

That NEVER would have occurred to me. Thanks, SeilerBird! I jumped right on this. We'll see what kind of replies I get.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 08:59:32 PM by herekittykitty »
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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2016, 08:53:14 PM »
We were able to stay in our coach when we had a desk and credenza built/installed  at Davis Cabinets in Junction City, Oregon. We boondocked overnight with other coaches in their parking lot at the back of their shop. They're a little expensive, but I believe there are now more affordable shops in that general area. I'll see if I can find a reference and link(s) posted by forum members.

Thanks, Tom. I could work Junction City into my trek south in October.

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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2016, 08:57:59 PM »
In Panama City Beach, winter guests have a club that supports geezers like me with a full woodworking shop along with other craft gadgets such as pottery kilns as an example.

My point is the guys and gals enjoy helping others with their talents and woodworking abilities when asked. If you can locate a simular organization close by you may have a free source of labor and equipment, just help supply the materials.

Oh, wow... my parents live in a Del Webb that I could hit up on my way south this fall. That place has EVERYTHING. That also wouldn't have occurred to me.

I'm sure my folks could hook me up with some friend of theirs who would jump at the chance to help, and show off his/her woodworking skills.

They don't like RVs smelling up their neighborhood, but I can park it for, I think, 2 nights as long as I don't sleep in my own bedroom.  ::) That might just work....
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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2016, 09:01:58 PM »
They are nice looking drawers. There must be a cabinet worker somewhere in the vicinity where you're at who could repair them the make then operate with ease.
Maybe if you tells us what campground you are in and someone on the forum may be able to send you a PM and fix you up.  If you were in NH, I'd be happy to take a look at it.

A couple of months ago I asked on the Thousand Trails Facebook page (10,000 members = lots of help) if anyone could help me replace the slides.

Crickets.

NObody wants to work on drawer slides.  ;D
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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2016, 09:08:25 PM »
It really makes me mad that craftsmen(women) do a job half way.  Hanging drawers is a basic skill.  If you can't do it on the easy to install slides they make today, you shouldn't be charging money to someone for trying or learning.  Good luck with getting help from a local person.
Check to see what the slides you are using are rated for in pounds. Maybe you need to use a higher rating. If you were near the gateway arch I'd look at it for you.

Mary--retired from trim carpentry, before I retired as cook.

Don't be too hard on him, Mary. Because I'm mobile I had no idea who to ask, so I called the only mobile RV repair guy who hits up the park where I spend my summers. He said yes just to be nice, doesn't normally do this kind of work, has no real experience with it, and ended up not charging me for the job he did, because the drawer was no better once he finished than it was before (except that now I won't be picking ball bearings up off my kitchen floor).

I bought much better slides than what was originally in there, so I guess I just need someone who really knows how to do this.
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2016, 10:24:41 AM »
Or do it yourself! It's hardly brain surgery. A screwdriver and perhaps a drill is all that's required. Then just read and follow the instructions. That is:

Remove drawer.
Remove old slide components using screwdriver.
Measure carefully per instructions and mark both the drawer and cabinet.
Attach components with screws provided. (May wish to use punch or drill to start screw holes).
Install drawer!

Congradulations,

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2016, 11:20:22 AM »
you can replace the slides with ball bearing full extension slides, they run about $20 a pair, this would make them open fully and glide very smoothly, the garbage ones they use are best suited for the landfill.
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2016, 07:07:22 AM »
as a professional cabinet maker my opinion of rv interiors would make anybody blush

the "cabinetry" is terrible on most ive seem including ours.

drawer slides are easily replaced but new "European" style kitchen drawer slides require a drawer box 1 inch smaller than the opening, undermount slides are an option but even trickier to install

I would remove the drawers and hardware, cut the face frame out between the drawers and get a door to fit the opening.  a decent kitchen cabinet shop can make a closely matching door or there are places online to order from.  ive made doors to match existing ones in my trailers but I definetly requires some specialised tools and skills
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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2016, 12:35:37 AM »
Or do it yourself! It's hardly brain surgery. A screwdriver and perhaps a drill is all that's required. Then just read and follow the instructions. That is:

Remove drawer.
Remove old slide components using screwdriver.
Measure carefully per instructions and mark both the drawer and cabinet.
Attach components with screws provided. (May wish to use punch or drill to start screw holes).
Install drawer!

Congradulations,

Ernie

If this had been "easy", I would have done it myself. So, no, this isn't easy.
As it was, I discovered that the guy who replaced the one set screwed a hole right through the back wall and into my bathroom wall! The end of the screw is sticking out of the wall.

 >:(
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herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2016, 12:41:43 AM »
as a professional cabinet maker my opinion of rv interiors would make anybody blush

the "cabinetry" is terrible on most ive seem including ours.

drawer slides are easily replaced but new "European" style kitchen drawer slides require a drawer box 1 inch smaller than the opening, undermount slides are an option but even trickier to install

I would remove the drawers and hardware, cut the face frame out between the drawers and get a door to fit the opening.  a decent kitchen cabinet shop can make a closely matching door or there are places online to order from.  ive made doors to match existing ones in my trailers but I definetly requires some specialised tools and skills

Thanks, Steve.

Where could I order something online?

Interestingly, I got not ONE response to my Craigslist ad.
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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2016, 01:57:54 AM »
 If your in the Sacramento area PM me and I can fix your drawers, I am a Journeyman cabinet builder, and also own a 34' Bounder, I'm in the process of replacing most of my drawers and making new ones in areas where there aren't any. I have my own shop at my house. Let me know if I can help.

herekittykitty

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Re: I have so HAD it with these kitchen drawers!
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2016, 11:48:26 PM »
Hi Jim,

Right now I'm planning to be coming through Northern Calif in October. Parents live in Lincoln. I might actually be able to look you up then! Thanks for the offer. I'll keep it in mind and let you know.
Karen and Teddy-the-Kitty
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