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Title: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 06, 2018, 11:38:07 PM
I know it's super early, but I've been planning a trip around the country with my kiddos. We're leaving July 31, 2019 and coming home, to NY, in June 2020. By then, we will have been to all 48 of the continental United States. We're so excited. I have a lot of the planning done, but not all of it. We'll be staying in some campgrounds and doing some boondocking along the way.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on August 06, 2018, 11:52:31 PM
Sounds like a fun trip. I think kids benefit a lot from traveling. 

Keep us updated once you start. What kind of RV are you taking on the trip?


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Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 12:36:05 AM
I'm looking for a class A with a bunk and a drop down bed over the driver. I found a 2015 Thor Motor Coach 30.2 in Fl that I really want to go get but I was talked out of buying one so early and so far away. So I'll wait a while so I'm not paying insurance for a vehicle just parke somewhere. But it's killing me not to get this one lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on August 07, 2018, 12:57:49 AM
Are you planning to tow a car behind the class A ?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 01:07:38 AM
Yes, I was thinking a Journey. I want something as small as possible, and something inexpensive yet reliable, but still able to hold all of us, myself and my 6 kids. So my choices are limited. A Journey is at the top of the list right now.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 07, 2018, 02:47:41 AM
Small and seven people is not possible in an RV. You are looking at needing a 35 to 40 foot class A. Every person has 'stuff' and that stuff ends up being a lot of weight and a lot of room. Everybody uses the rest rooms. Small RVs have small holding tanks which mean visiting a dump station on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: HappyWanderer on August 07, 2018, 06:15:38 AM
Small and seven people is not possible in an RV. You are looking at needing a 35 to 40 foot class A. Every person has 'stuff' and that stuff ends up being a lot of weight and a lot of room. Everybody uses the rest rooms. Small RVs have small holding tanks which mean visiting a dump station on a daily basis.

Of course it's possible. They're currently in a pop-up: horrors!

There are untold thousands of people traveling the country in far less than 40 foot units.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 07, 2018, 06:33:51 AM
Of course it's possible. They're currently in a pop-up: horrors!

There are untold thousands of people traveling the country in far less than 40 foot units.
They are camping in pop up, not living full time, huge difference. There are thousands of people travelling the US in less than a 40 footer but do they have seven people in them?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 09:07:59 AM
We travel very light. We spend every weekend in our 35ft TT and have spent weeks at a time traveling with our pop up, all along the east coast. You'd be surprised how little space 7 people can live in lol.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gary RV_Wizard on August 07, 2018, 11:06:09 AM
A year trip sounds like a lot, but I think you will find it challenging to see 48 states in that amount of time. It's a BIG country!  Since states can be reached and seen easily enough in 5-7 days, but others may take weeks.


I think you should buy well before your panned departure and get some hands-on experience in whatever rig you choose. And since you are in NY, buying one in the winter isn't real helpful. If you don't purchase this fall, make it early next spring.  In fact, go south and buy in Jan-Feb so you can have it ready to go by June.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 02:22:20 PM
I found a great deal on one in Florida, I'm still tempted to go get it, but I'm thinking I'll probably wait a little while longer, but you're right, I want it ahead of time enough to be comfortable with it and know what I'm doing.
As much as I'm a big planner, I'm also very easy going so our plan specifics can be altered if we decide to spend longer in one place or leave one place earlier than planned. Some places I've planned to be in longer than others because I planned in time for doing laundry and getting maintenance on the RV. I also don't want to be driving long distances daily for that amount of time. 
Here is a very generalized itinerary for those 10 months:

July 31 Presque Isle, PA
August 8 Cedar Point
Aug 9 Upper Peninsula, Michigan
Aug 14 Apostle Islands
Aug 22 Badlands National Park
Aug 23 Mt Rushmore
Aug 25 Yellowstone/ Grand Teton 
Sept 8 Glacier Park
Sept 15 Seattle/ Olympic National Park Sept 29 Portland
Oct 3 Redwoods
Oct 8 San Fran
Oct 13 Lake Tahoe
Oct 18 Yosemite
Oct 29 Big Sur and Pacific Highway
Oct 30 L.A./ Hollywood
Nov 8 or 9 San Diego
Nov 24 Vegas
Dec 2 Hoover Dam
Dec 3 Grand Canyon
Dec 10 Zion National Park
Dec 12 Salt Lake City
Dec 19 Denver
Dec 27 Albuquerque
Jan 3 San Antonio
Jan 10 Houston
Jan 17 New Orleans
Jan 28 Tampa
Feb 5 Everglades
Feb 6 Key West
Feb 7 Ft Lauderdale
Feb 14 St Augustine
Feb 18 Savannah
Feb 25 Nashville
March 3 Memphis
March 10 Arkansas
March 11 Oklahoma
March 14 Kansas
March 18 Nebraska
March 22 Iowa
March 26 St Louis
April 2 Mammoth Cave
April 5 Lexington
April 14 Myrtle beach
April 20 my college room mate in NC
April 21 Virginia Beach
May 5 Dewey/ Rehoboth beach
May 13 six flags NJ
May 19 Lancaster/ Hershey
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 07, 2018, 02:32:19 PM
Sounds like a dynamite trip Amanda. You should know that reservations at Yosemite are very different from any other place. They must be made five months in advance. There is a schedule and if you want to camp on Oct 14 then you must make your reservation on May 15th at 7am Pacific time. Not 7:05, they will all be booked by then.

https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/camping.htm
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 02:35:35 PM
Thanks for the advice! I'll put it in my calendar! :)
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: darsben on August 07, 2018, 02:48:27 PM
Please try to include Canyon De Chelly and the four corners in your plans.
Most people who  have been to Canyon De Chelly  consider more beautiful than the Grand Canyon.
Four Corners allows you to be in four states at one time.

December in the Rockies might be problematic  snow comes early there and the snow and ice can make the journey less than nice. Also in the winter the Campgrounds in the area most likely will be closed  so you will be boondocking in the cold.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 03:28:03 PM
I'll add that to the list! Four corners we were going to play by ear, but if we're already that close on a day trip out there during our time at Grand Canyon, I'll plan on Four Corners too.
As for Denver, that was actually a concern of mine, I have plan Bs (or even Cs lol) for most of our journey lol, I'm ridiculously prepared before I go. I definitely don't want to drive in bad weather.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 07, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
Gary, or anyone else who has experience, which is all of you lol, I found a great deal on one now, am I better off taking it ($55,000 for a 2015 Thor ACE 30.2 with 11,000 miles in great condition) or hold out until the end of the season and look for people just wanting to get rid of them before summer?
I really appreciate any opinions offered, I'm struggling with this one.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 07, 2018, 07:41:26 PM
Gary, or anyone else who has experience, which is all of you lol, I found a great deal on one now, am I better off taking it ($55,000 for a 2015 Thor ACE 30.2 with 11,000 miles in great condition) or hold out until the end of the season and look for people just wanting to get rid of them before summer?
I really appreciate any opinions offered, I'm struggling with this one.
I don't think price varies that much over the course of a year. If you find the RV of your dreams at a good price you should jump on it. It is hard to find exactly what you want at the price you can afford.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on August 08, 2018, 01:17:46 AM
A bird in hand is worth 10 in the bush. 

Are you sure you like the layout and has your price checking confirmed that's a reasonable price? 

I'm kind of a person who will buy something I like when it is available because sure as the devil I'll never find another one like it.

It's a tough decision but you've made a bunch of those in the past...trust your gut feeling.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 08, 2018, 05:08:19 PM
I'm buying it! Now I'm super excited! Is it July 2019 yet? Lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on August 08, 2018, 08:10:58 PM
I'm buying it! Now I'm super excited! Is it July 2019 yet? Lol

Onward and upward!!  Now you'll have plenty of time to train the crew. I assume each one gets a chore?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:46 PM
Lol you assume correctly! My job is to drive and pay, the rest can be split up among the rest of them 😄
I do that with most things, for example, dinner, I pay for it and shop, they can cook and clean it up. I haven't done dishes in years.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 13, 2018, 07:10:37 PM
I just read your itinerary again and I wish to point out that if you wish to spend the night at Key West in February you must have reservations at least a year in advance. Make your reservation there soon.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 13, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
I've added to my itinerary after some awesome suggestions (like going to Death Valley) but no, I'll have the RV on the main land and we'll take a car to the end and back, stopping for touristy stuff along the way, but not spending the night in the keys. None the less, I appreciate the advice, in case I were.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 13, 2018, 07:18:31 PM
One thing I just thought about for you. There are many RV clubs you can join. Most are just after your money. However in your case Passport America would be a wise investment. It is great for saving 50% on campgrounds and RV parks. It is only good in most cases for one or two nights. No discount on long term. Last time I drove across country it saved me the $44 it costs in three nights. After that is 1/2 price. It is a system that needs to be studied a bit to be able to use it but they are legit, you really do save 50% and the parks I stayed at were really nice.

http://www.passportamerica.com/
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 13, 2018, 07:20:07 PM
I'll check it out!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 17, 2018, 11:32:29 AM
Tom, Passport America is awesome! I wasn't sure it would be something I could use because I planned on boondocking some and staying in inexpensive state parks. But a lot of the places end up being the same price as a state park and more tailored to RVs obviously. I've just figured on the first half so far and it will save me a ridiculous amount of money. Thank you so much!
Ps- I'm sure I'll have no problem finding somewhere to blow all that extra money! Lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 17, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
You are welcome Amanda. When do you fly to Tampa?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 17, 2018, 12:24:19 PM
The 25th! I'm excited, the seller is going to teach me everything I need to know. My youngest daughter is coming with me, so we'll get lots of one on one time on the drive home.
And I bought a Garmin, so many new toys, this is better than Christmas! Lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: dcasement on September 18, 2018, 10:38:34 AM
We, too, will be traveling the Lower 48 over a 12 month period in the next few years (retirement trip!).  Our goal is to visit all the National Parks in the lower 48 and hopefully visit most states.  We are interested in outdoor activities, but also enjoy cultural activities and city visits.  How did you begin planning your trip?  What resources did you access to make planning less overwhelming?  Would love to hear about your trip and the good/bad/ugly adventures and lessons learned!  Have fun!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on September 18, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
We, too, will be traveling the Lower 48 over a 12 month period in the next few years (retirement trip!).  Our goal is to visit all the National Parks in the lower 48 and hopefully visit most states.  We are interested in outdoor activities, but also enjoy cultural activities and city visits.  How did you begin planning your trip?  What resources did you access to make planning less overwhelming?  Would love to hear about your trip and the good/bad/ugly adventures and lessons learned!  Have fun!
I plan my trips with Google Maps. I make a custom map and start by putting a pin in every place I want to visit. Then I use the line function to draw out a tentative route. I have two rules for the route. I never cross over the route and I go in a circle. I never backtrack.

I have been to all 47 of the National Parks in the lower 48 and it will be a worthwhile and memorable trip. I did it in two years. One week in each of the western NPs and then the next year I did one week in each of the eastern NPs. The big problem with doing them all in one year is weather, bugs and tourists. All three need to be considered when planning a trip to a National Park. You do not want to visit North Cascades in December and you don't want to be in Death Valley or the Everglades in July. It takes an awesome amount of planning to make sure you won't have problems with weather, bugs or tourists.

If you visit my photo site I have tons of NP photos. I also visited all 48 states.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 18, 2018, 12:11:42 PM
I started out knowing that I wanted to be up north all summer and head south all winter. I have a notebook (I write everything down) and researched top must sees or must dos of each state. (We're skipping the NE states that we've already been to) I did lots of Google searches. I made a tentative plan and then added a lot to it after getting advice here on this forum. If you read through this thread and the one on bucket lists, people have awesome suggestions. That's where I started.
There's so much to cram into such a short period of time lol, you realize how much there is to see and do once you try to plan it all in a 10 month period. You also need to remember to plan on time for laundry and "house keeping" like vehicle maintenance. I have a cram packed schedule, HOWEVER, I am using that as a suggestion and over planned instead of under planned. So there are things on our itinerary that we will probably not wind up doing if I need a down day or aren't up to driving, if someone gets sick (there are 7 of us so it's bound to happen at some point), if we have vehicle issues, if we decide to stay somewhere longer than planned to see more there, if we hit bad weather, if places are closed etc etc etc.
Also, like Tom said (and he is an AWESOME source of information, he's been a huge help to me over and over again) I also don't re-cross my path.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on September 18, 2018, 01:03:50 PM
Also, like Tom said (and he is an AWESOME source of information, he's been a huge help to me over and over again) I also don't re-cross my path.
Thanks Amanda but you shouldn't say things like that here. You might get tarred and feathered by one of my critics. :o

The reason I don't cross my path is due to planning. I find it much easier to look at a map with a circular route than one where you travel willy nilly all over. After I plan a route I spend at least 15 minutes a day reviewing my route and making adjustments. I go over the route section by section and look for ways I can cut some unnecessary mileage from the trip. I also look for interesting places to stop on my route. For my money the planning is about 1/2 the fun of a trip.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 18, 2018, 02:59:50 PM
Thanks Amanda but you shouldn't say things like that here. You might get tarred and feathered by one of my critics

Lol I can handle it
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: ip076 on September 18, 2018, 07:05:30 PM
I've been traveling the lower 48 for 16 months now, admittedly without much of a plan...I've avoided backtracking for the most part, but have crossed paths a few times.  I think I have 9 states left.

It looks like you've got a good plan, it may definitely be a hustle in some places.  I think you need to reconsider December though.  I lived in Northern AZ for 17 years, you could end up in some cruddy weather for sure in December.  Flagstaff is usually snow skiing by then, and if not timed right you could end up in some good storms.  Same goes for CO, UT, and NM. 

Enjoy the trip!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on September 18, 2018, 07:09:27 PM
Lol I can handle it
You are such an angel. If you lived in Florida and I was 20 years younger I would challenge your boyfriend to a duel. :o
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 18, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
I think you need to reconsider December though.  I lived in Northern AZ for 17 years, you could end up in some cruddy weather for sure in December.
I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the weather. We may have to park one place and do day trips in the car if need be. Keeping my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 18, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
You are such an angel. If you lived in Florida and I was 20 years younger I would challenge your boyfriend to a duel. :o
Lol thanks, but no boyfriend- too busy doing the mom thing
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on September 19, 2018, 04:11:31 AM
Lol thanks, but no boyfriend- too busy doing the mom thing
There is something seriously wrong with the men in Rochester.  :o
I wonder if I can move my fiver with my Veloster :o
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 19, 2018, 09:08:05 AM
Lol thanks, but it's very much by choice
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on September 19, 2018, 10:16:07 AM
Well if you ever change your mind then sell your house, move into the RV and come live in Florida. I will get a phony drivers license listing my age as 39.  ;D
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: ziplock on April 28, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
Amanda,

Is everything ready for  your family trip? 

Have you made all your reservations?

So exciting!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 30, 2019, 10:27:21 AM
Amanda,

Is everything ready for  your family trip? 

Have you made all your reservations?

So exciting!
I'm so excited! Every day is a little more prep work, but I'm getting there. The trip plans are done for the most part. Reservations are made, tickets are bought, route is planned. RV is bought and set up, the weekend of May 11, I'm getting it inspected and un-winterizing it. I bought the toad, but still have to purchase the dolly. We've done an inventory of everyone's clothes and got everything we need. The biggest thing I've been working on lately is packing up my house. I'm storing everything in the attic and renting it out. So in the next couple weeks I'm installing locks on doors and have to do some repairs. Slowly but surely, emotionally I'm beyond ready!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on June 02, 2019, 01:49:33 PM
I've tweaked my original itinerary. Here's what I'm planning now.
July 31 Presque Isle, PA
Aug 7 Cuyahoga Valley NP
Aug 8 Cedar Point
Aug 9 Upper Peninsula, Michigan
Aug 14 Green Bay
Aug 16 Minneapolis
Aug 19 Fargo
Aug 20 Bismarck
Aug 21 Badlands NP
Aug 25 Mt Rushmore
Aug 26 Grand Teton NP
Aug 28 Yellowstone NP
Sept 8 Missoula, Montana
Sept 10 Glacier NP
Sept 14 Spokane
Sept 15 North Cascades NP
Sept 17 Seattle
Sept 23 Mt Rainier NP
Sept 25 Olympic NP
Sept 29 Portland
Oct 1 Crater Lake NP
Oct 2 Redwood NP
Oct 5 Lassen Volcanic NP
Oct 7 Lake Tahoe
Oct 12 San Francisco
Oct 18 Yosemite NP
Oct 24 King Canyon/Sequoia NPs
Oct 27 Big Sur and Pacific Highway
Oct 29 Hearst Castle
Oct 29 L.A./ Hollywood/ Disneyland
Nov 10 San Diego
Nov 20 Joshua Tree NP
Nov 22 Death Valley NP
Nov 24 Las Vegas
Dec 3 Hoover Dam
Dec 4 Grand Canyon NP
Dec 10 Canyon de Chelly
Dec 11 Four Corners
Dec 12 Mesa Verde NP
Dec 14 Canyonland NP
Dec 15 Arches NP, Moab
Dec 17 Capitol Reef NP
Dec 18 Bryce Canyon NP
Dec 20 Zion NP
Dec 22 Salt Lake City
Dec 26 Black Canyon NP
Dec 27 Great Sand Dunes NP
Dec 29 Albuquerque
Jan 1 Roswell
Jan 2 Carlsbad Caverns NP
Jan 3 Guadalupe Mtns NP
Jan 4 Big Bend NP
Jan 5 San Antonio
Jan 10 Austin
Jan 11 Houston
Jan 17 New Orleans
Jan 28 Tampa
Feb 4 Everglades NP
Feb 6 Key West
Feb 7 Ft Lauderdale
Feb 14 St Augustine
Feb 18 Savannah
Feb 25 Nashville
March 3 Memphis
March 9 Arkansas
March 11 Oklahoma
March 14 Kansas
March 18 Nebraska
March 22 Iowa
March 26 St Louis
April 2 Mammoth Cave NP
April 5 Lexington
April 13 Charlotte, NC
April 14 Myrtle beach
April 20 Outer Banks, NC
April 22 Virginia Beach
May 5 Dewey/ Rehoboth beach
May 13 Six Flags NJ
May 19 Lancaster/ Hershey/ Gettysburg

Let's see how close I get to actually following it!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Laura & Charles on August 04, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
Laura and I will be heading over The Mighty Mac 8/10 to Manistique for three weeks. Will you be anywhere near?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: TonyL on August 04, 2019, 12:22:19 PM
Hi Amanda,
If you have time in your schedule, it might be worth visiting the Grand Coulee dam. Amazing laser show over the dam and the tour is free. Excellent visitors center which explains a lot more than just the construction.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 04, 2019, 01:35:01 PM
Charles, I will, I'll message you!

Tony, thanks! Sounds good!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on August 04, 2019, 02:57:46 PM
I will second seeing Grand Coulee Dam, it is a very impressive example of engineering, if only it was not in the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 04, 2019, 03:50:46 PM
Another vote for GCD. Makes Hoover look like a wine bottle cork.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 04, 2019, 05:09:15 PM
I looked it up, we're going right by it! I'll definitely add it to the agenda!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: ziplock on August 07, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
I am very much enjoying your blog.  It will be great to follow all winter while you are having fun and we are just doing the same ole thing, like shoveling snow and going to work and shoveling snow and going to work and....…………...hahahahahahha

Waving at you!  Thanks for thinking about doing that blog!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 08, 2019, 09:39:21 AM
Awww thanks!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Bearcatrp on August 13, 2019, 04:47:10 AM
How is your trip going so far?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 13, 2019, 04:53:08 AM
How is your trip going so far?
https://rvmama6.home.blog/
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 14, 2019, 08:08:05 AM
I was off line for a few days, but it's going great! There have been some frustrating moments while I learn the ropes, but the good times far outweigh those moments. We're in Manistique, Michigan, right now and heading to Green Bay, Wisconsin, this afternoon. The Upper Peninsula is gorgeous, I would have loved to stay much longer. (I have a feeling that's going to be a common theme on this trip!) I try to keep my blog up to date, it would be a lot easier to do if I had another driver lol, but I'll post daily the next couple days to get caught up.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: phil-t on August 14, 2019, 08:20:11 AM
Hi Amanda,
We have always found it to be the case, that we don't "see" all there is (in fact we "skip" many attractions, to see the "big stuff") to see and do.  All I can say is, we make notes of those places we skipped over and plan a future trip.   8)  Maybe after 20 years of touring the lower 48 we might be able to "skim the surface".

Enjoy the time with the kids and safe travels.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 14, 2019, 08:28:52 AM
Thanks! Yeah I'll definitely need at least a second trip. 10 months is just not going to cut it for me. If it weren't for the kids, and maybe Mark, I wouldn't have an end date.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on August 14, 2019, 11:13:38 AM
Our first trip around the country included the upper Peninsula and it was one of the places we returned to years later to explore more thoroughly.

 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 14, 2019, 12:45:18 PM
I spent ten years full timing it in the US and I doubt I saw one percent of what I wanted to see.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on August 14, 2019, 01:15:46 PM
Tom is just counting the days Amanda  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Laura & Charles on August 14, 2019, 10:31:35 PM
Was really great meeting you and your great kids in Manistique!  Hope we meet up again down the road!!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 15, 2019, 07:10:06 AM
I could easily live in Michigan, UP or the mitten, I love them both, I'll definitely be back!
Tom I know the feeling but you've seen and done A LOT!!!
Charles, we look forward to it! Thank you to you and Laura again for everything.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 21, 2019, 02:38:14 AM
Amanda's blog states "I feel like North Dakota is the calm before the storm because there isn’t much excitement in ND..." You should have been with me in 2004 at the north unit of Theodore Roosevelt NP the day a buffalo charged me. You want excitement? Try avoiding a 2000 pound mad buffalo. And then a few nights later I had to exit my van and almost tripped on the doorway. If I would have fell out of the van I would have landed on my right arm and broke it. I was 50 miles from the nearest doctor late on a Saturday night.

And then there was the afternoon at Juniper Campground in the north unit. I decided to go find something to photograph. Juniper is a small campground with 48 spaces, and mine was in the back. I drove up to the front of the campground where the check-in kiosk and restrooms are located at a large grassy area. About a dozen buffaloes has moved into the grass area and were busy mowing it. I have had a buffalo charge my van in the past so I parked and waited for the buffaloes to disperse. This is the only buffalo-jam I have ever seen in a campground.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: ChasA on August 21, 2019, 09:04:31 AM
There was a news piece on CBS about a buffalo stampede in Yellowstone last week. A buffalo charged the front end of an SUV and broke the windshield.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on August 21, 2019, 01:26:00 PM
Speaking of buffalo's....

What did the buffalo say when his son went off to College?

Bi son

Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on August 21, 2019, 02:36:29 PM
There was a news piece on CBS about a buffalo stampede in Yellowstone last week. A buffalo charged the front end of an SUV and broke the windshield.

And this is news?   When we were fuelling up leaving Yellowstone in the summer of 2017, a tow truck pulled in the the gas station towing an SUV which has been disabled by a charging Buffalo (radiator pushed in).
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on August 24, 2019, 11:27:10 PM
Tom what happened?! Why did he charge you? How did you get away?!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on August 25, 2019, 02:35:06 AM
Tom what happened?! Why did he charge you? How did you get away?!
There is only one road in the north unit to TRNP and at the very end is a cul-de-sac that turns into a small parking lot located on a small bluff that overlooks a large meadow. There were about a half a dozen other tourists parked there and looking at the view. As a group we were wandering around the cul-de-sac when we ventured onto a path located right next to the parking lot. The trail led into the woods.
About a hundred yards up the path was a lone buffalo. Lone buffaloes are a lot more dangerous than when they are in a group. A lone buffalo is an old man past his prime, no longer allowed to mate and rejected from the group. They are never in a good mood.

I am a wildlife photographer and I have had to study all the different animals I might run into so I know what to do if I encounter one in the wild and I end up too close. With buffalo it is pretty simple, out of sight out of mind. They have a worse memory than even me. So I yelled out to the group 'hide' and I disappeared behind a tree, so did everyone else. The buffalo stopped charging. He was pissed off because we were walking on his pathway.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 17, 2019, 08:47:56 PM
We made it from NY to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and are now in the very rainy Washington.
I knew Washington had a reputation for being cloudy, but since we left NY 7 weeks ago, it rained one day in PA, one day on and off in Yellowstone, and at least part of every day that we've been in WA the past 4 days! ☁⚡☔🌧🌦🌧
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Post by: Arch Hoagland on September 17, 2019, 09:04:02 PM
If you see people there with what appears to be a tan....it's actually rust.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 17, 2019, 09:08:02 PM
If you see people there with what appears to be a tan....it's actually rust.
😂
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Post by: Lou Schneider on September 18, 2019, 06:12:25 AM
I lived near Port Townsend for 5 years and found the Seattle TV stations actually forecast "sun breaks" hour by hour so people can plan their outdoor activities accordingly.

Any period of sunshine counts.  If it rains in the morning and again in the afternoon with a "sun break" in between it qualifies as a "sunny" day.

But it doesn't _always_ rain in the Pacific Northwest.  I was up there for a week in July and it was sunny and warm the whole time.  They usually get at least 2-3 weeks of dry summer weather.

And it snows in the winter.
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Post by: Punomatic on September 18, 2019, 08:38:26 AM
If you are talking about the last week or so, it has been unusually rainy in the PNW for the month of September. My home weather station in the central Willamette Valley (Oregon) has recorded over an inch of rain in the last 6 1/2 hours. We often have warm, sunny weather well into October. The west coast has had several very dry years recently, so we locals are grateful for the rain. Most of California burned up last summer, but they are doing better now, thanks to a good deal of rainfall. Enjoy the greenery in the Evergreen State (Washington); it comes from rain.  :)
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Post by: UTTransplant on September 18, 2019, 10:03:50 AM
We are in Washington now at the Quinault Casino near Ocean Shores (thanks to Jackie and Tony for the recommendation!), looking out at the ocean on the other side of the dunes. Yes, it has been pretty rainy. The forecast for today is pretty good, so we are planning on heading to the beaches today, just to relax. And the area has certainly been in drought. Deciduous trees are turning brown with dryness instead of changing color, and the Hoh rainforest has had about half its normal rainfall.
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Post by: jackiemac on September 18, 2019, 02:25:30 PM
Pam, The buffet food was a lot nicer than I thought and over 50s get cheap deal Wednesday and Thursdays I think before a certain time... Prime rib was good but their pot roast was fantastic!
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Post by: Oldgator73 on September 18, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
“ A lone buffalo is an old man past his prime, no longer allowed to mate and rejected from the group. They are never in a good mood.”

Well, now my wife knows what to call me. I should probably change my name from Oldgator to Lone Buffalo.  Thanks Tom.  >:(
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Post by: SeilerBird on September 18, 2019, 05:12:48 PM
I feel the same way Gator. ???
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Post by: Lynx0849 on September 18, 2019, 06:15:50 PM
What a great adventure. My wife and I are looking forward to a big trip in about 3 years from now.

Black Canyon of the Gunnison is terrific.

Mammoth Cave may need reservations. I didn’t and had to miss it in early July on my way down to Nashville.

One of my favorites is Bryce Canyon.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 20, 2019, 11:21:25 AM
We can't complain too much about the weather since it seems to rain while we're indoors and hasn't impacted us yet. I don't want to jinx myself, but we've been very lucky in that aspect.
Mammoth Cave may need reservations.
Reservations for camping there or reservations to see the actual cave?
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Post by: Isaac-1 on September 20, 2019, 12:04:19 PM
Be aware the ferry at the river crossing in Mammoth Caves national park is closed for construction until later this year.
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Post by: RockyHill on September 20, 2019, 07:12:01 PM
We can't complain too much about the weather since it seems to rain while we're indoors and hasn't impacted us yet. I don't want to jinx myself, but we've been very lucky in that aspect. Reservations for camping there or reservations to see the actual cave?

You might want to look at the web site and decide which tours you want.  I think the more popular ones fill quickly.  Since this has been in your plans for quite a while it would be disappointing to miss.  Probably make the reservations when you know for sure when you will be there.

I don't think there are many sites actually in the park campgrounds with water and electric.  I know you can be self sufficient but you can camp in full service campgrounds nearby and drive to the park.

Shelia (looking forward to meeting you along this part of your travels)
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 20, 2019, 09:25:44 PM
Ok, I'll add it to the calendar to make reservations ahead of time so I remember! Thanks and I'm looking forward to meeting you as well!
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Post by: Lynx0849 on September 21, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
We can't complain too much about the weather since it seems to rain while we're indoors and hasn't impacted us yet. I don't want to jinx myself, but we've been very lucky in that aspect. Reservations for camping there or reservations to see the actual cave?

Sorry. I mean reservations to tour the cave. We thought we could just show up. It might work depending on the time of year. We were there in early July.

Look at the maps closely. The river is a barrier this year I hear. Come in from the I65 side.

I agree with camp nearby then drive in for the tour.

About tours, there are many tours of varying duration and difficulty.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on September 21, 2019, 03:04:12 PM
Sounds good, thanks!
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Post by: ziplock on October 30, 2019, 05:49:25 PM
Amanda,

Are you still in California?  Have you experienced any of the wildfires in your travels in California?

Enjoying your blog and waving at you.
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Post by: Arch Hoagland on October 30, 2019, 08:12:15 PM
ziplock...she's in California between two of the fires.

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,124745.0/topicseen.html


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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on November 03, 2019, 02:39:57 PM
I am, currently in L.A. not too far from the fires. We were a part of the power outages, but being in a motorhome with propane, gas, and batteries, we weren't really effected. We have, at times, smelled the fires and have had ashes rain down on us. There's a glow over the mountains in the direction of the fires as it gets darker out. GPS has rerouted due to "reports of fire" but Idk if those are cars on fire or fire close to the road or what, because the roads are open.
Ps- traffic here is the WORST!!!
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Post by: SLOweather on November 03, 2019, 06:59:29 PM
Like I said, hit, 101 and head for San Luis Obispo County (Pismo Beach, Morro Bay etc.) No fires here, no shutoffs, and pretty decent air quality, considering. traffic should thin out well before Santa Barbara.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on November 03, 2019, 10:38:46 PM
That's the opposite direction we're moving lol, we go from here to San Diego then inland to Joshua Tree and Death Valley.
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Post by: ziplock on November 05, 2019, 04:19:37 PM
You are living large!

I can't wait to see pics from your next destinations.  I read that Joshua Trees will soon be extinct.  Glad you will get to see a real one!  Let me know what the trunk feels like.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on November 06, 2019, 11:26:07 PM
I will! It's funny that you say that because I've loved touching all these new-to-me plants I've come across.
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Post by: jackiemac on November 11, 2019, 12:55:48 AM
That's the opposite direction we're moving lol, we go from here to San Diego then inland to Joshua Tree and Death Valley.
Death Valley is amazing.  What are you planning to do there?
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on November 18, 2019, 05:11:07 PM
I'm not 100% sure, we usually start by visiting a visitor's center and getting a map of the area to at least hit al the "must see" stuff. It'll probably depend on weather and how much time we have there. We were supposed to leave San Diego this morning but my car quit on us and won't be drivable again until tomorrow afternoon so our Joshua Tree/ Death Valley time is being shortened from a full week to 5 days. 
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Post by: jackiemac on November 19, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
I'm not 100% sure, we usually start by visiting a visitor's center and getting a map of the area to at least hit al the "must see" stuff. It'll probably depend on weather and how much time we have there. We were supposed to leave San Diego this morning but my car quit on us and won't be drivable again until tomorrow afternoon so our Joshua Tree/ Death Valley time is being shortened from a full week to 5 days.
Oh no! Plenty to see in both places and I'm sure you'll make the most of it, as usual. I admire your stamina!!

The hike at Zabriskie to Golden Canyon is nice but a long way back up if you dont have 2 cars. The viewpoints are all great though.

Enjoy
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on November 23, 2019, 04:19:02 PM
I added pictures of the second half of CA in my latest blog post. I am so in love with Joshua Tree! It's not somewhere I could live, that sun is intense, but what an awesome place to visit!We decided to slow our pace this weekend because we have a fun packed 3 days ahead with getting up early and getting back late so instead of trying to cram Death Valley in before hitting Vegas, we'll do it the weekend after Thanksgiving. We're staying in Pahrump, so it's not a far drive by car.
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Post by: SeilerBird on November 23, 2019, 05:38:29 PM
When I tell people that Joshua Tree is one of my favorite National Parks most don't believe it because most have never heard of it. Right next to LA and no one knows about it. I have had the entire campground to myself there. It is a magical park.
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Post by: muskoka guy on November 23, 2019, 08:32:36 PM
When I tell people that Joshua Tree is one of my favorite National Parks most don't believe it because most have never heard of it. Right next to LA and no one knows about it. I have had the entire campground to myself there. It is a magical park.
I think those Joshua trees look neat. They look like something out of doctor Seuss.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on November 23, 2019, 10:51:57 PM
I believe it Tom, I really knew nothing about it before researching this trip. Definitely magical, a couple of the kids announced it being in their top 5 list.
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Post by: jackiemac on November 24, 2019, 07:31:11 AM
When I tell people that Joshua Tree is one of my favorite National Parks most don't believe it because most have never heard of it. Right next to LA and no one knows about it. I have had the entire campground to myself there. It is a magical park.
Great photo Tom. We also love Joshua.

I'm interested in what you thought of the condition of the park Amanda, I've heard people say it will take years to recover from the recent shutdown where no-one was looking after the place and people were causing mayhem.
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Post by: ziplock on December 01, 2019, 08:40:51 AM
Hi Rv Mama,

Where are you spending Christmas Eve?

Waving at you.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 07, 2019, 10:37:17 PM
Great photo Tom. We also love Joshua.

I'm interested in what you thought of the condition of the park Amanda, I've heard people say it will take years to recover from the recent shutdown where no-one was looking after the place and people were causing mayhem.
There were many areas being rehabilitated, but it didn't look like it needed to be except for the lack of the smaller plants on the ground in those areas that were likely trampled. I thought it was beautiful and looked so natural, it didn't look like people had done much damage, but I also don't have a "before" with which to compare it.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 07, 2019, 10:39:30 PM
Hi Rv Mama,

Where are you spending Christmas Eve?

Waving at you.
Hi!!! We'll be at a KOA (our first) in Salt Lake City, Utah, for Christmas Eve. Santa coming will be a challenge because I still have a couple believers (I'm not sure if I mentioned it on here before but my kids are developmentally delayed, and they're homeschooled so they don't have that influence.)
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Post by: Arch Hoagland on December 07, 2019, 11:14:19 PM
We stay at that KOA a lot.

You are soooo lucky to be there at Christmas time because you can see the Temple grounds all decorated for Christmas.

Go see the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing. Great.

And remember...If you don't believe in Santa he won't believe in you.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 08, 2019, 03:24:31 AM
We stay at that KOA a lot.

You are soooo lucky to be there at Christmas time because you can see the Temple grounds all decorated for Christmas.

Go see the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing. Great.

And remember...If you don't believe in Santa he won't believe in you.
I'll do that!
Most of our family friends don't do Santa because they're very conservative Christians, I tell my kids he only delivers to believers. I also tell them that I personally believe in Santa but that a lot of people don't. When my son was 13, I found out he still thought Santa was the red suited man as opposed to Mommy because he was having trouble sleeping at night. He didn't know why. I asked him what he thinks about when he lays in bed. He said he's up thinking about, and worrying about, that when he's an old man, he wants to be the next Santa (he saw it in a movie that Santa gets passed down) I'll never forget that year, I had to go make an extra trip to Walmart to buy him an Xbox. We didn't do video games before that and it's all he was asking for. I was done shopping - but with belief like that, I HAD to get him the Xbox lol
We make a habit of doing nice things for people that they'll never know is us, and I explain that those things are Santa too, but they still think red suited guy lol
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Post by: jackiemac on December 08, 2019, 06:24:31 AM
There were many areas being rehabilitated, but it didn't look like it needed to be except for the lack of the smaller plants on the ground in those areas that were likely trampled. I thought it was beautiful and looked so natural, it didn't look like people had done much damage, but I also don't have a "before" with which to compare it.
I did wonder if there was a lit of exaggeration going on. Glad to hear it's still as beautiful.
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Post by: Laura & Charles on December 16, 2019, 05:27:00 AM
As my dad taught it to me: 
First you believe in Santa.
Then you don’t believe in Santa.
Then you become Santa!
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Post by: John From Detroit on December 16, 2019, 05:56:37 AM
When I tell people that Joshua Tree is one of my favorite National Parks most don't believe it because most have never heard of it. Right next to LA and no one knows about it. I have had the entire campground to myself there. It is a magical park.

Most people don't even know what a Joshua Tree is.. .. Been there.  and I agree it's very nice.. Don't really have a 'Favorite" place but that is on the list of places nice to visit.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 16, 2019, 06:25:04 AM
Most people don't even know what a Joshua Tree is.. .. Been there.  and I agree it's very nice.. Don't really have a 'Favorite" place but that is on the list of places nice to visit.
The ironic thing is that a Joshua Tree is not a tree, it is a yucca plant, a cactus. It just looks like a tree and was named by the LDS members almost 200 years ago. I really love JTNP. I love the desert and they have one of the best areas with so many cool rock formations. It is a boulder's paradise. Boulder being a person who loves to climb boulders in preparation for real mountain climbing. And the weather is almost always great there and the crowds are usually non-existent since so few people know about the place.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 11:31:07 AM
Yeah it felt like we were alone in the park. We would really only come across other people, never many, at the major points of interest.
We've since been to Death Valley, Petrified Forest, Mesa Verde, and Arches. Petrified Forest was one of the kids favorites so far, mine was Death Valley. I'm so in awe at the whole place. I knew very little about it, I really only knew about Badwater Basin. I was clueless as to the variety there until I did some mini research on where to go and what to see. It's definitely one of my favorites.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 11:34:15 AM
We're in Moab now, I could easily live here btw, until we can get the slide fixed. We've been without a slide since it broke in the Grand Canyon and Grand Junction Colorado was the closest place I could find to fix it. Everywhere else was either closed for the season (including any mobile mechanics) or didn't do this kind of work or couldn't get me in until January. Hopefully that'll be done tomorrow and we'll head further west through Utah.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 16, 2019, 11:36:53 AM
I love Death Valley too. A lot of people ignore DV because it has a horrible name. The ironic thing is that you could not visit one of the best features in DV, Scotty's Castle. Unfortunately if flooded a few years ago and is currently not open.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 11:43:22 AM
We had to skip a few areas. Scott's Castle and also the race track. The rangers at the visitor center said they heard it snowed there and advised us not to go. They also made it sound like we were asking for a flat tire if we tried. We would have had to add a day there to see it, so we skipped it. Also, Dante's View was closed so we missed that. I'm going to have to make another trip there at some point and stay right in the park, or close to it, instead of an hour away.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 16, 2019, 11:48:03 AM
We had to skip a few areas. Scott's Castle and also the race track. The rangers at the visitor center said they heard it snowed there and advised us not to go. They also made it sound like we were asking for a flat tire if we tried. We would have had to add a day there to see it, so we skipped it. Also, Dante's View was closed so we missed that. I'm going to have to make another trip there at some point and stay right in the park, or close to it, instead of an hour away.
The Race Track is fabulous but it is doubtful you could get there in your car. It an hour drive over very rough unpaved road. Did you visit the Sand Dunes? The Devils Golf Course and Artist Drive? Zabrinski Point? Walk the rim of the Volcano? See the tiny Pup fish? The place is just amazing.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 12:07:58 PM
It's SOOO amazing! We didn't walk the rim of the volcano or see the pup fish. We spent quite a bit of time at the sand dunes, playing, and hiked part of Mosaic Canyon right down the road from the dunes. Artist Drive was spectacular, and we went during sunset which made it that much more awesome. Another one of my favorite spots was 20 Mule Team Canyon, which I was surprised to not see listed on any of the national park's lists of must sees there. I personally thought that was jaw dropping beauty. I really need a full week in the park, what we did was basically a sampling of it just hitting some of the major tourist areas. Pretty much the story of this whole trip. I'm not saying that's a negative, I'm so so blessed to be able to see and do so much, and we're certainly taking advantage of every second, but like you always say Tom, it's a big country and 10 months is such a short amount of time. I literally keep an ongoing list of top places I want to return and further explore. Death Valley being right at the top of the list.
Another area that made that list is the Page Arizona area with Horseshoe Bend and the Wave. I would love to be able to fit that in, but it just isn't going to happen this time around. And it isn't in that immediate area, but Canyon de Chelley which is one area I was most looking forward to and had to miss. I think I need to move to Utah for a year!
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Post by: Lou Schneider on December 16, 2019, 12:21:48 PM
Goosenecks State Park north of Monument Valley has multiple switchback canyons similar to Horseshoe Bend and several natural bridges.  You can boondock in the parking area at the overlook and hike down into the canyons.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 03:47:28 PM
That sounds familiar, I think I saw pictures of it when I was planning. I really do need to move to Utah for a year!
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 16, 2019, 03:58:46 PM
That sounds familiar, I think I saw pictures of it when I was planning. I really do need to move to Utah for a year!
I lived in Utah for three years. It was the worst three years of my life. It is a beautiful state but... go for Nevada or Arizona instead. You didn't even make it to Great Basin NP. It has Lehman Caves which are my favorite caves in the whole country.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 04:16:04 PM
I lived in Utah for three years. It was the worst three years of my life. It is a beautiful state but... go for Nevada or Arizona instead. You didn't even make it to Great Basin NP. It has Lehman Caves which are my favorite caves in the whole country.
What did you hate about it? I was thinking Moab would be a great central point to call home for a year.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 16, 2019, 04:59:01 PM
What did you hate about it? I was thinking Moab would be a great central point to call home for a year.
Flagstaff or Reno would be much better.
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Post by: Isaac-1 on December 16, 2019, 07:03:02 PM
I just had to second Gooseneck State park, best $10 per night campsite we have ever had, of course it is dry camping with only pit toilets and maybe a picnic table (at a few sites, not ours) if you are not self contained.  Attached is a photo of my wife standing outside the door of our coach at our camp site there two months ago.
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Post by: Joezeppy on December 16, 2019, 07:24:30 PM

I lived in Utah for three years. It was the worst three years of my life. It is a beautiful state but...


On our "trip out west" in 2007, after leaving Yellowstone we were supposed to stay in Salt Lake City for 2 days and then Vernal (Dinosaur Monument) for 2 days. We changed plans and skipped Salt Lake for a couple of extra days in Yellowstone and Vernal ended up being a bust (terrible campground and the monument had just recently closed). On top of that my gas-powered truck hated the climb out of Salt Lake up into the mountains. I know Utah has some very nice scenery but I will forever remember it as "Ugh, Utah!". Kim and I both regret not stopping to float in Great Salt Lake.
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Post by: Lou Schneider on December 16, 2019, 08:06:49 PM
Attached is a photo of my wife standing outside the door of our coach at our camp site there two months ago.

That's a front door view to die for!
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 08:39:46 PM
Isaac- Beautiful!
Tom- I could live in Reno too, but I want to explore this area for a while. But I dream of Reno some day too lol
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 16, 2019, 08:53:05 PM
I could live in Reno too, but I want to explore this area for a while. But I dream of Reno some day too lol

I've seemed to have noticed a tread with you...Based on your post and your desire to live in most of the places you have visited.

I would suggest you retire early so you can spend those extra years living in all the places that you like.

Based on the number of places so far....You need to retire by Feb. 2 2002.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 16, 2019, 09:44:32 PM
I've seemed to have noticed a tread with you...Based on your post and your desire to live in most of the places you have visited.

I would suggest you retire early so you can spend those extra years living in all the places that you like.

Based on the number of places so far....You need to retire by Feb. 2 2002.
And I need to live in good health until the approximate age of 372. Maybe I should have had the organic pizza tonight 😂

But you're right, I want to live in Michigan, Washington, and Utah now lol
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Post by: Lou Schneider on December 16, 2019, 11:02:30 PM
But you're right, I want to live in Michigan, Washington, and Utah now lol

That's why a lot of us are Fulltimers.  But we don't try and see the whole country in 10 months.   ;)
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 17, 2019, 12:47:39 AM
That's why a lot of us are Fulltimers.  But we don't try and see the whole country in 10 months.   ;)
Lol yeah this is a one time trip, if I was going full time, I would take my time. I would love to go full time. Whose idea was it to have kids anyway?! Lol, maybe in 10 years. My youngest is 12 in a month.
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 19, 2019, 07:13:42 PM
Update- my slide is fixed, my water pump is brand new and installed, all the other little things are fixed and we're on the road! Now in Green River Utah for the night and heading to Capitol Reef in the morning!
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Post by: Arch Hoagland on December 19, 2019, 07:15:43 PM
Thanks for the update, glad to hear all is well.
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 19, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
Update- my slide is fixed, my water pump is brand new and installed, all the other little things are fixed and we're on the road! Now in Green River Utah for the night and heading to Capitol Reef in the morning!


 :)) :))

Would you hate me if I started a pool on whats going to break next.. ;) ;)
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 19, 2019, 11:17:52 PM

 :)) :))

Would you hate me if I started a pool on whats going to break next.. ;) ;)
Not if I won the pool! Lol
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 24, 2019, 11:48:08 AM
Not if I won the pool! Lol

Of course your going to win :) ....And the grand prize is a case of Corn Dogs.  ;D ;D
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Post by: Oldgator73 on December 24, 2019, 02:57:03 PM
Of course your going to win :) ....And the grand prize is a case of Corn Dogs.  ;D ;D

Or alligator tenders.
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 24, 2019, 07:00:29 PM
Of course your going to win :) ....And the grand prize is a case of Corn Dogs.  ;D ;D

Or alligator tenders.

Hey you got gator in my Corn Dog.......Hey this is good.  Corn Gators on a stick.

OldGator we are going to be rich ;D ;D
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Post by: SLOweather on December 24, 2019, 07:08:53 PM
Here ya go. My Christmas present to you... Alligator hot dogs.

https://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/Alligator-Hot-Dogs-for-sale-Alligator-Meat-p/alligator114.htm

All ya need is a fryer, some batter and a stick...
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 24, 2019, 07:16:16 PM
Here ya go. My Christmas present to you... Alligator hot dogs.

https://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/Alligator-Hot-Dogs-for-sale-Alligator-Meat-p/alligator114.htm

All ya need is a fryer, some batter and a stick...

It may be time to come out of retirement ;D
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Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 25, 2019, 02:18:32 PM
I passed a place in Salt Lake City the other day selling beef jerky and alligator jerky. I laughed and thought of you guys lol, it was so unexpected in UTAH!
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Post by: Arch Hoagland on December 25, 2019, 03:27:33 PM
I passed a place in Salt Lake City the other day selling beef jerky and alligator jerky. I laughed and thought of you guys lol, it was so unexpected in UTAH!

I lived in Salt Lake City from 1968 to 1970. They had a meat store downtown that only sold horse meat. Fellow worker used to buy it all the time.

I never tried it. 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on December 25, 2019, 04:30:00 PM
Amanda, If you make it to SW Louisiana on this trip let me know, and I will direct you to some good places to eat where you can try Alligator, along with a lot of other good Cajun food.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 26, 2019, 11:56:59 AM
I couldn't eat horse, to me that's the same category as dog.

I'll be driving through From Houston to New Orleans, I'm not opposed to stopping along the way!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on December 26, 2019, 12:38:49 PM
If you are taking I-10 I can make a couple of recommendations that are close to the highway, though only one comes to mind with potential RV+toad parking nearby.  If you are going to take a more scenic route, such as along the coast where you are much more likely to see alligators in the wild, etc. let me know and I can make some suggestions that way too.

Assuming you will be on I-10 my primary suggestion is Hollier's in Sulphur, here is a streetview of their parking lot https://goo.gl/maps/srSx1ay3P3emyru4A  as you can see there is a school bus in their overflow parking here.  As long as you don't show up at prime dining hours you should be able to get a parking spot with the coach.  There is also a former hardware store on the next block south which likely has ample parking.   Holliers has a good cajun buffet, but the best stuff is ordered off the menu, this is a working class cajun place, but has very good food, you will often see petrochem plant workers here on their lunch break. 

Next suggestions assume you will likely need a TOAD to get to, Don's Specialty Meats, Rayne, LA, this is primarily a meat market, though they do have a small cafe, great place to stock up on cajun meat items, boudin, stuffed pork chops, etc.  Access in the coach is possible depending on how busy they are, they have a parking lot just past the building on the frontage road.


Pat's on the Wharf in Henderson, historical cajun restaurant, founded in the 1950's and had a certain degree of national fame  50+ years ago.  It is a couple of miles off I-10 and parking would likely be TOAD only.  Prices are also a bit higher, but even so when I am in the area I will tend to splurge a bit and eat there.


p.s. if you want to spend the night near Lake Charles, several of the local parks have RV sites for $12 per night.  I might suggest Intracoastal park about 12 miles south of Sulphur as it is on the Intracoastal water way and you can watch barges pass by.  White Oak park is another option just east of Lake Charles, it is only 4-5 miles off I-10.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 26, 2019, 09:04:19 PM
Awesome!!! Thank you!!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on December 26, 2019, 09:32:08 PM
One note on visiting Louisiana about the food, there are 2 different types of food Louisiana is famous for,  Cajun Food and Creole Food.  They are NOT the same thing, though a number of them share the same names, for example Creole Gumbo and Cajun Gumbo taste completely different, for one thing Creole Gumbo contains tomatoes, and Cajun Gumbo does not.  It is also very hard to find real Cajun food in New Orleans, almost all food you find in restaurants in New Orleans will be Creole, or perhaps some sort of Creole mashup.  About the only authentic Cajun restaurant I can think of that is in New Orleans is Mulates https://mulates.com/ which open a location in New Orleans about 15 years ago.  (since then their original location in Breaux Bridge closed due to storm damage from one of the hurricanes about 10 or so years ago).

For a write up on the differences between cajun and creole see this link https://www.louisianatravel.com/articles/cajun-vs-creole-food-what-difference

See this link https://www.louisianatravel.com/articles/cajun-vs-creole-food-what-difference

Though the above is still an over-simplificaiton, as anyone versed in the two types of cuisine can generally tell with just one bite if it is cajun or creole, to put it simple, creole food flavor tends to have a much sharper bite to it, and uses a different blend of spices.  Much like one can often tell the difference between Italian food from Greek food with just one bite.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Old_Crow on December 27, 2019, 05:41:34 AM
Just a little south of Issac's recommendations, in the town of New Iberia, there's the Bon Creole Seafood restaurant. 
The best shrimp po' boys ever. 
Another plus is that it's close to Avery Island, which is home to the Tabasco factory along with a botanical garden and bird sanctuary that was started by the Mcllhenny family.  Pretty sure the kids will like the tour of the factory, and it's possible to spot an occasional 'gator during the drive through of the botanical gardens, although we didn't see any either time we were there.
There's also a couple of good swamp tours in the area.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on December 27, 2019, 11:17:49 AM
Old_Crow said:
"Another plus is that it's close to Avery Island, which is home to the Tabasco factory"

Really neat place. You will smell Tabasco in the air a half mile away from it.

 Bon Creole Seafood restaurant looks awful but the food is REALLY GOOD.  The place is usually packed with locals.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on December 27, 2019, 12:47:52 PM
Interesting, I know nothing about that so that was educational for me. My kids eat Tabasco like water, so we'll HAVE to go there!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on December 27, 2019, 01:49:48 PM
If you opt for the Tabasco factory being a mid-day stop there is RV parking at the visitor center, however Jungle Gardens (next door) is drive through in car only though they do allow larger vehicles in, about half the driving loop is limited to smaller cars, even full size pickup trucks have difficulty.  The Tabasco factory tour is also better on week days when the production line is up and going.      Note on entering Avery Island there is a toll booth where you must stop and pay a dollar or so if memory serves, the money goes to supporting the private roads.  There is also a gift shop next to the Tabasco visitor center which has all sorts of Tabasco products you never knew existed, Tabasco cola, Tabasco ice cream, as well as dozens if not hundreds of types of Tabasco sauces, dips, etc (Hot Mustard, Raspberry, Smoked, etc.).  When we were last there a year ago I think we spent $50 on sauces and such in the gift shop.

p.s. chances of seeing alligators depends on the weather when you arrive, they are often not very active in January and February, though you do see the occasional one on warmer days.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Arch Hoagland on December 27, 2019, 04:35:09 PM
https://www.conradrice.com/contact-us/tour/ 

There is a Rice Mill in New Iberria that gives tours. Kinda neat to see.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Old_Crow on December 28, 2019, 05:19:42 AM
That's it!  If I get this house thing wrapped up in a timely fashion, so that we don't have to race back across country to get to our summer job, we're headed to LA first.  We'll probably stay at Lake Fausse Pointe state park.



Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on December 28, 2019, 10:44:35 AM
Old_Crow, if you can't get in there consider Palmetto Island State Park, it is a nice little state park south of Abbeville.  Nice campground, with dense vegetation between the sites, though mosquitoes can be a issue in warmer weather, only bad thing I can say about the campground there is they are all back in sites.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Old_Crow on December 29, 2019, 09:07:50 AM
Old_Crow, if you can't get in there consider Palmetto Island State Park, it is a nice little state park south of Abbeville.  Nice campground, with dense vegetation between the sites, though mosquitoes can be a issue in warmer weather, only bad thing I can say about the campground there is they are all back in sites.

That might satisfy my wife's desire to "go somewhere different"  ;)  Pretty sure mosquitoes won't be a problem in Jan or Feb.  We have to be back in the Bishop, CA area around the end of March.

We actually had an invitation to host there about 4 years ago, but before we could finalize the deal we got the offer with RRM at the north rim of the Grand Canyon.  Having lived in Arizona a couple of times in our past life, we jumped at the chance to go back.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on December 29, 2019, 10:03:32 AM
You should be good, though we have been experiencing a very warm December here with highs in the 70's much of the time, after some early season freezes in October and early November.  We have spent the first weekend of February at Palmetto Island State park the last 2 years, and both times we had highs of around 80F with night time lows in the 50's to 60's.   A couple of things about the park, first off on the first Saturday of the month most months the local dutch oven cooking club does a sampler lunch, (they ask for a small donation, and run a raffle), you can check the friends of the park facebook page of the calendar.  Second they have nice laundry / shower rooms, with free washing machines and dryers, they also have free wifi in the campground, but it is so slow as to be useless (think 5 minutes to load a simple page, except at 3 am when it is 1 minute).  Also be aware some of the secondary highways near there are is awful shape, so be aware of this if you try to take a shortcut to get there, the best road option to get there form the north is to take either US90 or US167 south out of Lafayette, to LA14 then across to LA82 in Abbeville then south to the road that leads into Palmetto Island State park.  West of Abbeville LA14 starts alternating between new pavement and nearly washboard conditions, the last 2 times I went down there it was so bad it shook screws loose from my motorhome some of which were holding my headlight bezels on.

Hwys 35, 13, and 26 south of I10 are all marginal to poor at least in significant stretches, US90 is a longer drive than US167, but is more open highway with far fewer traffic lights and city traffic.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on February 04, 2020, 08:22:29 AM
I forget to update on here, we made it through New Mexico at the end of the year. Although we entered Texas at the Guadalupe Mountains and went to Big Bend, San Antonio, Houston, and Galveston, there's so so much of Texas we left unexplored so I think I need to spend a whole winter there in the future. Maybe on round 2 lol. We spent time in New Orleans, but I would like to return there on an adult trip at some point as well. We went through Mississippi, Alabama, and down the west coast of Florida. In a few days we'll start heading up the east coast of Florida.
As a whole, things are going well. We're all still getting along and loving the trip, although we had a very rough day back in November that rocked the boat. If we didn't strangle each other that day, I'm confident we never will lol
We've hit some minor bumps in the road, 3 flat tires on the car, 3 new tires on the 2 tire tow dolly, a broken slide motor and cable, a second broken slide motor, a broken water pump, clogged toiletS (this is an ongoing issue) and little cosmetic things inside.
My very close friend at home is very sick with cancer and Crohn's and I hate not being there for her. I miss my boyfriend and my dog. If it weren't for those things (and the fact that my kids would object) I could stay on the road forever. I really like this and would love to do year 2 in the future.
But we're on schedule and on budget and more than 6 months in now. Just under 4 months to go.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on February 04, 2020, 10:12:14 PM
Good to hear your still on the move...What are your plans after FL?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on February 05, 2020, 08:34:51 AM
Be careful with Texas in the winter. We lived in San Antonio for 6 years. One February it was 100 degrees while another February Texas had the worst ice storm ever. My wife’s father died and we almost didn’t make it of town due to ice and power outages. Power was out from Houston all the way across Louisiana. Flash floods can be bad too. Having said that, Texas has a lot to offer. There is a lot to explore.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on February 08, 2020, 07:33:23 AM
After Florida we're heading north along the coast of Georgia then moving inland: Nashville, Memphis, ARKANSAS, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky, then heading back to follow the coast north. 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on February 08, 2020, 08:17:39 AM
Amanda, you need to plan another trip to see all of the deep south you are missing on this one.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on February 08, 2020, 10:10:39 AM
After Florida we're heading north along the coast of Georgia then moving inland: Nashville, Memphis, ARKANSAS, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky, then heading back to follow the coast north.

 :)) :))

Enjoy FL as long as you can...It'still cold up here...LOL
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Old_Crow on February 09, 2020, 03:10:38 AM
:)) :))

Enjoy FL as long as you can...It'still cold up here...LOL

Hey, yesterday was beautiful here at Old Post park in Dardanelle.  Too bad my wife and I both had a bunch of teeth pulled Thursday and we're both in so much misery we couldn't enjoy it.  Supposed to be cloudy again today, I guess.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on February 09, 2020, 06:59:58 AM
There's a TON of stuff I'm missing! I definitely need to do something like this again in the future, 10 months isn't nearly long enough.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on February 09, 2020, 07:59:27 AM
There's a TON of stuff I'm missing! I definitely need to do something like this again in the future, 10 months isn't nearly long enough.

"Fearless Women Club" has a spot reserved for You, Momma6, for sure.

Congrats on your Bucket list / Adventures of a lifetime. 

Enjoy every day!   
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: ziplock on March 01, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
Well, when you were in Florida, did you stop by Seilerbird's?

Waving at you!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 01, 2020, 08:51:25 PM
Well, when you were in Florida, did you stop by Seilerbird's?

Waving at you!
We planned on it but then he wasn't feeling well and had to cancel. I did meet up with another forum member, Charles, and his wife Laura, in Tampa.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on March 02, 2020, 05:06:52 AM
Well, when you were in Florida, did you stop by Seilerbird's?

Waving at you!
We were going to meet up at Gatorland but I was not feeling well and I did not want to take to chance of exposing the herd to whatever I had. Huge disapointment.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on March 02, 2020, 10:31:44 AM
We were going to meet up at Gatorland but I was not feeling well and I did not want to take to chance of exposing the herd to whatever I had. Huge disapointment.

SB Hopefully you're over the funk and you were referring to as a past condition. 

Nothing like a potential $25 Google Fi, rebate for friends joining to rally you to better health, to keep you hanging around.   :)

May today find you in a Better place, my friend.

JD 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Laura & Charles on March 02, 2020, 01:34:05 PM
We’ll have been at it 4 years come June... still much to see.  We’ve never done it at the pace you have been going... we’re planning our second tour out west starting this summer/fall.
Great seeing you and you crew in Tampa as well as in the UP last September.  We’re going to be meandering our way back to Ohio 4/1-4/4... if you’re still in KY then, perhaps we’ll come to you this time.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 02, 2020, 04:58:38 PM
We were going to meet up at Gatorland but I was not feeling well and I did not want to take to chance of exposing the herd to whatever I had. Huge disapointment.

I have many friends and family members incarcerated at Gatorland.  :'(
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on March 03, 2020, 05:57:41 AM
I have many friends and family members incarcerated at Gatorland.  :'(

Lord Gator,  You left out the part about yourself being out on weekend Furlough.   ;)

We just call it "Working for the State" down in these parts. 

Loved the exhibit of the Albino Gator there at Gator Land. 

I wonder if any parents ever threw their kids in the big pond for misbehaving? (Not Really- Don't shoot!  ;D)

BTW... I hear you Brother.  Life throws us some curves sometimes. 

Life is good.   

 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 03, 2020, 07:21:50 AM
Lord Gator,  You left out the part about yourself being out on weekend Furlough.   ;)

We just call it "Working for the State" down in these parts. 


Being a Lord I was allowed work release. I am now in the witness protection program. Oldgator is not my real name. Somebody’s at the door. I have to get to the safe room.  8)
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on March 03, 2020, 12:23:07 PM
Being a Lord I was allowed work release. I am now in the witness protection program. Oldgator is not my real name. Somebody’s at the door. I have to get to the safe room.  8)
No, its Youngator!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 03, 2020, 02:40:00 PM
No, its Youngator!

You’re too nice Jackie. They say you are as young as you feel. I surely hope not.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 03, 2020, 05:05:01 PM
Lol you guys crack me up!
I'm just popping on real quick to let you know that we were in Nashville and are completely safe and we're heading to Memphis.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on March 03, 2020, 05:08:09 PM
Lol you guys crack me up!
I'm just popping on real quick to let you know that we were in Nashville and are completely safe and we're heading to Memphis.
Stop getting into trouble Amanda! Stay safe and keep a close eye on the weather!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on March 03, 2020, 06:57:13 PM
Glad to hear you are safe, my wife was at a conference in Nashville last week, she left there to head home Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on March 04, 2020, 06:29:03 AM
Ditto on all the Weather stuff Momma. 

Nashville is Notorious for night time Tornados (Historically). 

Make sure you throw a eyeball on the weather forecast before you and your pack get horizontal for the evening. 

Don't Fool/Mess with Mother Nature (Forgot how the cliche goes). 

She can be the meanest Momma Out there!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: workingtorv on March 04, 2020, 10:40:49 AM
Lol you guys crack me up!
I'm just popping on real quick to let you know that we were in Nashville and are completely safe and we're heading to Memphis.

I have been following your blog since the start and ma enjoying your trip so much.

I’m sad to hear you didn’t get to meet Tom in FLA but so kind of him not to want to spread anything with you and the children.

So so glad to see you posted that you were all okay in Nashville.

Enjoy the next segment.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 25, 2020, 06:31:15 PM
I am sad to announce that we will be cutting our trip short and returning home on or around April 1. Lots of reasons for this, but mainly because corona has closed everything. I'm having a hard time finding affordable RV parks that aren't closing to over nighters. They're fine with monthly rentals or seasonals but not one night or a week. I'll be updating my blog as soon as I get the chance with more details, but it's a fairly high chance right now that we're going to head back.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 25, 2020, 06:37:17 PM
That’s too bad Amanda. I know you and your kids must be really disappointed. Our whole vacation was cancelled due to the pandemic. I think I remember you said your house was rented. Is that going to be a problem for you?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Tom and Margi on March 25, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
I'm sorry, Amanda, and I know you and the kids are disappointed.  As usual, you're making a really good Mom decision.  I hope you will be able to resume your adventures when this is all over.  I have enjoyed every blog entry and picture you have posted.  Good job, Mama!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on March 25, 2020, 07:24:32 PM
I am sorry to hear this, but I do have to wonder if there may be better places for you to ride out the next month or so until your house is vacant than upstate New York.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on March 25, 2020, 08:23:04 PM
I don't suppose you would like to make a u-turn and return to our home.....I could get a lot of work out of 6 kids.(Including washing my truck)

In return I can offer Danna's cooking and lots of fishing for the kids..After the chores are done.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: workingtorv on March 25, 2020, 11:03:57 PM
Amanda I was checking your blog and haven’t seen an update and wondered where you were.

From what I read NY is overcome with the virus but not sure if your area is that bad.

It’s very unfortunate but you can’t continue the way it is and how things do much from day to day. Where will you go if your house is rented out.

Safe travels. 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Ernie n Tara on March 26, 2020, 02:18:10 PM
^^^^^ What he said! In any event settle down in one place until your house is available. It's the right thing to do!

Ernie
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on March 26, 2020, 06:07:40 PM
I have to wonder if you could find some commercial rv park / campground that has a lot of open space, perhaps beachfront somewhere to give the kids some elbow room, until you can get back to your house.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 26, 2020, 10:46:24 PM
I'm definitely disappointed, but I'm very thankful that we got to do the parts of our trip that we were most excited about. The part we're missing is the east coast, most of which we've been to in the past. We will possibly do a mini version of it next summer. We'll see. I'm very much looking forward to seeing my dog and being home in other ways.

I do have renters in my house right now. I rented out rooms instead of the whole house so the laws are a little different. One is willing to leave, he has somewhere to go so he'll be out in a week. I told him he could stay, he said, no problem, he can go. As for the other one, she's been a nightmare tenant all along. She isn't responding to texts or emails and isn't paying. I can't evict her over non payment, but I CAN move in and make her prefer to leave. I'm not telling her I'm coming home so that she doesn't do something stupid like change the locks. I'm going to show up, tell her I assumed she moved out, and go from there. She has 3 bedrooms, so I think she would probably rather leave than share a bedroom with all 3 people because we will be occupying the others.

Gizmo, with food like that, it's a hard offer to pass up!!!

Yes there is corona in my city and even in my neighborhood, as per a breakdown in the local news by neighborhood. I think this thing is going to be around for a while, so I don't think it's too different than going home in 2 more months. I hope I'm wrong and in 2 months it's wiped out, but I doubt it. We'll be super careful, not fearful, but smart, and we do live near some great health care facilities. We will probably also be spending quite a bit of time at our other property in the middle of nowhere. It's where I keep our TT and Ace (and my pop up lol) so corona isn't there yet as far as I know.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SeilerBird on March 27, 2020, 03:45:40 AM
Amanda - when you move in start setting up a quarantine station for one of your "sick" kids. That is why you came home. I bet the cow moves in a hurry.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on March 27, 2020, 04:43:53 AM
Amanda - when you move in start setting up a quarantine station for one of your "sick" kids. That is why you came home. I bet the cow moves in a hurry.

SB,

LOL.  Yes...Love it. 

Momma, Let me add,..

for all kids in you pack to come in the house Coughing. 

Tyvex suits and masks would add to the flair. ;)

More dramatic... 

The kid playing the victim well.... spritz him or her down with a water bottle for that Sweat and wet hair effect. 

Have one fake call 911, then You need to start going into a rant about a 2 day 911 response time....

With all those in your pack....you know how to "Rant", I am sure.  ;D

(Be loud, obnoxious,  rant about Sick Kids and being cooped up in that RV, couple of uncovered coughs won't hurt either). 

Note: If you were a  male I would throw in to don't forget to scratch and spit somewhere. <<Never Mind...Skip this step.

It would be priceless to see the look on that person's face.

What you don't want is a response of them coughing in your face and saying that is OK, I have Coronavirus too...COUGH, COUGH.

In all the craziness...A Smile, a laugh, or now a virtual 5 Five, does the soul good.   :)

Thanks Tom/(SB).   ;D

JD

 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 27, 2020, 10:51:07 AM
Amanda - when you move in start setting up a quarantine station for one of your "sick" kids. That is why you came home. I bet the cow moves in a hurry.
Lmao that's perfect! Lol, at the risk of sounding like a witch, I am very capable of making her want out asap. She has to work, I don't. I can use up quite a bit of bathroom time, hours even, before she goes to work. There's only 1 bathroom in the whole 3,960 square foot house lol. I'm looking forward to seeing what she has in the fridge for us. This is a woman who, I'm not kidding here, dead serious, sent me a bill for her laundry detergent, hand soap, and hundreds of dollars of other toiletries when she moved in. I can't wait to use her toilet paper lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 27, 2020, 12:09:22 PM
And in case there was any doubt, I'm not too prideful to use someone else's deodorant lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 27, 2020, 12:14:01 PM
And in case there was any doubt, I'm not too prideful to use someone else's deodorant lol

I’ve been known to wear my wife’s underwear...when she’s not home.  8)
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 27, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
I’ve been known to wear my wife’s underwear...when she’s not home.  8)
That's a whole other thread! Lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on March 27, 2020, 03:18:52 PM
I’ve been known to wear my wife’s underwear...when she’s not home.  8)

Throwing a Penalty Flag.  15 Yard'r  ;D

Crazy aXs!

JD
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: IBTripping on March 27, 2020, 06:40:06 PM
I’ve been known to wear my wife’s underwear...when she’s not home.  8)

EEK!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on March 27, 2020, 09:11:49 PM
That's a whole other thread! Lol
EEK!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been known to wear my wife’s underwear...when she’s not home.  8)

Now everyone calm down at least he's wearing underwear....... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 27, 2020, 09:15:44 PM
Now everyone calm down at least he's wearing underwear....... ;D ;D ;D

Not right now. Wanna see?  :-*
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on March 27, 2020, 10:56:00 PM
Not right now. Wanna see?  :-*

It may be time to lock this thread ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on March 28, 2020, 04:04:02 PM
Not right now. Wanna see?  :-*
🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gene50 on March 28, 2020, 06:47:53 PM
I get the feeling that this thread has been LOW-jacked..........
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 28, 2020, 07:22:00 PM
I get the feeling that this thread has been LOW-jacked..........

I’ve got friends in low places.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Boat Addict on March 28, 2020, 08:12:53 PM
I’ve been known to wear my wife’s underwear...when she’s not home.  8)
That's cruel.. Why would you send your wife out without her undies? Didn't your Mother tell you that everyone should always have clean undies on just in case you get in a car wreck.  :P
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Oldgator73 on March 28, 2020, 08:35:17 PM
That's cruel.. Why would you send your wife out without her undies? Didn't your Mother tell you that everyone should always have clean undies on just in case you get in a car wreck.  :P

She’s got more than one pair. I give her a generous panty budget. Dad gum near as much as my liquor budget.  8)
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 30, 2020, 02:25:57 PM
I don't why I thought driving home would go smoothly.
I'm so close, in Cleveland. Only 253 miles away.
And I need a new tire. I was hoping to cross the NY border by tonight. Guess not.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on March 30, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
I don't why I thought driving home would go smoothly.
I'm so close, in Cleveland. Only 253 miles away.
And I need a new tire. I was hoping to cross the NY border by tonight. Guess not.

I think you know what I'm thinking.......
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 30, 2020, 04:38:28 PM
I think you know what I'm thinking.......
Believe me, "stop breaking stuff" rings in my head constantly lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on March 30, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
I think you know what I'm thinking.......
Buy a lottery ticket?  🤪🤪
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on March 30, 2020, 05:52:47 PM
Buy a lottery ticket?  🤪🤪

A good idea ......But not quite.

Believe me, "stop breaking stuff" rings in my head constantly lol

Ding Ding Ding ...we have a winner ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SpencerPJ on March 30, 2020, 06:00:16 PM
I don't why I thought driving home would go smoothly.
I'm so close, in Cleveland. Only 253 miles away.
And I need a new tire. I was hoping to cross the NY border by tonight. Guess not.
Glad you caught it and aren't roadside  :))
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on March 30, 2020, 06:01:44 PM
Glad you caught it and aren't roadside  :))
Meeeeee toooooo! I'm sure THAT would have come with damage too.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on March 31, 2020, 06:35:49 AM
Meeeeee toooooo! I'm sure THAT would have come with damage too.

Ninja Blender spinning, blown tire, Steel Belts -vs- Particle Board and Plastic in a sXit whipping contest.

And the Winner is?...You!

Good Eye for catching that Before it became a -$$ Bad day, best case.

Have them Young 'En-s...

Wash Their Patties!

Stay Safe.

JD
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 01, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
I'm home.
My house is completely trashed.
Luckily I have 30 days to work on it uninterrupted.
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Post by: Oldgator73 on April 01, 2020, 01:50:50 PM
I'm home.
My house is completely trashed.
Luckily I have 30 days to work on it uninterrupted.

Renters suck. I’ll never have another rental house.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on April 01, 2020, 03:10:20 PM
Glad you made it and keep us updated.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 01, 2020, 03:36:37 PM
I'm home.
My house is completely trashed.
Luckily I have 30 days to work on it uninterrupted.
That's what I feared. I take it the lady in question has left?

Hope it doesn't take that long to sort it and that your helpers don't mind the challenge.

Glad you got home safely. Stay healthy!

Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 01, 2020, 04:30:19 PM
That's what I feared. I take it the lady in question has left?

Hope it doesn't take that long to sort it and that your helpers don't mind the challenge.

Glad you got home safely. Stay healthy!
The term "lady" is a stretch, but yes. They spent 5 hours with a team of people moving out. She was very very angry and the police had to come twice. The first time because she told me I couldn't be there. But because I rented her rooms in the house and not the whole house, I can. She got aggressive with the police and her boyfriend showed up and was almost arrested. The second time was because the other girl charged at me like a line backer. The police came and her mom said I was trying to push her out the door so the daughter attacked me. Then the daughter told her I punched the mom in the head. So they forgot to get their stories straight before the police got here and it didn't work out in her favor. She was yelling at the police and making quite a scene.
It's been very dramatic, but all her stuff is out of the house and on the driveway so other than being a pain because I can't go back and forth from the RV to move my stuff in, she's almost out of my hair.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Gizmo100 on April 01, 2020, 04:42:05 PM
The term "lady" is a stretch, but yes. They spent 5 hours with a team of people moving out. She was very very angry and the police had to come twice. The first time because she told me I couldn't be there. But because I rented her rooms in the house and not the whole house, I can. She got aggressive with the police and her boyfriend showed up and was almost arrested. The second time was because the other girl charged at me like a line backer. The police came and her mom said I was trying to push her out the door so the daughter attacked me. Then the daughter told her I punched the mom in the head. So they forgot to get their stories straight before the police got here and it didn't work out in her favor. She was yelling at the police and making quite a scene.
It's been very dramatic, but all her stuff is out of the house and on the driveway so other than being a pain because I can't go back and forth from the RV to move my stuff in, she's almost out of my hair.

Why this is better than the afternoon soaps...Glad your getting rid of her.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SpencerPJ on April 01, 2020, 04:50:43 PM
Damn, this whole last 8 months could be a blockbuster movie for you.  I told you to contact Hollywood before you departed, you'd be rich, I say, rich.   ;D ;D ;D

Glad you are home, stock up on food, it's going to be a rough couple weeks I fear.  Stay safe  :))
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 01, 2020, 06:39:28 PM
That sounds absolutely horrendous!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 01, 2020, 07:28:31 PM
There are chunks out of the walls, one bedroom wall she used to put her cigarettes out. There were thick cobwebs all over the windows and areas of the wall. There was uncovered cooked food in pots and pans all over the kitchen that looked like they had been there quite a while. The fridge was also full of uncovered food that looked inedible. I washed the windows and a thick layer of black came off all of them. There are tiles ripped up off the bathroom floor. The toilet seat cover is gone. I'm pretty sure the toilet hasn't been cleaned either. My clothes dryer is broken. The hardwood floors throughout the 100 year old house that has survived 29 kids living here in the past 17 years since I bought the house are now all gauged and covered in paint splashes. My couch is torn apart literally to the wood frame underneath. You can't even sit on it. I can't imagine living like that much less doing that to someone else's house. Total pigs.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 01, 2020, 07:30:05 PM
Oh and they just got the last load of stuff so it's 8:30 and they are officially gone!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Isaac-1 on April 01, 2020, 07:52:17 PM
It could have been much worse, my mother in law inherited a house in a neighboring small town about 15 years ago, she rented it out for a few years to a number of people, before giving up and selling it cheap.  It was a basic older house built about 100 years ago, as I recall it had 2 bed rooms, 1 bathroom, and an enclosed back porch that had been converted to a larger family room.

Some the highlights of various renters were one man using the free standing washing machine / water heater shed as an archery practice target the day after the couple moved in, this resulted in a broken water pipe, and no hot water to the house.  Oh did I mention this couple had asked to move in 2 weeks early, for free, because they arrived in town before their new job started.

The final straw that made her decide to sell was a call from the police about the front door being broken in.  As it turns out the guy that was renting the place had lost his job a couple of months earlier, the power had been cut off for over a month, and he had been using a kerosene heater indoors to stay warm (this was in south Louisiana, just outside of Lake Charles, so it rarely gets below freezing for long in the winters), this of course left soot stains on the ceiling, and kerosene stains on the carpet where he spilled it while refueling.  Eventually one day he lost his key to the house, so he kicked in the front door, that is when the police noticed.   After he was evicted they ended up having to replace the carpet, both the front and back doors (he had kicked it in at some point too, then boarded it up), and re do the ceilings.  Of also they did not even open the refrigerator which had been left full of food for over a month without power, they just duct taped it shut and threw it away.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 01, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
Oh no! Lol I guess maybe I'm lucky, it could always be worse, and I'm one to look at the positive side of things. I actually enjoyed cleaning it because it was so bad that I really felt all my progress lol, more satisfaction than cleaning and not seeing a difference lol
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: IBTripping on April 01, 2020, 09:05:01 PM
Tough situation, but you did get rid of an atrocious renter. Best wishes!!!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Roy M on April 01, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
That is a brutal homecoming but at least you are rid of her. And you have a freshly decorated house. I would hate to be a landlord, I have rented for many years and saw some doozies.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Lynx0849 on April 01, 2020, 11:26:34 PM
You may have a case for criminal charges. Certainly civil ones.

I hope you took pictures when you got home in case you need to file insurance claims in the future.

Good riddance to her.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: SpencerPJ on April 02, 2020, 06:49:29 AM
You may have a case for criminal charges. Certainly civil ones.
Ya, good luck collecting.  Sounds like a crackhead. 
The important thing is: You have a standing house, and space for these times.  Kids have rooms, showers, of I bet they sit on the jon for an hour and do their homework.  hehe.  Good luck with your fixes. 
ps: what's wrong with the dryer? they are usually simple to fix.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: John Stephens on April 02, 2020, 10:21:19 AM
Amanda, I am so sorry to hear about what you came back to after running into the virus while on the road and having to cut your trip short. This is the last thing you need after the nerves of the trip with all the closings around the country.

Your experience tells me I make the correct decision of not renting out my house regardless of how long I am going to be away from it.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: ArdraF on April 02, 2020, 05:34:25 PM
So glad to hear you made it home.  Nothing like a little excitement to end a trip - but it all sounds fixable which is good.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 02, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
We're happy, we have the house back, we have our dog back, we bought 3 shopping carts worth of food so we can avoid the stores for as long as possible and picked up paint while we were at Walmart so we'll paint and get it back to normal. I also ordered a bunch of stuff on Amazon (like curtains and a shower curtain) to complete the process.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 03, 2020, 06:05:34 PM
We're happy, we have the house back, we have our dog back, we bought 3 shopping carts worth of food so we can avoid the stores for as long as possible and picked up paint while we were at Walmart so we'll paint and get it back to normal. I also ordered a bunch of stuff on Amazon (like curtains and a shower curtain) to complete the process.

Reminds me of this

https://youtu.be/mEj4_iN1tiw

Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 04, 2020, 12:22:25 AM
Lol lol, pretty much!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on April 04, 2020, 06:50:55 AM
Lol lol, pretty much!

Momma,

One of the positives of being back at the house is, you have a whole bunch of live in Gardener's and House Keeping Help. 

Don't be posting no pictures of yourself wearing any gardening or dishes gloves.   ;)

Those kids will be Thanking You, for the rest of their lives.  Literally.. in their great thoughts, "Bank of Memories."  Great memories are the best.

Trust me...I still remember the 1/2 way across country trip TX to Washington, DC, with the Starcraft crank up, double bed slide, canvas top camper 47 years ago. 

To this day, including right now, I still smile and laugh thinking back on that 3 week trip.  I was blessed with GREAT Parents also. 

I need to go back and revisit your Blog, so I can steal some of your inspiration of places we might want to visit in the hopefully near future....

as you plan..Your Pack's next Adventure!  :)

I bet you already are plotting the next one.   :)

Jackie...RF, YTvid? OK I get it.

JD

Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 04, 2020, 08:48:09 AM
No plans for a next one in the near future but I do have a list of places I still want to get to. For now, my house is my adventure lol, cloroxing everything head to toe, painted 2 rooms, painting a third today, reassembling furniture etc
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 04, 2020, 08:57:45 AM
JD - you get your house back, dog back, first heart attack back.....  great song.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on April 05, 2020, 04:46:48 PM
JD - you get your house back, dog back, first heart attack back.....  great song.


Thanks for the share! I Definitely Book Marked it.  :))  :))  Picks up the Tempo / Spirit for sure!

Love me some HW Jr., Too!

Here is a Full Album for you.  Only Country Album I ever bought.  I love Classic Rock, but...

My Country Entire Album Fav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_Avp1tGAQ

My Single hwjr fav..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ji_byLzeBk
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 06, 2020, 03:11:41 AM

Thanks for the share! I Definitely Book Marked it.  :))  :))  Picks up the Tempo / Spirit for sure!

Love me some HW Jr., Too!

Here is a Full Album for you.  Only Country Album I ever bought.  I love Classic Rock, but...

My Country Entire Album Fav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_Avp1tGAQ

My Single hwjr fav..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ji_byLzeBk
Interesting choice for a rock man.  What rock do you like?
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on April 06, 2020, 05:34:26 AM
Interesting choice for a rock man.  What rock do you like?

Jackie,

I like county out of immersion/ forced exposure to it.  Never listened to it in my life before I worked the oil Fields.  I use to work for a old man he loved Black Velvet Whisky (after work) and Country Music (in his car) which we got a steady, mandatory, daily dose round tripping our 100 mile one way journey riding in his old Caddy to the Oil Rigs.  Back in those days Rock was played on Albums in your friends rooms with hardly any air play.  At least down here in the West Texas Desert. 

Loved that Rascal Flatts link...Never listened to them until the other day.  I realized now after your share who sang the "Broken Road"....I love that song

My Classic Rock line up just a few of my Favs..

Big fan of the 70s stuff, and later #1 Aerosmith is my main stay, with Bryan Adams believe it or not a close #2.  Some of my many favorites....AC/CD (W/Bon Scott Fronting)- High Voltage Fav Album of theirs, Van Halen all line ups, Motley Crue, Legz Diamond (Ever heard of them)?, Bon Jovi, Ted Nugent, Scorpions ......  Old 60s rock...CCR. 

We use to go to concerts as kids in the bigger cities near by.  Nothing came to my one horse town.  We hit the first 3 years of the Texxas Jams at the Cotton Bowl, 78,79,80, 86.  Here is a poster I had blown up from a picture I got from Vernon Gowdy Rock Photographer. I bought a bunch of smaller crowd shots and finally found our faces in the pic...got the poster blown up for my computer room. 

We had some memorable times at those shows. Once drove 100 + miles home in my Buddies Pick Up Truck around midnight with no Head Lights from Midland TX, Chaparral Center after Highway to Hell AC/DC Tour.  The Truth is stranger than fiction. We were following a friend closely. 

I have been to alot of shows, live, but ACDC was the only concert that was so loud my ears were ringing for 3 days straight. 

Went to a couple early Van Halen Shows in 78-79 and the one in Midland, TX was the time the people barricade broke from pushing (Plywood fronting across length of stage) I got my head and face smashed against the stage and a Big Cut on the hand where it was stuck in the bracing behind the barricade.  I heard it creaking and knew it was getting ready to break, but I was at a 45 degree angle at the time pulling myself to the very front next to the stage.  I was lucky after the surge forward when the barracade broke the sea of humanity backed off.  We were employing concert seating arrive late and smash your way to the front.  It was a little trick we learned going to concerts at the Cotton Bowl with 100K people in attendance.

Legz Diamond

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4phPDHyFuMM 
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 06, 2020, 05:38:26 AM
I love Bryan Adams and some of the other rock guys.  Some of those concerts sound a bit frightening!  I will listen to that, not heard of them.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: Old_Crow on April 06, 2020, 07:17:34 AM
Absolute worst concert I ever went to was Van Halen in Phoenix, in '79  or '80.
The opening act was something called The Fabulous Poodles.  Very Devo style band, and not at all what the fans were there for.  They sailed a copy of their album out into the crowd, and whoever caught it, sailed it back.  They were finally booed off the stage.
When VH finally came on David Lee Roth was so hammered he couldn't hardly remember the songs.
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: X-Roughneck on April 06, 2020, 08:55:55 AM
Absolute worst concert I ever went to was Van Halen in Phoenix, in '79  or '80.
The opening act was something called The Fabulous Poodles.  Very Devo style band, and not at all what the fans were there for.  They sailed a copy of their album out into the crowd, and whoever caught it, sailed it back.  They were finally booed off the stage.
When VH finally came on David Lee Roth was so hammered he couldn't hardly remember the songs.

Old_Rocker  ;)

I mean Old Crow,

I think the Texxas Jam 1 at the Cotton Bowl in 1978 was Van Halen's First Really Big Gig, and they were hitting on all cylinders, ROCKING the HOUSE! Their First, and my vote for their best, album was just released a few months earlier...They played at around 1100 AM, all day all night Concert for $12 or $15, the heavy hitters of the Day of Rock and Roll were there, but VH stole the show!  Cheech and Chong entertained the crowds between events in the afternoon.  We were on about the 10 yard line, the stage was on the goal line. 

They played the entire first Album and they had the Crowd (100,000 Sardine Canned Floor, Packed to the Gills, Cotton Bowl, Dallas TX) Ignited chanting and shaking our youthful Fists in the air for the Chorus.  I have been to big sporting events but I have never been in a more Electric, Plugged into Life Event. Electric is a great adjective...   

When we saw them in 2013ish a Different Kind of Truth Tour, David Lee was a former shell of himself, Voice was terrible, and I bought TIX in the Nose Bleed sections of San Antonio's ATT Center.  Hot, Hot Up towards the top.  I should have known better, this is TX, It must have been summer time too.  We left early.  Not good.

Love thinking back go memorable times of our youth though....

JD
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: RVMommaTo6 on April 06, 2020, 02:01:34 PM
JD, Broken Road is my song to my kids. I had kids years ago, got them as babies, it was supposed to be an adoptive placement, had them for 3 years and then they were unexpectedly sent back to their birth parents. I didn't even get to say goodbye, they went and picked them up from preschool and kindergarten. At the time, I didn't think could possibly go on. But that painful road led to me being the mom to my kids.

Jackie, I saw Bryan Adams in concert!
Title: Re: Lower 48
Post by: jackiemac on April 06, 2020, 07:06:16 PM
JD, Broken Road is my song to my kids. I had kids years ago, got them as babies, it was supposed to be an adoptive placement, had them for 3 years and then they were unexpectedly sent back to their birth parents. I didn't even get to say goodbye, they went and picked them up from preschool and kindergarten. At the time, I didn't think could possibly go on. But that painful road led to me being the mom to my kids.

Jackie, I saw Bryan Adams in concert!

Oh that's so sad and a terrible way to treat you.

I'm jealous!!  Hes touring this year but unlikely I will see him but you never know.