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Title: Batteries too heavy
Post by: whokares2 on October 01, 2017, 05:37:46 AM
I was going to remove the house batteries  from my 1995 Southwind for the winter but WHEW, mounted behind the front bumper this 65 year old cannot lift them out of the compartment.  Heck, I can't pick them up 1 inch to move them out of the battery tray!  I topped off the water, cleaned the connections, fabricated new hold downs and called it a day.  How do you young fellows get them out??
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: kjansen on October 01, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
Get a young fellow to do it, you know someone that's 59.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: whokares2 on October 01, 2017, 06:39:57 AM
I Don't think I could have lifted them at 59 and I worked on Semis all my life!
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: John From Detroit on October 01, 2017, 07:04:01 AM
I drove the RV to the battery store and the 20-something assistant to the owner lifted the new ones in,

I was able to get the old ones out but the new ones were heavier.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: whokares2 on October 01, 2017, 07:44:49 AM
I take it no one removed them for the winter.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: GeorgeandTheBear on October 01, 2017, 08:26:08 AM
Get a young fellow to do it, you know someone that's 59.
That's funny. I'm 59 and not sure I agree with the "young fellow" part.  :(
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Larry N. on October 01, 2017, 08:46:13 AM
I was going to remove the house batteries  from my 1995 Southwind for the winter but WHEW, mounted behind the front bumper this 65 year old cannot lift them out of the compartment.  Heck, I can't pick them up 1 inch to move them out of the battery tray!  I topped off the water, cleaned the connections, fabricated new hold downs and called it a day.  How do you young fellows get them out??

If you can keep a trickle charger going and be sure they have water, you can leave them in the coach. I've had no problem over many winters, some down to -20F for a day or three. I managed to lift a battery out of the Beaver I had (12V deep cycle, huge and heavy), but my forearms were sore for over a month after that, so never again, if I can help it.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Sprucegum on October 01, 2017, 08:51:52 AM
I also thought about lifting mine and decided to lift the cable off the post instead - just to be sure there is no power drain.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: JSplaine on October 01, 2017, 09:00:45 AM
I also don't remove house and or start batteries. Make sure battery switches are in off position, batteries full of water and clean. If you don't have charger plugged in, start generator once a month and charge all batteries.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Gary RV_Wizard on October 01, 2017, 10:47:37 AM
Removing them for the winter is a wise idea if you cannot provide for a trickle charge some how. Or an occasional (2-4 weeks) charge from genset or alternator. Coaches that have the batteries up front are indeed a pain, awkward for anybody to lift batteries in & out. You may need to hire a younger fellow with good upper body strength and a strong back!
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Mile High on October 01, 2017, 01:05:08 PM
It took me most the day to get 1,200 lbs of batteries replaced in my coach, so they are staying put for the winter :)  I'll just have to charge them monthly.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Lou Schneider on October 01, 2017, 05:08:48 PM
I made a winch and derrick to lift my 4D house battery out through the front hood of my motorhome.  A half dozen 2x4x10' made a saw horse 8 ft.tall across the front of the motorhome and a come-along went down to a sling around the battery.  If I didn't have the come-along a couple of loops of rope around a pair of pulleys would have worked about as well.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: garyb1st on October 01, 2017, 07:27:36 PM
It took me most the day to get 1,200 lbs of batteries replaced in my coach, so they are staying put for the winter :)  I'll just have to charge them monthly.

1200 lbs?  What do you have, an electric motorhome.   ;)
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: rls7201 on October 01, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
I was going to remove the house batteries  from my 1995 Southwind for the winter but WHEW, mounted behind the front bumper this 65 year old cannot lift them out of the compartment.  Heck, I can't pick them up 1 inch to move them out of the battery tray!  I topped off the water, cleaned the connections, fabricated new hold downs and called it a day.  How do you young fellows get them out??

Us young fellows just lift those 64# batteries up and out. But I'm only 74

Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: reniram on October 01, 2017, 08:25:33 PM
You can buy a simple strap that very cleverly self locks onto the battery posts once you have removed the cables..then it is a simple matter of just lifting the strap up and out.....Install in the reverse order...I just did this last fall to install a sheet of thin plywood in the battery carrier for the batteries to sit on.   Bear in mind, the batteries still weigh the same!...yes they are heavy
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Just Lou on October 01, 2017, 09:13:25 PM
On my '97 Bounder my batteries are also mounted behind the grill work.  They are positioned left and right of center,  I used a shop jack to lift each battery up into that center area from the bottom, and then slid them off the jack into position in their respective trays.  The old ones were removed the same way.

Note:
I did use my Dremel to remove a few rivets (and replaced them with stainless screws) to make my grill removable so I could work with the cables in the area from the front rather than down from the top.

I'm 79, so I've had to work smarter, rather than harder, for some time. ;)
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Lou Schneider on October 01, 2017, 11:30:55 PM
Us young fellows just lift those 64# batteries up and out. But I'm only 74

My 4D battery weighs 110 lbs.  The 8D AGM that's replacing it weighs 130 lbs.

Still want to dead lift them in and out?   ;)
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: garyb1st on October 02, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
I'm 79, so I've had to work smarter, rather than harder, for some time. ;)

Working smarter is good.  Exercise is good.  For people mechanically challenged like me, working smarter some times makes the problem worse.   :-[ 
At 74 I'm no where near as strong as I was 10 years ago.  But I can still lift a 50-60 lb battery if necessary.  Suggest anyone having difficulty moving a standard battery start a strength training program.  It's only going to get harder. 
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: whokares2 on October 02, 2017, 08:10:10 PM
Garyb,  I have been changing semi tires for the last 36 years, I am not weak.  The position of my batteries (well over 50 pounds), make it difficult even for me to lift over three feet over my grill.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Just Lou on October 02, 2017, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: garyb1st

At 74 I'm no where near as strong as I was 10 years ago.  But I can still lift a 50-60 lb battery if necessary.  Suggest anyone having difficulty moving a standard battery start a strength training program.
Try lifting that 60lb battery to chin level, extending it out to arms length (through a 12" high opening), lowering it to waist level behind the grill and positioning it to the left or right onto a battery tray/shelf.  I seriously doubt that one-in-ten people can do it at 47 much less 74.  I have no intention of starting any kind of exercise program at 79.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: garyb1st on October 02, 2017, 10:52:34 PM
Try lifting that 60lb battery to chin level, extending it out to arms length (through a 12" high opening), lowering it to waist level behind the grill and positioning it to the left or right onto a battery tray/shelf.  I seriously doubt that one-in-ten people can do it at 47 much less 74.  I have no intention of starting any kind of exercise program at 79.

Whokares2 and Lou, totally agree   Missed that minor consideration.    :-[ 
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: rls7201 on October 03, 2017, 08:44:10 PM
My 4D battery weighs 110 lbs.  The 8D AGM that's replacing it weighs 130 lbs.

Still want to dead lift them in and out?   ;)

Sure why not? I'll give it a try. I throw my 110# Segways in the trunk of the car all the time.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Larry N. on October 04, 2017, 08:24:35 AM
Working smarter is good.  Exercise is good.  For people mechanically challenged like me, working smarter some times makes the problem worse.   :-[ 
At 74 I'm no where near as strong as I was 10 years ago.  But I can still lift a 50-60 lb battery if necessary.  Suggest anyone having difficulty moving a standard battery start a strength training program.  It's only going to get harder.
What's a standard battery? All six batteries in my Beaver were well over 100 lbs each. You're probably thinking of the 6V batteries, which are half the weight, but (as Lou indicates) even those can be tough when in certain positions.
Title: Re: Batteries too heavy
Post by: Mile High on October 05, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
1200 lbs?  What do you have, an electric motorhome.   ;)
Boy I botched that math didn't I!  Not sure why I was thinking 200 lbs each.  They are closer to 75 lbs.