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Title: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 02, 2017, 08:33:23 PM
No, not the drug, never used the stuff. This is a video of me playing my bass ukulele to the Beatles Lucy In The Sky With Diamond (erroneously thought to be about LSD). Too many mistakes to count but fun to play.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_vZF6_ChElTN1hGUmZwMzJhLXc/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Rene T on May 02, 2017, 08:55:06 PM
I got this error at the top of the video screen.

"This video contains content from UMG_MK, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds".
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 02, 2017, 11:35:59 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Journey on May 02, 2017, 11:52:05 PM
 Me 3
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Arch Hoagland on May 02, 2017, 11:57:52 PM
Well, I guess you're going to have to do it over again.  It's been blocked.   
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 04:47:30 AM
Well, I guess you're going to have to do it over again.  It's been blocked.
Yes I will redo today it only faster. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Bill N on May 03, 2017, 10:13:57 AM
Must have been X rated huh?
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 10:19:45 AM
Must have been X rated huh?
No, YouTube does not allow copyrighted material on their site. Every video that is uploaded gets run through a program that checks for copyrighted material. It uses the same algorithms that are used by music identifying programs. If it is on the list of banned songs then it can't be played on YouTube. It plays on my computer by no one else's unless you live in a foreign country that doesn't recognise US copyrights.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Sloop on May 03, 2017, 10:23:09 AM
UMG is "Universal Music Group".  They monitor YouTube for copyright infringement and automatically block anyone who try's to post a Beatle Song.  Rename it to something else.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 11:01:38 AM
UMG is "Universal Music Group".  They monitor YouTube for copyright infringement and automatically block anyone who try's to post a Beatle Song.  Rename it to something else.
I don't think that would work. They are using song identification software. The notice was posted the minute I uploaded the video. I thought that since it was still there and I could see it that they were no longer blocking it.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: kdbgoat on May 03, 2017, 11:09:27 AM
Tom, do you think you could get away with posting the video on your Google acct like a photo?
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 11:54:05 AM
Tom, do you think you could get away with posting the video on your Google acct like a photo?
I will give it a try, thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 12:16:48 PM
OK I uploaded it to Google Drive. Someone please let me know if this works.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_vZF6_ChElTN1hGUmZwMzJhLXc/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
OK I uploaded it to Google Drive. Someone please let me know if this works.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_vZF6_ChElTN1hGUmZwMzJhLXc/view?usp=sharing

Ok, this should work. I logged onto my Chromebook on a different account and the video in the first post gave me the error message. This like worked.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: RedandSilver on May 03, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
Yup that worked.

Nice job.

Only thing that might have made it better was if your instrument had a pickup in it.  OR just play it louder.   ;D
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2017, 12:41:46 PM
One of the guys in our ukulele band plays a U-bass, alternately with his gut bucket. He plays both through a standalone amp. He has a tough time getting the volume right when playing the U-bass. On the occasions he sits on 'my end' of the band, I threaten to cut the cable to his amp, although he's actually right on the beat  :(

I looked at the U-bass when we visited the Kala factory in Petaluma a few months ago, but just couldn't get into it. Those "rubbery" strings just felt strange, but I guess they feel 'normal' to U-bass and bass guitar players.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 12:49:19 PM
Yup that worked.

Nice job.

Only thing that might have made it better was if your instrument had a pickup in it.  OR just play it louder.   ;D
Thanks. The bass does have a pickup in it. Without the pickup it is almost inaudible. I recorded this with my cell phone so there isn't a lot of bass being picked up. I have a few more songs I want to record and I will try it with the bass turned up louder.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 12:52:08 PM
I looked at the U-bass when we visited the Kala factory in Petaluma a few months ago, but just couldn't get into it. Those "rubbery" strings just felt strange, but I guess they feel 'normal' to U-bass and bass guitar players.
Those rubbery strings felt really weird the first time I played it. That feeling passed after about five minutes and now it just feels normal. A regular bass guitar also feels weird for the first few minutes. One of the hallmarks of being a good string player is being able to adapt to any fret length, any string diameter or any string type with ease. Takes a few years to get there.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: kdbgoat on May 03, 2017, 01:01:21 PM
Good stuff there Tom! I do have a question though, what's that bass on the wall with the sideways pickup?
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2017, 01:18:53 PM
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One of the hallmarks of being a good string player is being able to adapt to any fret length, any string diameter or any string type with ease.

Aye, and I guess I'm just not a "good" string player, although I play 3 sizes of ukulele (2 different tunings), a banjo uke, a plectrum uke, a guitar and a 3/4 size guitar, just not very well  :-[   I also play very few tunes without a lead sheet; My ears tell me chord changes are coming, but I have no clue what they are, although I immediately know if I hit a correct or incorrect chord  ;D   

Strangely, I don't need song sheets to sing, although everyone in the band was surprised when I recently stood up to sing a solo (one we've performed numerous times), and announced "I couldn't tell you first line of this song, but I start singing and it just comes out". Our music director is the opposite - he can play virtually anything on numerous instruments by ear, but I hear him singing incorrect lyrics if he's not reading from a song sheet. He has some theory about left and right brain functions.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 01:21:26 PM
Good stuff there Tom! I do have a question though, what's that bass on the wall with the sideways pickup?
Thanks. That is not a pickup, it is a switch. It is the guitar that comes with the Beatles Rock Band game. When you strum you flip the switch with your right hand and push one of the buttons on the neck with your left hand.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: kdbgoat on May 03, 2017, 01:29:01 PM
Cool! As you can tell, I'm not a gamer. It did have me pretty confused though, especially when I didn't see any strings either.
 I'm glad posting on Google worked for you.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 03, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
Aye, and I guess I'm just not a "good" string player, although I play 3 sizes of ukulele (2 different tunings), a banjo uke, a plectrum uke, a guitar and a 3/4 size guitar, just not very well  :-[   I also play very few tunes without a lead sheet; My ears tell me chord changes are coming, but I have no clue what they are, although I immediately know if I hit a correct or incorrect chord  ;D   
I don't consider myself a good string player either, just adequate. The good string players all spent their teenage years locked in their bedroom "woodshedding". Woodshedding is the act of locking yourself away and playing continuously until you had the instrument mastered. They became great guitarists but ended up with poor social skills and usually were not very good people on a personal level.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2017, 02:40:32 PM
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The good string players all spent their teenage years locked in their bedroom ...

That's what I always tell folks about good instrument players. When I was growing up, I'd knock on someone's door on Saturday morning and ask "is Johnnie (or Bill, or Fred) coming out?" Their respective Mom would always say "sorry, he's practicing piano all day today".

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Woodshedding is the act of locking yourself away and playing continuously until you had the instrument mastered.

It has a different connotation in the Barbershop world; They use the term to refer to spontaneous informal vocal harmonizing by several singers of different parts. But I can see how it can be used in different contexts.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Arch Hoagland on May 04, 2017, 12:44:09 AM
Worked great for me now. I noticed the cat wasn't too impressed and left shortly after you started playing.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 04, 2017, 02:53:05 AM
The cat wanted to be the star of the show. :o
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Rene T on May 04, 2017, 08:15:19 AM
When I was growing up, I'd knock on someone's door on Saturday morning and ask "is Johnnie (or Bill, or Fred) coming out?" Their respective Mom would always say "sorry, he's practicing piano all day today".

You didn't get the hint as far as the real reason the mom said they couldn't come out.   :o ::) ;D :D  Read between the lines Tom. Who practices all day on a Saturday. Come on.  ;)
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2017, 08:49:32 AM
LOL Rene. I could usually hear them laboriously playing scales or playing through some sheet music. These are the kids who grew up to be 'naturally good' musicians who, unlike me, don't need to look at their keyboard or count out the notes.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2017, 01:51:09 PM
Tom S, just curious - how is that bass uke tuned? Is it EADG?
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Found the answer for Kala 4- and 5-string U-bass:

https://kalabrand.com/apps/help-center#!how-is-the-u-bass-tuned
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 04, 2017, 02:04:06 PM
Tom S, just curious - how is that bass uke tuned? Is it EADG?
Yep, exactly like a normal bass or the bottom four strings of a regular guitar. Makes it very easy to learn.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
Thanks. My baritone uke is tuned like the upper 4 strings on a guitar (DGBE). With my other ukes tuned GCEA, my plectrum banjo tuned CBGD and my guitars tuned EADGBE, this would be a real mind bender. I rely on muscle memory but if, for example, I've been playing a guitar most of the week, I occasionally find myself playing 'wrong' chords when I get to weekly ukulele practice  :-[ I need to quit playing guitar a week before our upcoming uke concert.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 04, 2017, 02:36:07 PM
When I am at a meetup and they are playing a song I am not familiar with I get thrown when the sheet music only lists the chord name and not the picture. When it says D often times I play a G instead. No one else can hear I am wrong so it doesn't bother me. I have made a zillion mistakes on stage so I am used to it.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2017, 06:56:45 PM
Few lead sheets I use, whether they belong to the band, my own arrangements, or ones shared by others at a meet, have chord diagrams. The only time we've used them is when there's a chord or two that band members have not seen or learned.

Funnily enough, I need to sing to be able to play. In the cases where, for example, our MD greys out lyrics on an instrument breakout, I add the lyrics back so I can at least sing to myself; Then I can play the tune.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 04, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
What is really bad is when there is both the chord name and diagram and I still get it wrong. However I was listening to some Beatles live songs this afternoon and it is amazing how many mistakes they made. Of course no monitors and screaming fans makes playing even more difficult. John was so bad at remembering lyrics, especially in 1965 right after they discovered pot.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
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John was so bad at remembering lyrics, especially in 1965 right after they discovered pot.

That's funny  ;D
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 04, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
The funny thing is he was always bad at remembering lyrics. Some of the early songs have some lyrical errors. But in 1965 he got really bad at remembering lyrics and I did not put two and two together until recently. Especially Help. He never even came close to getting it right. Then on the rooftop concert in the film Let It Be he had a guy holding up lyrics printed out for him. He was wearing his glasses for the concert so he could see the lyrics.
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: hoddinron on May 04, 2017, 09:44:10 PM
Thank you for posting that Tom.

Enjoyed it.  And I learned something about the Beatles and John Lennon.  He could write lyrics, just couldn't remember them when performing!

Ron
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 05, 2017, 04:07:39 AM
Thank you for posting that Tom.

Enjoyed it.  And I learned something about the Beatles and John Lennon.  He could write lyrics, just couldn't remember them when performing!

Ron
Thanks Ron. Here is a typical Lennon performance in 1965. He only screws up the lyrics twice in one song.

https://youtu.be/yWP6Qki8mWc
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: Tom on May 05, 2017, 07:21:40 AM
Interesting. I wonder how many folks in the audience caught his goofs, or even cared. I suspect that many were screaming too loud to even hear. I suppose that, if you're a Beatle, you can get away with a lot of this stuff.


At one of our concerts, one of the guitarists had a vocal solo, backed by the band, and he forgot the lyrics to one of the verses. I immediately realized and started singing. I wasn't mic'd, but my booming voice carried, and the entire band joined in singing the song. The soloist kept playing his guitar. I have no idea how it sounded to the audience, but they enthusiastically applauded at the end. Maybe they were being polite, but nobody boo'd  ;D
Title: Re: Seilerbird on LSD
Post by: SeilerBird on May 05, 2017, 07:42:07 AM
Interesting. I wonder how many folks in the audience caught his goofs, or even cared. I suspect that many were screaming too loud to even hear. I suppose that, if you're a Beatle, you can get away with a lot of this stuff.
I saw them live twice, in 1965 at the Hollywood Bowl and in 1966 at Dodger Stadium. If a jet plane would have flown low over the stadium I doubt it would have been heard. They did do Help at the Hollywood Bowl. What I remember the most about the Hollywood Bowl was before the concert began Neil Aspinall, the Beatles roadie, came out on stage and sat at the drums and tapped a few as a sound check. The audience booed him for daring to sit at Ringo's drums. Of course he was the guy who set the drums up.