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Title: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: bob guichard on December 13, 2018, 02:47:52 PM
Anyone out there RVing with a pedal steel?
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 13, 2018, 04:23:11 PM
Anyone out there RVing with a pedal steel?

Don't play one...But I love the Cry of a Steel Guitar.
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Post by: PancakeBill on December 13, 2018, 08:15:05 PM
I travel with a Dobro.  Used to carry a lap steel, little easier to stow than pedal.
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Post by: kdbgoat on December 13, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
I'm an old rocker, and love to hear talented folks totally spreading a guitar, but absolutely love the sound of a steel guitar. I always wondered why Rock bands didn't exploit the virtues of a steel guitar.
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Post by: Larry N. on December 14, 2018, 08:25:24 AM
 
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I always wondered why Rock bands didn't exploit the virtues of a steel guitar.

Because they want their instruments distorted?  ::)
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Post by: PJ Stough on December 14, 2018, 11:26:58 AM
A well known rock band with Jerry Garcia on the pedal steel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuBGEoxbFN4

Here is a link to all of Jerry Garcia's work with the pedal steel.

http://nodepression.com/article/jerry-garcia-and-pedal-steel-guitar
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 14, 2018, 11:54:00 AM
I have seen a lot of pedal steel in rock bands. Pink Floyd for one.
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Post by: kdbgoat on December 14, 2018, 01:07:18 PM
PJ, thanks for the links  :))

Tom, I never knew Gilmore used a steel guitar, I learn something new everyday. :))
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 14, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
PJ, thanks for the links  :))

Tom, I never knew Gilmore used a steel guitar, I learn something new everyday. :))
High Hopes from the P.U.L.S.E. starting at 5:27, one of the best solos of all time.

https://youtu.be/HX_du6Gcp1w
Title: Re: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: kdbgoat on December 14, 2018, 02:20:28 PM
Sweet! Thank. I always assumed he played that on his Strat. Pulse is one of my favorite albums, love the bass on Sorrow. It'll rattle everything in the house. I'm also an old Wishbone Ash fan, and knew Ted Turner played a lap steel.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 14, 2018, 02:37:31 PM
Sweet! Thank. I always assumed he played that on his Strat. Pulse is one of my favorite albums, love the bass on Sorrow. It'll rattle everything in the house. I'm also an old Wishbone Ash fan, and knew Ted Turner played a lap steel.
PULSE is my all time favorite concert album. I have watched it well over 1000 times. Sorrow is my all time favorite song that wasn't written by the Beatles. However the CD and the DVD are slightly different. The three minute guitar solo at the end has the last two minutes overdubbed on the CD that is different than the DVD. The CD versions is my all time favorite guitar solo.
Title: Re: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: gravesdiesel on December 14, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
I love a cryin steel too. I know several excellent local players.  Country music aint the same without the steel!
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 14, 2018, 03:33:58 PM
I love a cryin steel too. I know several excellent local players.  Country music aint the same without the steel!

Country Music hasn't been the same for a long time :'(
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Post by: kdbgoat on December 14, 2018, 04:48:25 PM
Country Music hasn't been the same for a long time :'(

^ :))^
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 14, 2018, 05:04:29 PM
Country Music hasn't been the same for a long time :'(
Thank goodness. It is better than ever.
Title: Re: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: Larry N. on December 14, 2018, 06:15:51 PM
Thank goodness. It is better than ever.
Unfortunately more and more of it is becoming relabeled (or mislabeled) rock.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 14, 2018, 07:17:56 PM
Unfortunately more and more of it is becoming relabeled (or mislabeled) rock.
Rock and country are twin sons of different mothers. Music always progresses and people always complain because it is progressing. But very few people buy Hank Williams Sr recordings.
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Post by: Larry N. on December 14, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
...Music always progresses and people always complain because it is progressing.
But that doesn't make it better, just different. And I disagree that this change is "progress" -- change, yes; progress, no. But opinions...
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 14, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
Rock and country are twin sons of different mothers. Music always progresses and people always complain because it is progressing. But very few people buy Hank Williams Sr recordings.

Agreed...But then I'm one of the few that like that era of country music....
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Post by: Journey on December 14, 2018, 08:45:52 PM
  I'm another one with Larry & Gizmo  :))
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Post by: PancakeBill on December 14, 2018, 09:34:51 PM
I am a bluegrass guy.  Plus old country, the new stuff is pop with almost a twang.

Just another heard from.
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Post by: Gizmo100 on December 14, 2018, 10:39:17 PM
I am a bluegrass guy.  Plus old country, the new stuff is pop with almost a twang.

Just another heard from.

Love me some Bluegrass....Fox on the Run.....8_more miles to Louisville....The old home place.
Title: Re: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: SeilerBird on December 15, 2018, 03:57:07 AM
I love music. All music. It doesn't matter how old or how new it is and I don't care what label it has, all music is awesome.
Title: Re: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: kdbgoat on December 15, 2018, 06:42:37 AM
Rock and country are twin sons of different mothers. Music always progresses and people always complain because it is progressing. But very few people buy Hank Williams Sr recordings.

I don't because as far as I know, we have everything he's recorded, and yes, we do listen to them.
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Post by: Larry N. on December 15, 2018, 07:45:12 AM
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But very few people buy Hank Williams Sr recordings.
Still, there are enough folks out there with that preference that SiriusXM has a channel dedicated to traditional country, and another to bluegrass, and Larry's Country Diner and Country Family Reunion, plus many older shows such as The Porter Waggoner Show are very popular on RFD-TV. One reason that few buy Hank is that many already have what they want of that era, including old LPs or tapes they've picked up used, but it IS still available.

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I love music. All music. It doesn't matter how old or how new it is and I don't care what label it has, all music is awesome.

That's fine. But for me, distorted musical instruments, and voices that are equally distorted, and tasteless (to me) lyrics are part of things I dislike. Even though I love most classical music (yes, much of opera, too), for example, there are some modern compositions that have a lot of dissonance that are hard for me to listen to. The old (pre-Beatles) rock and roll had a lot of good music, though there were pieces I didn't care for, and a lot of the later stuff can be pretty good if the performances are toned down -- yes, it's often the performance I don't like -- to get rid of the distortions. In spite of its effectiveness in one song, I'm sorry that Marty Robbins "invented" the fuzz tone (the bad tube in a preamp) in Don't Worry 'bout Me, because of its massive over use.

And I won't even start on rap...
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Post by: Ernie n Tara on December 15, 2018, 08:30:47 AM
 :)) :)) :))

Ernie

Listening to Roadhouse!
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 15, 2018, 08:36:31 AM
Still, there are enough folks out there with that preference that SiriusXM has a channel dedicated to traditional country, and another to bluegrass, and Larry's Country Diner and Country Family Reunion, plus many older shows such as The Porter Waggoner Show are very popular on RFD-TV. One reason that few buy Hank is that many already have what they want of that era, including old LPs or tapes they've picked up used, but it IS still available.
I agree. But what is the point of complaining about "new" country music that so many old timers bitch about? If you don't like it then don't listen to it. Listen to something you like. Complaining about some form of music you do not like does not accomplish anything.

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That's fine. But for me, distorted musical instruments, and voices that are equally distorted, and tasteless (to me) lyrics are part of things I dislike. Even though I love most classical music (yes, much of opera, too), for example, there are some modern compositions that have a lot of dissonance that are hard for me to listen to. The old (pre-Beatles) rock and roll had a lot of good music, though there were pieces I didn't care for, and a lot of the later stuff can be pretty good if the performances are toned down -- yes, it's often the performance I don't like -- to get rid of the distortions. In spite of its effectiveness in one song, I'm sorry that Marty Robbins "invented" the fuzz tone (the bad tube in a preamp) in Don't Worry 'bout Me, because of its massive over use.
Marty Robbins did not invent fuzz. Grady Martin was the guitarist on that song but he didn't invent fuzz either. Goree Carter was playing a fuzz guitar in 1949 on Rock Awhile and Ike Turner played fuzz guitar on Rocket 88 in 1951. Duane Eddy had a lot of fuzz and Link Wray redefined fuzz in 1958 with Rumble.

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And I won't even start on rap...
Thank you.
Title: Re: Pedal Steel pickers
Post by: Larry N. on December 15, 2018, 10:14:56 AM
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I agree. But what is the point of complaining about "new" country music that so many old timers bitch about? If you don't like it then don't listen to it. Listen to something you like. Complaining about some form of music you do not like does not accomplish anything.
It was more explanation and expressing opinion than complaint (though I wish so many stores didn't make me listen if I'm in the store), Tom, vs "Thank goodness. It is better than ever." "Music always progresses and people always complain because it is progressing." "I love music. All music. It doesn't matter how old or how new it is and I don't care what label it has, all music is awesome."

Certainly there's nothing wrong with liking it all (some ways I envy that), but that's something given to few. You're fortunate, in that respect.
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Post by: PancakeBill on December 15, 2018, 10:56:31 AM
Ever hear Tom rap?  Me neither.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 15, 2018, 11:06:39 AM
Ever hear Tom rap?  Me neither.
One of my favorite songs of the 2000s is Lose Yourself by Eminem. I tried to rap with it but failed miserably. It is a very hard song to rap to. And he double tracks most of the vocals. I have no rapping ability but there are a lot of rap songs I love.
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Post by: kdbgoat on December 15, 2018, 04:21:31 PM
Rap- I wore out my Sugerhill Gang album before most people ever heard of rap.
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Post by: SeilerBird on December 15, 2018, 04:59:02 PM
Cab Calloway was doing rap songs about drugs in the 30s.
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Post by: Blues Driver on December 28, 2018, 02:29:42 PM
Robert Randolph plays blues on the steel .  I love the pedal steel and would buy one but have never found an instructor.  They begin at a minimum of $1000 plus for a simple one. I do have a lap steel at less $ and I can find instruction online. Tunings are simpler. 6 strings.
I grew up in the Midwest early 50's  and every little tv channel had a live country show. I watched just to hear the steel.
Pat