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Frankedj

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88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« on: September 23, 2016, 08:44:07 AM »
My first RV. I paid $5,500 for the rig from a car dealer my nephew is a mechanic at. Under 32k miles. Every piece of documentation for the RV was kept in a large binder since this was new. All replacement item docs were dated and added to the binder. Water damage was minimal but the most recent roof/seam coating was black on a white roof.

So far I have dumped about 4 times the amount I bought it for into this with some thousands more to go. The biggest chunk is going into the solar which is currently around $8,000. Six 100 watts panels, six 220ah 6v Crown AGM, 4/0 battery & inverter cables, 2/0 to old fuse center, 4ga from roof, 4ga to sound system, dual fused solar disconnect (in/out), wireless remote tilt w/ four 12 linear actuators. Magnum 2,000 Pure Sine Inverter with ME-ARC remote, Tri-Star 60 PWM controller with remote, Trimetric battery monitor, 500a shunt.

The solar tilt added about $1,000 to the cost of the electrical system. The frame is built from 6 steel triangular truss. Total weight of solar panels plus frame is under 250lbs spread out over a distance of about 14 x 4. My background is in designing/installing commercial sound and special effect lighting systems. The solar truss is a smaller version of what I used to hang over dancefloors to mount the lights on.

I gutted about half of the rig the day after I bought it. I removed two overhead cabinets, the dinette, sofa, two chairs and a side table up front. In the back I took out two twin beds and center night stand.

The couch I am building is made from steel 6 box truss with 3/8 rope being used to create a sling for a queen sized futon mattress. $1,000.00 in parts.

Being that my last career was as a sound designer the sound system for the rig is a bit on the extreme side. $3,000.00 in parts. Thirty drivers in total. A 30 band graphic equalizer, three 4 channel power amps, 2 active 2-way crossovers, 4 passive 3-way crossovers, twenty-four 4 woofers, two 10 subwoofers, four horn loaded tweeters. The eight bass speakers with two 4 woofers in each are made from 4 PVC and fittings. It is a bit on the heavy side but it weighs less than what I removed from that area. The sound system will have its own battery disconnect and fused power distribution system.

I will be fulltiming and mostly boondocking. This first rig is what I am using as a learning experience. Pulling apart so much of it lets me learn the materials and construction methods used. I am used to working construction on nightclubs and houses but this is a bit different.

In a few years I will upgrade to a better rig and transfer all of my major systems over to the newer rig. The next major purchases are new lp/elec fridge, front roof AC(if I cant fix it) & 8 new tires. There are a million things that I have to work on and it can get to be a little overwhelming at times.

The only timeline I have is to be South before it freezes in Illinois.

Right now I am getting ready to install the solar frame on the roof after having first assembled & tested it on the floor in the garage. I dont trust that the roof sheeting wont buckle under the stress of the tilt so I am putting exterior grade CDX under the hinge point and push off point for the actuators. I used two coats of Dicor on the plywood underside with three coats on the top and sides. I am waiting on another gallon of the roofing sealer and the Dicor tape as I will be sealing three sides of the plywood to the roof leaving the lowest edge open for drainage just in case water should get under the plywood. I dont want any water sealed under there. 1 self-drilling sheet metal screws will be used to hold down the plywood and solar frame to the aluminum roof frame. There is thick styrofoam between the roof frame and the roof sheeting.

I did have to move the grey water roof vent over 3 to make my solar frame position correctly but I was resealing everything up there anyways so moving the vent wasnt that big of a deal.

I have very little idea of what I am doing so I figure out everything as I get to it. I finally figured out how to stow a 48 flat screen with an articulated arm. A 9 deep black closed cell foam lined shadow box with a cutback in the center of the two sides for a strap to hold the tv into the box pushing it into the foam lining. I also have to come up with something padded and secured to hold my oversized computer gaming case. It needs 30 front to back including 6 rear clearance, 24 tall and 12 wide. 

I have been taking pics from the start so I can post lots of them. I am going for an industrial look using greys, black, white & red for the paint. Id prefer that all of the wood look goes away completely but that will probably wait until I get the next rig. I live outside of the box, no pun intended, so pretty much anything that I do on this rig wont be seen as normal. Eventually I will have a computer controlled pixel LED light show inside and possibly a little on the outside. I have about 90,000 LEDs. They are from a larger lighting project that I had planned on doing. I wont be using all of them in/on the rig.

The second pic shows how much I took out of this. An employee of the car dealer and his wife used to own this. When she passed away he left the RV as it was from the last time they used it. I told the dealer to leave it as is when I said that I would take it unseen. It was 90 miles from me at the time. The contents turned out to not have any value so I spent the first day emptying out every last stuffed full storage space in it.
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

Frankedj

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2016, 08:48:16 AM »
The solar tilt while it was in the garage.
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

Frankedj

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2016, 08:57:31 AM »
There used to be two swivel captains chairs with a fold down side table in this area. My computer will be added in there as well with the PS4 in the cabinet above where a VCR used to sit. The red box sitting on the counter is a dual fused disconnect for the solar controller. All of the new electrical is going inside of the rig including the batteries which is why I went with AGM.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2016, 09:24:31 AM by Frankedj »
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

Frankedj

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2016, 09:24:01 AM »
A pic from when I was tearing things out and a pic from the mess that is today. The window treatments will be six of my designs. The one showing in the pic is currently pulled up while I am working on that area. I still have two more to hang. This is me: http://www.ravelry.com/designers/frank-orandle Tides is the one in the window in the pic.
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

Paul & Ann

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
I have great admiration for your ambition!
Paul & Ann  Iowa
2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J
http://stoughrvadventure.blogspot.com/

Sun2Retire

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2016, 09:41:39 AM »
Wow. And I impress myself when I add a small gauge somewhere  ::)
Scott
2005 Newmar Dutch Star 3810, Spartan, Cat C7 350 "OURVEE"
Eezrv TPMS, VMSpc, 800W Solar
2002 Dodge RAM 1500 Quad Cab "RTOAD"
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Frankedj

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2016, 10:37:50 AM »
I learned the most about solar from Handy Bob's blog. https://handybobsolar.wordpress.com/ His info isn't organized the best and he does tend to go off on rants about certain things but I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I also learned from Jack Mayer's website. http://www.jackdanmayer.com/

I spent about a year learning things before I started ordering the parts.

Start into solar with calculating your energy usage that you expect to be using. Magnum Energy has a good tutorial and spreadsheet in their inverter manuals for calculating your usage to determine the size of battery bank you will need. I used a remote Kill-a-watt meter to calculate the actual wattages used by the electronics and other things that I will use.

Mine was about 330ah not including my sound system which will only be used on occasion. My six 6v 220ah batteries wired in three sets of series gives me 660ah. With 50% usage it gives me my 330ah without damaging the batteries.

I have lots of monitoring capabilities and safeguards in the equipment I am hooking up so drawing the batteries down too far will be avoidable. The battery box is located inside the rig behind the front seats and spans the width of the rig. It has 10 compartments. I have the batteries in the center six compartments. I don't have any usable basement space big enough or heavy duty enough to have this many batteries so I put them inside which is why I went with AGM. There used to be three 12v deep cycle batteries on a slide out tray in the basement behind the drivers seat so tying into the bigger 12v distribution system was the easiest part of the entire venture.

There is one last part of it that I have to get figured out when I get to the point of tying shore/generator power directly into the inverter. The model of inverter I bought has relays in it and can be configured in quite a few ways in regards to power in and out. It can do two in and two out and switch between what goes where.

It can also do:
one in, one out
one in, two out
two in, one out

All this work just to make sure that I always have hot coffee every morning no matter where I am. I bought an Oxx K-cup coffee maker so that I only use short drains in power to make a 12 ounce cup. It is also built for having on jobsites. They claim that it is the worlds toughest coffee maker. https://oxx.com/ I do like mine.
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

Frankedj

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2016, 03:35:27 PM »
Mounted the frame and wired up the actuators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVkZRi1SH4
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

Frankedj

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Re: 88 HR 33 w/remote 600w solar tilt
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2016, 03:32:18 PM »
Installed the panels today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IndjBauuRc

After I took the video I wired everything in. The sky is overcast but it started charging the batteries.
1988 HR Imperial 33'
700 watts Renogy Mono solar panels
Tri-Star 60A PWM Solar Controller
Magnum MS2012-15B Pure Sine Inv.
Wireless remote solar tilt
TM-2030RV-F TriMetric Battery Monitor
Six Crown 6CRV220 AGM batteries with 4/0 cables
1,000+ watt 14 cabinet tri-amped sound system w/30 band EQ

 

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