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General Discussion / honda eu3000is
« Last post by packnrat on Today at 12:40:46 AM »
strange, the honda eu3000is was built for the rv. but does not have a "standard" 30 amp rv plugin.  why?
i know i like to simplify things,
everybody has to use adapters to hook into this unit, and the eu2000, 2200 models. (i know they have lower output) but can run most items, but not a ac unit, when alone.
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Towing and towables / Re: Dodge EcoDiesel
« Last post by aguablanco on October 23, 2018, 11:49:23 PM »
Well, here's the update.I did purchase the Ecodiesel. As I said earlier I tow 5-6k per year and I didn't want a 3/4 ton, or bigger, for a daily driver. While I wasn't towing today I got 23 mpg going up to 7000' from 1400'. Over on the Ram1500diesel forum they all extol the virtues of this set up. I really appreciate conversation that has taken place here. My thanks to everyone that contributed. I won't be towing for a couple of months but when I do I will start a thread to share my observations. Again, thanks for the info, it really helped.
RichH
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Trailers & Fifthwheels / Bad E.C.O?
« Last post by Irish Woody on October 23, 2018, 11:48:14 PM »
Having trouble with my Atwood water heater. When I use propane to heat the water,  the water heater works fine untill it reaches tempature. It shuts off like it is supose to, but then fires right back up, shuts off again immediately, then tries to fire up again and run, but shuts off and faults out. My guess is a bad E C O. Any thoughts?
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Motorhomes / Re: Procedure for recharging/starting Motorhome after a year sitting.
« Last post by Isaac-1 on October 23, 2018, 10:55:38 PM »
Is it stored outdoors, perhaps somewhere that you could use a solar charger kit like this placed inside the windshield while parked facing south https://smile.amazon.com/DOKIO-Monocrystalline-Foldable-Charge-Controller/dp/B0748FYFSK
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Rallies, Shows, & Events / Re: Death Valley rally November 4-11 2018
« Last post by UTTransplant on October 23, 2018, 10:19:20 PM »
Definitely fuel up in Pahrump, but Sunset campground does have water and a dump available if you run out of options. Get your grocery basics in Pahrump too. The DV store isnít very big though it does have things like some produce and milk. After Louís comment, we made a reservation at Wine Ridge RV Resort for one night. Expensive, but staying in DV will be cheap enough to make up for it.
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Newcomers' Corner / Re: Winterizing
« Last post by Rene T on October 23, 2018, 10:17:48 PM »
There's a kit you can buy and gets installed on the suction side of the pump. It allows you to suck the antifreeze right out of the gallon jug. No need to put antifreeze in your fresh water tank. Typically what I've heard is that you'd only have to use less than 2 gallons of antifreeze to winterize. 

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Permanent-Converter-Winterizing-Antifreeze/dp/B0006JJ588

Another thing you could do is pull the drain plug from your water heater tank just to verify that the bypass valves are indeed positioned correctly and that the tank is empty.
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Trailers & Fifthwheels / Re: Battery Trickler/Charger Question
« Last post by namumac1 on October 23, 2018, 10:12:56 PM »
Can you select the type of battery on your charger? If so make sure it is set on the Deep Cycle setting
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Motorhomes / Re: Procedure for recharging/starting Motorhome after a year sitting.
« Last post by rrfpacker on October 23, 2018, 09:56:32 PM »
Just to be clear Gary had a typo that should be 15 amp household outlet not 145 amp


When charging a pair of 6 volt batteries wired in series with a 12 volt charger, the charger cables should be connected to the positive and negative sides of the pair, not to the positive and negatives of each individual battery.

So  positive 12v charger cable / + 6V Battery - / inter battery jumper cable / + 6V Battery - / negative charger cable 

I hope that makes sense

I was wondering about this, too. Thank you.
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General Discussion / Re: 6 volt vs. 12 volt
« Last post by IBTripping on October 23, 2018, 09:56:29 PM »
Do what you want, just be aware that you won't find a 100 amp-hour 6 volt battery, which makes your interpretation moot.  6 volt batteries are typically 200 amp-hours each, meaning a pair wired in series will deliver 200 amp-hours at 12 volts.

Here are a couple of practical examples from the same source (Batteries Plus, a nationwide chain of battery stores).

First, a pair of 6 volt GC-2 deep cycle batteries:

Duracell GC-2 Golf Cart Battery



At $99 each, two six volt batteries will cost $198 for 12 volts, 225 amp-hours of storage.   That's 88 cents per amp-hour.

Next, a 12 volt, 105 amp-hour deep-cycle battery of the same brand, from the same source:

Duracell Group 31M 12 Volt Deep Cycle Battery

At $130 for 12 volts, 105 amp-hours of storage, it costs $1.24 per amp-hour.  While one of these batteries is three times as much storage as your present 12 volt, 35 amp-hour battery, you'll need two of these to approximately equal the capacity of a pair of 6 volt GC-2 batteries.

Your present battery is 12 volts at 35 amp-hours:

Duracell 12 volt 35 amp-hour battery

At 35 amp-hours of storage, it's considerably smaller than either of the above examples.  You'll need 6 of these to get the same performance as a pair of golf cart batteries, or 3 to equal the single 12 volt, 105 amp-hour battery.  At $90 for 35 amp-hours, it has a cost of $2.57 per amp-hour.

But note this is a maintenance free, sealed AGM battery.  The other examples are wet cell batteries, which require venting and occasionally replenishing the water levels.

The physical size and weight may also be a consideration.  The 35 amp-hour battery is 7.67"L x 5.13"H x 7.09" D and weighs 20 lbs.  Both the golf cart batteries and the 31M 12 volt batteries are considerably larger and heavier than this.

I hope this helps in your decision.

Lou, thanks for the info. Much better price than I found on Amazon. Fortunately, there is a vendor near me so I won't have to pay shipping. I'd prefer using a true deep cycle battery rather than marine. So, I'll start with a pair of 6v and add another pair if needed.

And, thanks to everyone else who commented. This discussion has been very educational and was a great help to me in making a decision on which batteries would best meet my needs.
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Motorhomes / Re: Procedure for recharging/starting Motorhome after a year sitting.
« Last post by rrfpacker on October 23, 2018, 09:55:50 PM »
Also, if you are planning on taking the batteries out for any reason, take out your phone and take a couple of pictures from above the batteries of how they are wired. Might really help when putting the batteries back in. If you can, in the future have your coach plugged in, even if for a year or more. No harm in doing this, just have to check the fluid levels in the batteries. Or even invest in a solar panel for charging

Bill

That's been the problem, there isn't any way to plug the motorhome in while in storage. This year we couldn't even get there to start every couple of months, hence our dilemma. We are just trying to get it started so we can get it to a place to check out the batteries. I doubt I can get the batteries out even if I could disconnect, the storage unit is very narrow.

Thank you.
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