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Title: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 29, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
As of Wednesday November 1st,   there is a new 12 cent a gallon tax on gasoline... and a 16 cent tax on diesel fuel.

This is the first of 3 tax increases for a total of 62 cents a gallon.

Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Tom on October 29, 2017, 07:28:27 PM
And our roads will benefit  ???   I seem to recall similar gas tax increases and promised road improvements in the 80's; Or am I hallucinating?
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: RedandSilver on October 29, 2017, 07:29:44 PM
I'm glad I'm not in CA.

Our taxes went up Jan 1 of this year like 18-20 cents per gallon - claiming it was for road repairs - which
I haven't seen much of any so far. 

Maybe it's their way of making sure electric cars happen sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 29, 2017, 08:01:44 PM
I'm sure part of the tax revenue will be used for the administrative costs of a new committee that insures the money gets spent properly.   

Just look how the state lottery has helped our schools to become so much better..... ???
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: SargeW on October 29, 2017, 08:17:31 PM
What a joke. That's Jerry Brown taking care of ya.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 29, 2017, 08:27:28 PM
Not to worry...That money will be added into our California State general fund.

That way it stays safe until it can be used to improve our highways...and the interest earned will help CALPERS stay funded for a while longer.


(...and poof! ..it's all gone. )
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Arch Hoagland on October 29, 2017, 09:32:10 PM
Years ago when Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor he said he was going to fix highway 99 from Bakersfield to Sacramento. And he did. It is pretty much completed now and in pretty good shape.

We've traveled the length of it this past few months and, with the exception of a few small sections that are being worked on, I'm happy with it.

 
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Post by: lynnmor on October 29, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
OH NO!  We in PA were number 1 in fuel taxes, does this mean we will fall to second place?

Our taxes are slated to rise every year for the foreseeable future, so we might regain the lead.

I bought just 1/2 tank in PA since the big increase last January, and I plan to buy as much of everything out of state for years to come.  PA, you’re fired.
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Post by: Roy M on October 29, 2017, 09:53:54 PM
Darn you CA, BC is apparently following suit. I paid $1.21.9/l tonight for diesel. :'(
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Isaac-1 on October 29, 2017, 10:02:41 PM
I paid $2.22 per gallon earlier today for gasoline in Louisiana
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 30, 2017, 12:53:55 AM
regular gas around me is $2.70 gal.      after Nov. 1st  .. it'll be near $2.85 a gallon.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: halfwright on October 30, 2017, 01:10:14 AM
I truly wish that such a beautiful state did not have so many problems and detractors. We have made two trips through the state and worked for our site for five months. But, we probably won't go back. And, I will miss it.
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Post by: Oldgator73 on October 30, 2017, 07:24:59 AM
Gas prices in Delaware have been all over the place. Some days $2.35. The next day down to $2.19 and then back up to $2.22. Sure, we may have cheaper gas in Delaware but then again you have to live in Delaware to really enjoy it. We don't have a sales tax so it is not uncommon to see vehicles from PA, MD, NJ at Costco, Sam's and other shooting centers. I think the only advantage to living here is maybe some cheaper gas and no sales tax.
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Post by: kdbgoat on October 30, 2017, 07:47:39 AM
I think the only advantage to living here is maybe some cheaper gas and no sales tax.

^X2^
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Irover on October 30, 2017, 09:33:31 AM
 >:( I'm in mid tennessee and the price of diesel rose $.04 over the weekend to $2.68.9. Before the hurricanes it was $2.16.9 ::) I guess were paying for California too!  :-[ The price of groceries will follow, then clothes, hard goods and anything else trucked in I imagine.

So there goes the big 2% increase in my SS and pension check!! You never come out ahead of the Federal and State governments! But heck were FREE! LOL!
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: JoelP on October 30, 2017, 09:36:08 AM
As of Wednesday November 1st,   there is a new 12 cent a gallon tax on gasoline... and a 16 cent tax on diesel fuel.

This is the first of 3 tax increases for a total of 62 cents a gallon.

Thanks for the reminder.  I had totally forgotten about this. Sure hope to see some of the road repairs from this tax that are well overdue.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Oldgator73 on October 30, 2017, 10:12:05 AM
>:( I'm in mid tennessee and the price of diesel rose $.04 over the weekend to $2.68.9. Before the hurricanes it was $2.16.9 ::) I guess were paying for California too!  :-[ The price of groceries will follow, then clothes, hard goods and anything else trucked in I imagine.

So there goes the big 2% increase in my SS and pension check!! You never come out ahead of the Federal and State governments! But heck were FREE! LOL!

Where in Mid Tennessee are you? We spent 6 months in Smithville when I was working for a gas pipeline inspection company. We were across the street from a state park. Enjoyed Tennessee but not so much Smithville.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: garyb1st on October 30, 2017, 12:11:17 PM
This is the first of 3 tax increases for a total of 62 cents a gallon.

Can't find anything that supports a 62 cents a gallon increase.   Are you saying the total tax will increase to 62 cents or increase by 62 cents. 

An increased registration fee takes place on January 1, 2018.  It will be based on vehicle value and range from $25.00 a year for vehicles valued less than $5,000 to $175.00 a year for vehicles valued at $60,000 and more.

Personally I think we should do what London does and tax vehicles for driving into the city.   Only in our case, we should tax certain out-of-state drivers who drive into California.  However, only those certain drivers who bad mouth the State every time they can.   
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Oldgator73 on October 30, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Personally I think we should do what London does and tax vehicles for driving into the city.   

We lived in Cambridge UK for several years and for some odd reason on a few occasions I drove into London. You could go online and register your plate number and upon returning home go back online and pay the fee. Problem the system never worked. I called their office and was told if there was no fee attached to my plate number not to worry about it.
There are places I would pay to drive to in California, like the Redwood Forest. One of the most beautiful places on earth.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 30, 2017, 04:00:42 PM
Californians are bracing for the first phase of the SB-1 gas tax and vehicle registration hikes, which could help boost prices by up to 29 cents per gallon over the next 32 months.

SB-1 will begin with a 12 cent per gallon tax increase on November 1. That works out to a brutal annual cost of about $1,200 per California family. But the full increase will not initially be felt, because Nov. 1 is also the date the  seasonal surcharge for California’s reformulated gasoline summer blend, which amounts to several extra cents per gallon, rolls off.

Moreover, SB-1’s total family pain may be much higher than 12 cents, over time, thanks to the following deadlines: 1) a value-based transportation improvement registration fee kicks in January 1, 2018; 2) the price-based excise tax resets on July 1, 2019; and 3) a new zero emissions vehicle fee begins on July 1, 2020.


SB1 was estimated to have the same financial impact as a 62 cent a gallon tax.


A one party government gets expensive.

Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Wendy Lou on October 30, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Can't find anything that supports a 62 cents a gallon increase.   Are you saying the total tax will increase to 62 cents or increase by 62 cents. 

An increased registration fee takes place on January 1, 2018.  It will be based on vehicle value and range from $25.00 a year for vehicles valued less than $5,000 to $175.00 a year for vehicles valued at $60,000 and more.

Personally I think we should do what London does and tax vehicles for driving into the city.   Only in our case, we should tax certain out-of-state drivers who drive into California.  However, only those certain drivers who bad mouth the State every time they can.   
I just received my Cali DMV renewal that's  due Jan 8th.  2003 CRV $196.  It would have been about $110 prior.  That's just shy of 80% increase.  Not looking forward to motorhome renewal time.  And that's every year!  Darn it, I love where I live, but no chance of my income increasing I may need to consider moving in the future.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Oldgator73 on October 30, 2017, 05:42:57 PM
I just received my Cali DMV renewal that's  due Jan 8th.  2003 CRV $196.  It would have been about $110 prior.  That's just shy of 80% increase.  Not looking forward to motorhome renewal time.  And that's every year!  Darn it, I love where I live, but no chance of my income increasing I may need to consider moving in the future.
You can move to Delaware. No sales taxes. Vehicle registration is cheap. Gas is relatively cheap. Beaches suck. All the waterways are pretty much just mud. You have San Diego, San Francisco, the Redwood Forest, Monterey, the mountains in the morning and the beach in the afternoon. If our grandkids weren't here we would like to try there. We'll pay a bit more in taxes to live somewhere beautiful.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Paul & Ann on October 30, 2017, 05:45:25 PM


SB-1 will begin with a 12 cent per gallon tax increase on November 1. That works out to a brutal annual cost of about $1,200 per California family.
 

Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Oldgator73 on October 30, 2017, 06:19:17 PM
Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?


I think most of that cost is due to sitting in traffic.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 30, 2017, 06:22:12 PM
Local news said the estimate of all the new fuel taxes and registration fees will be aprox $1200 per family.  a  family can spend $4200 per year for each car   . most families have 2+ cars

I know many people with 4 vehicles. 

It's the registration fees.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Paul & Ann on October 30, 2017, 06:27:50 PM
Quote from: Paul & Ann on Today at 05:45:25 PM
Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?


I think most of that cost is due to sitting in traffic.

So 10,000 gallons @~ $4.00 per gallon means that the average California driver is  spending about $40.000 per year on gasoline?  I doubt that to be true.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: garyb1st on October 30, 2017, 06:40:55 PM
Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?

It's the new math.  Kinda like when Ben Carson, former brain surgeon turned HUD financial sleuth found a bunch of errors totaling $500 Billion.  Not a small feat considering the overall budget is less than $50 Billion. 
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 30, 2017, 06:46:40 PM
Where will the money go?

Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Program – $3.24 billion a year on average: Off the top, the program allocates several hundred million dollars to various endeavors:

▪ $400 million to maintain and repair state bridges and culverts

▪ $200 million for Sacramento and 23 other counties with local transportation taxes

$100 million to increase the number of trips by bike and on foot

▪ $25 million for the freeway service patrol program

▪ $25 million for sustainable communities planning grants to local governments

▪ $7 million total for transportation-related research and education at UC ($5 million) and CSU ($2 million)

▪ $5 million in workforce development grants to local agencies

Of the roughly $2.48 billion remaining, half would go to Caltrans for state highway maintenance and rehabilitation. The other half would go to cities and counties for road maintenance and repair projects and railroad grade separations. It also pays for an emphasis on “complete streets” that are safer for walkers and bikers, capture stormwater, and include other features.
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Post by: whiteva on October 30, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
Must be that NEW math!
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 30, 2017, 06:54:29 PM
I was wrong.

 I just found this quote in the LA Times..."Brown said the taxes and fees will cost most Californians less than $10 per month".

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-gas-tax-signing-20170428-story.html


whew ...had me scared for a minute. 
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Oldgator73 on October 30, 2017, 06:58:49 PM
I was wrong.  I just found this quote in the LA Times..."Brown said the taxes and fees will cost most Californians less than $10 per month".

Proud of you Tony. Takes a big man to say you are wrong
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Mauleman on October 30, 2017, 07:31:46 PM
I was wrong.

 I just found this quote in the LA Times..."Brown said the taxes and fees will cost most Californians less than $10 per month".

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-gas-tax-signing-20170428-story.html


whew ...had me scared for a minute.
    You actually believe Jerry Brown???????
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on October 30, 2017, 07:40:38 PM
Jerry has already been our governor for 4 terms,  after all those years as a well respected Democratic leader of one of the largest states in our nation,   

I wouldn't be surprised if he runs for the White House.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Mauleman on November 01, 2017, 07:22:09 PM
Jerry has already been our governor for 4 terms,  after all those years as a well respected Democratic leader of one of the largest states in our nation,   

I wouldn't be surprised if he runs for the White House.
   god help us
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Post by: Sun2Retire on November 01, 2017, 07:51:45 PM
We're talking about gas prices here folks...
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Post by: Willandgiselarv on November 01, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
It's time for brown to retire.
I truly believe politicians should have term limits.
Another smart move is sanctuary state...
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Tom on November 01, 2017, 07:57:46 PM
Thanks for the reminder Scott. Folks, please remember our forum rules re political discussions. We've reminded our forum members numerous times, but here are our rules (http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?action=Rules), also visible by scrolling over the About button in the menu above and scrolling down.

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Post by: garyb1st on November 01, 2017, 08:27:12 PM
Got my renewal for the motorhome registration.  Based on what the previous owner paid, we're up about $100.00.  That's what I was expecting.  Should be about the same on the Jeep.  Maybe $25.00 on the old Infiniti.  So $225.00 total increase for vehicle registration.   Another $120 in increased gas prices based on 15,000 combined miles.  Total increase, $345.  That's $28.75 a month.  A bit more than the $10.00 a month that was mentioned.  But then, maybe the $10.00 per month is an average for everyone in the State.  ;)   If so, a family of four would on average pay another $40.00 a month.  That's a tougher sell than $10.00 a month.  I'm good with the increase if they actually fix the roads.  However, I'm not holding my breath. 
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Tom on November 01, 2017, 08:37:19 PM
Quote
good with the increase if they actually fix the roads.  However, I'm not holding my breath.

Me too.   
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Post by: SargeW on November 01, 2017, 08:39:48 PM
Unfortunately we have heard those promises before. And the worst part is, for those of us that have lived long term in CA know that once that tax is imposed, it never goes away. Ever. 
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Post by: TonyDtorch on November 01, 2017, 10:55:08 PM
I give up on ca..

I figured if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.....

I'm gonna get me some of that $100 million for bicycles money and buy property in Sodona AZ.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Oldgator73 on November 02, 2017, 06:27:12 AM
You can move to Delaware. If you travel north and want to avoid some traffic and a red light every hundred yards or so, you can take Del 1. From Dover to Wilmington, about 50 miles, during the week the toll is $2 each way. On the weekend the toll is $4 each way. Our gas is cheaper though. I think it's about $2.35 gal. On the other hand California has the PCH and Delaware has RT 13. I would gladly pay the extra gas money if I could drive the PCH.
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Post by: Charlie 5320 on November 02, 2017, 09:18:09 AM
Must not have been just Cal. Our gas usually increases .20 or more on Tues and then drops through out the week. Not this time, .20 tues, .27 Wed. $2.69 yesterday when I came home from the cemetery. 
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Post by: Paul & Ann on November 02, 2017, 09:31:39 AM
Gasoline here in Des Moines Iowa had been decreasing a few cents every couple of weeks for the last couple of months, then yesterday it went up 10 cents to $2.49.  I am glad I still have 3/4 of a tank that I paid $2.14 for at the end of July.
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Post by: TonyDtorch on November 10, 2017, 04:01:52 PM
I just paid $3.49 for mid grade at a Chevron .... it was $3.02 about 2 weeks ago

 Thanks Jerry  ??? ........(12 cent increase my ass).
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Willandgiselarv on November 10, 2017, 04:09:07 PM
For diesel I paid 2.79 3 weeks ago,
Today same place is 3.79 a gallon so much for the wee increase. This is also Chevron in Solano County, CA

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Post by: Kevin Means on November 10, 2017, 04:24:26 PM
We usually head east from San Diego when we take off on an RV trip. I haven't filled up with California diesel fuel in almost a year. Our 150 gallon tank makes it easy to get to Yuma (3 hours) or some other Arizona town, so that's where I've been fueling up. I filled up in Yuma three days ago, and after driving back to San Diego, I'm only down a little more than an eighth of a tank.

I filled up the Jeep while we were visiting Tombstone last week, and gas was $2.14 per gallon. That's more than a dollar a gallon cheaper than at the 711 near my house.

Kev
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Post by: DonTom on November 10, 2017, 04:41:00 PM
Years ago when Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor he said he was going to fix highway 99 from Bakersfield to Sacramento. And he did. It is pretty much completed now and in pretty good shape.

We've traveled the length of it this past few months and, with the exception of a few small sections that are being worked on, I'm happy with it.
Glad to hear that as I will be taking 99 south all the way to hwy 58 this Sunday.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesd
Post by: DonTom on November 10, 2017, 04:44:49 PM
I filled up the Jeep while we were visiting Tombstone last week, and gas was $214.00 per gallon. That's more than a dollar a gallon cheaper than at the 711 near my house.

Kev
At that price, it will cost me almost $11,000.00 to fill my 50 gal gas tank!!! That's probably more than my RV is worth!

-Don-  Auburn, CA

Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Tom on November 10, 2017, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: DonTom
... I will be taking 99 south all the way to hwy 58 this Sunday.

Don, FWIW we prefer to take I-5 south, then Hwy 46 via Wasco to Hwy 99, and south to Hwy 58. Don't have to deal with the small towns and associated traffic on Hwy 99.
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Post by: SeilerBird on November 10, 2017, 06:43:52 PM
Don, FWIW we prefer to take I-5 south, then Hwy 46 via Wasco to Hwy 99, and south to Hwy 58. Don't have to deal with the small towns and associated traffic on Hwy 99.
I agree. The reason I always prefered 5 was because 99 was like driving off road since it was in such bad shape. But then again I haven't lived in California for 20 years so things may be different.
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Post by: Tom on November 10, 2017, 07:16:56 PM
My issues with Hwy 99 are the high truck traffic and all the small towns you go through, which means additional traffic.
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Post by: TonyDtorch on November 10, 2017, 08:07:22 PM
It used to be,  never take 99 if you don't have to.

 
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: DonTom on November 10, 2017, 08:47:08 PM
Don, FWIW we prefer to take I-5 south, then Hwy 46 via Wasco to Hwy 99, and south to Hwy 58. Don't have to deal with the small towns and associated traffic on Hwy 99.
I have done the I-5 to Wasco thing countless times and that is exactly why I will never do it again during this time of year.

Ever been in the fog so thick on I-5 that you could not see a foot in front of you? And you don't know if you're going to get rear-ended by an 18 wheeler any second if you don't keep the speed up? The worse part is the next exit could be many  hours away at 15 MPH, if you can safely go that fast! That doesn't happen on 99. At least on 99 you can usually get off the freeway MUCH sooner when it becomes foggy.

Anyway, in a few days I will report back here about the shape 99 is in.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesd
Post by: Kevin Means on November 10, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
At that price, it will cost me almost $11,000.00 to fill my 50 gal gas tank!!! That's probably more than my RV is worth!

-Don-  Auburn, CA
Oops! (Darn decimal points) ;)
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Tom on November 11, 2017, 09:38:57 AM
Quote from: DonTom
Ever been in the fog so thick on I-5 that you could not see a foot in front of you?

Understood Don. We've always been lucky and not seen any fog on I-5, but have heard/read lots of stories. Easier to navigate the Delta or the Bay by boat in thick fog; Radar and GPS kept us out of trouble numerous time.
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: TonyDtorch on November 11, 2017, 09:51:54 AM
That I-5 Tule fog is an absolute nightmare to drive in,  and it happens on the 99 too.

but, it usually only happens in the rainy season.....so that should mean it doesn't happen any more, you have nothing to worry about....except for the cost of enough fuel to get home.   ;)
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: DonTom on November 11, 2017, 02:55:50 PM
That I-5 Tule fog is an absolute nightmare to drive in,  and it happens on the 99 too.
Yes, it can also happen on 99. Take the next exit and wait it out off the freeway. Perhaps a few minutes away, unlike on I-5.

BTW, it was in November several years ago we were on I-5 in the very thick fog.  I will never forget it. It's amazing that nothing happened. It was much like driving totally blind. But that might have been extra bad because it was at night.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: DonTom on November 11, 2017, 03:01:38 PM
Understood Don. We've always been lucky and not seen any fog on I-5, but have heard/read lots of stories. Easier to navigate the Delta or the Bay by boat in thick fog; Radar and GPS kept us out of trouble numerous time.
I think anybody who gets stuck in the fog as bad as we did would reconsider ever taking I-5 again, especially during this time of year. The main problem is nowhere to safely get off the freeway for hours. And I mean hours because the drive will be very, very slow to the next exit, usually many miles away, unlike 99.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: If you are in California...you better fill up your fuel tanks before Wednesday.
Post by: Tom on November 11, 2017, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: DonTom
The main problem is nowhere to safely get off the freeway for hours. And I mean hours because the drive will be very, very slow to the next exit, usually many miles away, unlike 99.

Aye Don, I got that very good point from your earlier message. I hadn't thought about that.