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Title: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on December 23, 2016, 08:07:29 AM
Took my 2011 Winnebago Access Premier 31JP out getting it ready for a trip.
Went to extend driver side slide but it stopped after a few inches. Panel was showing 5 red and 2 green light codes.
I over rode the panel as instructed and retracted the slide. Panel is now flashing fault.
Any ideas or do I need to take it to a shop?   Thanks


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Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: Kevin Means on December 23, 2016, 11:57:36 AM
RE: PowerGear slides... A 5-Flash followed by a 1 or 2-Flash is usually caused by low batteries, so the first thing you should do is make sure your batteries are healthy and fully charged. Our 2011 coach requires the engine to be idling while the slides are being operated - the owners manual specifically says not to operate the slides on battery power alone. Yours may be different. It sounds like you've already pushed the little "Reset" button on the circiut board - id f so, do this...

1. Turn the chassis battery disconnect switch off for at least 30 seconds, then back on
2. Start the RV's engine
3.Try deploying the slide again.

Kev
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: Raylc on December 23, 2016, 07:26:00 PM
Kev is right the coach must be running to keep the battery charged during operating the slides.
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on December 27, 2016, 07:53:53 AM
Thanks guys, The coach was running when I tried it. I did what you suggested shutting the batteries of then on. I wondering if the coach batteries are just spent.....That's my next move. I had the coach batteries turned off and it was very cold prior to turning them on again.
I'll let you know what I find out....Thanks again!!
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on December 27, 2016, 08:37:02 AM
If your batteries are original, they are at or near end-of-life.
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on December 29, 2016, 04:24:08 PM
Yep, They are the original. Picking up two new ones tomorrow.  Hopefully this is the problem.
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: RedandSilver on December 29, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
RE: PowerGear slides... A 5-Flash followed by a 1 or 2-Flash is usually caused by low batteries, so the first thing you should do is make sure your batteries are healthy and fully charged. Our 2011 coach requires the engine to be idling while the slides are being operated - the owners manual specifically says not to operate the slides on battery power alone. Yours may be different. It sounds like you've already pushed the little "Reset" button on the circiut board - id f so, do this...

1. Turn the chassis battery disconnect switch off for at least 30 seconds, then back on
2. Start the RV's engine
3.Try deploying the slide again.

Kev


Well they must make units different for a lot of vehicles.

On my MH, I have to dump the air (at least some) before I can extend the jacks to get it level -
which is what it's supposed to be, before the slides are extended.
When the engine is started the air bags fill up and raise the vehicle back up, which is likely to take it out of level.

So I always (so far) lower the jacks to level the coach and then extend or retract the slides, only with the
key in the Accessories position and the engine off.

I assume the 2011 Winnies work differently and the air bags don't automatically fill when the engine is started. 
Is there a switch to raise the coach and that is why you can run the engine for power while the slides go in or out?
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: Kevin Means on December 30, 2016, 04:27:26 AM

Well they must make units different for a lot of vehicles.

I assume the 2011 Winnies work differently and the air bags don't automatically fill when the engine is started. 
Is there a switch to raise the coach and that is why you can run the engine for power while the slides go in or out?
That's correct - different manufacturers have used different safety interlocks and procedures for deploying jacks and slides over the years.

Our air bags DO inflate when the engine is started, however when leveling the coach, our HWH leveling system gives us different options. When the engine is idling, we can manually lower the jacks and leave the air bags inflated, which leaves the coach sitting pretty high, or we can use the Auto-Level feature. The first thing that happens when you push the Auto-Level button is, all the air is dumped out of the air bags - even while the engine is idling. Then the jacks are lowered and the coach auto-levels. That's what we do 99% of the time. So yes, our engine can be running while our air bags are deflated.

Kev
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on December 30, 2016, 04:01:31 PM
Nope, no levelers on this one.

As I suspected the two batteries were original and both were shot.
I put two new ones in today, the 5 red and 2 green code flashes stopped.......but
I now have 1 red flash and 1 green flash alternating.

I hit the reset button for 5 seconds, no luck.
I shut the coach batteries off for a little while, no luck.

It was getting cold so I just skimmed over the manual again, it mentions that the "stops" have to be reprogrammed.
Getting dark so playing around with slides has to wait for another day.

If anyone knows what the 1 red and 1 green light flashes mean, please let me know.

Wishing you all a Happy and safe New Year !!
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on December 31, 2016, 06:43:24 AM
Sounds like you're making progress. You only have one chassis and one house battery?
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on December 31, 2016, 08:53:43 AM
Two "house" batteries", one chassis.
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on December 31, 2016, 12:00:43 PM
So you replaced your two house batteries?
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 02, 2017, 08:15:21 AM
Yes, thought about the engine battery but is starts right up

Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on January 02, 2017, 08:23:37 AM
You should have replaced the chassis battery as well. When it fails, it will be a sudden event with probably no or little warning. As the lead plates age and go through charge/discharge cycles they will sluff off lead which will accumulate on the bottom. Once the lead detritus reaches the bottom of the plates, it will short them out.
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 02, 2017, 09:30:02 PM
I'll check that out, not sure if it's been replaced yet or not
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 530ktm on January 05, 2017, 05:11:41 PM
Any updates to what happened with the green and red flashes? 
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 06, 2017, 09:58:00 AM
Had coach batteries off for a few days, turned back on and still getting one red flash, then one green flash. Tried to reset but still the same. Tried with engine running, nothing changed. The weather is not great right now to experiment. I have an appointment next week. I don't want to screw anything up. I'm hoping it's just some "reset procedure".
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 11, 2017, 11:54:06 AM
UPDATE   RV service said rear motor was bad and needs replaced.

Don't have any estimate as they haven't checked on part price yet. I thought that was unusual.
Part # listed on service sheet is #1510000042 and comes up on ebay.
Other numbers with no explanation are B01D06286 and S#10A0002

Anyone have any idea on what changing a motor out might cost?
Any ideas on the other numbers listed?

Also, their diagnostic charge was $130.00 which seem a bit high.




Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on January 11, 2017, 12:32:38 PM
Probably most shops have a minimum diagnostic charge - looks like their charge is for an hour of labor. How easy is it to access the motor? If easy, probably one hour of labor. If difficult, who knows.

You say you found the part number on eBay - what was their price?
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 11, 2017, 12:36:18 PM
If its the right one, $350
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 12, 2017, 08:41:38 AM
I found it.  The right one is around $700. Part # 1010002069

I posted in the Tech Section asking about a do it yourself install.
Looks like 4 bolts and that's it. Not sure about the motor brake or what to do if anything with it.
Just trying to save some costs on labor.

Any idea's on installation?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on January 12, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
No words of wisdom but best of luck!
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: 2011winnie on January 26, 2017, 04:37:28 PM
UPDATE   
 The shop that diagnosed the problem as a motor wanted $900 for a new motor plus 1-1/2hrs labor.

I had been to the Pittsburgh RV show and saw that Butler RV Sales in Butler, PA was a new Winnebago dealer. I was able to order the motor from them for $700 and decided just to have them install it.

I gave them the diagnostic work sheet explaining the problem as a bad motor from the original shop. They noticed the two flashing lights I described and called the company rep who said it just needed reset. The motor was fine, no problems at all with it. Bingo, a simple reset problem.

The downside was that I had to either keep the motor or send it back with a restocking fee. Much less than the cost of the motor.

If not for the heads up service department at Butler RV Sales, I may have paid over $1,200.00 for something I didn't need and who knows what else. I'm so disappointed in the original shop and intend to let them know.
           
Title: Re: Slide out codes
Post by: John Canfield on January 27, 2017, 06:28:33 AM
You came out pretty well considering the situation. Your first servicing dealer was either incompetent or (I hope not) trying to sell you service and a part you didn't need. Thanks for checking in with the resolution.