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Title: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: cadee2c on March 07, 2018, 08:23:59 PM
Does anyone know if the TX tag, EZ tag, and Ktag are ok to use on RVs? I checked on the TXtag site but couldn't find anything specific to RVs.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: edjunior on March 07, 2018, 08:34:20 PM
It should be fine.  The toll booths count axles...well, they have cameras that count the axles.  I asked about this when pulling my trailer(s), and they said the tag goes on the primary vehicle, and when it goes through the toll booth (or over whatever they have...some are overhead sensors/cameras now), the camera will count the axles and charge appropriately.    Plus, when you add a vehicle to your account, you specify what type it is.  One of the selections is "Bus".  Which I suppose equates to a Class A vehicle.  They also have "Trailer" as a selection, but I was told I did not need one for my TT or 5th wheel.  Or other trailers I towed (I have a utility trailer).  The camera would take care of the additional axles.

Hope this overly long answer helps you.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Randy328 on March 07, 2018, 09:35:23 PM
Some of them will automatically identify the tag of the tow vehicle and then also read axles, some plazas don't. I got a letter in the mail from the Houston system using the trailer license plate wanting the fee, even though it charged me for the truck (regular rate) which had a tag.

I called them, I got issued a tag for the trailer, which they said I didn't have to put on, just put it in the trailer. It now links to the license plate as a two-axle trailer.

Happened again with a 1-axle utility trailer, so I got a tag for it, too.

So, I now have 5 tags - truck, car, motorcycle, toy hauler, and utility trailer.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: FunSteak on March 08, 2018, 07:32:19 AM
At least in Illinois, where we live, RVs are fine.  You just add it to your account when you get the tag, including your license plate.  IIRC, you select RV when you do this. 

I can point out one important thing - with the cabover bunk in our class C, mounting the transponder on the windshield behind the mirror (standard mounting location) sometimes blocks the signal, which really, really stinks at toll plazas with gates!  I now have it stuck to the center of the dash, right against the windshield, and it's been working consistently fine.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: _Rusty_ on March 08, 2018, 01:44:56 PM
never had to pay more than $0.25 or $0.50 into the bucket.... will these toll booths take checks or ccards if the amount is big?  wouldn't get much use from ezpass until we retire in couple years, so I don't know if there is an annual fee or not.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: FunSteak on March 08, 2018, 02:37:57 PM
never had to pay more than $0.25 or $0.50 into the bucket.... will these toll booths take checks or ccards if the amount is big?  wouldn't get much use from ezpass until we retire in couple years, so I don't know if there is an annual fee or not.

I don't know of any toll booths that accept anything but cash or EZPass, but I've certainly not hit them all.

It's called "IPass" in Illinois, and is compatible with all EZPass lanes.  There's no annual fee.  You pay around $50 for the transponder, and I think $40 or so of that goes into your account for toll use.  You can, and I do, set it up to automatically replenish by charging the credit card associated with the account when the account balances goes beneath, say, $10.  You can also opt out of auto-replenish and do it manually.  At least in IL, there is a blue and an amber light at each toll booth.  Blue means "you're good", and amber means "balance low", so you know when it's time to replenish.

AFAIK, neither IPass nor EZPass works with SunPass in FL or whatever the system in TX is called. 
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Patnsuzanne on March 08, 2018, 04:14:08 PM
Ezpass will not work in Fla. Sunpass only here, Iím afraid. We used an EZ Pass all through New England this fall pulling our trailer without a problem.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 08, 2018, 04:20:09 PM
Speaking of tolls. Just saw a receipt for a toll crossing the GW bridge, NJ for a MH....$84.00.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: edjunior on March 08, 2018, 05:59:30 PM
never had to pay more than $0.25 or $0.50 into the bucket.... will these toll booths take checks or ccards if the amount is big?  wouldn't get much use from ezpass until we retire in couple years, so I don't know if there is an annual fee or not.

The easiest thing to do, at least in Texas, is get the TX Tag.  The tag itself costs nothing, and they'll mail it to you.  All you have to do is open an account with some money in it.  It's even easier to link it to a card or bank account.  Then when it hits a certain level, it will automatically fill the till, so to speak (to your designated amount...I did $35.00 fill, $10.00 threshhold).  If you don't use it, it just sits there.  It will sit there until you either use it, or close the account (then they will refund it).  Since I have 60 percent Disabled Vet rating, almost all the tolls in Texas are no charge for me.  My account has been at $34.00 for two or three years now.  If you don't use it often, no worries.  It'll be there when you do.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: ChasA on March 08, 2018, 06:03:48 PM
Just FYI. North Carolina's Quick Pass works with Florida's Sun Pass and EZ Pass. Don't know about what Texas system  accepts.  I heard (read) that all states' toll systems are supposed to be interoperable sometime in the future.  I don't know when that is.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Yonder on March 08, 2018, 06:07:50 PM
Has anybody heard of making all toll passes accepted nationally?  What a concept.  Montana doesn't have them (one of our blessings!) but we travel to SF Bay area on business with enough frequency that I have one for there (Fastrak) that I carry in the Coach. Sure would be great to have it work going through Denver and so on.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: HappyWanderer on March 08, 2018, 06:30:52 PM
There was talk of a nation-wide EZ Pass system, but it has yet to happen.

Indiana accepts credit cards, at least they did last time I was out there.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: NY_Dutch on March 08, 2018, 07:15:15 PM
The MAP-21 law passed 2012 called for a unified electronic tolling system by Oct 1, 2016, but obviously that deadline has come and gone. The article linked below will give you some idea of the complexity in complying with the mandate:

"Why We Donít Have The Unified One Single Electronic Transponder System?" (https://thepavlovictoday.com/afterimage-review/still-dont-unified-single-electronic-toll-collection-system/)
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: RVRAC on March 08, 2018, 10:38:59 PM
In the Houston area an EZ Tag is required for the MH and the toad.  They are separate tags, both must be purchased.  The one for Class C comes with instructions to place it in the lower part of the windshield close to the middle of it.  You are charged $40 for initial deposit and a monthly report is sent to you by email.  This is what I have.  In IL, we use an I-Pass for all vehicles.  You also need a credit card on file.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: edjunior on March 09, 2018, 08:56:41 PM
In the Houston area an EZ Tag is required for the MH and the toad.  They are separate tags, both must be purchased.  The one for Class C comes with instructions to place it in the lower part of the windshield close to the middle of it.  You are charged $40 for initial deposit and a monthly report is sent to you by email.  This is what I have.  In IL, we use an I-Pass for all vehicles.  You also need a credit card on file.

This is why I went with the TX Tag.  They don't charge for the tag.  I have not had to get a separate tag for my trailers yet (I pull a 5th wheel and a utility trailer).  As I said above, the cameras count the axles and charge appropriately.  At least this is the way it's worked for me since I've been here.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: cadee2c on March 10, 2018, 08:45:26 PM
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the cameras count the axles and charge appropriately


Thats what it says on their website too. But again, it doesnt mention MHs and toads.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: scottydl on March 11, 2018, 11:31:34 PM
It's called "IPass" in Illinois, and is compatible with all EZPass lanes.  There's no annual fee.  You pay around $50 for the transponder, and I think $40 or so of that goes into your account for toll use.

The other major advantage in Illinois is that with the I-Pass, the tolls are half price (compared to pulling over and paying cash/coin).  That's more than worth the $10 net cost of the transponder.  With some Chicago area tolls nearing the $5 range now, the savings add up fast.  And we only use ours a couple times per year.  I just set the transponder on the dash when we are nearing a toll and it works fine.  Otherwise it stays in the center console in its anti-static bag (or whatever that thing is).  Every so often, I log in online and check my balance to make sure there is enough for our next trip.

When we had our motorhome, I'd occasionally get lucky and only get charged the car rate.  But the systems now are usually smart enough to catch the extra axles and/or larger vehicle and charge accordingly.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: FunSteak on March 12, 2018, 07:24:13 AM
The other major advantage in Illinois is that with the I-Pass, the tolls are half price (compared to pulling over and paying cash/coin).  That's more than worth the $10 net cost of the transponder.  With some Chicago area tolls nearing the $5 range now, the savings add up fast.  And we only use ours a couple times per year.  I just set the transponder on the dash when we are nearing a toll and it works fine.  Otherwise it stays in the center console in its anti-static bag (or whatever that thing is).  Every so often, I log in online and check my balance to make sure there is enough for our next trip.

When we had our motorhome, I'd occasionally get lucky and only get charged the car rate.  But the systems now are usually smart enough to catch the extra axles and/or larger vehicle and charge accordingly.

IPass rate being 1/2 off the cash price (in Illinois) is a great point that I neglected to mention.  If you spend any time on the Chicagoland expressways, this adds up to real savings!

Remember you can set up your account to automatically replenish from your card when it reaches a certain threshold (that you can adjust).  It eliminates needing to check the account for sufficient balance.  Only issue I've had is neglecting to update my card info when it expired, causing me to be briefly trapped in a gated plaza on the OH turnpike...  Whoops!   :-[
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: NY_Dutch on March 12, 2018, 07:39:44 AM
The NY State Thruway has an E-ZPass "Motorhome Plan" that only charges us regular car rates per axle instead of the higher "tall vehicle" rates the large trucks and buses pay. We did have to register with a copy of our registration to get a transponder coded for the plan. There's also a discount plan for 5'vers.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Macrosill on March 15, 2018, 06:07:08 AM
Speaking of tolls. Just saw a receipt for a toll crossing the GW bridge, NJ for a MH....$84.00.

Last year I got banged 68 dollars to cross the GWB, and that was with the blue "rv discount" transponder.  This is out of control.  I have to allot a couple hundred extra for every RV trip off the Island.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: scottydl on March 15, 2018, 05:50:24 PM
Holy cow... for $68 or $84 I'd want to be able to stop and camp ON the bridge.  With full hookups!
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: docj on March 15, 2018, 08:38:58 PM
In the Houston area an EZ Tag is required for the MH and the toad.  They are separate tags, both must be purchased.  The one for Class C comes with instructions to place it in the lower part of the windshield close to the middle of it.  You are charged $40 for initial deposit and a monthly report is sent to you by email.  This is what I have.  In IL, we use an I-Pass for all vehicles.  You also need a credit card on file.

I can tell you from experience that the TX system is very unreliable if you have passes in both the MH and the toad despite what you may be told.  After a trip on the Sam Houston Toll road around Houston we would get separate charges totaling, occasionally, as many as 5 axles (even though both vehicles have 2 axles).  These days we simply remove the toad's pass and put it in a foil pouch.  The axles counters are pretty accurate and usually we get billed for 4 axles.  Even though the pass has adhesive and is designed not be be removable we just use 3M dual lock fasteners to hold it to the windshield rather than the adhesive.  Dual Lock is the same material that EZPass gives you for mounting your pass on your windshield.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: cadee2c on March 17, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
Personally, I like Kansas Turnpike the best... you get a ticket when you get on and then you stop and pay when you get off. You dont have a bunch of different toll plazas to have to go through
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Larry N. on March 17, 2018, 08:44:40 PM
Personally, I like Kansas Turnpike the best... you get a ticket when you get on and then you stop and pay when you get off. You dont have a bunch of different toll plazas to have to go through

I agree -- it's great. Now if we just figure out how to move it to Chicago.....
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: NY_Dutch on March 18, 2018, 06:40:35 AM
Personally, I like Kansas Turnpike the best... you get a ticket when you get on and then you stop and pay when you get off. You dont have a bunch of different toll plazas to have to go through

I like toll roads like the NY Thruway, Mass Pike, etc., where we can get on and never need to stop for tickets or tolls at all. They just read our E-ZPass tag as we roll on by.  ;)
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Bill N on March 18, 2018, 06:49:51 AM
I like toll roads like the NY Thruway, Mass Pike, etc., where we can get on and never need to stop for tickets or tolls at all. They just read our E-ZPass tag as we roll on by.  ;)

Best is Missouri where I have yet to see any toll road. Not sure if any exist.

Bill
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: NY_Dutch on March 18, 2018, 07:08:22 AM
Best is Missouri where I have yet to see any toll road. Not sure if any exist.

Bill

A number of states have no toll roads, Bill, and certainly that's preferable from a traveler standpoint. But where there are tolls, my statement stands...
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Madcow on March 18, 2018, 07:18:26 AM
Best is Missouri where I have yet to see any toll road. Not sure if any exist.

Bill

Missouri legislature, for several years, has made overtures that they would like to turn I-70 into a toll road.

I go thru Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio frequently.  The toll thing doesn't really bother me much, but the fact that Indiana and Ohio like to live in the past and still use gates is.  Illinois uses high speed tolling out on the main road for those with EZ Pass.  I was hoping, big time, that when Indiana leased out the the I-80/90 toll road, that it would get upgraded to high speed tolling.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Larry N. on March 18, 2018, 07:47:58 AM
I like toll roads like the NY Thruway, Mass Pike, etc., where we can get on and never need to stop for tickets or tolls at all. They just read our E-ZPass tag as we roll on by.  ;)

That's a neat feature, but the Kansas Turnpike is cheaper (a lot) than most places I've found toll roads. Of course it's been in place for a lot of years, but so has the Pennsy, and it's expensive.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: scottydl on March 18, 2018, 10:22:36 AM
Lots of talk about Illinois, but the only tolls you will find here are in the Chicagoland area (uppermost NE corner of the state).  The rest of the state (and that's most of us) let you drive the roads for free.  ;)
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: NY_Dutch on March 18, 2018, 10:44:55 AM
Since the topic is about toll tags, references to places without tolls is really pretty irrelevant.  :)
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Bill N on March 19, 2018, 07:10:29 AM
Lots of talk about Illinois, but the only tolls you will find here are in the Chicagoland area (uppermost NE corner of the state).  The rest of the state (and that's most of us) let you drive the roads for free.  ;)
That reminds me Scotty of the last toll road I was on several years ago.  I think it was I-80 on the southern edge of Chicago.  Was sailing along on free interstate and came to a toll booth.  Paid toll for a 5 mile stretch the entirely of which was under reconstruction and limited to one lane in each direction.  After the 5 miles, the interstate continued on free of any tolls.  I think that was nothing more than a toll trap but looking at a map I see it is still the same.

Bill
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Bill N on March 19, 2018, 07:12:04 AM
Since the topic is about toll tags, references to places without tolls is really pretty irrelevant.  :)
Perhaps true Dutch but maybe I am on the Missouri Tourism Commission and trolling for non-toll seekers......lol

Bill
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: Old_Crow on March 19, 2018, 08:38:15 AM
I use to have my GPS set to avoid toll roads. 
Only time it was ever even noticeable to me was going to Fort Pickens in Florida.  In order to miss a toll bridge(and save like $2)over to the island, the GPS routed me to the opposite end of the island where the free bridge is.  This cost me a long stop and go drive across the island to the park.  That coming at the end of an already long day.  Then I got stuck in the campground behind some guy who tried to pull his car and dolly around too sharp a corner and was now waiting for a tow truck to lift his car off the dolly to avoid damage. 
The corner wasn't any problem to me, our Toad had been stolen 2 days before at a campground on the Natchez Trace, so after he cleared the turn I drove right around the turn and set up...now in the dark.  ::)

Now-a-days I just pay the damn tolls.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: firewall on March 19, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
I went through Mass, the passes are free with an initial minimum of $20.00. In Ct we have "combination" plates which are required for 3/4 ton and/or commercial type vehicles. It's a $50.00 minimum. As soon as I put my plate in the system it was flagged as commercial, ok, no big deal I'll pay the $50. You also have to order a separate transponder for the RV, a trailer in my case. The idea is the truck gets two transponders, one for towing one for not towing. Within a week or so the passenger plate passes I ordered were delivered, no passes for the truck.

After a few weeks I called and the call taker advised me I was missing information for the truck. They wanted to know if my truck had a GVW of over 9500lbs, answer was easy - no. The next question I found comical although I think they try to trap people.....she asked me if my truck fits in the garage. I said no, because I don't have a garage, she then said if you did would it fit? Laughing to myself I said no, within a week I had two transponders properly marked for towing and non-towing!

I have seen posts where people just use the same pass whether towing or not. Mass offers a discount for tolls in their State which now are all plate readers, no option to pay at all. I think they may nab the plate of the RV and charge if it's not in the EZ Pass system. So all in all it's a better deal and I'm sure more States will be going the way of overhead readers.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: scottydl on March 19, 2018, 08:18:56 PM
Since the topic is about toll tags, references to places without tolls is really pretty irrelevant.  :)

What better solution (when talking about tolls and tags) than to discover that you can drive on road that never need any! ;D

That reminds me Scotty of the last toll road I was on several years ago. . .I think that was nothing more than a toll trap but looking at a map I see it is still the same.

You bet it's the same.  When I was younger my dad told me a story about one of the first new tollways around Chicago (1970's or 80's?)... at the time the state said it was a temporary revenue generator to help pay for the road to be finished, and then the tollway would be removed.  Well guess what.  Once they realized how much money it was making, the thing never left.  And of course, hundreds more have since been built!

I use to have my GPS set to avoid toll roads.

Me too, and one year traveling past Chicago I was convinced I wasn't going to pay the enhanced RV rate of the single tollbooth I'd pass... and I was sure I had the slickest alternate route.  I did avoid the toll, but added 30-45 minutes to my trip on a city road with a ton of red traffic lights, and through a not-so-great neighborhood where my 35' Class A pulling a tow dolly (plus wife and three kids in the rig) certainly got some looks.  On the return trip I decided to just pay the toll, and later found out I was only charged the half-price car rate of 35 cents.  The joke was on me that time!!

The half-price Ipass module for Illinois tolls really is worthwhile.
Title: Re: Toll tags and RVs?
Post by: mweber (KC9NPT) on March 19, 2018, 08:39:24 PM

You bet it's the same.  When I was younger my dad told me a story about one of the first new tollways around Chicago (1970's or 80's?)... at the time the state said it was a temporary revenue generator to help pay for the road to be finished, and then the tollway would be removed.  Well guess what.  Once they realized how much money it was making, the thing never left.  And of course, hundreds more have since been built!



Sounds like what used to be  IL I5 (now I-88) in 1975. Moved into an apartment right next to it in 1975 and that's what we were told.