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Title: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 14, 2008, 08:07:13 PM
Russ Mahoney, Terry and I   plan to cross the  International Bridge here in Sault Ste. Marie, MI  to Canada  in the morning heading to our adventure in the  Maritimes. I will attempt to post an entry daily but entries may be less  reliable as I am  retired and want no schedules.  We thank  those RV Forum members who will guide us from their previous trips or from their recent posts.

Betty
On our way to Ottawa
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on June 14, 2008, 08:35:46 PM
Have fun, eh? And keep us posted as you can.

Wendy
Cortez CO
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Gary RV_Wizard on June 14, 2008, 09:12:14 PM
Have fun and post a line or two when you have a chance. No need for a complete journal unless you feel like it.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 14, 2008, 09:26:52 PM
I know it's tedious to be tied to posting every day, so I'll try to be patient. :D  We'll be eager to read whatever you post whenever you have time to post it.  But I'll be checkin' ..... :D

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2008, 11:04:06 PM
Russ Mahoney, Terry and I   plan to cross the  International Bridge here in Sault Ste. Marie, MI  to Canada  in the morning heading to our adventure in the  Maritimes. I will attempt to post an entry daily but entries may be less  reliable as I am  retired and want no schedules.  We thank  those RV Forum members who will guide us from their previous trips or from their recent posts.

Betty
On our way to Ottawa

Betty:

On to the land of $6.00 plus fuel, eh? ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 15, 2008, 06:13:18 AM
Betty you'll be about a 1,000 mile from the Maritimes when you cross at the Soo.  When do you expect to hit southern New Brunswick?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 15, 2008, 05:52:01 PM
Betty you'll be about a 1,000 mile from the Maritimes when you cross at the Soo.  When do you expect to hit southern New Brunswick?

I've checked  with my tour leader, Russ.  He thinks we will be in Southern New Brunswick in mid to late September.  We are on a mad dash to to Newfoundland to start.  Our next stop is in Ottawa to meet up with the Pally's and friends we met on our Yucatan Caravan.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 15, 2008, 06:07:44 PM
It is official.  We are in Canada.  We crossed over on the International Bridge at 9 am this morning.  It was foggy with very little traffic in sight.   The border was the easiest we have ever crossed.  A toll booth set up, had one very friendly woman asking the standard questions.  What is your citizenship, where are  you going, how long will you stay?  Do you have firearms, alcohol tobacco on board?  Have a nice trip!  She gave us directions to the Interstate we wanted.

Whew was I glad that went well.  I did not want  to lose  any food or beverage on board given the costs of everything these days.  We are on Highway 17 heading east.  We had a long drive today over 250 miles which is way more than we have been doing and I was tired.  Scenery is pretty.  Some parts are like a green tunnel but the green on the trees is that crisp spring  color.  Lots of standing water and many many lakes along the road to break up the scenery.  We are staying in North Bay for the night in a Wal Mart parking lot.  We are making time to meet up with friends in Ottawa. Terry and I commented on how much easier it is to travel in Canada than in Mexico.  We can read the signs and the roads are fine.  I'm going to get to brush up on my french!

Betty

Russ provided a crock pot of saurkraut and smoked hot turkey sausages.  YUM. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Steve, CDN on June 15, 2008, 06:16:45 PM
I don't expect you will have much difficulty with French in Quebec except for those pesky road signs. 

Attached is a text file I prepared a few years ago to help RV travellers visiting Quebec.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 15, 2008, 06:19:37 PM
Donna and I leave for Ottawa, without the RV, on Friday.  We've committed (or are being committed) to keep our grandkids over the next couple of weeks.  We will be back in the Maritimes in September, and hope to meet up with Dave or Jeff on their Atlantic visits.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Smoky on June 15, 2008, 06:44:09 PM
When and where will the Cousins be catching up with this caravan??

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ken & Sheila on June 15, 2008, 08:30:37 PM
Betty,

As I told Russ yesterday on the phone we are jealous!

Our only trip to the Maritimes was in our 26 foot HR trailer towed by a Dodge conversion van back in 1992 or 93(CRS). It was the lonest vacation we ever took with the trailer - two weeks. Of course we started from northern Vermont (we lived just north of Stowe, VT at the time)

I am sure you'll have a great trip. We hope to follow in your tracks in a few years.

Ken & Sheila

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 15, 2008, 09:00:33 PM
Betty:

I'm soooo glad you're back on line with your trip journal reports.  I must sound like a broken record, but I do so love to "travel along" with you and Terry and Russ.

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on June 16, 2008, 12:06:02 PM
To all you folks going across Canada to Newfoundland.  When driving by Montreal the highway goes right past the site of the Olympic games 25 years ago.  At the Olympic Games site you can dry camp there and best of all it has a subway station that takes you directly to downtown Montreal.  It is a delightful way for a quick visit to the city center of Montreal and all of its underground stores.  Ardra and I have done it on each of our trips by Montreal.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 16, 2008, 02:30:13 PM
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I did not want  to lose  any food or beverage on board given the costs of everything these days.

Betty, I think any food issues will be on your return to the U.S.  Forbidden items change of course, but last time it was meat, chicken, and some produce.  On our first trip to Prince Edward Island (maybe in the 1970s) they were having some kind of a potato blight.  As we got off the ferry in New Brunswick we drove through some kind of disinfectant and they went under our motorhome checking for whatever bug was the problem.  We were told the bugs get up under the wheel wells.  The Canadians were trying to contain the problem to PEI.  Anyway, you'll probably be using down your foods near reentry and that will help.  As I recall souvenirs that have skins and furs might be subject to question.

I just Googled United States Customs Prohibited Items and got a lot.  This one says:
These include plants, fruits, meats, vegetables, clothing made from the skins of endangered animals, ivory, lottery tickets, obscene articles or publications, and switchblade knives. Drugs without a doctor's prescription or narcotics, such as barbiturates, amphetamines, and marijuana, are strictly prohibited.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 16, 2008, 04:29:57 PM
June 16, 2008 Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Hello friends and framily. We are in Day 2 of our Canadian travels. I wasn’t going to post anything daily but I kept thinking of Margi‘s encouragement …. so here goes. We left our Wal-Mart Campground early this morning. Now who ever thinks Wal-Mart camp grounds are a bargain at FREE, think again. I spent $ in Wal-Mart as well as at the local Independent Market in the parking lot. But I guess I did need groceries for the trip ahead.

The travel today was a mere 200 miles but the scenery was spectacular. Every mile or so there would be an opening in the tall pine trees to reveal a post card perfect lake that reflected the trees and the sky in the calm waters. I wish I was an author who could paint a picture for you as it was as pretty as it gets. The bridges we crossed had lovely rushing streams over small falls and were so picturesque. We saw a small red fox crossing the road at one point. The Canadian Highway 17 is mostly 2 lane “freeway.” We slow down for the towns to meet their speed limit but we seem to be the only ones to obey the speed limits. Guess they don’t care about the cost of fuel. Gas prices seem to be getting less expensive today as we traveled east. But that is relative. The least expensive sign we saw for regular gas was $ 1.30.9 (per liter). Converting that to US gallons I get $ 4.94 cents a gallon.

We have not yet had to fuel up with diesel so I can’t give you that report. Bottom line. Who cares? Not that money is no object for us, but we have committed to this adventure and it will be pay as you go. We checked in to Recreation land RV Park east of Ottawa and will to connect with friends who live in Ottawa tomorrow. Only problem is that it is raining cats and dogs. Thunder and lightening too. In fact I am composing this offline as we have no internet right now. For those of you who may come another time the RV park is big rig friendly with satellite availability ( weather permitting) and they have free wi-fi. It is Recreationland Tent And Trailer park, Cumberland, Ontario (613) 833-2974. WEB SITE WWW.REC-LAND.COM

I am taking advantage of my 50 amp service tonight and baking a chicken casserole. Not that what I have for meals is so interesting but  when we pay extra for full 50 amp service I want to use all the utilities I have paid for.

Just heard from Fern and Annette, from our Yucatan trip. They will lead us on tour tomorrow through the sights of Ottawa. Life continues to be good.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Steve, CDN on June 16, 2008, 04:53:44 PM
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At the Olympic Games site you can dry camp there

I can't imagine the Olympic Stadium would let anyone dry camp.  Are you referring to one of the commercial parking lots in the area?

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When driving by Montreal the highway goes right past the site of the Olympic games 25 years ago

I don't see how that can be.  One would have to be driving through City streets deep within the City of Montreal to drive past the Olympic Stadium.  However if you happen to be driving along the South Shore of Montreal, toward Quebec City, you might get a brief glimpse of the tower from a distance..if you know where and when to look.

Other majoer East / West expressway routes across the City would not put you in view of the Olympic Stadium.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on June 16, 2008, 05:00:28 PM
It's been a long time Steve but we camped there twice.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 16, 2008, 08:40:02 PM
I wish I was an author who could paint a picture for you as it was as pretty as it gets.

Thank you, my dear friend, for once again taking us along with you.  If you're not "an author who could paint a picture for us", then I don't know who is.  We're very lucky to have you painting for us!  :D   No pressure .... but, thank you, thank you for your efforts. 

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2008, 09:14:33 PM
Betty:

We are in East Aurora (Buffalo) NY and the weather must be crossing us and headed across the lake, it has been a wet day!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Barb on June 17, 2008, 08:14:31 AM
Betty,
I along with Margi, and many others, I'm sure look forward to reading your log.  Your style of writing teases one's mind into painting a picture of your description.  It's wonderful.........

Thank you for posting what you can and when.
Looking forward to future posts, as the Maritimes are on our list of things to do.

Barb

Steve,
Is there anything left of Expo 67'?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 17, 2008, 12:56:27 PM
I can't remember what they are being used for, but there are still some of the buildings standing.  It is right down near the Casino, in fact if I remember correctly the Casino is in one of the sites.  We will be passing by there Friday evening on our way to keep the grandkid, who are in Ottawa.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Steve, CDN on June 17, 2008, 01:07:54 PM
HAlifax is right, the casino (former French Pavillion), the shell of the American pavillion (Buchminster Fuller) which burned years ago and the Forumula 1 racetrack.  Good place for a picnic thought.  It's called St. Helene's Island.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 17, 2008, 03:51:12 PM
Oh, Betty, you know we're here following alongside too.  You paint wonderful pictures for us, so we'll enjoy every word you write.  But, I'm with Margi.  If it gets too burdensome, don't bother.  But, if you just can't wait to share, we'll be here waiting!  ;)

Have a great time!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 18, 2008, 06:34:00 PM
June 17 and June 18, 2008 Ottawa

Hello friends,

Despite  the pouring rain of the past 2 days we have been having  great experiences.  The RV lifestyle affords us the opportunity to meet the BEST people.  We are in Ottawa, Ontario,  Canada, which is NOT part of our Maritime plans so everything we heard and saw here was a bonus.

 We  met a couple on our  Yucatan trip, Fern and Annette,  who live just outside of Ottawa.(very near our Recreationland Campground)   They were born in Quebec, speak fluent French and were our tour guides on Tuesday.   Ottawa is the Capitol of Canada and 50% of workers here are employed in a governmental position. We toured  Parliament Hill, which is the epicenter of Canada’s  political scene.  ( a phrase taken right from the tour guide)   The gothic architecture is impressive as are many of the buildings  in Ottawa.  We saw the American Embassy , heavily fortified a massive yet plain building. We saw the Rideau Canal that is   an 8 mile long ice skating venue in winter.  We saw streets dedicated to shopping( Sparks Street Mall) ,  farmers market, fresh flowers, restaurants and night life.  We saw the most impressive of museums.  It is said there are more museums here than anywhere else in Canada.  We determined that we would have to stay for over a year to see them  all.  Our time was short so we did not take in any of the museums but I must  tell you I have marked Ottawa as a place to return.  This is a beautiful “big City“ but with easy access. (Marcia you and Lindsey would love it her for your mother daughter weeks) The  icing on the cake with our visit with Fern and Annette was a trip to their home on the water near  Ottawa River.   Fern built the home did all of the impressive woodwork and Annette has become a master  gardener upon her retirement. The rain denied our trip up the river on their pontoon boat but we had such a good time.  Fern introduced Terry to a fast food treat, French fires smothered in cheese curd  topped with gravy.  I called it “something”  but our friend today said I liked prostitutes so I am no longer confident in my French  pronunciations.

On day 2 in Ottawa,  June  18, 2008 we had the pleasure of visiting with Steve and Ginette Pally , who lived in Montreal for years and have now been living in a luxury high rise condo in  Ottawa for  4 years with winter visits to their winter home in Titusville, Florida.  Following a delightful lunch at Robbie’s, their favorite  Italian Restaurant, Ginette graciously drove us through the major highlights of Ottawa.  It was a treat for Terry to not be the driver.  Their car is a Mercedes crossover,  SUV and very luxurious.  Russ is now demanding better auto accommodations for his rides with us !   Ginette navigated traffic, one way streets, road closures and of course pouring rain.  We again saw Parliament Hill , stopped to see the locks on Rideau Canal, noted Fairmont Chateau Laurier, drove by  the National Gallery of Canada with it‘s big spider sculpture out front. 

I could go on and on but all I can say now is VISIT OTTAWA.  It is on my list of places to return! 

We stayed an additional night here at Recreation land .  This park is quite suitable for big rigs and one of the few within access of the city. 
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 18, 2008, 06:40:38 PM
Betty,

The Pallys are gracious hosts and tour guides, as we found out when we visited Ottawa several years ago. As we exited the freeway, heading towards the campground, Steve emailed me to say he spotted us from their 28th floor condo. Steve was also kind enough to plot a route through the Maritimes for us.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 18, 2008, 07:10:28 PM
With 2 of our 3 kids, and all 3 of our grandchildren living in Ottawa, we have spent quite a bit of time there over the past 8 to 10 years.  Donna and I agree that ti is a very nice vacation destination, with lots to see and do.  In fact, we leave for there in our Toad tomorow.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Steve, CDN on June 18, 2008, 07:16:10 PM
It was great to have the visit of Terry,Betty and Russ!  We enjoyed our time together, and had fun showing them our (new) City..despite the rain.

We wish you a safe trip the rest of the way!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on June 19, 2008, 08:55:34 AM
Betty

The French Fries are called potine, it is an acquired task which neither Marlene nor I have yet acquired :)

Hope the weather clears and you can see the changing of the guard in Ottawa. It is an interesting spectacle.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on June 19, 2008, 09:45:26 AM
I don't expect you will have much difficulty with French in Quebec except for those pesky road signs. 

Attached is a text file I prepared a few years ago to help RV travellers visiting Quebec.

Tlhanks for the word translations Steve.  They will come in handy.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Steve, CDN on June 19, 2008, 11:27:21 AM
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The French Fries are called potine

That would be poutine

But be careful of the pronunciation Be sure to say  pooteen because a slightly different pronunciation of that word would mean a prostitute. :o
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 19, 2008, 05:48:23 PM
The French Fries are called potine, it is an acquired task which neither Marlene nor I have yet acquired
Hope the weather clears and you can see the changing of the guard in Ottawa. It is an interesting spectacle.

Bernie,
We enjoyed the gravy topped fries.  I   dashed lots of malt vinegar on top too. But I'm not going to say tht word no matter how it is spelled.  I'm bound to get it wrong!

  We learned that they hire college kids to dress up like Royal Canadian Mounted Police to work summers for the  ceremonial changing of guard.  They don't start this "show" until after  June 27 so we were too early.  I've seen the Changing of the  Guard in London and it is IMPRESSIVE.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 19, 2008, 06:05:05 PM
June 19, Quebec City

We had our first  diesel fuel fill up this morning in Canada.  We paid $ 1.42.9 per liter.  This meant $330.10 US for us as we took on 62.8 gallons.  This translates to $5.26 per gallon.  Gulp!!! 
Today  I felt like we entered a foreign country!  We crossed over in the Province of Quebec and they use French exclusively.  (None of those English translations on road signs.)  We traveled mostly in rain and right through the middle of Montreal.  We felt it was just like driving through Los Angeles but Montreal only has 3 lanes of stopped traffic in the direction you are going vs the 6 lanes of stopped LA traffic.  We are checked into the Camping  Aeroport  RV Park in a semi flooded  sight.  It has been raining a lot.  We  selected the bus tour we will do in the morning for a City Tour.  Then we will know how to explore on our own for the next  few  days.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2008, 06:28:46 PM
Betty,

Be sure to visit Old Quebec City.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 19, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Betty,

Filling up won't seem like it hurts so much if you never let it go below a half tank.  That's what we were paying in Newfoundland which was our highest rate, so it will be interesting to see how much diesel is when you get there.  Doesn't seem so bad if you don't do the conversion and dream instead of $1.42!  ;)

Great start to your trip even if it is raining.  We had a lot of rain in Quebec and that's where we discovered our first leak.  Yeah, some of that sealant around the batwing antenna had dried out just enough to make a mess.  Hope all your seams stay dry!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: mariekie on June 19, 2008, 09:22:07 PM
Betty,

We filled up yesterday with diesel in Pagosa Springs @ $4.799 per gallon and we took in 62.51 gallons and our total was exactly $300.00 - The pump quit at $300.00

Maybe you should check your metric conversion table!!!! We are going to have to get used to the fact that we have to pay more for gas.  My children in Switzerland pay almost $8.00 (converted from liter) per gallon. AND they pay less for diesel. The US is the only country where we pay more for diesel. Go figure that one!!!!!

If you liked Ottawa, you will love Quebec City. It would be a pity to miss that. I realise one can not do everything. But have fun and keep on writing those interesting reports.

Mariekie
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 19, 2008, 09:51:15 PM

We filled up yesterday with diesel in Pagosa Springs @ $4.799 per gallon and we took in 62.51 gallons and our total was exactly $300.00 - The pump quit at $300.00 Maybe you should check your metric conversion table!!!!

Marie,

 Terry used a metric conversion table from liters to gallons THEN he used the exchange rate to come up with the cost of our fuel in  US dollars as  I  understand that value.  The sticker shock  of fuel is something we are coping with.  I am cooking more meals in the RV and unless a souvenir is really special it is not on my list of "Must Purchases."  Fortunately  digital photos are "free" and I can delete all of the  really bad ones!   I like Ardra's suggestion of fueling up more often so the amount does not seem as large at a given fill up.  Whew!!!  But we feel fortunate to have the opportunity to see our planet  in this RV style. 

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
Marie,

Maybe the confusion is coming from:

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We paid $ 1.42.9 per liter.

That would be $cdn, which would mean Terry's numbers are correct, or close enough.

1 US gallon = 3.785 liters

$US 1 = $cdn 1.016 (approx)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: mariekie on June 19, 2008, 10:36:35 PM
Thank you Tom,

I always forget about US gallons!!! I have been living in the States for almost 23 years now and I still can not get the metric way of thinking out of my system.  Why, oh why, can the US not get into the 21st century????? It is so much easier...................

Marie
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2008, 11:32:23 PM
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Why, oh why, can the US not get into the 21st century????? It is so much easier....

I agree 100% Marie. When I went through school in the UK it was the imperial system. Later, when I went back to college, it had changed to metric and I had to re-learn everything. But, as you say, it's much easier to work with.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Nathan on June 20, 2008, 05:53:34 AM
Betty

The bad news:  I filled my car with diesel yesterday, £1.30 a liter = $9.59 a US gallon.

The good news: we fly into Vancouver on Wednesday, John Maguire will have prepositioned our motorhome there, I'm looking forward to filling up with (comparitively) cheap diesel!!!   We're spending three months in BC, then head south thru Glacier NP, Yellowstone, Sedona etc and be back in Happy Trails early October.

Terry and Liliane, at home in UK
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Ma honey/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on June 20, 2008, 10:05:36 AM
Terry & Liliane,

If you go to Glacier NP you might consider the Remington Carriage Museum across the border at Cardston, Alberta.  It is arguably the best carriage museum in the US.  It's a "world class" museum where you will see carriages you never even knew existed.  Here's the web site.

http://www.remingtoncarriagemuseum.com/ (http://www.remingtoncarriagemuseum.com/)

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 20, 2008, 03:12:37 PM
Hi Betty, I don't know how far you've gotten, but Donna and I are heading in the opposite direction in our toad.  Since we have been just sauntering, and if you don't mind quiet 2 lane roads, I would recommend Hwy 138 from Montreal to Quebec City and Hwy 132 from Quebec City until you decide to turn South into New Brunswick.  They are delightfull country roads that add a little time, but no distance, and give you a good feeling for the agrarian roots of Quebec, with it's long narrow fields, stone fences, lush green crops that are just sprouting.  All in all it was a nice trip, as we usually get in, set the cruise and beat it like hell to get to the kids.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 20, 2008, 04:42:29 PM
Ed,

Thank you for the recomended roads.  We are still in Quebec City.  We did the City tour by bus this morning and will do our own explorations tomorrow of the surrounding areas in our toad with tour books in hand.

 When we leave Quebec City we are headed for  Gaspe.  We  also like the less traveled roads.  We've hit rain daily in our travels but it hasn't put a damper on our good time.  Quebec is indeed green, lush and rich in history. 

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Nathan on June 21, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
Thanks Jerry, we will certainly visit that museum - we're staying with friends in Cranbrook, Alberta at the end of August and will go to the museum from there.   

Terry (at home in UK for 4 more days)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on June 21, 2008, 07:58:52 AM
Betty

The bad news:  I filled my car with diesel yesterday, £1.30 a liter = $9.59 a US gallon.

The good news: we fly into Vancouver on Wednesday, John Maguire will have prepositioned our motorhome there, I'm looking forward to filling up with (comparitively) cheap diesel!!!   We're spending three months in BC, then head south thru Glacier NP, Yellowstone, Sedona etc and be back in Happy Trails early October.

Terry and Liliane, at home in UK

Sure hope you guys will stop by Sam's Camp while in the MT area.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: threeful on June 21, 2008, 11:11:38 AM
If you are still in Quebec and like chocolate and ice cream take a 30 min drive or take the ferry and go to Les Chocolats Favoris in Levis, Quebec.  Get a chocolate dipped ice cream cone and it will be a memory for life.  My wife and I did this last year and it was one of the trip highlights.  I know that seems a bit odd that chocolate or ice cream could be such a memory but until you have eaten one you will never know or have the memory.  Trust me on this.

Bill T
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 21, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
June 20 and 21, 2008 . Quebec City and Countryside,   Aeroport Camping Park

We have just had the longest day of the year by whichever summer solstice day you choose to follow.  We are in Quebec City, Québec, Canada  and the darkness happens about 9:30 pm our time.  The past two days have had me frustrated by the exclusive use of French  language.  While I studied French for 4 years in high school ( from  1962 to -1966 ) I  have forgotten a bunch. Road signs are not in English nor are any of the  public tourist sights translated into English.  Despite the fact that we are still in Canada we have not seen many Canadian flags flying, but we have seen the beautiful  blue and white fleur de lis flag of Quebec flying all over. Still   I feel like we are  someplace in France and not in Canada. Quebec is like a little country inside of  Canada.   That said,…. I am loving this visit.

Yesterday we took the “city bus  tour”  that was recommended  by our campground host who has been more than friendly to us. He even had the guys  drop gravel at our site as the rains flooded  and muddied the entrance to our rig.   The tour bus picked up Terry , Russ and me in front of our campground yesterday morning for a tour of the city.  It was bilingual.  Again I was frustrated thinking I should have understood the French part of the trip .  I didn’t.  I did appreciate the English portion of the tour .  This is an old city.  It is considered the first  French city in North America .  Quebec City  is  celebrating the  400 year anniversary of  it’s existence.  Signs and  decorations all over  town say 1608 to 2008.   There are special events scheduled to occur through this weekend.  At one  locale 250,000 people are expected  attend the event.   Sorry but we are out of here . Since we are not French Canadian, we  cannot relate to the Quebec pride in their heritage, but we still appreciate  the landscape and the city.  Besides we don't like big crowds!

The old City of Quebec reminds me of my visit to  Europe long ago in 1970.  The old world architecture  is exquisite and  very European.  Despite the fact that this land is called Nouvelle-France, we found the homes and farms on the outskirts  to have a Dutch influence.    We saw the walled city and listened to the  history of the  city from within and outside.   Once again I wish  I had paid more attention to my history classes in school.  No matter what details I report to you, I shall recommend a trip to Quebec City, Quebec,  Canada.  You can figure it out for yourself.

On our second day of touring (and  in our  own) car with tour maps in hand, we traveled  105 miles.  We visited Parc de la Chute-Montmorency and were enthralled with the  waterfalls that are 1.5 times the drop of Niagara Falls.  We trekked out across the falls on  a suspension bridge and while loved the views,   I  became frustrated by the  numerous “foreign tourists” who did not” keep right.” We still prefer those  tourist spots with no visitors!   We stopped at Chez Marie to get a sample of fresh bread with fresh maple  syrup. Yum I bought some. 

Our next stop was the Sainte-Anne-De-Beaupre Shrine, celebrating it‘s  350 year anniversary.  It stand  huge in the landscape as a big building everyone can see from everywhere!   There is a religious conference in town and the  church was filled with  visitors.  We snapped a few photos and went on our way to have  lunch at  St  Herbert’s.   

We followed the “tourists things to do”  and came  upon an art Gallery. We met the woman whose husband is the artist and came from  Italy  when  he was  19 to work on the ceiling of the  Shrine of St-Anne-de-Beaupre ceiling.  He is an artist who specializes in Mosaics.  We saw that ceiling and it is indescribable.  If I was made of money I would have purchased one of his mosaics!

We visited the Albert Gilles Copper and Art Museum and  I purchased a pair of copper earrings.  They made the Copper doors we saw at the Shrine!  We  asked  Hilda (our GPS) to take us home and we headed back to the Aeroport Camping Ground.  It is filled up.  We are content at home in our rig.  Photos to follow

We have a day off from touring things tomorrow  as the guys watch their auto  races.  I may take a tour on my own.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 22, 2008, 06:11:09 AM
Betty, I don't think I mentioned the Irish Immigration Museum in Grosse Isles about a half hour drive, and a boat ride from Quebec.  It opened when the Irish famine was at it's peak, and most other port refused to accept immigrants.  So whether they were coming to Canada or the States, they landed in Grosse Isle, were quarantened, then moved on.  So, if you have any Irish in you, you might want to consider a side trip.  We've never taken the time, they say it takes the best part of the day to see it all.  I've no Irish in me and Donna's are pre famine and landed in Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on June 22, 2008, 10:20:06 AM
Betty,

Here's a good RV Park for you.  Pippy Park in St. John's NF which also happens to have the best RV park in the area.  This huge park is owned and operated by the city.  It's a great place to use as a base to see both the city and many nearby attractions.  We loved St. John's which has lots of things to see and good hiking.  In fact, we happened to arrive on Canada Day (like our 4th of July) and while hiking on Signal Hill almost ended up in the middle of the canons firing during the Tatoo.  Someone in a red British uniform came running out to steer us in another direction.  We hadn't planned on watching the Tatoo but ended up seeing it from an advantageous viewpoint in spite of ourselves. 

We drove up to the golf course just to see it (we're not golfers).  It looked very nice with 18 holes and great views.  Notice I said "up" earlier.  That's because it's on one of St. John's many hills.  While you're at Pippy Park, don't miss the world's only "Fluvarium" which is underwater viewing (behind glass windows) of a natural river.  Also, The Rooms is their wonderful new museum, so named for the "rooms" used by the cod fishermen.

Hope all of you have a great time visiting that corner of the world!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 22, 2008, 02:45:20 PM
Photos from Quebec City and Surrounding Countryside
June 21 and 22, 2008

And I added one more this afternoon as it rained all day and I had time to review photos.

BB
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 22, 2008, 03:07:25 PM
Thanks Betty. Your photos bring back memories of our visit to Quebec City.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 22, 2008, 04:03:52 PM
Betty,

If the weather is good enough and you go out the Gaspe, take the northern road east and you'll come to the Indian Head Campground, named for a nearby rock that looks like - an Indian's head.  It's between Percé and the Town of Gaspé  The fellow who owns it is an American and he will tell you where to visit that has people who will help you in English.  Very nice guy.  (He may remember us from 2006 because Jerry gave him a photo of our RV in a site to possibly use in a brochure.)  If it's foggy, don't even waste your time going out the peninsula because you won't see anything of their beautiful scenery.  It took our third try before we toured the Gaspe.  The first two times just weren't worth even trying because the visibility was so poor.  By the way, driving east on that northern road is better because Betty (The Passenger) will be on the inside edge and won't have to deal with dropoffs.  The road is kept as clear as they can in winter and I kept thinking of the truckers driving it in winter.  The road is good but goes up and down a lot.  The little villages along the way are delightful with neat churches and very colorful houses.  Before the road was built access to the fishing villages was only by boat which explains why all the villages are at sea level.

I just remembered a village along the St. Lawrence.  I can't recall its name (may be near Tres Pistoles) but at low tide the bay is full of sculptures.  An odd assortment, but interesting too.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 22, 2008, 04:15:18 PM
Ardra,
I have been reviewing your 2006 Newfoundland log in the Forum library daily to comb the details before we get to the place so I won't miss a thing.  The detail is helpful.  I'm reminded  again if the valuable resources in  our Forum library.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Steve, CDN on June 22, 2008, 05:30:27 PM
Quote
I can't recall its name (may be near Tres Pistoles)


I don't know the town you mean, but the town it might be near is spelled Trois Pistoles
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 23, 2008, 04:51:32 PM
OOOPS!  Spanish gets in the way sometimes.  :o  I never did take French and neither did my keyboard!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 24, 2008, 08:30:17 AM
June 22 and June 23, 2008   Matane, Quebec (on the Gaspésie Peninsula)   Camping Par Sirois (418) 562-2241)

From this report forward I will indicate the  RV campground we are staying at in the first line along with a phone number.  Those following after us will have an easier time to find a suitable  RV Park , and with clear  southern sky, if your path follows ours. 

We attempted to depart Quebec city at 8 am sharp but it was so foggy that the drivers mutually agreed to leave at 9.  Russ went for coffee.  I did internet tasks for my responsibilities with an ailing aunt. 

It is a sad feeling to leave a city which you do not feel you have fully explored but it makes for a great list of things to do if you return.  I got up my confidence this morning and used my French  to thank the Campground Hosts at Camping Aeroport.  They brightened up and told me my accent was very good and that many  people need years of practice to develop my accent.  My French teacher 30 years ago told me  “parlez dans le nes” and “ Pense en francais.”  (I think the spelling is close.)  It means speak in your nose and think in French.  Remember all the times in Mexico where I complained that I did not take Spanish in High School?  Well now I am happy to have some vocabulary to use here in Quebec.  If I were here and immersed in French all the time it would come back to me quickly.  I do feel like a foreign traveler however as I can’t tell Proper nouns from regular vocabulary words but Terry and I are getting very good at using context clues for vocabulary translations.  We know when to buckle up our seatbelts to save our lives, we know when the left lane ends, we know when to stop at this line.

The highway 132  toward Gaspésie was lovely and breath takingly picturesque.  We  came out of a green tunnel and voila, the view  below our hilltop  was a lovely seaside village. Each little village greets us with their  silver colored church steeple.  The St Lawrence  River has become the St Lawrence Seaway  and looks  more  like an ocean at this  vantage point. For the geographically challenged about this area (as I was a week ago) , the Gaspe Peninsula is  a thumb of Quebec due north and east of Maine.   Our travels will be along waterways for a while. 

Today we had a treat in our  200 plus mile drive.  We stopped in Metis-sur-Mer to tour Les Jardins de Metis.  Also known as the Reford Gardens.  Fifty years ago Elsie Reford planted a dream garden with  thousands of flowers.  Most acclaimed are the Himalayan  Blue Poppies which are very difficult to grow . I wish I could send you the smell of the lilacs in bloom that permeated the air. Jut think of your grandma… The climate here is conducive to  plants and  represent 14 gardens from all regions of the world .  The  Festival specializes in a contemporary art form of art, architecture and plants and  was very “interesting. ”  I’m not sure I “got” the exhibits but I enjoyed the thought provoking  illustrations.  My favorite was hundreds of potatoes hooked up to wires that created enough electricity to light  small lights.  Terry said he did it in elementary school.  I did not recall that use of potatoes.

We tried a couple of RV parks that we did not  like and  found this one in the Quebec Camping guide.  It is very satellite friendly but the guys have trouble with the signal in our yet another  rainfall this evening.  We made plans for our drive around the Gaspe  Peninsula tomorrow to the  town on Perce.  We commented today on how fortunate we feel to have this travel experience.  Our life is good.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on June 24, 2008, 08:47:18 AM
Betty:  We will be going back that way in August.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 24, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
Betty as many have seen me post or heard me say, there are only 2 seasons in Atlantic Canada, and while the Gaspe is not officially considered Atlantic Canada, it is geographically, they are "WINTER AND FOG", so be prepared for what you saw in Quebec City.  From here on, you are entering God's country with some of the nicest scenery and people on this earth.  Donna and I won't be back in Parlee Beach until around July 7th, if we're back we will need to get together and show you some of  what we are so proud of.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 24, 2008, 07:49:10 PM
I don't think I mentioned the Irish Immigration Museum in Grosse Isles about a half hour drive, and a boat ride from Quebec.  It opened when the Irish famine was at it's peak, and most other port refused to accept immigrants.  So whether they were coming to Canada or the States, they landed in Grosse Isle, were quarantened, then moved on.  So, if you have any Irish in you, you might want to consider a side trip. 

Ed, We saw the exit as we passed.  I have LOTS of Irish heritage but just not enough time this trip to see it all.  When we passed the exit we both exclaimed, hey this is what we were told about!  We felt the sameway when we missed the town of Levi and the ice cream dipped in chocolate.  You guys are making it hard to  "see it all."   But thanks for the suggestions.  I know why Russ is leading us on his second  trip here and  still making list of things to see.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 24, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
June 24, 2008 Perce, Quebec,   Camping Du Phare  (418) 782-5588

We left Matane at the  honorable hour of 10:20 this morning as we waited for the fog to lift.  I combed the tour brochure and found an interesting  place to visit less than an hour away, Le Nordais Windmill Park.


 On our way we got our  second fuel up of diesel.   It was $5.84 per gallon….. But we are getting better mileage than Russ because we drive more slowly than he does. He makes rest stops then races to catch up with us.  I practiced my French with the fuel station  attendant and learned that the  windmill park we wanted to visit  was on the right and up a hill.  She said a whole bunch of other things that I hoped meant it was ok to take our big rig up that road!  We spent a delightful 2 hours at Eole Park.  It is in Cap-Chat on the Gaspe Peninsula. Having lived in California we’ve seen the wind turbines in Tehachapi and in  Palm Springs areas but today was the first up close and personal visit we’ve had with the behemoth  size  machines.  The Vertical axis wind turbine in Cap-chat is the tallest in the world ( 110 meters).  It was built as a joint private industry and  Government venture to experiment on the  use of wind to generate electricity.  It started during the 1970 fuel crisis.  Through a series of political and economic reasons, it has not run  for over 20 years but when it did,  it  provide electricity for 400  homes.  The  developer  had an initial contract to receive  25  cents per kilowatt generated and made millions dollars.  It now sits still awaiting parts.  It takes 3 of the smaller wind turbines with 3 blades that are more familiar to us  to generate the equivalent amount of electricity.  Gaspe is the right place for wind turbines as they have lots of wind!! It will soon run again as a private Canadian Company is undertaking a new power venture.  All the companies who service the  windmill park must live in Quebec so it is good for the Province! The experimentation done by the first turbine resulted in changes made with subsequent wind farms.  I’m sure I left out critical details  but this  place was wonderful.  We drove our 40 foot motor home with car attached to the  site .  The turn around radius was wonderful as they had to truck those huge  wind thingys up that road so it was big enough for us.  What a treat!

The rest of the journey around the Gaspe Peninsula today was  very scenic even though it was up and down and very bumpy roads.  I was reminded of frost heaves and Mexican roads.  The road was narrow  but NO traffic.  It is Jean the Baptist Day so locals are at home with celebrations and not on the road.  Par for our travels,  it rained hard in the last part of the trip.  The coastline villages all have pristine white box like houses with colorful shingles on roof.  Every part of the ground is lush green, a testimony to the rain.  The  scenery was that of post cards. Ohhhhh ahhhhhhhh.
We arrived at our Campground after 7 pm, exhausted and ready for supper!  We are tourists’ again in morning  but will go by boat.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 24, 2008, 08:53:25 PM
Betty we have never had the time to stop either.  However, as I said, Donna's Irish are pre-famine and landed in Nova Scotia.  As for ice cream, it may not be chocolate coated, but when you hit PEI you will have to get a COWS Ice Cream, which has won the award for being the best in the world.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Smoky on June 25, 2008, 07:45:39 AM
Sharon and Smoky are still wondering when and where the Cousins catch up with the Brewers and the Mahoneys???

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on June 25, 2008, 09:08:32 AM
Sharon and Smoky are still wondering when and where the Cousins catch up with the Brewers and the Mahoneys???



Smoky:

Probably in late July or early August either in Newfoundland or Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 26, 2008, 11:19:16 AM
June 25,  2008   Perce, Quebec    Camping Du Phare at Perce  (418) 782-5588  ( Passport America Park)


Well duhhhh.  This morning Terry shows me that he’d found that the RV Park we are staying in (and have already  paid for two nights )is a Passport Park.  This means we should have had a rate ½ of what we paid.  I trot to office to see if my French is good enough to get a refund.   No dice, credit cards are already processed.  Because there is so much to see here, we are staying one more night at the ½ rate but lost out  before because  of our lack of attention to our benefits! 

Today was one of the most  gorgeous  days of our trip.  Not only is the scenery around Perce incredible, the weather gods listened to my prayers (Thanks Barb) and we had  crystal clear  blue skies with a warm a nice breeze .  We quickly  made our reservation to go out on a boat ride  around Bonaventure Island and see the Gannet Colony.   Before today I did not know what a Gannet was and now I love them.  Russ  boarded the boat with us a the seas looked so calm.  The boat took us by  Perce rock and then around the cliffs of the  island  where thousands of Gannets make their nests, have babies  and stay until October when they fly south.  I snapped  lots of shots!!! We got off on the  island and Russ took the boat back to Perce. We ate our  picnic lunch when we arrived on the island and  then began the 45 minute hike to the back of the island to see the bird colony.   The first 1/3 of the trip was a gradual grade uphill and I was huffing and puffing wondering if seeing these birds was going to be worth it.   Well let me tell you to see  the thousands of these nesting birds up close and personal was fantastic.  They are beautiful birds.  Ron Maribito will love to  shoot photos of them.  I saw them preening , mating, feeding, nest building and cooing.  The place did smell like a chicken coop and the din of the cawwwing of the birds was a noise that crept up on us as we got closer to the colony.  I saw their golden colored eggs, I saw a few newly hatched babies.  Wow is all I can say.

The topper of the evening was the restaurant where we dined had a guitar playing French singer.  I loved it.  The guys liked their lobster and I liked my French Onion soup.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 26, 2008, 12:33:13 PM
Oh I'm so glad you got good weather there and that you like it there too.  It's SOOO pretty!  You got some great photos.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 26, 2008, 06:21:49 PM
June 26, 2008 Perse, Quebec      Camping Du Phare Passport America Park (Not in July or August )


Today was not nearly as pretty as yesterday and Terry is fighting off a cold so we slept in and kicked back.  I did get up some energy to go touring on my own.  I went to the Bonaventure Island National Park. I paid the one dollar tariff,   hiked down the steps to get a view of the rocks and sea.  There I  learned you can’t go  out on the beach on your own.  You need to go with a naturalist Parc  guide.  You also need tickets and you purchase them over by the wharf.  It is at 2:15.  I’m learning all of this in French as  no one  speaks English. When I trotted over to the wharf and no one in the Parc Headquarters with all of the maps and displays spoke English and that all of the guided tours are in French exclusively I kinda lost interest.  I bought a poster of the beautiful Gannets and a book telling me all about them.  It is in English and French.  I am discouraged today with my inability to learn things here due to my language.  So I went to the market.  I refused to pay $2.00  for a small head of lettuce, but I did buy one red onion that ended up costing me $2.02.  I  did not see any souvenirs of interest.  My navigators had a meeting and determined our route to New Brunswick in the morning. 

Since it was not so pretty today I am going to include some of my photos from yesterday and a couple from today.  Terry takes better photos with his camera than I do with mine but I got closer to the baby birds than he did.

Here is something “funny”  I did not tell you about  yesterday.  You know the saying Shit Happens?  I’m here to tell you about a true meaning.  While out on our boat ride around Bonaventure Island a bird flew over and did a “dropping“….right in my ear.  It did not splatter on my face, it did not get on my clothing.  It was a direct hit in the ear.  I was the only one who knew it hit!  It felt wet and waaaaay yucky.  I  used a Kleenex and got most of it out but it left me with a crappy feeling until I could get home and pour Hydrogen peroxide into my ear.  My doctor friend, Russ indicated that fecal matter in the ear is a very uncommon problem.   OK now, Marsha,   Margi and Wendy you can quit laughing.  From now on I am wearing a  wide brimmed hat while out on boats.   
Just enjoy the photos from yesterday and think how excited I was to see these bird colonies even though I was having a bad day!


Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 26, 2008, 06:48:27 PM

 OK now, Marsha,   Margi and Wendy you can quit laughing. 

I'm sorry ... that's just too funny not to laugh.  ;D  I've stepped in a lot of horse stuff, but thankfully never took a direct shot in the ear.   ;)

I have never seen a gannet and they are so interesting looking and quite beautiful.   I really enjoyed your pictures.

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 26, 2008, 06:51:22 PM
I forgot to ask ... what in the world were you holding?  I wondered that with the first set of photos, then saw the "bird on a stick" in the second set, and still ask "what in the world is that?".

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 26, 2008, 07:25:07 PM
Betty, we do consider it a sign of good luck when you take a direct hit
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on June 26, 2008, 07:47:36 PM
Betty, we do consider it a sign of good luck when you take a direct hit


It was certainly good luck for the rest of them that Betty took the direct hit.   ;D

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on June 26, 2008, 08:17:44 PM
Golly that bird must have had an excellent bomb sight.  Now if I can get Sam to quit laughing.  Sounds like your having a great time bird doo and all.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 26, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
I forgot to ask ... what in the world were you holding?  I wondered that with the first set of photos, then saw the "bird on a stick" in the second set, and still ask "what in the world is that?".
Margi,

Terry says to tell you it is a shis ka bob!  I think it may  be a prop used by  the rangers to explain parts of the bird, but I like the shis ka bob story better.

Lucky Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 27, 2008, 07:47:53 AM
Yesterday we called and reserved our Ferry to Newfoundland.  We are traveing  from North Sydney to Port Argentia departing at 7:30 am on June 30.   We will leave Port aux Basque at 4 pm. for our return on 7/31/08.

 Does anyone know if we can boondock on or near the ferry terminal?  We will be arriving Argentia late evening and hope to stay there if we can. 

We did not think it bad that we were able to get the dates and times we wanted for this ferry by calling just 4 days before departure.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Barb on June 27, 2008, 07:55:56 AM
Betty,
Your welcome.  We all wishing you great weather on your trip.  Thanks for sharing your adventures, I only chuckled. I made a note to self on wide brim hats around the water. Looks like beautiful country.  A speedy recovery on that cold.   

Stay safe, and live life to the fullest.
Barb
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on June 27, 2008, 08:10:00 AM
A direct shot in the ear!!!.....I'm still laughing.  I can just picture you trying to "get it out" discretely.  I would have loved to have been there to see that, and your reaction;of course then there is the chance that I could have taken the hit for you.

I have a friend who is a horse shoer.  He has many stories of being under the back end of a horse while putting new shoes on the back feet and being blessed on the head with "horse apples".  I'm sure Margi can picture that event.... ;D

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 27, 2008, 09:00:18 AM
ROFL, Marsha.  It's bad enough when you're brushing the critters and they get so relaxed they "reward" you with a rear blast of air which would set off an LPG detector if one were nearby.  ::)

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on June 27, 2008, 10:02:58 AM
Betty,

When you were driving the Gaspe did you see any signs like this one, we did?

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on June 27, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Had computer troubles last night so didn't get to read Betty's Bird Bomb story until this morning. Thanks for the a.m. laugh. I can't stop laughing thinking it. Me, I wouldn't have been discrete at all....I'd have been yelling the word that matches the item that fell in my ear. So, Betty, did you go out and buy a broad-brim hat to cover your ears from future attacks??

BTW, did you know that very few birds poop while flying?

Wendy
still LMAO
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 27, 2008, 01:05:26 PM
Thanks for the good laugh, Betty.  I know it's at your expense, but it's still funny.  Glad you got your ear cleaned out....

I remember that set of buildings with the red roofs.  Such a great setting!

Enjoy your ferry ride.  Don't know about the ferry and parking.  All I know is it's not real close to St. John's.  People are so friendly though that I doubt you'll have trouble boondocking if you see a suitable place.  We got off a ferry at night and ended up in a church parking lot.  The next morning the people at the church were so nice we gave them a donation for their restoration fund to say thank you.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 27, 2008, 01:10:47 PM
Betty, you love to shop so don't miss Irene's Curio Shoppe when you get to St. John's.  It's the oldest retail establishment on the oldest street in the oldest city in North America.  We met Irene's sister and family on the beach at the "Flower Pots" and she told us to stop by and say hello to her sister who owns the shop.  We did that and were very surprised when Irene said her sister had called and told her to expect us!  Again, such nice people....

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 27, 2008, 04:07:27 PM

When you were driving the Gaspe did you see any signs like this one, we did?

Jerry,
We saw several signs you mentioned.  The highest we saw was an 18% grade.  We were glad it was not winter!

BB
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 27, 2008, 04:13:17 PM
Me, I wouldn't have been discrete at all....I'd have been yelling the word that matches the item that fell in my ear. So, Betty, did you go out and buy a broad-brim hat to cover your ears from future attacks?

Wendy,

Since no one else saw what happened I tried to be very discreet. I did some very quick digging for my Kleenex and noted to self to carry more with me  in the future.  It happened during the short burst of English translation on the boat and I was trying to hear out my one good ear about Pearce Rock.  Notice I did not share statistics of the rock as I was VERY distracted by the events!  NO hat yet, but it is on the list!

Lucky Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 27, 2008, 06:12:03 PM
Betty since the ferry is about a 4 hour drive from the house, we have never stayed anywhere in Cape Breton on our few trips to NF, none of which were with the Coach or the trailer.  However, I think that you need to get into a lineup for the boat, so and the lot is quite large, it would be my assumption that boondocking is common place.  However, maybe one of those who have taken the ferry might respond.  Everyone seems to have missed the question, they all seem rapped up in your good luck charm.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 27, 2008, 06:16:50 PM
Betty since the ferry is about a 4 hour drive from the house, we have never stayed anywhere in Cape Breton on our few trips to NF, none of which were with the Coach or the trailer.  However, I think that you need to get into a lineup for the boat, so and the lot is quite large, it would be my assumption that boondocking is common place.  However, maybe one of those who have taken the ferry might respond.  Everyone seems to have missed the question, they all seem rapped up in your good luck charm.

Ed,

Thank you for catching my question. I shall continue to hope any who have traveled on the ferries can help with my question of the potential for boondocking at Terminal or close by. 
I did get Jerry's answer, thanks.

Still considering myself Lucky, 
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 27, 2008, 07:00:51 PM
June 27, 2008  Bathhurst, New Brunswick     Shell Truck Stop  Exit 321 off Highway 11

 We traveled around the Gaspe Peninsula  today and crossed the bridge into New Brunswick. The entire highway  drive today was inhabited with nicely painted and landscaped charming homes. Folks were out painting their trim white or mowing vast yards.  We followed  around little coves and big bays with  views that are very serene. Today we noted a significant increase in RV traffic.  It is the Friday of a long holiday weekend for Canadians as Canada Day is Tuesday.  Upon departure from the Province of Quebec, we were happy to be back in the land of English speakers, but we did  enjoy our stay.

 I told you I have been   following Ardra and Jerry’s  Newfoundland log in forum library and noted that they warned of a low railroad bridge crossing. I wasn’t exactly certain where it was but….. today just after our bridge crossing, Hilda (our GPS missed a turn)  This lead us into  downtown  area to the VERY 3’8 meter underpass.  Given that we need 4 meters to cross under, I almost panicked.  Fortunately there was a right hand turn (truck route) we could make after a friendly driver backed up to allow us to swing over into his lane to make the turn.  Russ followed us right along. We saw the  large stainless steel sculpture of a salmon.  It looked like a nice city to stop and visit but we are making dash to catch our Ferry by Monday morning early. 

The highway into NB was smooth but we  noted many “Danger of Moose crossings”  signs.  This fact was made real when we came upon an accident.  A small car had a smashed windshield and dented front end and a large  moose lay dead behind his car.  My eyes combed the highway sides like windshield wipers  across the road from tree line to tree line following this reality at noon.

  We were headed to a Wal-mart for the night in  Bathurst but we passed an abandoned RV Sales lot in the same lot as a  Shell truck stop, that was huge and completely  empty so we’ve decided to boon dock  for the night .  We will fuel up here in the morning.   Terry walked over to the truck stop store and bought Puff Cheetos for his  snack.  Cheaper than a trip to Wal-mart but fuel in morning will  make up the difference.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 27, 2008, 08:08:07 PM
I'm keeping up with you in the library Betty  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on June 28, 2008, 01:36:53 PM
Betty,

Here's a thought.  When you arrive in Newfoundland you probably will have lost the satellite connection to the internet because you will be to far north and to far east at Argentia and even further at St. John's.  I think that you will be further away than you were when you were in Alaska.  That said if you have not already copied Ardra's Newfoundland news letter into your computer you might want to do it before you board the ferry because you may not be able to copy it while you're in Newfoundland.

On two trips to Newfoundland the furthest north that I saw anyone get the satellite TV or internet connection was about 50-75 miles north of the Port-aux-Basques ferry landing on the western side of Newfoundland.    While at the "Gros Morne RV Campground & Restaurant" (709) 458-3133 located at Rocky Harbor on Hwy 430 on the western side of Newfoundland one fellow even had a MotoSat round 3 meter dish and he could not keep the internet connected.  BTW, this campground is private (not provincial), it had excellent WiFi, 50 amp, it's a Good Sam park, and it's in the Trailer Life directory.  Ask the owner for a site out back that has a direct line of site view to his WiFi antenna, I did.  I mention WiFi because if you do get cut off the internet you can still write your newsletters, save them, and send them from this campground after you drive from east to west on Hwy 1 across Newfoundland.  OTOH, maybe Terry can get it to work...I hope he does!

You may want to stay 5 or more days in the St. John's area because its so full of things to do in St John's and the surrounding 40 mile radius so you might call the Pippy Park (709) 737-3669 for a reservation now that you know your arrival time.  The Pippy Park is usually crowed as is the one at Rocky Harbour because that are probably the best in Newfoundland.  For your info Argentia is about 80 miles from St. John's.

Keep havin' fun,

Jerry & Ardra too
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on June 28, 2008, 04:38:11 PM
Betty,

Here's a thought.  When you arrive in Newfoundland you probably will have lost the satellite connection to the internet because you will be to far north and to far east at Argentia and even further at St. John's.  I think that you will be further away than you were when you were in Alaska.  That said if you have not already copied Ardra's Newfoundland news letter into your computer you might want to do it before you board the ferry because you may not be able to copy it while you're in Newfoundland.


Betty, as you drive thru the Maritimes and approach a town, there are usually welcoming signboards with icons for the various services available. One of those icons, very frequently, is "@" and you will find internet available in that town, usually at (or outside) the library. Not as convenient as sitting in the coach, but we had internet connections almost daily traveling thru NS and NF. Also, there is a good free wi-fi connection on the pursers deck of the N. Sydney/Port aux Basque ferry.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 28, 2008, 07:43:56 PM
June 28, 2008  Amherst, Nova Scotia    Gateway Parklands (Passport America)  (902) ‘667-1106

We fueled up at our  overnight spot in NB  this morning. We paid $5.73 a gallon for diesel. The price dropped a few cents from last fuel up but our mileage was worse due to the  whoop-de-doos around the Gaspe Peninsula.  We traveled south along the coast of New Brunswick today.  Last night my navigators thought it was a good idea to  get off the “main  road” and travel the “scenic route” that was close to the water, Gulf of St Lawrence.   The main roads  Highways 8,  11 or 15 are wide  green tunnels of  pine trees and other green trees with pretty smooth roads.  So we get off.  Now it is a  very narrow green  tunnel with  very poor roads.  Terry’s video equipment  scooted forward in the overhead cupboard  and I could not keep the  door closed.  We  lost Russ as we were later out of the fuel stop.  From  Richibucto we were to turn toward the water.  We did.  The roads were local roads, much of it  one way construction and a long way to the shore.  We followed one road and I remarked “Terry I saw a sign that said 3’8 meters ahead.”  He said, “Sorry hon, I did not  see it.  Look at these big trucks coming toward us, it must be ok.”   Well about 4 miles later we come to  Richibucto Village with their  3’8 meter bridge. ( We need 4 meters to clear)  A VERY nice couple in a mini van that had been following us pulled up along side us and said, “We wondered when you would notice.  We were watching you. “ They gave us directions on a left turn to Indian  Island ( a reservation ) where we could turn around with only a short drive on a dirt road. We phoned Russ to warn him NOT to take our planned route. He thanked us as he was just about to enter the area.   He instead took another scenic route and came to his own short bridge near Shediac.  He had to unhook his toad and turn around in an abandoned business parking lot.   We crossed the border into Nova Scotia and easily arrived at Gateway Parklands  where we  swapped stories. Moral of this story, Do your touring in a car and not a 40 foot motor home  towing a vehicle.  We already knew this but needed the reminder!   Russ and I headed to the Visitors centers in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick as we are so close to both borders.  We armed ourselves with maps and tourist sights so that we know in advance of our destination.  We made an ATM stop, a   grocery stop at Sobeys a very nice grocery store and found the Snow white Laundromat where I later returned for this task. Amherst is a very historic City and we hope to return to see their historic  centers.  I snapped a few photos on the way to the laundry which you may enjoy. 

We have along day (260 miles)  in front of us to North Sydney where we have a Ferry crossing at 7:30 am Monday.  While at the Laundromat I learned we have crossed into another time zone and are now on Atlantic Time. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marc L on June 28, 2008, 07:58:36 PM
Hi Betty,

My friends are currently camped in a field along the water in Indian Island.  If I was not on call this weekend, that is where I would be as well.  I am glad you mentioned the bridges.  I will likely go there this summer and I have to check if I clear 3.8m or not.

Marc...
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 28, 2008, 08:10:54 PM
My friends are currently camped in a field along the water in Indian Island.  If I was not on call this weekend, that is where I would be as well.  I am glad you mentioned the bridges.  I will likely go there this summer and I have to check if I clear 3.8m or not.

Marc,
If I can save one RVer from the course corretion,  it will have been worth it!  It is a beautiful place.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on June 28, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
I split and moved the discussion on language and cultural differences (http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=17709.msg166816#msg166816) so we don't continue to dilute Betty's excellent trip report.

Apologies Betty, I'm as guilty as anyone else of hijacking the discussion.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Dave R on June 29, 2008, 07:30:48 AM
Depending on what time you arrive at the ferry I thinik you should be able to stay at the terminal. Especially if you
arrive kind of late in the evening. Spend a little time in Baddeck and have dinner in St. Anns and that should put you
at the terminal about right.

There is a nice rv park at Doyles, between Port Aux Basque and Corner Brook. Sorry the name of it escapes me at
the moment even though we have stayed there many times

If you plan on staying at Pippy Park in St. Johns you will need to make reservations there as soon as you have an idea
of when you will be there. It stays full in the summer time.

There is a great park in Windsor/Grand Falls NL called Sanger Memorial Park. The story is that there was an American that
had some relatives that lived in that area and there was never a good campground or decent place to park his RV, so
when he passed away he left the town some money to bulid a campground. He must have left them some directions
also, because it is a nice place.

In Gander NL we always stay at the Village Motel and Campground. No near as nice as Sanger Park, but not bad. Many of
the caravans stay there.

In Argentia NL there is nothing there except the ferry terminal. It used to be a US Navy base and I was stationed there for
two and a half years back in the 60's. There was plans to put a campground there where the old base housiing was, but I
don't know if it was ever built. When the Airstreamers come they stay in the school yard in Placdentia.
I would not take the motorhome to the bird sanctuary at Cape St. Marys. They cape shore road is very hilly, crooked and narrow.
The road out to the bird sactuary is one lane with extreamly DEEP ditches on either side. In the summer the probablity of fog
(pea soup) at the bird sanctuary is very high.

There is a wildlife park in Salmonier Line if you are into wildlife. You can go whale watching from St. Johns, or perhaps a little
cheaper from Witless Bay.

Have a safe trip. We will be in Placentia from 7/26 until............when ever we decide to leave. I think our return ferry reservations
are for 8/28. We come and go through Port Aux Basque so we can visit relatives along the way.

Dave

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on June 29, 2008, 09:29:13 AM
Betty:

When you get to St Johns I'll be waiting for a MotoSat check. I checked the footprint for SatMex 5 and it still shows a good signal strength on the east end of NL.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on June 29, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
Unfortunately, we're away in Ottawa keeping grandkids, so we didn't get the chance to see the Breweres on their way over, but Dave we should be around when you lift achor and sail for the mainland, and may even be around on their return trip.  The cottage is in Shediac, only a half hour from the Fixed Link to PEI.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on June 29, 2008, 04:26:26 PM
Quote
we have crossed into another time zone

And when you get off the ferry in Argentia you'll be on Newfoundland Time which is one-half hour earlier than Atalantic Time.  So, you'll be four and one-half hours earlier than us on the west coast.   It'll drive you nuts getting satellite TV - until you can't get reception - and then you won't have to worry about it.  ;)

Isn't it funny that those of us who have been driving these big RVs for many years still need an occasional reminder that sightseeing is not always feasible in one.  ;)

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on June 29, 2008, 06:47:45 PM
June 29, 2008  North Sydney, Nova Scotia      Large  Dirt lot up hill from Zellers Market.


We headed across Nova Scotia toward North Sydney in a driving mode to  make time and did not try any of the scenic drives.  YET this Province looks just like I had it pictured.  Everything is green and the wild lupine of purple,  lavender and pink paint the sides of the road with a spectacular array of color.  Lots of little wildflowers are in bloom along the highway.  There are lots of coves, rivers and things to do upon our return in a month.

 Once again we were reminded that we share the road with the wildlife.  We came upon an accident where a motorcycle had hit a deer.  A white sheet lay  spread out along side the road and I feared the worst.  But as we passed I could see 4  deer legs sticking out from under the sheet and we heard from Russ who was  25 minutes ahead of us, that he had seen the motorcyclist  elevating his knee and ambulances on their way.   It’s bad enough to hit a deer while driving in a car, but on a motorcycle…….( you guys be careful out there)

The day became more and more gloomy and overcast and as we pulled into the Ferry terminal .  Once in the toll lanes we learned that  there were 2 ferries ahead of us and that we could not stay in their lot overnight.  He opened a gate and we squeaked out of that lot in search of a mall we had been told about  .  It is now pouring rain but we happened onto a very large vacant lot across from the Zellers Market .  The wind is blowing very hard and we have a scattered signal that comes and goes.  The locals tell us it was 90 degrees last week.  It never got over 52 today.

The Ferry we are about to board in the morning will take us 266 miles and will take 14 hours.  I hope to get to read  my book , Pillars of the Earth so I can return it to Lorna in November.  With this wind I’ll also wish for calm seas in the morning! 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on June 29, 2008, 09:57:39 PM
I hope to get to read  my book , Pillars of the Earth so I can return it to Lorna in November.  With this wind I’ll also wish for calm seas in the morning! 

I stopped reading last night at page 486.  Checked this morning and find I'm exactly half way through the book.  What a fascinating story!  We're in the process of moving right now and I'm eager to get back to "leisure retirement time" so I can read more.  However, it seems "leisure retirement time" becomes more of an oxymoronic phrase with each passing year of retirement.  :D

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 01, 2008, 02:20:03 PM

June 30, 2008  Aboard the  (long 14 hour) Ferry from Nova Scotia to Newfoundland

I’m composing this log on board the Marine Atlantic  Ferry from North Sydney , Nova Scotia to Argentia, Newfoundland.  We had a 7:30 am sailing and  arrived at the dock by 6 am.  After providing our reservation  number, we paid our toll by credit card at the small toll booth.  The  fare was $ 775.61 for two adults (non senior) and 60 feet of space for our motor home and car.  This does not include our ferry ride back on July  31.  It was a very efficient boarding, drive on and we will drive off.  No need to unhook the car.  There were several RV’s in line , lots of travel trailers and even more pop up trailers with bicycles attached.  We gathered up the  stuff we need to take up top to the passenger lounges, you know apples, granola bars ,cell phone, chargers, computer, blankets, pillows, coats, hats jackets.  This is after all a 14 hour voyage and  we need our stuff!   The guys had breakfast while I  got my sea legs and visited the gift shop. 

I had heard from Bernie about the  possibility of a wi-fi hot spot and asked the purser but it seems their satellite broke yesterday so no signal..  But as long as my batteries last I will share my story with you and find a signal later to send out messages.   I noted “The Bucket List” is being shown  at the Movie theatre on board at 9 pm Newfoundland time.  It’s a movie that is on my must see list but I calculated that we could not finish the movie as we were to arrive in port by 9:30.  To my surprise I learned we should have been notified  that due to engine trouble we are not expected to arrive before  midnight which makes this a 17.5 hour ride.  Oh boy.  Terry just learned that at 2 pm today we have a vehicle visitation time and we can go get things from motor home.  I’ll get my pillow and a blanket as well as my seasick medication!   We settled into comphy airline type lounge seats in the front row which were just fine until they put on a cartoon movie on the TV  in front of us and the place filled with Children.  We moved over to a lovely  window dinette seating area away from the kids and with a table here for my lap top.  It has good light for reading my book.

OK so this boring ride in pea soup fog and  high waves is not as much fun as it was a few hours ago.   We’ve heard the bad news that we are operating with one less engine,( whether the rumor is that is its to conserve fuel or not, ) we do not know.  The ETA has been pushed back to 1:45 am.   Well finally at 1:45 am  we hear the announcement to got to our vehicles.  We  unloaded that Ferry is record time. No one hesitated, just fired up engines and drove off. 
Yes but to where?  We left the bowels of this gigantic vessel to enter the complete darkened wetness of night.  We had no vision.  We never drive at night and here we were headed down an unlined road, wet  somewhat foggy road.  We lost sight of the cars  in front of us so we were the lead vehicle going about 30 miles and hour trying to get a fix on anything to our right or left. Russell comes on CB to announces that we should pull over at first chance to let the mile line up of cars behind us go by.  Yes we are trying!!!! In a few minutes and several harrowing miles, we found a  pull off at a scenic look out.  There was one little car with a cargo trailer in it but we pulled off and told Russ to follow us in very close by our side.  We are  parked for the night!  Whew.  Note to others coming this way.  It might be better to board a ferry that arrives in daylight hours.  But then with the unannounced delay of 4.5 hours, your best laid plans could go astray.  One must remain flexible.   We awaken to a beautiful view but I’ll save that story for tomorrow.






Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 01, 2008, 05:43:46 PM
Betty, take heart.  That's exactly the same situation we enountered getting off one ferry and eventually parking in front of a church.  It was rainy and we were looking for a gas station we had been told about, but the lights had been turned off and we couldn't see it as we passed it and I couldn't turn around and had a huge line of cars behind us.  Thankfully the GPS showed us which side roads were dead ends and which ones we could use to "go around the block" only it was many miles.  The lights on that little Presbyterian Church were never so welcome!   A true beacon in the night.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 01, 2008, 06:31:22 PM
July 1, 2008  Canada Day  St. Johns, Newfoundland, CA   Pippy Park  (709)737-3655   Loop 4 (only one that works)


When I awakened this morning I wanted to open the blinds right away and see the spot we had chosen in the wee dark  hours of the night.  While it was a bit foggy we could see that we were high above a cove and the viewpoint was entitled  Seven Island Lookout because there were 7 lovely rocky little islands in this bay.  We got underway and headed for Pippy Park in St John’s , the  capitol of Newfoundland which was only 78 miles from our overnight near the ferry.   We had an easy check-in and paid for 7 nights.  I had done all reservations in advance by phone and this speeds up the process.  Unfortunately we were given sites deep within the trees and with such narrow roads we could in NO way make it into the site.  Terry wanted me to go get our money back and we were leaving!  But Russ in the meantime had scouted  another section of the park and we moved to  Loop 4 which is a lovely open area with all pull through spaces and no trees, rocks  or obstructions.  They also said they had wi-fi up here.  The price is $39 a night but we wanted no part of those tree lined family camp sights with  lots of children on bicycles, tricycles and big wheels scaring us  on the road so we bit the bullet and paid the price.

Our first stop was downtown area to the Visitor Center.  Everything is very crowded with Canada Day festivities.  We learned first hand about their crazy intersections, one way streets and limited parking.  I noted  multicolored buildings,  an active harbor and the Signal Hill which will all be explored in the coming days.   

Late in the evening the sun came out and we noted that if it’s sunny tomorrow we will take a drive around the Irish Loop and the Cape Shore to take advantage of a non rainy day.(we hope)   
We can only get local news stations, having lost our TV satellite.  The news of the evening  featured  the celebrations across all of the Provinces of Canada that began first at sunrise in St John’s as it catches the first light of day on Canada.  In fact we are now ½ hour earlier than Atlantic Time.  So if it is noon here in Newfoundland, my friends in California and Arizona will be 7:30 a.m.

The news caster shared  stores and ceremonies of the Pride  that Canadians have for their wonderful country.    He commented, ”Canada is a decent  and tolerant country.  It has abolished Capitol punishment, recognizes same sex marriage and despite all of it’s faults has universal health care for all.  Here in Newfoundland July 1 is also Memorial Day and a big tribute was paid to  fallen  Canadian soldiers in a history of wars.

The wi-fi is flakey and I'll post pictures only when I have a good signal .
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on July 01, 2008, 10:02:17 PM
Betty:

After reading of your ferry ride I am more inclined to follow Dave's lead and use the Port Aux Basques ferry both ways. ;D

Are you on MotoSat or using the park's WIFI? Hope the weather improves for you.(And us).
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: mariekie on July 01, 2008, 10:08:36 PM
Betty,

What a fascinating report!!!!! As a side; if you have not read Annie Prouxl's "Shipping News", please do so. It is a wonderful book and it takes place on NL. Once you have explored the Province, you will be able to appreciate it so much more.

Enjoy your adventure and keep up the reports.

Mariekie
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 02, 2008, 06:29:21 AM
Jeff, although we haven't taken the Coach to NL, most of the local people that we know who have exclusively use the shorter run.  While you are doubling back, there are so many side trips, that it is very easy to plan it so that you don't do the same ones coming and going.  From what they're telling at home, the weather is finally improving, so hopefully those now in NL will enjoy decent weather, and it holds for your visit.
Betty, you must plan an evening trip to George Street while in St John's, there are more bars per square foot than anywhere else in the world, each with a unique atmostphere, and everyone a fun place to visit.  They stay open until the wee hours and the music is out of this world.  And if you're lucky, you will be "screeched in".  I'll leave the details for one of your future posts, but don't spoil it for Jeff's visit.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 02, 2008, 06:53:20 AM

Are you on MotoSat or using the park's WIFI? Hope the weather improves for you.(And us).

Jeff,

Despite hours of fiddling Terry could not get a signal on Motosat.  We are using the Park's Wifi.  It seems to be working this morning.  The sun is out and it is 60 degrees with promises to get even warmer.  It is windy and we ae goin' touring today! Jeff,  Terry said by taking the shorter ferry it will add about 560 miles to your trip as you  backtrack over same road twice. We calculated fuel prices and figured we were  a little better off with long ferry.  Now that I'm rested it was fun!  We'll take our time and do each road once rather than repeat.

Betty

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 02, 2008, 08:33:55 PM
July 2, 2008  Irish Loop Drive South of St. John’s  Newfoundland

Today we started our  tour of the  country side  at the reasonable hour of 10 am .  Russ filled up our tank  at $5.49 per gallon.  All fuel has to be ferried to this island so it has historically been  10 cents per gallon more .   We managed the one way and irregular streets of downtown and  made it to the loop toward our first stop, Cape Spear National Historic Site of Canada. It is the most easterly point in Canada and in all of  North America.  It is home of the oldest lighthouse in Newfoundland and Labrador.  As we rounded a curve and the hillside came into sight with the coast in the background all of us let out a gasp, as  it was that spectacular.  We stopped to photograph the crashing waves on the black cliff filled with rocks.  The water was crystal clear and had the blue of the Caribbean Sea in them.  The white foam contrasted the cliffs with stark beauty.  We walked around the sight and let the  beauty of this wonderfully clear blue day sink in!   There were hundreds of steps to the lighthouse that  met my exercise quotient for the day!  We soaked up all of the scenery we could and moved on. We marveled at the little villages along the cliffs that have  wonderful fishing harbors.

 By this time we were hungry and found Gatherall’s in Bay Bulls.  They offer a boat tour out to see whales and puffins.  We want to  do that trip this week ,  so we checked them out.  They had a delightful restaurant in an imposing big blue building.  We had linen table cloths, fresh lilacs, nice silverware and the best lunch.  We recommend this place highly.

 On ward in our tour of the Irish Loop,  Russ  shouted,” Stop, stop.”  I thought he was having a coronary but he  had spotted a huge white iceberg in the next little bay. Terry did  a u-turn and  we made our way down a small road to view this iceberg up close and personal.  We marveled at this chunk of ice that we were later told is a regular occurrence.  Icebergs break away  each year and the only thing unusual about them would be the speed with which they melt.  It is not a sign of global warming!

 In the Colony of Avalon we veered off to a side road to   explore an archeological dig of a 17th century colony .  On our way up a very  steep narrow road we  came to  a place to park.  Russ shouts ,“Whales, whales.“  Terry and I marched out across marshy tundra like  area and come to a cliff where off in the Atlantic we can see several whales swimming  playfully.  Not only are their spouts visible but they surface and we can see their fins and tales.  What a thrill.  I even was prepared enough to have my binoculars with me.  I could have watched all day except that we had miles to go before our loop was completed.  Much of the excitement of this day was due to the fact that we had no expectation, so every sight was a thrill.  We  passed by a good size fox in the front yard of a  village home.  We watched fog roll into a community with the wind and then in 10 minutes it was clear again. We stopped to take photos of interesting little  sights along the way like a miniature village in a stream along the road.  The  coastline is that of postcards and if this is all I ever got to see of Newfoundland it would be enough.  It was a memorable “Bucket List” kind of day. 

I’ve booked us  on the City tour of St John’s in the morning.  The double-decker bus no longer runs but the Legends Tour will pick us up from the RV Park.  This way Terry can enjoy the trip as a passenger. 


Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on July 02, 2008, 08:42:14 PM
...  Terry said by taking the shorter ferry it will add about 560 miles to your trip as you  backtrack over same road twice. We calculated fuel prices and figured we were  a little better off with long ferry.  ...

I'm not following your math.  Assuming you only get 6 mpg and that fuel is $6 per gallon -- that's $1.00 per mile or $560 for the road backtrack.  The ferry was $776.  Seems like the road route would be $216 cheaper.  You would have to only get 4.3 mpg for it to come out the same cost.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on July 02, 2008, 09:02:35 PM
Kodiak:

We still have the ferry costs from Port AUX Basques to Sydney which IIRC is a little over three hundred.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 02, 2008, 09:17:02 PM
I'm not following your math.  Assuming you only get 6 mpg and that fuel is $6 per gallon -- that's $1.00 per mile or $560 for the road backtrack.  The ferry was $776.  Seems like the road route would be $216 cheaper.  You would have to only get 4.3 mpg for it to come out the same cost.  Am I missing something?

Kodiak,

  I don't even want to figure  the exact cost of every mile as I likely would not get out of bed!  We've made the comittment for  this trip and it will cost us a bundle but leave us with a priceless memories.  I don't do the math I just do the  journal! 

 But here goes an try...We took the long Ferry $776. going and will take short ferry back, $355  for a total of $1131.  We cannot drive the nearly 600 extra miles to take the  ferry out of the same place for the difference in cost. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tim & Jan on July 02, 2008, 09:42:51 PM
July 2, 2008  Irish Loop Drive South of St. John’s  Newfoundland

 On ward in our tour of the Irish Loop,  Russ  shouted,” Stop, stop.”  I thought he was having a coronary but he  had spotted a huge white iceberg in the next little bay. Terry did  a u-turn and  we made our way down a small road to view this iceberg up close and personal.  We marveled at this chunk of ice that we were later told is a regular occurrence.  Icebergs break away  each year and the only thing unusual about them would be the speed with which they melt.  It is not a sign of global warming!


Betty, Terry & Russ

That iceberg must have been a beauty when it left Greenland to still be a good size near St Johns this time of year. We went all the way to St. Anthony hoping to see an iceberg on our trip, but saw nothing. We are so jealous, but happy for you. Hope the rest of the trip goes as well. Enjoying your reports, keep on logging.

Jan & Tim
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on July 02, 2008, 10:32:33 PM
  I don't do the math I just do the  journal! 
 

And you do it beautifully.  :D   Keep on journaling ... we're right there with you all the way.   :D

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: vlady daddy on July 03, 2008, 12:14:12 AM
KodiakRV,

As Jeff mention, you have to subtract $355 from $776 on the in-bound ferry ride to compare both routes. At this point, Betty spent $421 more on the ferry. But using the other route, you have to add another $560 to the round trip. You have to average 8 mpg at $6 per gallon on the round trip to break even.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on July 03, 2008, 06:12:37 AM
7/2 At last, a day of sun and 75 F. We did the Irish loop drive of near 200 miles S from St Johns. Filled the car with gas...$73!

First stop, Cape Spear, the easternmost point of North America. As we rounded the last curve there was our first dramatically lovely scene of clear blue water, waves crashing whitely on the rocky shore, a treeless windswept hill with 2 lighthouses.

...bay. Lunch stop was a great find. A blue bldg on the left side of the port. A tour bus was just leaving as we arrived. The dining room on the upper floor had a good view and the food sublime.

As we drove downcoast there were numerous small rocky bays, each with a fishing port and village. 2 of them had resident icebergs! Another had an archeological dig of the first town on the island. Here we found a pod of 20 or more small whales feeding near shore.

The houses tend to be boxy with shallow roofs and are called biscuit houses, often brightly colored. Firewood can be harvested for personal use from provincial forests so rather large stacks are seen next to most rural homes. One memorable stack was bent around the garage as a fence. In front of that house was a river stone berm wall brightly painted. And then, next door we saw a red fox statue stationed beside a small pond...till it moved!

As we drive along, there have been several roadside displays of local craftwork: 3 ft high sailing ships in the Gaspe, 2 ft long fishing boats in New Brunswick, bird houses in Nova Scotia. On today's drive we saw one collection of a dozen 1-2 ft long boats and ships moored in a small pond by the road. 50 miles later there was a complete village along a creek. It even had washing hung out to dry! Next there was a yard filled with brightly painted driftwood figures.

At the south end of our trip we crossed a stretch of treeless tundra dotted with innumerable ponds of all sizes. Caribou can be found here. Fog and cold greeted us at the southernmost seashore. All along the way were warning signs for moose. Luckily we saw none.

7/3 8 AM After worrying and watching out for moose all day, yesterday, A full grown female comes charging down the berm in front of my coach (had to have crossed the major street-Allendale, to get here) and headed across the CG, passing right next to my coach. Terry B got a "butt" shot of her as she headed for the trees.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 03, 2008, 07:09:51 AM
One of the things that always amazed us are the way they fence their gardens to keep the animals out, as opposed to fencing animals in.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: chick a dee on July 03, 2008, 09:56:31 AM
G'morning Folks: Your journey log is absolutely WONDERFUL!!  Thank you. Thank you. My wife and I have been planning to take our MH and toad to Newfoundland for some time and your descriptions (and attendant info) have "sealed the deal".... your writing is simply GREAT and we're definitely going to spend next summer (hopefully...or the next one) out there!! We've been full-timing in our rig since late 2005 and travel with our 3 cats. Spent last summer up in beautiful Alaska and are spending this summer visiting family/relatives here in South Dakota and then up in Duluth, Minnesota before heading to winter in Florida where our son lives. We're brand new members of this RV Forum and are sure glad we stumbled onto this site. We'll be following your log closely, and...Thanks again.  Steve & Lynette
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 03, 2008, 11:30:19 AM
Betty,

You're right on with regard to the cost; don't even add it up until you're home because this trip may even exceed your Mexican and Alaskan trips in the pleasure you get from it.  As an Economist might say you'll get more UTILS from this trip than any other.    BTW, our 3-1/2 month Newfoundland trip cost us a grand total of $20,000.  Yes we spent a total of US$20,000.

We did not see any Icebergs and are glad you did.  This bodes well for St Anthony because you may see bigger ones there.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on July 03, 2008, 02:00:02 PM
Ardra,

I bet that $20,000 was not with fuel at $5-$6 a gallon either.  I think Tim has budgeted higher than that for our trip to the Maritimes next summer.  But like I mentioned before, we'll go if God's willing and the creek don't rise.  I think I should also add and if the fires don't spread..... ;D

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on July 03, 2008, 02:06:20 PM
we'll go if God's willing and the creek don't rise.  I think I should also add and if the fires don't spread..... ;D

Marsha~

And if any of those things happen, you should probably go anyway !!

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 03, 2008, 02:16:35 PM
Marsha,

The diesel varied from US$4.00 to US$4.25 per U.S. gallon when we went there in the Summer of 2006.  If you two are into racing at all stop by for the INDY 500 on your way.  It was great and it's on the way.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: carson on July 03, 2008, 02:52:21 PM
Sorry for butting in...

   Anyone in the Canada trip contemplating visiting LUNENBURG in Nova Scotia, the original home of the Bluenose Sailing vessel. Quaint little town with lots of history and a lot of photo opportunities.

   I was there in the late seventies on business.

carson FL
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 03, 2008, 03:41:14 PM
Marsha,

What Jerry left out was that the $20,000 was spent over a five month period.  It began in mid-April at Moab, then east to WI, IN, MI, one month going across Ontario and Quebec, one month in Newfoundland and Labrador, then New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, back to the U.S. and south to SC, back up to VA, PA, and then west to OR, CA, and then NV and home in mid-September.  It was a long trip of 13,397 miles in 142 days and that mileage was only for the motorhome.  We didn't even keep track of the toad's miles but it was probably half that of the motorhome or around 7,000 miles so the total miles driven was probably about 20,000 miles.  Once you look at all the things we did and where we went in that time, the cost doesn't seem so bad.  It included fuel up to US$4.25 per U.S. gallon, admissions to numerous parks, restaurant meals, visits to family and framily, and even my 50th high school reunion.  I wouldn't trade that trip for anything!  It was wonderful - one of the best we've ever taken!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 03, 2008, 04:19:40 PM
Betty,

That little village alongside the stream is darling!  And it looks unbelieveably like some of the real villages.  You sound like it's great so far.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 03, 2008, 04:26:46 PM
As I've told anyone who's asked, any visit to Nova Scotia requires a trip to the South Shore.  Lunenburg is a UNESCO Heritage site, and is quite unique, Mahone Bay has a most delightfull waterfront, with 3 chuches along the Bay, and the drive down the LaHave River to Riverport, across the Ferry, with a stop at the bakery for fresh bread, and a stop at the lighthouse first established by Champlain.  These are all must sees, but can be done along with Peggy's Cove in a day's run in the Toad.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 03, 2008, 05:27:52 PM
And don't forget the totally renovated citadel at Louisbourg and Grand Pre.  We were at Louisbourg right after they finished the renovation and it was very well done.  Grand Pre has a beautiful little chapel built with funds contributed by Acadians from around the world.  It has six wonderful paintings that depict how the Acadians were removed from Canada.  This entailed splitting up families.  The paintings are very moving and show their plight beautifully.  The statue of Evangeline is also there.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on July 03, 2008, 05:52:20 PM
Ardra,

Our plans for next year are to start out with the Hop, Skip & Jump in Utah, then head on toward Indiana for a wedding the 30th of May; then another wedding in Canada on Manitoulin (sp?) Island the following weekend JUne 6th.  After that we will continue on east into the Maritimes and not return to Calif until Sept/Oct.  So Tim's budget may be pretty accurate.  We also do lots of eating out, sightseeing, park admissions etc.  However, we'll probably do more staying in one place to get the weekly and long term rates to help offset the fuel increase.

Re the 500.  We have dear friends in Indianapolis and always try to work in a visit with them, but with these weddings I don't think we'll be in the area during the 500; most likely right before it.

With everyone's posts about what to see and where to go in the Maritimes; it's great for those coming along later.

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on July 03, 2008, 06:18:12 PM
Ardra,

I think I should also add and if the fires don't spread..... ;D

Marsha~

Marsha:

If your new house burns down maybe God is telling you to full time. ::)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: carson on July 03, 2008, 06:24:58 PM
Hello again Newfie travelers....

   Below is a fun post from some time ago, which I posted then with the greatest respect for all Newfie Moms. It is  Canadian humor.


A NEWFIE MOTHER WRITING TO HER SON

My Dear Son,

   Just a few lines to let you know that I’m still alive. I am writing this letter slowly because I know that you can’t read fast. You won’t know the house when you come home-----we’ve moved.

   It was a lot of trouble moving---the most difficult thing was the bed. You see the man wouldn’t let us take it in the taxi. It wouldn’t have been too bad if your father hadn’t been sleeping in it at the time.
   About your father---he has a lovely new job. He has 500 men under him. He’s cutting the grass at the Cemetery.
   Your sister got herself engaged to that fellow she’s been going out with. He gave her a beautiful ring with three stones missing.

   Our neighbours, the Brown’s, started to keep pigs. We got the wind of it this morning. I got my appendix out and a dishwasher put in.
   There was a washing machine in the new house when we moved in, but it isn’t working too good. Last week I put 4 shirts into it---pulled the chain---and haven’t seen the shirts since.
   Your little brother came home from school yesterday crying. All the boys in his school have new suits. We can’t afford to buy him a new suit, but we’re going to buy him a new hat and let him look out the window.
   Your sister Mary had a baby this morning. I haven’t heard yet whether it’s a boy or a girl, so I don’t know whether you’re a Aunt or a Uncle.
   Your Uncle Dick was drowned last week in a vat of whiskey in Dublin Brewery. Four of his workmates dived in to save him but he fought them bravely off. We creamated his body and it took three days to put out the fire.

   Kate is now working in a factory in Birmingham. She’s been there now for six weeks. I’m sending her some clean underwear as she’s in the same shift since she started.
   Your father didn’t have too much to drink at Christmas. I put a bottle of castor oil in his pint of beer. It kept him going till New Year’s Day. I went to the Doctor on Thursday, your father came with me. The Doctor put a small glass tube in to my mouth and told me not to open it for ten minutes. Your father offered to buy it from him.
   It only rained twice last week. First for 3 days and then for 4. Monday was so windy that one of our chickens laid the same egg four times.
   We had a letter yesterday from the undertaker. He said if the last installment wasn’t paid on your Grandmother within 7 days, up she comes.
   I must close now---because the plumber is coming here to repair the pipes and there’s a shocking smell.

                  YOUR LOVING MOTHER   
P.S. I was going to send you $10, but I had already sealed the envelope.


 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on July 03, 2008, 07:03:18 PM
Jeff,

If the house burns down, I'll be forced to fulltime; and probably love every minute of it; cause all the stuff I wanted to keep will be gone..... :o

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 03, 2008, 08:46:53 PM
July 3, 2008  St John’s City Tour ,NL

This morning Russ yelled on CB before I had even had my breakfast.  I could not imagine what had him so excited at that hour.  I glanced out RV window to see the tallest moose I have ever seen prancing through our Park. Terry rushed outside for a photo but only got a butt shot.  What a thrill this early in the morning. We later learned there are over 120,000 moose on the island but no wolves, deer, skunk, porcupine.   We met our  guide , Brendan McQuillan of   Legends Tours who had a 9 passenger  mini van at the gate of our Pippy RV Park.  I highly recommend this city tour.  It is Legend Tours (709) 753-1497.  Brendon was our very Irish guide who is born and raised in Newfoundland.   He knows his city and helped make this beautiful place come alive for us.  We ventured out to Cape Spear for a repeat of yesterday’s visit but this time with narration of it’s history.  The day was a bit more overcast than yesterday so  sea did not have the  Caribbean blue color but waves were just as majestic.  We moved on to Petty Harbor to learn about cod fishing and how the fishing is just one part. The fixing fish is critical and  cod has been historically the most important reason that  Newfoundland was settled.  The Queen even required fish to be eaten twice weekly so the demand was great. It was salted and dried before refrigeration  techniques.

 We toured the many colorful buildings and streets of downtown  St John’s a city  said to be handsomely historic and stylishly new.  The streets were originally planned for horse trails so they are not very wide and they are very haphazard.  Welcome to a city laid out in 1497.  It is the oldest  European community in North America that has been continuously  occupied.  There were no natives here when founded but natives can be found  on the west side of the Island.  The combined population of Labrador and Newfoundland is just under 500,000.  St John’s has about 200,000.  The major industries are oil, fishing and tourism.  There is also nickel mining.  There is very little crime. The winters last 9 months and Newfoundland has the windiest days  by velocity in all of Canada.   In fact they no longer run any trains as the wind blew them over! The former train station is now a Train Museum. They  have the same amount of sunny days as Prince Edward Island.  Did you know that St. John’s is on the same  latitude as Seattle and Paris? 

We toured Cabot Tower that is on top of Signal Hill, named because of the signal flags ships used to identify themselves  when coming into this beautiful Harbor.  We were able to see the Signal Hill Tattoo.  Military cadets,  recreated the training drills used by the British Soldiers.  The fife  and drum core had my heart pounding to the cadence and I recalled my days as a drill team captain.  Soldiers practiced daily in readiness for the type of  war waged by marching almost face to face with the enemy troops.  This drill was a treat narrated to provide historical accuracy.  Too  bad my short term memory is shot and I can’t recall all the  details to share with you.  I do recall that the Red Coats  wore bearskin hats with a big  plume that had a  golden strip with the words “Difficult is not daunting”  as a motto. The views from atop this hill are impressive, interesting and inspiring.  One can see Fort Amherst and the harbor below and it is again another post card setting.

We had lunch at  Papas Pier 17 recommended by our guide.  Yummy Greek salads and French onion soup. 

I’ll only hope that my words about this city might bring you here to visit.  Brendon fears tourism is going to be way down this year due to fuel prices.   A caravan filled our park this afternoon with visitors from Quebec so maybe things will pick up!  As a footnote, if you read the “Fitzgerald’s in Newfoundland” journal in the RVForum library , you will get an extensive perspective from Ardra’s writings on St John‘s from July 1 to July 5.  I hope I get to see and do all that they managed.
 

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on July 03, 2008, 09:23:18 PM
....  I glanced out RV window to see the tallest moose I have ever seen prancing through our Park. Terry rushed outside for a photo but only got a butt shot.  ...

Sounds like Terry is getting pretty good at those.   :D

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 04, 2008, 03:48:07 PM
July 4, 2008  St John’s Tourist Places NL

Today is our 11th wedding anniversary.  However there will be no fireworks for us as Canadians just don’t seem to celebrate our American Independence Day the same way we do.  While it is actually  11 years of marriage we claim to have  been a couple for 24 years.  We will take a late dining reservation at  Blue on Water a downtown restaurant recommended to us by a fellow  Newfoundland traveler here in our RV Park .  She gave us this tip along with another we followed today.  Our first touristy thing of the day was a private tour at IOT.  So what is  IOT you ask? 

It is an Institute for  Ocean Technology funded by the National Research Council of Canada.  It is a Canadian Governmental operation of world class status.  Only 3 such sites operate on earth. Adam was our personal tour guide and he presented the tasks completed by this outfit with articulation , enthusiasm and had me in awe.  The IOC is a research and testing  organization for things that would go in the water like  ships, barges, oil rigs .  The guys seeking the America‘s  Cup would  hire them to test the design of their  latest sailing vessels.  Scale models are built and then tested using the most scientific computer simulated instrument imaginable.   Submarines are tested here as well as ice barges.  They have huge tanks the length of 3 football fields to have scale models pass through and test the speed, design, buoyancy and what ever else they may want to test.  They can recreate an ice field  as found in oceans. Did you know ice has lots of different forms?  Ice formed  in the ocean is not salt water, as the freezing process removes the salt.  We stepped into a room that was -25 degrees where it take about 7 hours to form the level and density of ice they want to recreate on this huge indoor tank.  They  can move their model through it to see how the propeller will react the strength , speed etc. It was fascinating. A huge machine that tools the synthetic models was purchased from Romania for $800,000.  I would never have  guessed Romania had such precision instrumentation. They had a machine to make waves and emulate ocean current in  a 17 million liter  tank.  It can make wind and currents to match conditions at sea to give the old boat a good test!  I had no idea  things were tested on this scale before they were even built.   Much of the research is top secret so we had to check our cameras at the desk.  No photos of this but you should write down (709) 772-4366 for a  schedule  private tour that is best of all FREE.

After lunch we visited the Johnson Geo Centre touted as “The earth’s Geological Showcase.”   It was the finest museum I have ever seen with regard to the formation of the earth, the Tectonic plate  explanation and it highlighted the significance of  Newfoundland as a place where history revealed itself . I am becoming so much more aware of the historical significance of this Atlantic Island.  The series of videos, small feature films, full length documentaries could have taken up a full day.  In addition they had a portion dedicated to facts regarding the loss of the Titanic that was lost only 350 miles off the coast of Newfoundland. A series of poor decisions by humans was  clearly the  cause of  a terrible  scene. I learned the Titanic had  nine transmission of eminent danger that were ignored!  Blame fell to  the Captain,  the crew, the  builders and owners of this ship for this disaster.

Outside the Geo center I saw examples of the rocks of Newfoundland in their natural state and in their polished form.  No wonder granite counters are so expensive, it took almost 400 million years to make it! 

Our mail did not arrive today so we hope it comes on Monday as there is no Saturday delivery.  If not we may have to stay another day or so.  No problem for  me.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 04, 2008, 06:27:13 PM
Betty & Terry,

Happy Anniversary to both of you. Ardra and I remember well that we met you two when you arrived at the Estes Park Centerpoint RV Forum rally.  As we remember it the two were married on your way to Estes Park, Colorado.  It's been a good run!

We love your EXCELLENT pictures and they remind us so much of our trip. Lucky you...seeing the Geo Center.  When we were there they had a fire inside the building the day before and were closed for an unknown amount of time.  Maybe that's an excuse to again return to St John's.

Jerry & Ardra
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on July 04, 2008, 06:37:08 PM
Happy Anniversary guys - 11 years, 24 years, either way, time flies when you're having fun ! And it sounds like you're having a lot of fun on this trip !

Keep the reports coming when you can and enjoy
Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: moreaual on July 04, 2008, 08:16:57 PM
Finally got around to checking-up on your trip.  It's been hectic for me to get anything done, with recuperating from the surgery and the broken foot.  Surely, enjoyed your visit, and now you got both Cooch and I going on a trip to Newfoundland, sounds so interesting. 
I am including a photo (hope this post works out, this time...) I tried to get some good photos of the Chateau Montebello when we were boating on the Ottawa River the other day, but they did not turn out so well.  I really need to read-up on my camera instructions, we surely enjoyed your slide presentation, Terry... I am envyous!
Happy Anniversary from both of us and many more !!
Annette & Fern
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: moreaual on July 04, 2008, 08:19:25 PM
Oops ! here is the photo I promised !
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Dick on July 04, 2008, 09:52:57 PM
Hi Terry & Betty,

Happy Anniversary!!!!

We remember very well when you were married. It was the only year we forgot our number 1 Grandson's birthday!!!! We did call him today and he is now 18! Hope you had a great day.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 05, 2008, 07:08:29 AM
  Surely, enjoyed your visit, and now you got both Cooch and I going on a trip to Newfoundland, sounds so interesting. 
I am including a photo (hope this post works out, this time...)
Annette,

Thank you for the well wishes and the photo.  We have such fond memories of our visit to Ottawa.  Yes yes  do come to Newfoundland.  You are so much closer to get here that we are.  It is simply awesome. We are on the routes taken by Adventure Caravans by following their brochure.  There is a Caravan here in our park with labels FQCC on them .  Have you heard of that outfit? Most of their license plates are Quebec. Hope your surgery heals up quickly and the  foot too.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 05, 2008, 05:29:36 PM
July 5, 2008 St John’s NL Shopping Day,  Rooms Museum

Russ and I  took off on a shopping spree mid day. He had heard (from the barista at a coffee shop)  the name of two jewelry stores where he was on a mission  to buy presents.  I went with him while Terry fixed our high definition TV thingy.  We managed to find the spots nicely .  Russ’ mission was accomplished and I  managed to get myself an anniversary present of a lovely coral  pendant and matching earrings. I managed a photo of Rosalie Row where we made our  purchases.

We drove past the location of  “Mile One” of the Trans Canadian Highway. It was at the  base of City hall and a tourist photo opportunity at best but we did see how many kilometers it is to Halifax and to  the North Pole.   Phoenix was not listed in their destinations.    From there Russ and I visited the Rooms Museum which is only 3 years old .  It is a 50 million dollar investment made from local provincial  funds.  It is built on the site of a former fort and when we entered we could easily see that the vantage point here would inform you of incoming  ships, friendly or foe.  The Museum sits imposingly  above the waterfront and it’s shape was described to us today.  It  is 3 rooms.  One houses an Art Gallery, another the National Archives and a third a Museum. All are joined under the same roof.  It is called the Rooms as that was the  place fisherman referred to when they brought in their catch and said they would be at the  room to “fix” the fish. The Museum is a wonder.  I was struck with many of the exhibits.  One was a collection of  building models  with animation and video  built  into it.  The Church with a bowling alley in it’s basement was my favorite. Photos were not allowed.  For fellow travelers coming this way…..go there!  I took photos out off  the small deck to get  city and harbor shots.

Despite the rain showers of the morning the day turned sunny and beautiful.  Weather is something one cannot predict. This afternoon,  I took a nice long walk trying to  reduce the calories from last nights anniversary dinner at   Blue on Water, a pricey but fantastic meal.  The place reminded me of a restaurant one would find in San Francisco, trendy  and special!   My navigators planned our upcoming trips if our mail comes on Monday!





Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 05, 2008, 05:50:58 PM
Betty,

Your picture of the houses was taken one block further down the hill from where we took our picture of the houses (see attached photo).  We both just loved those brightly colored houses.

It also appears that the "Where Canada Begins" sign has changed to the much nicer Mile 0 sign that Russ is standing next to (see attached photo).  The sign in the photo is the one that both the Nathans and Ardra & I photographed.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on July 05, 2008, 07:07:54 PM
Betty,

A lot of folks, myself included, are following along with yet another great trip report. Check out the number of views for this topic!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Dave R on July 06, 2008, 05:55:08 AM
There used to be many many of the brightly painted houses, especially in the outports. Alas, the vinal siding salesmen have also been
to the far reaches of the island and many of the brightly painted houses are now covered in vinal.

I was told that one reason for the brightly colored houses was that there was no tax on paint for the boats back in the day,
so when they bought paint for the boat they got enough to paint the house also. Sounds reasonable to me.

Dave
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on July 06, 2008, 10:10:25 AM
Betty,

Your picture of the houses was taken one block further down the hill from where we took our picture of the houses (see attached photo).  We both just loved those brightly colored houses.

It also appears that the "Where Canada Begins" sign has changed to the much nicer Mile 0 sign that Russ is standing next to (see attached photo).  The sign in the photo is the one that both the Nathans and Ardra & I photographed.

JerryF
The sign needs to change to "Wlhere Canada Begins in the East"

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 06, 2008, 05:42:45 PM
July 6, 2008 St John’s  Tourist  Day  of Rest

We had planned to  take the  Gatherall’s Puffin and Whale watch tour  in Bay Bulls but the weather was cloudy and cold so we rescheduled for tomorrow.  I wore my new jewelry and we visited the Flavarium which is an under water viewing point of a local stream filled with trout.  It was like visiting an aquarium except the subjects were not in an  enclosed structure.   This place was built underground  to capture a view of their  natural  setting.  While we did see many trout we  were disappointed in the overall experience.  We are spoiled tourists.  We did enjoy the  1.1 mile walk around the Flavarium as a chance walk  in a beautiful setting.

Since Terry had missed yesterdays Mile  0 point,  we returned today and noted that the place the FitzGerald’s and Nathans had seen was right  across a short driveway from the new sign. The plaque designating the start of  the Canadian Highway  was missing but we saw  the  plants and banner seen by Jerry and Terry Nathan.   We  trekked down an 89 step staircase to a desired lunch spot only to find it was closed on Sunday and then had to climb back up those 89 steps .  I was huffing and puffing but enjoyed the  exercise. 

I’d like to  take this opportunity to  share with you my perceptions of a few things.  Food costs are expensive here.  Consider,  this is an island where  most  food stuffs  need to be imported!  The packet of Uncle Ben’s Bistro rice that I purchased at a Wal-Mart in Michigan was $1.87.  I made the same purchase in Ottawa at $ 2. 17.  Today I saw it at Sobeys (the local Safeway) for $2.39.  This is not a complaint, as you get what you get when traveling.  I just wanted to let you know we have found costs high here in Newfoundland.  When having lunch out in a restaurant it can be  $30.  We have  now decided to make lunch out our main meal and have salads for dinner.  It is highly desirable to have cell  phone service while traveling. We have a Verizon service and for  an additional $20 per month we added Canadian Service.  A GPS is an essential for travel  here. St John’s is not  logical and “Hilda” has  guided us to our destinations with ease. 

A delightful young lady who is an employee of Pippy Park is doing a Master’s  thesis on Full timers and asked If she could interview me.  I will do this tomorrow.  She finds that the social phenomenon of full timers is not widely documented and her professors are delighted in her unique research project.  I gave her the forums’ address as a place to gain info.

We are still trying to talk Russ into joining us for the boat trip  tomorrow but he is convinced he will be seasick . 





Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 07, 2008, 04:27:41 PM
Betty, is that your new coral pendant in the Mile 0 photo?  Very nice!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on July 07, 2008, 05:46:11 PM
7/6 Sunday.Did the Killik coast trip N of St Johns and down the west side of the peninsula. In middle cove lots of people were at the stony beach waiting for the grunion equivalents to come ashore. Monday dolphin and whales were feasting on them offshore. Some of the villages have steep wooden slipways for hauling the dories out of the water.

It was cloudy all day and one shower fell on me. The villages near St Johns are now bedroom communities with upscale homes alone the ridges with an ocean view. They are bland colored because vinyl siding does not have any pzazz! I've read that the bright house paint custom occured because boat paint is/was untaxed...so they just bought extra for the house.

7/7 Monday. Sunny! Warm! In the morning I went to the east side of the harbor as far as I could, about oposite the tower on signal hill. Got good photos of the battery neighborhood, downtown, and the harbor. In the afternoon I went again to cape Spear and watched whales breaching far offshore.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 07, 2008, 07:25:31 PM
July 7, 2008 St John’s NL  Gatherall’s Boat Tour

The day was beautifully sunny  and we tried again to get Russ to join us on the  boat tour to see Puffins and Whales.  He declined and set off for his own sight seeing photographic day.  We took the 1:30 boat cruise out to the Witless Bay Reserve.  The guys on board were witty and played  neat Irish music.  I was hoping to see puffins and was unexpectedly  delighted in a showing of  humpback whales like no other.   They play in groups in this bay.  Once upon a time there were  estimated to be 150,000 whales off shores of  Newfoundland and then came the explorers and  whalers.  By  1970 there were only 1, 500  humpback whales left and they were now an endangered species .  Today their numbers have come back to 15,000 and they are considered a “species of interest.”   The bay provides rich nutrients for the whales who  usually travel in pairs or 3.   We witnessed the playfulness of the groups right off our boat today.  It was wonderful.  I had lots of water shots but managed to get a few whale tales.

Puffins are really short birds not quite  10 inches tall.  We did not see as many of them as we had expected and they are reported to be PP flyers.  This means Piss poor flyers.  They  make  several  take off tries to fly  as their body weight defy the laws of  physics .  The orange beaks  of the females are only evident during the mating season then they go back to gray beaks.  They lay their eggs in  nests in little holes they are able to bore in the side of  hills up to 6 feet deep .  They return to the same nest  year after year.  I bought  a post card of them to ensure I had a good photo.  Terry , with his telephoto lens got  shots of their environment.

We had another wonderful lunch at their restaurant and returned to our campground to find our  mail had not arrived.  This is the first time in  9 years of mail forwarding  (the first to be forwarded to Canada) that our mail has not come at the appointed time.  We will not stay another day for it to arrive but will have it sent back and hope to get it later.  Oh well.

Ellen interviewed me this evening on being an RVer .  She has worked at  Pippy Park summers for 5 years so has lots of experience with Rvers.   I hope I contributed to her Master’s thesis .  She was delightful.  We move on to Gander, inland in the morning. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 07, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
Betty, is that your new coral pendant in the Mile 0 photo? 

Yep it is.  Earrings too.  I don't even know if they  were made by artist from Newfoundland but they spoke to me and were way less $ than the  coral jewelry I saw at Moab.

BB
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on July 07, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
...  I had lots of water shots but managed to get a few whale tales.
...

Are those the aquatic equivalent of Terry's moose butt shots?   ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on July 07, 2008, 09:55:48 PM
Betty:   Thanks for posting some scenery.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on July 07, 2008, 11:46:36 PM
Betty:   Thanks for posting some scenery.

Well ... to each his own, Ron. 

If I were given the choice of seeing photos of sterile, solitary, scenery shots or seeing Betty, Terry and Russ being photographed enjoying said scenery ... guess which I would choose? 

I just spent a half a day in our storage shed tossing lots of photos of scenery and keeping only those shots which featured people I loved and admired standing in front of scenery they really enjoyed traveling to just to see and experience the wonder of unexplored territory.   It's people who make photos interesting, IMHO.  Photos with people may not be art by your standards, but those photos certainly are art and then some by my standards.

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 09, 2008, 06:21:33 AM
July 8, 2008 Gander, NL  Country Inn Motel and Trailer Park  free wifi

You almost did not get an entry tonight as my book,  Pillars of the Earth has consumed me.  Page 389.

 However,  we  departed St John’s,  NL this morning with no mail.  I left word at headquarters to call me when the packet   arrived and I would have it  returned to SD.   Our drive of over  200 miles was beautiful.  It climbed to  89 degrees and the scenery was that of  high mountainous  terrain with  rocky cliffs. It remind us of Northern  Idaho where glaciers had carved out valley filled with  lakes and numerous ponds.   Every  turn revealed spectacular scenery of  trees,  lakes and  skyline.   We arrived at Gander just as we got the call from Pippy Park that our mail packet had arrived!   Murphy!!!!

Gander is known as “The Crossroads of the World.”  It gains it’s fame from the International airport located about ½ way from  Major areas of  North America and Europe.   It’s reputation is fog free and it was one of the sites  aircraft were landed when US airspace was closed on September 11, 2000.  We visited the North Atlantic Aviation Museum  in town to  learn of the wonderful  efforts  contributed by the community when it’s population of 10,000 doubled in a few hours as aircraft were landed here .  The school bus drivers were on strike and yet  got into their busses to taxi  stranded passengers to the  local schools,  Lions club and local homes for  shelter.  Wal-Mart gave toys to children who were on board planes that had been grounded.  The teachers worked onto the  early hours of the night after a day of teaching to provide  blankets, shelter and comfort stranded  passengers in their classrooms.   The entire  Province of Newfoundland was such as support and comfort to  passengers in that terrorist moment.  Talk about a village!!!

 We  also visited the  Silent Memorial,  a  Monument dedicated to memorialize those soldiers of the  101St airborne  who,  having competed their mission in 1985 in the Sinai desert and were  on their way home, crashed and perished.  Terry was a Screaming Eagle so he was especially caught up in the memory.  Talk about Fate. 


We visited the Visitor Center and  decided there is much to see and do here while we await our mail packet to be forwarded.  We are so fortunate to  be exploring this beautiful countryside.


Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on July 09, 2008, 09:34:59 AM
Well ... to each his own, Ron. 

If I were given the choice of seeing photos of sterile, solitary, scenery shots or seeing Betty, Terry and Russ being photographed enjoying said scenery ... guess which I would choose? 

I just spent a half a day in our storage shed tossing lots of photos of scenery and keeping only those shots which featured people I loved and admired standing in front of scenery they really enjoyed traveling to just to see and experience the wonder of unexplored territory.   It's people who make photos interesting, IMHO.  Photos with people may not be art by your standards, but those photos certainly are art and then some by my standards.

Margi

No problem with photos of people for memories, but you must understand, my love is the landscape and I can rarely get enough of it.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 09, 2008, 05:18:01 PM
Terry,

You might go inside the airport terminal and talk to one or more of the security folks.  Ask to see around the place and also tell them you're a 101st airborne (once 101st always 101st) and that their memorial moved you...thank them for it  There is a 99% chance that they will take you on a behind the scenes tour.

I was not 101st but we did get the tour mainly because we knew the facts and thanked them for what they did on 9/11.  They were moved by our thank you and happily surprised that we appreciated their efforts.  The tour was very nice!

BTW, Gander was the test airport during the development of the British/French Concord.

JerryF 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 09, 2008, 07:58:34 PM
July 9, 2008   Gander, Road to the Shore Drive ( 213 miles in the car) 

Today we took a scenic drive recommended by a British Columbian minister  tourist parked next to us last night.  It is referred to as the “Loop” Road to the Shores,  as it takes  you through coastal communities from Gander Bay and around to Gander.  Note to self. …Find out if  route supports  tourists. We did not pack a lunch and wish that we had as there were NO restaurants along the way except for the one  we came upon  that was called Lucky Chinese and Canadian food. We ate there out of desperation. It was 2 o clock and we were hungry.  Never again!  Right after we ate we found a few  more restaurants that may have been more appealing.  You never know. 

 The day was overcast and we hoped for sun at each photo op.  As the day went on we found more and more picturesque scenes of Newfoundland.  The tour book guided us in  an exaggerated  description of their destinations on a few occasions but mostly this was the scenery of movies!  The countryside  was not like any we had seen before in NL.  Every cove and bay was littered with gigantic granite  boulders.  When wet with the waters of the bay they were the color of Moab dirt, (red) .  This is definitely the country of former glaciers as the granite rocks have been placed neatly along the shores of each by nature.

  In Newtown, the tour book said it was like a little Venice.  Well we don’t think so but it did provide some of the most scenic villages we have seen.. The fishing industry is alive.  We learned from asking a local that the lobster season is highly regulated by the government.  The season is staggered by community.  When in  Newtown the season started in late May and had just ended but  more north along the coast the lobster  season has a few weeks to go.  He offered us a chance to buy fresh lobster but we asked for a restaurant instead.  He said, sorry there are no restaurants here.  We already knew that.  The  Newfie language here is that clipped English, which  sounds like an Irish brogue.  It has glottal stops and is very hard to understand.  But the folks could not be more friendly.  Along a lonesome dirt road(not on the  tourist trail  but Terry will go anywhere his GPS has a road, ) we spotted  two different  iceberg s way offshore. My binoculars confirmed them as  icebergs but  out of photo  range  so  you will just have to take my word for it.

We took scenery shots today and loved them all.  We got our mail packet and can happily move on to  Twillingate in the morning. 

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on July 09, 2008, 08:30:14 PM
Um...  Who's Joey?   ???
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on July 09, 2008, 09:40:50 PM
Here's the story on Joey (http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/confederation/023001-2405-e.html)  ;)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Dick on July 09, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
Betty,

I know Terry was a Screaming Eagle and can only imagine what that museum meant to him. Once you have joined the Band of Brothers there's nothing like it. I hope he was impressed with their memorial.

Never having served in the "war" in Viet Nam I do ride with many of those that did. It is a humbling experience to see those that gave all that was asked and still support those that are now doing the same. I will continue to ride for all of our service personnel that are in harms way!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 10, 2008, 05:15:37 AM
Tom what the article doesn't say, and I've been told many times was that the consensus of Newfoundlanders at the time was that they should be attempting to join the US.  With all the American bases in NL there was much closer ties with the US than with Canada.  But Joey was a strong believer in Canada, and that what was persued and happened. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on July 10, 2008, 11:11:03 AM
Betty:   Thanks for some scenic shots.  That church has an interesting setting.

Ron
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 10, 2008, 01:12:01 PM
Hfx_CD, On both of our trips to NF we found that the majority of folks we talked with said that the population preferred to join the US and they also said that today they wished they had.  During WWII the US stationed 10,000 troops in NF to protect the undersea cable that was the lifeline between Roosevelt and Churchill.  In 1939-1945 that was THE main communication link.

Betty, The churches throughout the area seemed to be built from the same basic set of plans.  Note the similarities between the two photos I attached and your photo of a church.  It's a great design!  The stone church is in the Gaspe PQ and the white church was in Stephensville NF.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 11, 2008, 06:37:52 AM
July 10, 2008  Twillingate, NL     Peyton’s Woods RV Park   (709) 884-2000  Very big rig friendly.   


It has been a glorious day.  I think  this part of Newfoundland is  the most scenic of any area I’ve ever visited ever with it‘s rustic beauty.   Water, mountains, fishing harbors,  islands offshore, blue sky .  I keep saying wow, wow and wow again!

We traveled  about 98 miles after our diesel fuel fill up.  It cost $332.00 to top off. ( $5.98 per gallon)   This   was our first fill up that broke $300 and the tank was only  ½ empty.  But if you get what you pay for today was worth it.  The countryside is mountainous but has rocky cliffs that melt into the sea peppered with  tree filled small  rocky  islands.  Twillingate is a narrow hilly  island and  has waterfront  on all sides so in every direction we see beauty.  It was a picture perfect day, warm and clear.  Terry and I  headed off to  “the Mountain“, to view Spillers Cove,  that we had been told we needed to climb to see an iceberg.  However I thought we were going to lunch and only had on sandals for a very steep rocky and muddy hike.   We climbed for almost 40 minutes to view magnificent ocean views and   saw in the distance the iceberg. Binoculars would have helped and maybe tomorrow we will take a shorter hike out to the dump for a clearer view.   While  Terry had lunch of liver and onions I enjoyed two Quidi Vidi Honey Brown Beers ( a Newfoundland Beer)  following the  hike as  I earned them.

We drove out to  The Town of Crow Head to see Long Point Lighthouse,  a commanding 300 feet above sea level. Then we scoped out the Seabreeze Municipal Park for camping.  If we had a truck and camper this would be on top of the world with the best views but would not work for our motor home.  We enjoyed the  vistas and took more photos.  While we  were on this photo mission Russ was on his own and stopped at a colorful  local  fishing dock and the owner invited him in for a personal tour for which he had to pay!  (he grumbles)

The topper of  my day was the entertainment we chose to attend tonight.  Seven women have joined a  group  called “The  Split Peas.”  They have been performing traditional Newfoundland songs for 15 years.  For the mere cost of $10 admission I was entertained, inspired amused and awed at the talent of these women.  They asked if we knew about  mummering?  We did not so they explained a tradition here on the Island ( as Newfies refer to their home)    Costumed  people knock on doors and  the people give them drinks and try to guess who they are. Terry was mummerd in tonight as one of the ladies in an ugly costume chose to dance with him .   He was a great sport and danced  the night away with her.  At intermission we snacked on a local tradition of Toutons and Tea.  What is that you ask?  Well so did I.  It is actually a piece of fried bread about the size of a flat bagel.  We smothered it in a jam and it was delicious.  We were told that calories consumed out side of your own province, if you are Canadian , do not count.  We were further told that if you consume those calories outside of your own country, they are subtracted, so I shall be thinner by eating this fried bread!

The  show was fantastic.  I left wanting more but  good news is we attend a dinner show tomorrow night with more local entertainment.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on July 11, 2008, 08:12:10 AM
Thanks for the great shots Betty and Terry.   Sounds like you had a real good day.

I posted another 15 shots of Schoodic Peninsula here in Maine.   We head across the border into New Brunswick on Monday.  Temperatures here the last several days have been in the mid-80's.  We have been using the A/C in the car.



Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on July 11, 2008, 10:19:55 AM
Betty,

Great pictures!

You probably mentioned this in one of your earlier posts, so sorry for the duplication; but could you tell me what their (NL) winter weather is like?  Is it like Alaska where you need to be heading home by some point.  What amounts of snow do they get and how cold?  I'm just interested, no particular reason.  I just noticed that the roof lines are very steep; and I wondered if that is because of the amount of snow they get.

Tim and I are so excited to be going next year.  We just received the information about the location of the second of our neices' weddings.  It's right on the bay on Manitoulin Insland in a town called Mindemoya.  It looks really nice.  That will be the beginning of our Canadian trip.  After than we head to the Maritimes.

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 11, 2008, 11:32:46 AM
Donna and I were married in Sudbury ON, about an hour's drive from Manitoulin Island, it is a very pretty but rustic area, with much of it unspoiled wilderness.  As for NL weather, it goes the gamut.  Labrador, and the far reaches of the Northern Peninsula (Where the Viking Village is located) would have similar weather to Alaska, but you won't likely head to Labrador as you can't take the coach, but there is a car ferry, that gives you access to about 20 - 30 miles of dirt road, the main road access to Lab City is via Sept Isles Quebec, where you turn north and drive 700 miles on a bolder highway.  Western and Central NL get reasonably tough winters, say like Minnasota, but the Avalon where St John's is located would be much to same as say Boston or NY, occasional snow, rare winters with lots(and last year was one, even though it all came March).  All of the Maritimes, or eastern Canada for that matter have great fall foliage.  Let me know if I can add anything else to answer your queery.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 11, 2008, 12:54:45 PM
Betty,

We're so happy that you're seeing some icebergs, even though they're small.  There were not any in 2006 and we were disappointed in that.  Also you got a great photo of some fishing rooms.  Isn't it just so picturesque?!?  I thoroughly understand the wow, wow, and wow!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 11, 2008, 03:25:55 PM
Donna and I were married in Sudbury ON, about an hour's drive from Manitoulin Island, it is a very pretty but rustic area, with much of it unspoiled wilderness.  As for NL weather, it goes the gamut.  Labrador, and the far reaches of the Northern Peninsula (Where the Viking Village is located) would have similar weather to Alaska, but you won't likely head to Labrador as you can't take the coach, but there is a car ferry, that gives you access to about 20 - 30 miles of dirt road, the main road access to Lab City is via Sept Isles Quebec, where you turn north and drive 700 miles on a bolder highway.  Western and Central NL get reasonably tough winters, say like Minnasota, but the Avalon where St John's is located would be much to same as say Boston or NY, occasional snow, rare winters with lots(and last year was one, even though it all came March).  All of the Maritimes, or eastern Canada for that matter have great fall foliage.  Let me know if I can add anything else to answer your queery.Ed

Thank you,  Ed for that post as I would not have been able to answer it.  I love the Forum's expertise and experience and that we are willing to share. 
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 11, 2008, 03:59:12 PM
Betty, when are you coming back to the mainland?  Have you plans to meet up with Jeff & Sue, who I think hit NB next week.  We're still at the cottage in Shediac having, in a fit of youthful exuberance, undertaking a major fix up, the latest is a new kitchen.  We're trying to have it all done for the 1st week end of August, when we have 22 family members here for a function.  By the next week end, we should be back in RV made, and maybe catch up with a few of you.  I don't know your timing, but you've only scratched the surface of NB, and seen nothing of NS or PEI.  You need to see Fortress Louisburg, The Cabot Trail, and the Bras D'Or Lakes while in Cape Breton, the the Eastern and South Shores of NS, with a few days in Halifax.  And every visit to the Maritimes requires a couple of days (or more) on PEI, Canada's smallest, but densest Province.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 11, 2008, 07:37:46 PM
Betty, when are you coming back to the mainland?  Have you plans to meet up with Jeff & Sue, who I think hit NB next week. 

Ed, 
We have reservations on the Ferry to return to North Sydney on July 31.  At that time we hope our paths will cross with Jeff and Sue and Ron and Shirley.  We then plan to spend the month of August  touring as many of the places you mentioned as possible.  We hope to look you up near end of August.
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 11, 2008, 07:51:38 PM
July 11, 2008  Twillingate Outskirts NL

Our first venture of the day was to visit Prime Berth Fishing Museum. It looked really hokey outside with a fake whale tale in the bay  and dummies in  boats.  For a mere  $5 per person we got  a most informative presentations about  cod fishing as it as was back when.   Bill was our guide and he told of being a lad of 8 years old and his job was to throw the fish up on the table for  the elders to gut,  clean,   de-bone them to ready them for the  salt drying process.  He used  a live codfish to demonstrate the process.   EWWWWW the smell.  He further pointed out the bucket of cod liver oil from which all of us  “old timers have had a taste.”  When cod was processed the livers were kept and sold to the  pharmacies that was the only cash crop a fisherman received.  Most other payments for their  toils of the year by fishing were made on credit and exchanged at years end for the supplies used.  Not many got ahead.  What a hard life.  They had no Wal-marts, or  Cabellas to turn to for anything.  They wove their own nets from cotton as it gets more strength when wet than any other natural fiber.  They repaired nets in winters and  spun needles of yarn to be ready for the  repair  in the evening.    Bill was our guide and is a retired 5th grade teacher.  His accent is very Irish and he was very knowledgeable. It was like listening to a story teller.  It was in 1966 that the cod fish moratorium came into place which  regulated the entire fishing industry  and it surely  stopped the economics of the area.  Now commercial fishing  only has a 6 week season from late May to mid June.  If he wanted to go out and fish,  he would have a five fish a day limit. Nets are no longer allowed.  All fish with hooks and jigs.

  While there is no biblical reference that says one must not eat meat on Friday, The Pope made such an  edict  to  benefit the fishing industries .  Consider please that,  I’m not a theological historian, I just report what I heard in tourist  venues.  I really enjoyed the information Bill showed us about how “the rooms” were used to prepare fish in their day, before refrigeration.

Now in our car in search of lunch,   Terry wanted a lobster shack for  an authentic   fresh lobster lunch.  We  happened on  one and selected the lobster from a pool of hundreds.  Russ and I  had lobster sandwiches and then waited while Terry   devoured the whole  thing after we watched it being cooked.

 I heard a squeaking sound that sounded like rusty door hinges and upon investigation saw 2 small critters.  Russ  and Terry photographed them and we later learned they were wild  mink who rarely come  to this section of the shore.  So now we have lobster lunch in the sun, with a mink showing !  Can life get any better? We continued our drive thought  many arms of this  seashore.  The names of each little cove and outlet are wonderful.  We visited  Too Good Arm, Herring Neck, Virgin Arm, Pine Cove Point  to name a few.  There were no grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants or anything in these little villages.  Just scenic vistas .  Wow and Wow.  I had brought my own chips for snack in the car just in case.

We headed back to town hoping to see the iceberg from the dump road.  However we learned from tourists on the road it was not there.    Not to be believed and we have a  4 wheel drive after all, we  ventured on.  At the dump site, a local informed us the  berg had broken in two  in the late evening and  tumbled over out of view, much to our dismay and even more to the chagrin of the tour boats going out to view it.    Moral of this, make haste while you can!  We were happy to have seen the glimpse yesterday!

Off to the Dinner show…..We dined at the local Community Center and watched the Circle Dinner Theatre perform.   It did  not compare to last night’s show but the comedy gave a good laugh, we got to sing along and the  couples at our table were delightful. Many of the tourist in this area are from Ontario.  The sky tonight rivaled an Arizona sunset.  It was  hues of pink and more pink and deep pink and encircled the entire horizon.  None of us had a camera. 



Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on July 12, 2008, 01:24:43 AM
Thanks for the info, Ed.  It seems like the weather in the Maritimes is much like the states...varied.

We have actually been to Manitoulin Island a couple of years ago; but we did not take the coach onto the island.  We crossed into Canada at Peace Bridge <?> near Buffalo then stayed close to Sudbury while we toured around.  From that point we headed west back across Canada and crossed back into the States at Vancover.  It was a great trip; except for a hawk that flew into our coach driver's side window and shattered it.  We had to wait in Edmonton for 2 weeks to get the replacement from the states.  We became very acquainted with Edmonton.   ;D  They have great "off leash dog parks".

I'll get back to you if I think of any more questions.

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 12, 2008, 05:13:36 AM
Marsha, the weather in Atlantic Canada kind of reminds me of what we were told about Hawaii, because of the water, currents, mountains an d location; it is variable.  The old saying in NS is that if you don't like the weather wait 15 minutes and it will change.  We catch weather patterns that come east across Norht America, and we catch weather that comes up the eastern seaboard from the Caribbean. And rarely 2 storms meet over us, hence the plot of the "Perfect Storm" movie.  The bottom line is we "bitch" about it, make jokes about it, but we don't get upset when it isn't to our liking.  Having said that if you have a choice, the time to come east is after mid June through to mid October.  In fact September early October is my favourite time to travel here, unles you're looking for a beach vacation.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 12, 2008, 01:08:36 PM
Terry,

That lobster looks scrumptious!  I tend to prefer the smaller 1-1.25 pounders to the 2 pounders.  The smaller ones seem more tender and flavorful.  Anyway, I'm jealous!  ;)  I gorged on cod while up there.  It was absolutely wonderful!  We seldom get real cod - I've heard it's usually pollock in the U.S. - and the real stuff is teriffic!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 12, 2008, 07:43:19 PM
July 12, 2008  Twillingate, NF  Lazy Day

We toured the Durrell Museum perched at the  top of a hill with a 360 degree view  overlooking Twillingate.  We saw the  exact Polar Bear who had the misfortune to venture into town on March 6, 2000 and got too close to civilization.  He is now stuffed for tourists to enjoy  as  a permanent memorial  to a  rare visit and now  with no risk.  We also toured the St Peter’s Anglican church and noted how beautifully the stain glass windows light the church.  On the hill just above was a very nicely done Twillingate Museum depicting the heydays of this  community.  The gem of the day was when exiting the museum Terry took a dirt road that led behind the hillside and overlooked  the cemetery and farther down overlooked another magnificent sparking blue bay.  The water sparkled as if  someone had sprinkled fairy dust on it.  It was awesome.  Russ and I tasted the wines at the Auk Island winery,  who make wines from the local fruit.  I bought two bottles of Rhubarb wine and one of cherry we passed on the discount by the case but will enjoy this light wine!   It was beautifully done and they  offer lobster suppers with live music but we are out of  nights .  Tonight we  returned  to see the solo act of Ada Piercy-Jenkins who was in the Split Pea group we saw a couple of days ago.  Her show was  oozed with musical passion and powerful lyrics. (An accurate description from her flyer)  We  bought both of her CD’s.

I spoke to a local artist, Randy Hann,  while  browsing his shop.  He asked me about my accent.  I was a little startled as I never ever figured I had an accent.  Well I do here!   We talked about all of the people he meets and he can hear the  accents and dialects in all kinds of the common language we share  called “English,”  but  pronounced in so many ways.  He told me how proud Newfoundlanders are of their land.  He said yes they are patriotic Canadians and glad to be a part of Canada but that they are different.  They are fiercely loyal to NL.  He compared Newfoundlanders to hillbillies,  remote, hearty, love of  nature, love of  isolation (non big cities) .  He said, We are one of a kind.”  I noted  that he had blue eyes.  I can’t believe how almost every person I’ve seen in Newfoundland has  blue eyes.  Talk about genetic heritage showing up over and over.  The dialect sound so very Irish to me. With my Irish background , I’m  very intrigued by the sound of the words.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 13, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
Yes, Betty, picture perfect!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 13, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
July 13, 2008 Twillingate Day off

As with all good trips some are days of rest.  Today we did chores, laundry and listened to Ada’s CD’s.  We laughed to learn we could have purchased her CD’s  from I-tunes for  $9.99.  We paid  $20 for them at her concert last night. 

It was a beautiful day.  I read and read and read!


Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: carson on July 13, 2008, 04:16:44 PM
Betty, consider the difference of the price a tip for a live performance. Bet you feel better now. :)

carson
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 15, 2008, 10:05:20 AM
July 14, 2008  Springdale, NL   George Huxter Memorial Park and RV camping  (709) 673-3808

We left Twillingate this morning with sadness.  It has been a beautiful stay.  I found  the Newfoundland spirit!  But onward!

 We are following the general direction that some of  the caravans take and today was a prime example of a reason to take a caravan.   The caravan trips,  in this place,  include a  tour of the crab plant via a ferry ride,  a tour of a mussel farm , a meal prepared by locals and a Screech in Ceremony.  None of this was available to us, despite our search.  The camp ground is a beautifully renovated  city park with a huge overflow area designed for caravans. It is only $18 a night for water and elec.   All good but no internet.  None in town either!  So we opted to stay only one night and got our money back for the second planned  night with no problem.   
Terry and I drove out to the Kingsbury Point  that includes the  infamous Kingsbury pottery.  None of it was my style nor in my price range so we moved on to view the  Rattling Brook Falls.  The falls were narrow and 800 feet  high.  The spectacular thing about them was that I survived the climb of stairs to see them.  The view from the top was  fantastic .  We checked out the ferry that was a dirt lot with a dirt ramp to “somewhere.”  We asked a local and he described what we might find on the  Little Bay Island, but I could not understand a word of his “English.”  The roads and country side around here is nothing  spectacular at all.  There are coves but they are not memorable at all like those we have seen before. Maybe we are getting spoiled.

The Little Indian Falls are right in our campground.  They boast that they are the only falls in NL that you can actually  find Atlantic Salmon swimming up the falls to spawn.  We watched fly fisher people and yearned for a look at a salmon.  We saw only  lovely water over large boulders.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on July 15, 2008, 02:46:52 PM
It's time for the 30 Day Expense Report

Fuel includes motorhome & auto.
Meals includes groceries & restaurants.
Lodging is campgrounds.
Miscellaneous is everything else...mostly sightseeing/tour fees & souvenirs.

Fuel.....................$2023.77
Meals................... 1057.70
Lodging................ 904.43
Miscellaneous.......... 1697.19

Total.................... $5683.09
$189.44 a day for two people. We Have Not SKIMPED on anything.

Miles Driven

Motorhome................2267
Gmc Envoy................1006

Total........................3273

 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: cuts_up on July 15, 2008, 02:56:43 PM
WOW!  Good for you!  That is some set of steps!!!!!  I'm not sure I could make that w/o an oxygen tank. LOL!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 15, 2008, 03:02:21 PM
WOW!  Good for you!  That is some set of steps!!!!!  I'm not sure I could make that w/o an oxygen tank.

Kathy,

I was just glad they had  built  the steps.  It would have been a miserable mountain climb.  I do it for exercise as much as for the scenery.  It was NOT easy however.
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 15, 2008, 03:58:48 PM
3,300 and you're just starting up the Northern Peninsula, if memory serves me right, that will add another 1000 miles round trip, but they say it is the best part of the trip.  Be even more carefull of the moose as they are plentiful up there.  While in Gros Morn take a walk along the boardwalk to the inland fiord, it's pretty, at least it was when we were there.  Enjoy th people and the views, you still have lots to see.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 15, 2008, 06:23:44 PM
July 15, 2008 Rocky Harbor, NL  Gros Morne RV Park. (709) 458-2238

We left Springdale and traveled TCH 1  over the most mountainous terrain we’ve seen so far.  It was misty and hazy so the scenery did not stand out.  We arrived at Gros Morne RV Park which is just outside of Gros Morne National Park.  There is much to do here as far as taking in sights but today we just figured out what to do for the next couple of days and will go to a talk tonight at the  visitor Center on the Tablelands.  Recall this area is where  the tectonic  plate theory was proven by matching rocks from the top of Gros Morne to rocks in Spain.   I’ll learn more about it tonight I’m sure . Good news here is the campground wi-fi works well and that gives us the entertainment we like.  There is still no TV and I’ve finished my book.  Now I’ll  be looking to  buy the sequel.

Update….  We loaded ourselves up in the car  at 7:15 and drove the  mile or so to the Gros Morne Visitor Center, all set to watch the  8:00 pm slide show presentation on  the Mantle..Tablelands,” geology for the non geologist.”  They wanted us to  purchase a National Park day pass to see this.  They are $9.50 each person per day.  It would only be good till noon tomorrow so wouldn’t even cover the  price of admission for our drive  through the park tomorrow.  We passed,  mumbling and grumbling about what a price gouge we feel it was.  We would not have minded if it had been good for  24 hours but not  just  till noon.  Maybe I’m just reeling from Terry’s summary of our costs.

 No I’m not going to cut down on things we see, but there are some limits!   This is the FIRST Visitor Center we’ve ever seen that charged an admission. 

We will drive a loop of the park tomorrow and hopefully have nice weather for our photos of the fijords.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on July 15, 2008, 08:42:37 PM
Betty:  Are your 30 day expenses only since you have been in Canada or all the way from home.  Seems like your numbers would be higher from home.

For our 30 days out from home, we are pretty close to your numbers and we haven't been extravagent eating out or with entertainment.  You must remember however that our mileage is much worse than yours.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on July 15, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
Ron

These are Canadian expenses only. Be prepared for a shock when you fill your tank, & food prices are also very expensive. 

Our daily expenses are $60 more per day than our Alaska trip two years ago.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Gary RV_Wizard on July 15, 2008, 09:17:55 PM
Terry,
Is the $775 ferry ride in "Miscellaneous" also?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on July 16, 2008, 06:10:46 AM
Gary

>>Is the $775 ferry ride in "Miscellaneous" also?<<

Yes.......I even include the soft-serve ice cream cones.<G>

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 16, 2008, 12:13:47 PM
Betty,

$5,683 is a lot of dough in 30 days, but Ardra and I say, "It's a good life so do it while you can."  Congratulations to both of you.

So many folks do not fully account for the fact that their physical stamina, their health, and their money all tend to decline as the years go by.

There is a Mexican toast that says it the best.

Salud, Amor, Dinero y tiempo para gozarlos. 

Translation:  Health, Love, Money and the time to enjoy them.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 16, 2008, 08:10:01 PM
July 16, 2008   Gros Morne National Park and Outlying areas.

Today was one of those memory making traveling  days.  We toured 10 hours and witnessed spectacular scenery. I sit in the back seat of my chauffeur driven car, armed with the many tour guides and maps  available. Last night I read Tim and Jan Lynch’s version of this portion of the trip and  re-read Ardra’s accounts from their  06 visit to Newfoundland. (She did a very detailed account and I often refer to her statements.)  I then read the history to my front seat passengers and holler when I want the  driver to stop. 

 This section of Newfoundland is not like anything I’ve ever seen or can make a comparison to.  Gros Morne National Park is an UNESCO  World Heritage Site  which means it was   designated by  the  United Nations Education, Scientific, and Cultural Organization  as a place of historical significance.  It is because the rocks of Gros Morne provide some of the best illustrations of plate tectonics, one of the  most important ideas in modern science, that it was given this designation in 1987.   We visited the Discovery Center and paid our Canadian Park daily dues, happily today  as I must have been in a better mood.  We watched an  excellent video of the park .  The vistas of the  mountains came into view as the haze of the morning cleared.   The rocks and geologic features exposed within this place rank this place among the planets’ most significant natural areas.  Fred Thomas would love to study geology here!   After touring little fishing village of  Trout River we had our picnic lunch overlooking Capelin Bay.  We will never again rely on  restaurants for lunch so we came prepared with our own. !  Our view was superb and we could enjoy the lovely day while walking along the boardwalk.   We could only be sorry that we were too late for lobster season as it would be fun to watch the fishermen take their catch.  Hundreds of lobster traps decorate the landscape and tell of  recent activity. Lobster season closed here two weeks ago.

 Tablelands  Mountain boasts that it is an exposed part of the earths’ mantle.  Terry and I hiked one hour at the base of this mountain and saw pitcher plants, waterfalls and the magnificent  yellowish colored rock that was thrust upward 450 millions years or so ago.  Not much grows on the barren rock .  We were the only ones on this relatively easy trail and  became engrossed in the scenery as well as the workout.  Russ waited in the car for us.  The drive  then provided views of the waters inside these  fjord type bays.  I saw a whale surface, but the guys did not see him.

We returned to the motor home and signed up to stay another day here at the Gros Morne RV Park.  We have wi-fi and have more to explore tomorrow.  We then headed north up the coast for  even more breathtaking scenery.  We headed to Arches Rock which was once ocean bottom and is now a formation of arches on a pebble filled beach. The coast is all rocks and pebbles, no sand at all.  We saw  more fishing villages and staging areas. We saw the remain of a shipwreck from 1910.

 We saw a moose, yes you read that right, as we were headed back to camp, Russ said, “ STOP, do a u-turn I saw something. “ Throwing all of the contents of the back seat on the floor, driver did a u-turn and we headed slowly  back down the road to indeed see a large friendly tall  moose in the scrub brush.  The sun was right in the eye of the cameras but I saw him yes I did.  What a day.  We headed back to Lobster Cove where we viewed the  lighthouse.  For long time the community could not afford a lighthouse so the locals took turns  burning one pint of oil per night in their windows as a  warning.  The lighthouse is beautiful and you can see why it was so badly needed at the size of the lovely harbor and the  roughness of the rocks along the coast.  I am pleasantly exhausted and still delighted by the natural wonders of our planet.  I’ve found  Newfoundland  to be a very  special place.  I’m also remembering some exquisite carvings done at the local craft store.  Oh boy….
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 17, 2008, 05:40:57 PM
Terry, a great moose photo.  Glad you finally got one that showed more than the rear end!  ;)

Betty, we too gave up on trying to find lunch places.  Most of the small towns simply don't have restaurants.  One of our lunches was a the local gas station cum convenience store cum lunch counter.  That was the entire shopping and eating in that town.  We're spoiled.

While you're at Gros Morne I do hope you take the trail up to Lookout Point.  Yes it is up but the view from the top is superb.  Take a lunch and water, take your time - it's a boardwalk most of the way, and then enjoy your lunch at the beautiful top.  They built a really nice place to sit, eat, and enjoy the view.  And remember it's all down on the return!  :D  Even it you don't make it all the way up, the views improve as you go higher.  Also, the Western Pond Boat tour is great and very informative.  It takes a while to walk out to the boat dock so leave time.  But that trail may be where we saw the largest number of moose.

Glad you're enjoying this fabulous place!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 17, 2008, 06:53:00 PM
July 17, 2008 Gros Morne National Park, Rocky Harbour NL

Today Terry and I hiked 3 kilometers (45 minutes ) across bogs, through thick trees and ended up on the shores of Western Pond.  We took the Western Pond boat ride which is said to be among the most popular of  rides here in the park.  The boat entered  into what I thought was a fjord but I learned today that technically it is not as the water is fresh water and it has no access to the seas. The water is almost black in color and is some of the purest water on the planet.  It has so few minerals in it that it won’t conduct electricity as learned by Canada Parks when they  installed water sensing pumps.

 Seems that  about 8,000 years ago some land was disrupted and left this” pond “ with no access to the seas.  The majestic walls are evidence of glacial action. The stark stone rose some  2100 feet above our heads and I still have a neck ache  from watching the walls of this majestic canyon.  There were numerous  trickles of waters down the many feet into ribbons of mist that were waterfalls.

 The highlight was walking home on the boardwalk we happened onto a  grazing moose.  I was so close that I had to back my telephoto out to get a shot.  He seemed to not be too distressed by people around him.  We were all snapping pictures.   I would highly recommend this Western Pond boat tour if you are  in Gros Morne, Newfoundland.  He told us lots of facts and figures on the geology of this area but I had my eye on scenery and  no way to take notes.  I am pretty sunburned as it was a wonderfully sunny warm  day but clouds did  blow in  and threaten our boat ride  but  no rain.
We dined at the Ocean View Motel restaurant in Rocky Harbour  and I told Terry we should have had a surcharge for linens as he had made such a mess of his tablecloth with his seafood  chowder soup and lobster and partridge berry pie.   We’ve decided to stay an extra day here!   

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on July 17, 2008, 07:18:22 PM
What a gorgeous place !! And the moose looks like he's having a lovely lunch. BTW, how do you know it's a "he" moose?? Don't they have antlers? Inquiring minds, ya know. Anyway, I've got this place on my list of places to visit if (when !!) we ever get up to that area.

Wendy
stuck in hot Farmington NM for one more night
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 17, 2008, 08:12:25 PM
What a gorgeous place !! And the moose looks like he's having a lovely lunch. BTW, how do you know it's a "he" moose?? Don't they have antlers? Inquiring minds, ya know. Anyway, I've got this place on my list of places to visit if (when !!) we ever get up to that area.

Wendy,

It may have  actually been a "she"  moose.  In the moment I don't  check.  Our goal is now to  see a male moose with a full rack!

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Alaskansnowbirds on July 17, 2008, 08:34:22 PM
And the moose looks like he's having a lovely lunch. BTW, how do you know it's a "he" moose?? Don't they have antlers? Inquiring minds, ya know.

Wendy,

You're right, the males do have antlers. Antlers, not horns, so they are shed in the spring and are regrown in the fall. So this time of year it could be either but from the one picture I don't see any evidence of where antlers were. So I would guess that it's a cow or a very young bull.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: carson on July 18, 2008, 04:48:08 AM
That's a lady moose alright.. daddy moose would have antlers by now.

Also notice in the last picture that the moose is talking to you; don't ladies talk a lot? ;D

carson FL
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 18, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
July 18, 2008 Gros Morne, Bonne Bay Aquarium Tour

It was a foggy and cool day so it was perfect for our planned visit to the Bonne Bay Aquarium Tour. The Bonne Bay Marine Institute is a Marine station out on Norris Point and affiliated with Memorial University. I’ve been to many marine aquariums and enjoy them but I was not expecting this one to be so very special! Russ had visited a few days earlier and told us it was worthwhile. The facility is only  5 years old and sits right on the shores of the Bonne Bay where two arms of water branch out having been caused by glacial action years ago. The unique thing is that the larger bay has been cut off from the ocean seas of St Lawrence and has specimens unique to here. The marine species found here are usually found much farther north but the water here stays very cold even in summer.

The mere $5 tour was the bargain of the trip. Our guide, Ann was an articulate, knowledgeable enthusiastic graduate student in Marine Biology from Ontario doing a summer internship here in Newfoundland. She showed us tanks of specimens brought in by divers or fishermen which are unique and rare. We also saw fish being studied by grad students. The most interesting one to me is a fish that has a special type of hormone like an antifreeze and it is able to stay in cold freezing waters due to this body chemistry. Studies are being done on it for situations where things need to be kept cold yet cannot freeze. She gave the example of organs being transported for transplant and vegetables. Just think one day this fish may have something to do with our fresh vegetables. It is a very ugly fish. She showed us sea urchins, sunfish, lobster, crabs, and a host of other names she threw out readily and I’ve already forgotten. Another interesting fact she reported was that the microscopic plant life in the ocean is essential to our planet in that it converts sunlight through photosynthesis to produce 75% of the earth’s oxygen.
We also learned that here on the western side of Newfoundland 70% of the fishing industry profits come from snow crab, lobster and shrimp.
There was a touch tank of marine specimens we could hold and touch . Terry and I kept our hands in our pockets.
We toured gift shops this drizzly afternoon and I made a couple of fun purchases. Won’t tell you about them in case you are on my gift list!
Tonight I am trying to talk my guys into joining me as I attend Pub Night at the local pub where “Anchor’s Aweigh” is playing. It starts at 9 pm so I wonder if we can stay up that late. It does not get dark until around 9:45 or so.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 18, 2008, 06:01:01 PM
Also notice in the last picture that the moose is talking to you; don't ladies talk a lot?

Carson,

You are in so much trouble!!!!

Betty
Fortified by all the ladies of the RVforum.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: carson on July 18, 2008, 06:12:17 PM
It sort of feels good to get into trouble once in awhile. Its been a long time. :)

carson. Wishing a good journey back home.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 18, 2008, 06:49:52 PM
Tonight I am trying to talk my guys into joining me as I attend Pub Night at the local pub where “Anchor’s Aweigh” is playing. It starts at 9 pm so I wonder if we can stay up that late. It does not get dark until around 9:45 or so.

So having no takers I went by myself , only to learn they had sold out for  the night.  They didn't even have room for one.  I am upset. I will not be buying their  CD for sure.  Nothing indicated anywere indicated a need for advance purchase.  I have been here for 4 days and would have happily made advance pruchase had I known.  Grumble , groan. grrrr.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on July 18, 2008, 06:55:02 PM
So having no takers I went by myself , only to learn they had sold out for  the night.  They didn't even have room for one.  I am pissed. I wll not be buying their  CD for sure.  Nothing indicated anywere indicated a need for advance purchase.  I have been here for 4 days and would have happily made advance pruchase had I known.  Grumble , groan. grrrr.

Betty

Must be all Terry's fault. ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 18, 2008, 07:10:22 PM
Must be all Terry's fault.

Much as I would have liked to blame him, I don't think he had a clue of the need for reservations.  The big consulation is that Russ purchased a few of the local CD's and we are able to enjoy the music anyway.  But I am still stung by not getting to  see this group.  On the  other hand  the fog is so thick here tonight we can't  see our car beside us so maybe I was  not meant to drive tonight!

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on July 18, 2008, 08:39:44 PM
On the  other hand  the fog is so thick here tonight we can't  see our car beside us so maybe I was  not meant to drive tonight!

Betty

See somebody planned ahead for you. ;D ;D  Sorry you missed the event though.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on July 19, 2008, 01:10:14 PM
Sat 7/19. At 6 AM the fog was unpenatrable but by 8 the sun had won. I like to get an earlier start so left while Terry was still brewing the coffee. The trip N, up the Viking trail closely follows the west coast and is gorgeous. Saw 3 moose(meece?) grazing by the road and happily all headed for the trees. The first one I came upon had a limp> Makes me wander if she had had a near miss with a car?

St Anthony is on the east side of the peninsula with a narrow SE facing bay. The town surrounds the bay and warrents a small coast guard ship. The Canadian coast guard favors a red hull with I white stripe similar the the USA.

When we leave here to head S along the same road, we will only go 70-80 miles. I think I will stop and unhook the car at least twice to rove up and down coast trying the capture the many photo-ops I spotted on the way N.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on July 19, 2008, 01:30:59 PM
Russ,

Here's a completely useless tidbit of info re the Canadian Coast Guard.  When I grew up in Detroit in the 1950s we had a 30 foot sloop.  Because of being boaters we learned that Canada, at that time, did not have a Coast Guard presence in the Great Lakes so the American Coast Guard was given "stop and arrest" permission to be the law and rescue folks up to the Canadian shoreline.  We were even told that if it involved a "hot pursuit" case they could pursue detain and turn the fleeing folks over to the Canadian authorities.  Actually all this meant was that jumping on the shore or a dock was  useless.  Some time after that Canada developed there own Coast Guard presence.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: RVOA on July 19, 2008, 03:11:29 PM

Hi Betty

Please try to get back to see Anchors Aweigh - we stayed at the Gros Morne RV Campground Ltd and it was only a 10 minute stroll down to the Ocean View Motel/Restaurant and Show at the Anchor Bar - after a few beers, the walk back up the hill wasnt too bad either.

If you go, say hello to Alma for us (she works behind the bar and reception) - she still emails us the ocassional NF photo, even though she wouldn't remember us by now.

Ann-Marie saw two huge bull moose with full racks at the gas station just down street from the CG - she was up early at 7am though........so I guess you wont see any that are around at that time then  ;D

Are you going upto L'anse aux Meadows? - there is a wonderful boondocking spot for your 2 RVs there (on top of the hill and within walking distance of Norstead Viking Exhibit in one direction and the museum in the other). She saw another moose there too, but that was really early as well.

BTW we are really enjoying your journey - bringing back many happy memories - thank you !!

Paul and Ann-Marie
UK-RV


 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2008, 07:13:14 PM
Paul:

Unfortunately Betty couldn't get a table the night she tried to see Anchors Aweigh so Sue and I will have to do it for her in a few weeks. ::)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 20, 2008, 02:13:13 PM
She'll have another chance on their return from L'Anse Meadows and St. Anthony's.  There's only one road up and back and they'll have to stop somewhere!  :)

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: RVOA on July 20, 2008, 02:32:27 PM

Yep they can try on the way down too.

But they wont see these messages before then as I think internet will be VERY patchy up there (though there was a tiny CG who advertised WiFi IIRC).

Paul
UK-RV
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 20, 2008, 04:08:49 PM
July 19, 2008  St Anthony,  NL   Triple Falls RV Park  (No internet. )  (709) 454-2599

We left the Rocky Harbor,  Gros Morne  area this morning and filled up with our first  fuel over $6 bucks a gallon.  Diesel was $6.10 this morning!   What are we to do?  Moan and groan or go for it to the next destination.  Onward we say!!!

We traveled along some of the most  scenic vistas of the trip.  We were along the  coast and could see white caps breaking on the  beaches.  We could see  meadows on the other side of us and  lot and lots of forests with thin little trees. They say  trees here don’t get very big as their feet are always in water.  Indeed there are lots of marshes and we learned on our walk the other day that  decomposition does not happen as there is so little oxygen in the soils to  cause decay.  Small gardens pop up along the road as villagers till any plot of fertile soil they can to get a crop.  A telling sign of the winters here,  are the numerous stacks of wood along the road.  We are told people cut  trees from the forest and stack them near the road and  in winter they use their sleds to haul them to their homes.  Newfoundland has the largest number of snow  mobiles  per capital than any other province.  We saw lots of them sitting in yards of St Anthony.  Some Towns  have been given the Tidy Town award.  Those town are well kept and have no visible junk yards. St Anthony did not win such an award.

Now the ROAD…This was the worst stretch of road we have encountered  in our Canadian Travels.   The whoop de do hilly road is filled with frost  heaves.  Fortunately they are well marked by the skid marks on the pavement.  It is easy to see why  people lose their  tow equipment.   Terry says he would NEVER drive on this road at night towing a vehicle as then the  heaves would not be  visible.  It really slowed us down today,   All that being said  the road was still better than most of Mexico roads.
Triple Falls is a large campground and we are in among the trees tonight with only 15 amp service as a caravan is in and they got all the good sites.  They leave in the morning and we may move to a better site or we may just stay here.

 We have a 5 mile drive into town to catch a wireless internet signal at the  Town Hall.  Russ traveled  in front of us today as he rises much earlier than we do and he saw moose along the way.  We did not.  We took a brief drive through St Anthony and viewed the light house and fishing harbor.  We had  a pizza tonight in a local restaurant (the first in along long time) and spoke with   a few  members of the Fantasy caravan.   We know the good spots to visit tomorrow.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 20, 2008, 04:12:00 PM
July 20, 2008, St Anthony NL  Historic Harbour Drive

Most of our destinations on today’s driving tourist day,  were not  in any of the guides,  brochures or logs of fellow travelers.  We spoke to our  campground neighbors  last evening who  made the recommended route today.  And what  a day it was!  To recap before I start,  we saw one  iceberg, one moose, 4 osprey (2  parents and 2 babies high in a nest) , the most northerly inhabited community in Newfoundland, several ancient  rocky  fossil filled  ledges, rocky oceanfront and a light house in Harbour Cove  dating back to some  early date I can’t recall.   We did not see any cell towers so had no  phone service at all today which  is a first for  our entire Canadian travels.  We are in a really really remote and  beautiful  section of the  world.

We could see Labrador across the Straits of Bell Island today.  The  sky was a perfect clear blue for most of the day and that always enhances our spirits.  We started out with a packed lunch ( of course) and headed out to Cape Norman to find Cooks Harbor, Wild Bight and Boat Harbor.  These little villages have no more than a  few hundred residents and we learned many of them spend the winter inland after the fishing season ends.  The plants here are unique in that they must adapt to the shortest,  coolest summer season found in NL, with the windiest and the  wettest soil.  Plants hunker down low to the ground and the few trees huddle together and stay low.  Despite this, the locals find fertile grounds and  till wonderful gardens along the road with  potatoes and turnips as their main crop for their root cellars in the winters.  I’ll show you some of the hundreds of woodpiles along the way.  Wood is cut in winter and allowed to  dry out in the summer.  In the fall it is hauled closer to home for those cold winter days and wood burning stove.

Once out on Cooks Harbour on HWY 436 we photographed the lighthouse and  crawled down the levels of  rocks to view the hidden fossils in them.  Terry found what he  thought to be a fish and Russ found what he thought to be a worm.  We had our picnic lunch in the car overlooking the sea due to the wind and the big black flies. Courtesy of a fly, (I think)  I have a welt the size of a sand dollar on my arm and it itches like crazy but I do not complain as this  rustic scenery is some of the best I’ve ever seen in the world.  Oh wait did I tell you that yesterday?  It just  keeps getting better up here.  While up at this vantage point Terry  says, “ There’s an Iceberg.”   I said, “No I think it is a cruise ship.”   Russ’ powerful binoculars confirm it as an iceberg.  This is our 7th sighting of a berg so  far.  It was way off on the horizon and not  possible for a good photo but  made us excited all the same. 

We followed the bay back around to Cape Onion and Ships Cove. Cape Onion boasts of being the most northerly community, geographically on the Island of Newfoundland.  In Ship Cove we saw the handicrafts of a local who has created an exquisite miniature village.  We stopped the car at every angle to get a good vantage point of the fishing villages.  At one point I  holler, ”Moose at 10 o’clock!”   Sure enough out on the meadow is a moose grazing.  Terry can see through his powerful telephoto that he is a male with the early start of antlers.  It’s a fuzzy photo blown up that many times but I saw him first! I had been practicing saying this location for  miles and indeed days.  Thank you to Fred Thomas for teaching me  the directions.  It worked. 
In Raleigh we stopped so Russ and I could visit Taylor’s Crafts.  This man carves beautiful things from soapstone,  Talc, whale bone , moose bone, moose antlers and a variety of other stones.  He has participated in  the Olympic Carving events.   His stuff is NOT the  cheaply  made in China tourist stuff.  We shall think overnight about some of his creations.  He was very good.  I think his shop was the only business in Raleigh.  There may have been a “Supermarket, gas bar.”

Burnt Cape Ecological Reserve is along the way but we did not go in to the  Pistolet Bay Provincial  Park for a guided tour.  The book says this place has some of  the world’s most cherished and botanical wonders.  Rare plants are found here nestled among the rugged stone, mossy mounds and low shrubbery. Lots of limestone here.

Terry is  fixing photos and  I am making ready for our trip into the  library parking lot in St Anthony where we can send our email.  From there we will attend a Viking feast.  This will be covered in the journal tomorrow.






Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 20, 2008, 04:17:54 PM

BTW we are really enjoying your journey - bringing back many happy memories - thank you !!

Paul an Ann Marie,

Glad you are enjoying the journal. We most likely won't get back to See Anchors Aweigh but we are parked by the St Anthony Municipal Buildingn this Sunday evening and are being treated to the local "Drive in" Church service.  Their music and sermon is blasting through the hills.  Not too bad to get religion and internet access all at the same time.  Their are lots of cars here in the lot.  I wish you coud  hear the  songs!

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on July 20, 2008, 07:19:05 PM
"But they wont see these messages before then as I think internet will be VERY patchy up there (though there was a tiny CG who advertised WiFi IIRC)."
I am reading this in St Anthony at 9;45 pm, sitting in the Brewers car. All 3 of us have our laptops out and are downloading at the public library parking lot. We were here earlier and got our dose of religion with the internet...There was a drive up church service going on in the lot next to the library.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 22, 2008, 07:30:55 AM
July 21, 2008  L’Anse Aux   Meadows, St Anthony , NL  Viking  Home 1,000 years ago

Today was a  dream come true that I created in 5th grade when I studied the Vikings who  landed in Vinland.  Today I stood in the  community they landed !   The  most  surrealistic fact was the couple who searched for this site  finally found it in the mid  60‘s . Those  archeologists had tenacity and  vivid imaginations.   I would never have found this spot.  The mounds were found after 1,000 years.  We took  a walking tour from a Parks Canada Guide who  told  us  about the  building mounds they found.  The definitive  find was a  steel pin that proved the Viking Settlement was here.  They  recreated  sod huts  to reflect life in those days.  I saw a few children try to  work the bellows to fuel the fires that made nails for their ship repair.  The view of the bay was spectacular on this clear warm sunny day. 

I bought a  jacket to  memorialize my visit here. 

Terry was  good sport and  toured us though each gift shop along the way.  I have lots of souvenirs as a result, incase you are on my Christmas list I won’t tell what I bought today.  But I will show you the scenery of fishing villages, coastline and yes we saw another iceberg today. 

We let Russ off at our campground after a full day of touring and   ventured out to St Anthony to see the Grenfell Experience.  We learned of  a man who was  true pioneer as medical Doctor, a missionary and an humanitarian.  He  contributed  opportunities of the  folks on this Northern  Peninsula and Labrador who  had a really  tough life.   His story is told in sections of buildings in  the town. If you are in St Anthony you MUST visit this  place to learn of a man  who made  difference in is life.  I wish we all could.

The  hospital rotunda has  a Jodi Bonet  mural.  He  lost an arm at an early age and  overcame this to become a brilliant  ceramist and  was invited to  give  memorial to his hospital  which is  the only one in the north of Newfoundland and Labrador.  The tiles murals   are wonderful especially considering the obstacles he had to overcome to make his  name here .

While  typing up this journal tonight, I noticed  our neighbors gathering outside.  They saw  a moose munching on the  trees in our campground. We got our cameras  and I radioed Russ on CB so he could also get shots.  Whew it never  gets blasé.  I just love our  life.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 22, 2008, 07:44:27 AM
July 21, 2008  Part 2, St Anthony Evening Activity

As promised, here is the information on  The Great Viking Feast at Leifsburdir, our  dinner experience, last night.  The caravans attend a supper here and so did we.  We would not attend it again.  If you had a  caravan of friends to  make fun at the trial it  “may” be worth the $45 per  person admission.  The  appetizers were salted Capelins and cod tongue.  Terry is still  wanting water for the salt.  I ate the cod tongues and am still politely spitting into my napkin. The Red wine Russ ordered sat  unfinished.   Each table was asked to find a person among them who had broken a law.  Now if we had broken any law, we are not the sort of folks to admit it in public,  so we were the only table  who did not submit a  wrong doing.  We did sit with folks who were here on  medical business from Labrador to visit the Curtis Memorial Medical Center.    More on this later.

After a buffet dinner of  roast beef, steamed  cabbage, potatoes and our choices of salmon, moose stew  or cod we were under whelmed. Dessert was  Partridge  berry  pancakes with a dollop of whipped cream.  This may have been ok at a lesser price but we did not think this event warranted the price.  So tourists be warned.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 06:46:29 PM
Betty:

Hope they serve lobster nearby. ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 22, 2008, 07:33:52 PM
Jeff I forgot to mention, there are several lobster pounds in Shediac where they'll sell you live or cooked lobster.  I usually buy select canners, which run about 3/4 of a pound, we paid $745 per pound but that was about 3 weeks ago.  Also, get a few crab clusters, they're as good if not better than the lobster.  You'll get about 3 times the lobster/crab for your $22.  A quick stop at the Save Easy will get you some rolls and potato or pasta salad, and you've got yourself a fiest.  Sorry we won't be there to host it.  Maybe on your way back.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 23, 2008, 10:11:15 AM
July 22,2008 St Barbe, NL St. Barbe RV Parking (709) 877-2272

We traveled from St. Anthony’s this morning the short distance of 71.7 miles to St Barbe. This is a basically a fenced parking lot right across from the ferry office where we will leave our rig overnight and tomorrow night. We will take the car onto a ferry to Labrador in the morning. We left Russ to stay another day in St Anthony as he did not want to pack up his C-pap machine for an over night in a motel. The lot is a reasonable $16 per night or $20 if you get an electrical cord to your rig. I did a load of laundry and talked with fellow escapees who have been down the coast we are headed. We exchanged travel hints.

Interestingly enough Terry got a US TV signal tonight. I’m not sure if I am glad or sad to have gotten a local US news report tonight. We have been cushioned from the world with no news for almost a month. The news casts are not especially positive!

I’m reading up on all the brochures and will pack a suit case tonight for our overnight in a motel. Ukkkkkk we hate packing up a tooth brush.

We will both take our laptop computers in hopes of reaching a wi-fi signal tomorrow. There is NO public wi-fi signal here in St Barbe, NL tonight. Oh boy we are roughing it!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: RVOA on July 23, 2008, 11:26:01 AM

Betty

I wouldnt take your laptops to Labrador - I've heard the flies are that big in Labrador they will carry them off.  ;D You may have to tie the slimmed Russ down too  :D

Paul
UK-RV
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 23, 2008, 11:37:50 AM
Paul, from what I hear it's not the flies you need to be concerned about, it's the love struck moose.  The anti aircraft guns left by the Americans keep the flies under control.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 23, 2008, 02:02:49 PM
Betty, regarding the flies.  DON'T FORGET BUG REPELLANT AND BENEDRYL!  Aside from Key Largo's no-see-ums, those little tiny Labrador black flies gave me the worst welts I've ever had.  We loved climbing the lighthouse and seeing the historic whaling village at Red Bay, but we went unprepared for the flies and their bites itched for a couple of weeks.  If we ever return I will take our Alaskan mosquito hats.  Plan to wear long sleeves and cover up well.  They "got" me near the lighthouse when we went to see the shipwrecks.

Have a great time!
ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: RVOA on July 23, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
On our 2nd night in NF, we stayed at Grand Codroy RV Resort (Doyles), about 1hr from Port Aux Basque.

We were covered in the little blighters - and we also suffered with the itching for a week or so after.

Strange that we never had issues with those flies thru our whole time in NF other than that CG.

Betty - there is a handy overnight spot (for your return ferry crossing) in a layby to the side of the hotel in Port Aux Basques (turn right as you get to gas station coming into town and then pass hotel on your right, continue and turn left into the car park for the supermarket/cinema so you can turnaround and come back out to find the hotel pullin on your left).

Paul
UK-RV

NB In case any of you are due a haircut, Ann-Marie had her hair cut/colored by a lady in a little "shed" hair salon close to Grand Codroy Rv Resort (she had to take her own color ;D). The owner of the CG booked it for her.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on July 24, 2008, 09:49:57 AM
St Anthony. 7/19-23. Wifi at library, 2 blocks E of Tim Horton's. Our CG is 5 miles N of town, quiet, but full of caravans so we had to make do with 15 amps. Had no trouble with that and elected not to move when caravans left. Saw several moose, including one in the CG right across from Brewers. Our trip up to the north shore lighthouse netted us 2 osprey, 2 icebergs (8 total) and a view of 400 million year old fossils on a rock ledge just above the surf. With europeans being here for 400+ yrs, there are cemeteries everywhere.

We looked into every cove and village available and found delightful views everywhere. As Betty was reading from the tour book about a craftsman of model lighthouses, we stumbles upon his house with the wares displayed out front . We both bought an item from him. I am always on the lookout for kitch and overdecorated yards. Several presented themselves to my camera. One yard had a barrel with a pair of legs sticking out the top. Another, across the island, had hundreds of toys and lawn ornaments...yes, including pink flamingos.

Our tour of L'anse au Meadow was moving. I have wanted to visit this Viking settlement for decades.
 My last day in St Anthony started foggy but soon rose up. However is stuck around the coast all day and gave me lots of mystic photo ops.


Port au Choix 7/23 Sunny drive down from St Anthony, uneventful. Lion's club CG is on east edge of town (which looks minute because most of it is over the hill), water/30 amp + dump station out front, one row of back in sites facing the ocean/bay of St Laurence to the SW.  There are no waves, no swell, and hardly any ripples. Wifi is at the library in Port Saunders, at the west end of main st, next to a wharf and a block E of the municipal bldg.

The terrain is remarkable. There are the usual trees at the base of the peninsula, but out here at the tip it is a gravely limestone desert with only scattered low lying plants that are rare and endangered.

When the last ice age ended 10,000 yrs ago the tip was all under water and has gradually rebounded with the townsite getting dry 1500 yrs ago. The area was sequentially inhabited by indians from the south, then 3 waves of esquimo forerunners and finally europeans. There is an interpretive center out near the lighthouse that I tried to check out but mostly failed due to the dim lighting and me wearing trifocals.

Drove back up N 60 miles to Flower cove. Got pics of the lighthouse that sits at sea level. Delightful view from the bluff. At the south edge of town is a small boardwalk and pedestrian bridge along the bay shore leading stromatolites...lumps of algae and bacteria with wave washed in sand and dirt. A very primitive lifeform that existed in precambrian times, 600 million or more years ago.

Just N of the next village S of there is a small waterfall on the inland side of the road and visible only when N bound.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Just Lou on July 24, 2008, 09:58:39 PM
Thanks Russ, appreciate all the photos.  Great shots! ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 25, 2008, 09:15:43 AM
July 23, 2008 L’Anse aux St Clair, Labrador      Northern Lights Motel

We  left  St Anthony Newfoundland in our motor home. We then left it at the Ferry  dock in the St. Barbe  RV Parking lot designed for people to leave rigs while they travel to Labrador.  We took the  10:30 am MV Apollo  Ferry to Blanc Sablon, Quebec and drove our car to Labrador.   The lady on board the  ferry said the last two days have been the most beautiful weather they have had all year.  It is crystal clear and not a hint of haze.  We could see the shores on both sides of the Strait of Belle Isle our 1.5 hour  ferry ride across 28 miles.  For those living in California think of Catalina.  It was that far and you could see land almost the entire way so you know it was  an exceptional day.

We land in Quebec as the harbor there,  only 3 kilometers from the Labrador border is a better fit  for a large ferry.  Our first destination was L’Anse au Clair where we visited a 20th Century restored Church that housed the visitor center.  We used their email access.  We then checked into  the Northern Lights Motel and hit the road for touring the Labrador Coastal Drive. It  is only  a narrow  two lane road and not hard to find as it is the only road.    We are excited to be in yet another part of Canada on our journey.

Labrador is referred to as the big land as it has more than 200,000 Kilometers of largely untouched pristine natural environment. It looked much like Alaskan landscape.   It is more than twice the size of all Maritime Provinces.  Our little visit today will be merely a taste of the landscape.  We visited  3 National Historic Sites and learned that Labrador has been home to aboriginal peoples for over 9,000 years.  The Innu, Inuit, Metis(British and French) , Settlers (from  Canada and US , Vikings , the Basques (mostly whalers)  and Moravians all touched the history of Labrador.  My first impression was that this place is different from  NL in that it is more rocky but it also has beautiful white sand beaches along some of the shorelines.  The hills rolled high and dropped steeply down curves and along the fabulous Pinware River.   Our first stop was L’Anse Amour, Cove of Love.  We passed the earliest known burial site in North America dating back 7500 years ago.  We’ve seen many, many grave yards in NL  but none this old!  We rounded a corner to have the  beautiful  Point Amour Lighthouse come into sight.  It is the tallest in the Atlantic and still in use.  We climbed the 128 steps in a cool flyless atmosphere.  The walls are of limestone and  are 6 feet thick to protect it from the up to 124 mph winds they get with 30 foot crashing waves in a storm.  No wonder so many ships were lost along here with that kind of weather, but sailors were willing to risk this route as it cuts off nearly 200 miles  on a European ocean crossing.  We really enjoyed this very well done Historic site and would recommend it as a must see if you come here!  The  staff is in period costumes and very  interesting displays tell a personal story of James Wyatt who kept the light glowing here for 44 years.  Did you know a lighthouse keeper was expected to give Sunday sermons those all who worked at Lighthouse ?   I mentioned flies.  The tour book and former travelers to Labrador warned us so I had insect repellent and  Spray Benedryl.  But the little suckers just swarm.  We are told black flies are a sign of a clean environment, yeah right.  We saw Bug Coats advertised along the road in front of the convenience store so  I went in to check them out.  It was like a mesh hooded sweatshirt for $12.99 .  We saw pedestrians out for their daily walk  all bundled up in them.  Terry and I decided  that our protection from flies would come in the form of skipping the hikes.  Too bad as the scenery was so lovely and such a day.   We drove  up the coast through each little fishing village.  Some only have 35 residents.  This is not a densely populated area!

We  went as far as Red Bay.  This bay was used in  the 16th century by the Basques whalers.  They were so good at catching whales that they nearly drove the whale population to extinction. In 1978 Archeologist divers found  the well preserved remains of a ship wrecked Basque whaling vessel dating 1550.  It was excavated piece by piece,  studied, documented, modeled and then  re buried in the site it was found.  It was thought the mother nature had done such a good job of preserving it for all those years she should be returned to her resting place.  The Visitor center was among the most informative of all  places we have visited.  We could have walked out among the ruins at  Saddle Island but we don’t like flies!   
 We passed a wooden  bridge over Pinware River for some spectacular scenery shots.  It is a  world renowned salmon fishing destination and fisher people should  make note if they plan to visit here.
We returned to our motel, happy with our treasured finds of the day.   Despite the advertising, we could not get any wi-fi at our motel.  We hate staying in motels and did not sleep well but we did get TV and  got to watch So You Think You Can Dance.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 25, 2008, 09:17:00 AM
July 24, 2008  Port au Choix, Newfoundland,   Ocean View Campground

We packed up this morning and  left Labrador via the return ferry trip at 10:30 am.  It was  another pretty day and smooth sailing back to Newfoundland.  We are sitting at a magnificent place facing the crashing waves of the ocean.  It  is our thought to stay another day to rest up from some of our sight seeing days!  The campground is owned by the local Lions Club and is only $20  a night for  electric and water. 

The drive back down this coast was equally  beautiful as the  way up but isn’t it funny how scenery looks different from the other direction.  We met up  here with Russ.  We have to drive  up to the next village for internet signal  but this ocean view is worth it all.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on July 25, 2008, 10:03:42 AM
I moved back down to Rocky Harbor today as the wifi signal quit on us last night. Yesterday was sunny and breezy from the south so waves are back.

Today it is low overcast with misting. Could not see the big mts at Gros Morne.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 25, 2008, 12:45:18 PM
Betty,

Like you we had a wonderful sunny day when we climbed to the top of the lighthouse.  Isn't it a fabulous view?!?  I'm so glad you had a good visit too!

I think the Bug Coats are a wonderful idea.  Wish I'd had one when we were there.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 26, 2008, 06:53:17 PM
July 25, 26, 2008 Port Au Choix to Deer Creek  Gateway Campground

It was nice to take a day off from touring yesterday and just sit and watch the waves lap the rocky ledges of our campground. We took a drive out to Port Au Choix National Historic site but did not go in. We are tired of touring for a day or so.

7/26

Left and drove south back down the Viking Highway 150 miles the way we’d come almost a week ago. The weather was gloomy and it rained much of the way. We are so fortunate to have seen this drive in clear weather as it is so much prettier on a sunny day. We met up again with Russ here in Deer Creek, in Gateway Campground (which is a Passport America Park, but they don’t honor this during July or August) It has free wi-fi and is right across the street from and amazingly interesting tourist attraction.

The Insectarium and butterfly Pavilion is in a converted Dairy barn built in the forties and is now the home of a collection of live butterflies, insects, spiders, beetles, bugs and other crawly things. It was like looking at a gigantic science project. Did you know most butterflies only live about 2 weeks? We saw the Queen Bee in a honey comb. We saw coach roaches bigger than I ever want to see again. Butterflies lighted on us in the big tent. It was good for an hour or so of amusement. If you are driving by, there is a big parking lot in back so  you could just Park RV and tour and move on, but we opted to stay the one night here. It has rained all afternoon and into the evening.
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Post by: Betty Brewer on July 28, 2008, 03:48:42 PM
July 27, 2008 Cornerbrook  Prince Edward  RVpark.

We moved down the road only 32 miles today to Corner Brook . While in transit we noted they had closed one lane each direction of the freeway. Seems they were having the second annual Ironman triathlon and the bike portion of the event was on the Trans Canada 1. It was 82 degrees today and we watched those adventuresome souls labor up the grades. Remind me never to try a triathlon. (Like there would ever be a need!)

We ended up in Prince Edward RV Park (in the trees ) despite their web site that showed a clear cut . We went by the Visitor center, got local maps and started out on our car tour of the Peninsula. Most people who arrive in Newfoundland hit the Ferry and head North to the Gros Morne Park but since we already did that, this tourist trip was a personal recommendation of the area from escapee friends who we spoke to at the ferry to Labrador.

We have noted that each community hold it’s own distinct personality. With another beautiful day we saw wonderful sites and then had a chance to re-stalk our supplies with the grocery stores in the second largest community of NL. We dined at home and will move on in the morning. I am beginning to feel sad that we will leave this wonderful province all too soon.

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Post by: KodiakRV on July 28, 2008, 08:59:41 PM
It's INCREDIBLE how fast the grass grows there!   ;D
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Post by: rhmahoney on July 29, 2008, 04:10:42 AM
7/27/2008 Port au Port peninsula, hywy 460 Route of the french ancestors. The area is populous and all live along the main hywy. Most houses are prosperous and well kept. There are some marvelous examples of yard kitch. On the west coast are 2 nearby (in competition with each other?) examples using cement and riverstone columns as fenceposts, painted white with red trim. A simple border would have been charming... but these guys went overboard and lined the paths as well and one uses white lawn statuary as pickets between the the posts as well as borders for the flower beds and small central monuments in the small patches of grass!

This area is drier than the north and the plant cover is more mature with the grasses gone to seed. Wildflowers still abound. Fireweed dominates and the small yellow blossoms are rare.

The most scenic site is Cape St George on the SW tip. The view from the bluff is dramatic looking to the N. A Gannett colony can be heard but is too far away for photos. Best chance of seeing whales is here, though we saw ours at Jerrys nose.

Sheavers point has good cliffs and fishing activity. The seashore walk is good at low tide. There is a big waterfall here earlier in the year but is now dried up.

Marches point. Another folk art overdone yard with model lighthouses. Terry did not stop so I could not document this great kitsch example.

Zensville CG, 2 Km west of Kippins. I can recommend this only if the weather is cool. Very poor 30 amp power. 10 amp draw dropped the voltage to 110 and 20 amps to 101 V! This was at both sites 10 and 18.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 29, 2008, 07:11:01 AM
July 28, 2008 Kippens, NL  (Near Stephenville)  Zenzville RV Park


We  drove  58 miles  today.  We are taking our sweet time as we near the end of Newfoundland.  We arrived at our park and checked in at a house.  First time I have stood in someone’s living room to check in.  We packed our lunch and  ventured off to tour the  Port au Port Peninsula via The French Ancestor Route.  It was formerly known as the French Shore as only in 1904 did  Newfoundland get control from France.  The  end of the  peninsula at Cape St George  was among the most beautiful we have seen.  We were high above the tides on  cliffs and overlooked breaking waves, gigantic oceans and I saw a whale.  They guys did not see it nor did they believe me.  But I did. 

On the way we  took  small side dirt road out to  Jerry’s Nose and tried to discover which rock formation may have that shape.  I took photos of all of them   but I really could not identify “the one.”  We shall ask the Fitzgerald’s who were here in 2006.  We did see  a capestan which is the devise used to  winch your boat up a cliff from the top of a cliff. We passed an alpaca farm.  We took a wonderful surprise stop at Shreave Cove.  Fishermen were cleaning cod and swimmers were out in a  rocky beach bay, enjoying the water.  It was hot today.  Terry and I  hiked out over  loose rocks  along the shore (again the wrong hiking shoes) out to a cave.  It was evident that the tides came in over  our trail as it was covered with bright green spongy moss.   This a  photographers paradise.

 We stopped at the Alpaca farm for ice cream cones.  We stopped to photograph the largest wooden  church in NL. We got home and it rained letting up on some of the heat of the day.  I was glad we had packed our lunch as restaurants are not very  abundant here on this  peninsula despite homes  along the entire way.  We saw a variety of homes, some  humble, some very neat with manicured gardens and some  just plain junky and tacky.  We hope we can make a connection with Ron and Shirley when they cross on ferry 7/30 .  We will meet up with Sue and Jeff  back in New Brunswick when we cross ferry on 7/31.  Terry gets a hint of a satellite signal here but so slow.  I’ll drive up to the  campground driveway to catch a signal when it quits raining.   

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 29, 2008, 03:55:43 PM
Betty, don't feel bad.  We couldn't find Jerry's Nose either.  And I was dying to see what someone else thought his nose looked like!  ;)

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on July 31, 2008, 07:55:38 AM
July 29, 30, 2008 Port Au Basques. Grand Codroy RV Park .

July 29, 2008 This was a day of rest and relaxation at our campground Grand Codroy RV . I forget to tell you that yesterday at 11:30 am on our way to the campground traveling about 50 MPH a moose burst out of the trees and across the road 50 to 60 yards in front of us. Three or four seconds later a little baby moose followed mamma out on the road in front of us. If either animal had bolted out directly in front of us there would have been NO time to slow or stop and there would have been a big problem. While it is very thrilling to see moose, it is very scary to almost hit them. I got no photos as I got on CB to tell Russ about them. They both scurried into the thicket on the other side of the road so Russ got no look . Whew, welcome to the wild….

July 30, 2008 Port Au Basques touring Day

Terry and I set off on the tour of the area that Russ did yesterday while we rested. We headed out to Cape Anguille to see the lighthouse. I was all set to do my step exercise and climb to top but when we arrived we found it was not open to the public as it is still a navigation aid. The brochure I had, said “Lighthouse Inn” in the fine print. It is bed and breakfast advertised to provide quiet in the out buildings of the former lighthouse keeper. No phone, no TV . They did have a helicopter pad so maybe the rich and famous fly here for a quiet retreat. Once again we lucked out with NL weather. The fog burned off and we had a lovely day.

We headed for the city Port Au Basques where the ferry will carry us out of NL at 4 pm 7/31. We visited the Heritage Railway Museum and toured a former Newfie train. We saw the largest snow plow imaginable in front of the engine. We saw the first class passenger space, dining a car and mail car and caboose. The NL railroads used narrow gauge rails and all cars shipped over for use had to be retooled to become narrow rails. These train stopped running in 1980 something. They ran for almost 100 years and then the high winds proved fatal to their treks. It was worth a look at them to see this part of history now slowly rusting away.

Forty five KM east of Port Au Basques we traveled through wonderful scenery. Lush green tundra plants hovered over rolling hills with ponds and more ponds all over. They have no boulders as it looks like ice glaciers (once upon a time ) may have carried all the boulders to St John’s. We went to the end of the road to visit Rose Blanche Lighthouse. It is one of the only totally granite Lighthouses along the Atlantic Canada border. It became my favorite lighthouse so far. I loved the big carved granite stones. ( I think I was reminded of the recent book I read, Pillars of the Earth and the stone carver. ) The city of Rose Blanche restored this lighthouse in 1999 with an all volunteer effort. The pride in this landmark was wonderful. We had lunch at the bed and Breakfast Restaurant right at the path to the lighthouse and enjoyed the view. It was a very pleasant last day in Newfoundland!

 



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Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on July 31, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
The railroad train was called the Bullit, because of it's speed, albeit not very quick by our standards.  A short way out of Channel Port Aux Basque there is an area that forms a wind tunnel when the wind blows from a certain direction.  They had to put tie downs beside the railway track where they would stop the train, tie it down so that it would not tip over.  I have friends who actually were on the train when that had to be done.
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Post by: Ned on July 31, 2008, 09:21:36 AM
We saw one of those plows at the Henry Ford museum.
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Post by: JerArdra on July 31, 2008, 12:00:50 PM
Too bad Newfoundland used narrow gauge rails.  Possibly if they have chosen the wider gauge the trains may not have blown over.

JerryF
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Post by: Chet18013 on July 31, 2008, 12:32:15 PM
They have one of those plows at SteamTown. This one was built from wood, not steel. It's a shame, but it was just sitting there rotting away when I was there with Jim Dick 3 years ago. You should definitely put SteamTown on your list of must visit when you go through PA this fall.

Chet18103
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on July 31, 2008, 02:15:21 PM
Betty, I'm so glad that you got to see the Port aux Basques area.  We left if for last and the fog was so bad we actually left NL a day early.  You couldn't see a car length ahead of you on the road.  I really wanted to go out to that lighthouse.  An excuse to return!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 03, 2008, 09:27:41 AM
August 1, 2008 Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, Seal Island North Sydney KOA

We spent the night at our familiar boon docking space near the ferry and traveled the short distance to the KOA where we had made arrangements to meet up with Jeff and Sue Cousin.

After determining that the guys could get the TV signal they required to get the Formula One Race ( After a long dry spell with no TV in Newfoundland) we stayed at the KOA in North Sydney. We toured the Alexander Graham Bell Museum in Breddock. It is amazing to hear about a guy so brilliant he invented not only the telephone but dozens of other significant inventions as well. A note I found of significance is that if he had gone to school in today’s time he would likely have been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder. He was not successful in school due to his boredom and his grandfather was left to give him private schooling. The talk given by a Canada Parks guide ” made” the museum as she filled us in on the history of the family and it helped to define the exhibits.

We dined with Jeff and Sue at a nearby  restaurant recommended by the campground host and it offered two for one dinners. I enjoyed my scallops. We joined Jeff and Sue at their motor home and exchanged travel tips, campgrounds and tourist “Must sees.” We will leave in the morning for a tourist activity to be determined by the weather, either Cabot Trail or Louisburg.




Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on August 03, 2008, 12:52:41 PM
Betty --  No description of the ferry trip back from NF?  Anything noteworthy there?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 03, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
August 2, 2008 Louisbourg, Nova Scotia Fortress of Louisbourg

Even though,  the weather was overcast and misty we opted to trek down the coast to visit the National Historic Site of Canada, The Fortress of Louisbourg. Russ had been there 8 years ago so he opted out of the day’s activity. Jeff was designated as the driver for the day and the 4 of us set out on an adventure through Nova Scotia, which is very different from Newfoundland. The area is much more populated and tourist venues exist all over. Cute B& B’s with large expansive lawns and manicured gardens dot the highway. Most homes  also have have well defined grassy yards and beautiful flower gardens. The coast would have looked even more picturesque if we had a sunny day but you get what you get when talking about the weather.

We arrived at the Fortress(not a fort) of Louisbourg. A Fortress encircles an entire community. It was founded in 1713 by the French and used as a busy sea port to send cod back to the mostly Catholic France who required 142 days of non meat eating days. It was also the Administrative capital of French holdings and a center of trade. In addition it was a military stronghold and naval base to protect French interests. It fell to British in 1758 for a final time. It became a National Historic Site in 1928.

The park is  a Town site  reconstructed in 1961 to 20% of it’s original size. Since no other city was built on top of it, archeologists were able to find foundations and recreate it in exact detail. Architectural drawing also existed that gave clues as to the nature of the Fortress in 1744. There are 25 buildings open for public view and exhibits were well done. The most special thing about this place to visit is that dozens of costumed people step into the role they might have had in the day and speak to us of their life in present tense. We spoke to guards, servants, society ladies, children , musicians and on and on. You can tell from the photos that weather helped to created the realistic picture of the hardships endured by early residents. It was rainy, cool damp misty and we all had water spotted glasses! There were no hot dogs nor McDonalds’ available for lunch. We were only given a spoon for our peasant meal of soup and dry bread. Terry had a hard time with this realistic feature of the times. I loved my split pea soup.

On the bus ride back to the parking lot an Acadian couple recommended that we tour the nearby Miners Museum in Cape Breton. So off we go, hi ho , hi ho…… Retired miners give guided tours of the Oceans Deep Colliery mine. We saw coal mining as it was done in the 1900’s . All coal was loaded by hand shovel and for 65 cents a ton. Miners worked 12 hour days 6 days a week and like cod fishermen owed their soul to the company store! The mines were only built as high as the coal vein so we traveled in tunnels 4.5 foot high. Needless to say we had been issued hard hats and they did prove needed! Jeff and Terry had the hardest time with the height of the tunnels! These mines went out under the Atlantic Ocean where much coal still exists (and our ceilings dripped) but it hasn’t been cost effective to mine for some time. With increased fuel costs private companies are now looking at the feasibility of reopening the mines.

We called Russ to join us for dinner at the end of a long touring day.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 03, 2008, 02:29:50 PM
Betty --  No description of the ferry trip back from NF?  Anything noteworthy there?

Kodiak,
Thanks for  paying attention. Something got lost in cyberspace I guess, or as one rcently posted....  Error between chair and computer.

July 31,2008 Ferry from Port au Basques, NL to North Sydney ,Nova Scotia

We boarded our Marine Atlantic Ferry at 3 pm for a 4 pm departure that was delayed an hour. The fare was $355.52 for 2 people and 59 feet of ferry space for motor home and car connected. $ 32.02 of this was a fuel tax added surcharge. The ride was smooth and in a very nice ship compared to the long ferry one month ago.

Terry and Russ started the voyage with soft serve ice cream while I headed for the lounge as I heard music. The onboard entertainment came in the form of a really good singer and the Newfie passengers. Seems there is a big Eagles concert in town 8/2 and 75% of passengers in the lounge were on their way to the concert. What a party! Those Newfies know how to have a good time. We just hoped they had designated drivers for the ride off the ferry. After a short 5 hour ride, we docked at 10 pm and used the bread crumbs on the GPS from last trip here to find our boon docking spot for the night. We will meet up with Jeff and Sue on Friday 8/1.

I am sad to leave Newfoundland. It has made it to my list of places to return. We had good weather almost everywhere and met wonderfully friendly people.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on August 03, 2008, 03:16:58 PM
If you get about halfway down the east coast of NS, we heartily recommend the Fisheries Museum of the Atlantic in Lunenburg. 

Also very memorable were the gravesites of the Titanic victims in a cemetry in Halifax, as well as the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic in Halifax with numerous Titanic artifacts.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 04, 2008, 01:29:28 PM
August 3 and  August 4, 2008   Seal Island KOA North Harris , Nova Scotia

We started out to tour the Cabot Trail in misty cloudy weather.  About  30 miles later it was now pouring and we could not see any scenery along the road.  Jeff and Sue were following in their car and announced on our radios they were going to turn back and try the trip next month when they return from Newfoundland.  We made the  decision  to try it tomorrow, at the next  exit.  We had  breakfast in  Baddeck at a wonderful bakery and  retuned to the motor home. Later in the evening we joined Jeff and Sue for  a lobster dinner  at a restaurant overlooking the water. and then  returned to  Baddeck to  enjoy some Cape Breton music.  It was the Baddeck Gathering Ceilidh featuring  fiddle music.  It was a very entertaining evening and we  stamped our feet to the music.  I learned that one does not clap along to music when a fiddle is playing.  You stomp your foot  as clapping signifies you want them to stop.   


8/4/08 While we had planned on taking the  Cabot Trail today is still  raining (harder than ever)  so we’ve changed our plans and will stay another day here to try to catch some clear skies for our  drive. I’m taking the day off.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on August 04, 2008, 07:18:24 PM
August 3 and  August 4, 2008   Seal Island KOA North Harris , Nova Scotia
  I learned that one does not clap along to music when a fiddle is playing.  You stomp your foot  as clapping signifies you want them to stop.   

I got a chuckle out of hearing about that local custom.  It would never "play" in Alabama or Texas.  (As the band Alabama used to sing, "when you want to play in Texas, you gotta have a fiddle in the band.")    You can bet there was a lot of hollerin', stompin' and clappin' going on at Alabama's concerts.  ;D

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 05, 2008, 11:10:56 AM
Margi:

We got informed of the custom after all the Americans in the audience started clapping along with the music. ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 05, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
August 5, 2008 North Sydney, NS     Golden Arm RV Park


You may have noted that we moved to a new RV park today.(Within  12 miles from the last one)   Here is the reason. 

 I went to bed last night at  around 12 pm. It had continued to rain lightly all day and  into the evening and now and then we heard thunder.   Terry stays up to watch TV.  When I was drifting off to sleep I thought I heard something  fall off the bed.  You know,   a shoe,  a jacket or  whatever  but  then I realized I did not have anything on the bed to fall off.  Nevertheless,   I drifted off to sleep but I could not sleep as I smelled the smoke of  electrical wires burning.  I wandered out to the living room and  told Terry he need to check the back.  He wondered why I was interrupting his late night TV but I convinced him SMOKE was a good reason.  I  quickly dressed  in real clothes, as now he has all the bedroom windows open .  He trouble shoots the smell and the smoke for  2 hours and  I fear the worst, our inverter is fried, our converter is fried, our 50 amp service is gone.  Good news, the TV’s and the computers work.   

In the morning Terry figured  out that  the Circuit breaker surge protector had done it’s job.  We wonder if  lightning  had struck something close by  and  caused a  power surge.  We asked KOA for a refund  for the prepaid night and moseyed on down the road with Jeff and Sue and Russ to the Golden Arms RV Park to catch wi-fi.   We watched big rigs get stuck in the grass following this   4th or 5th day of rain.  So far I am not  impressed with Nova Scotia weather .  Terry still wants to try to do the Cabot Trail  in the morning.

We opted to eat in  tonight while Russ and Jeff and Sue went out to eat.  I love my own cooking after  eating out so many times.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on August 06, 2008, 05:27:39 AM
8/6/2008 N Sydney, Cape Breton island, Nova Scotia.

On 7/29, last full day on NFLD, drove the S coast 30 miles East to Rose Blanche from Port aux Basques. Wonderful terrain of smooth hills and granite rocks partially covered by heather and stunted forest plus innumerable ponds. No free boulders, the glaciers have exported all of those to St Johns. I imagine this is the look of the moors that Sherlock Holmes would walk

Isle aux Morts, a fishing village at a heavily indented cove is almost as scenic as Peggy's cove. I could have mined this place for pictures for several days.




7/31. the ferry crossing back to NS was smooth, lasted 6 hrs and was enlivened by a musician in the bar across from our seats. Many of the passengers were on their way to an Eagles concert and "participated" in the show.

8/1 We moved over to  a KOA 15 miles west of N Sydney at the foot of Kelly mt. Terry Brewer could just barely get  a TV satellite signal, so we were able to watch the Hungarian F1 race. First TV for a month! We toured the Alexander Graham Bell museum in BaddeckThat afternoon and were joined by the Cousins (arriving from PEI) in the museum.

Bell started out as a speaking teacher to the deaf and married one of his students. She had a mind for business so he gave her all of the stock in his new telephone company and never had to worry about money again, so was able to devote his life to research in phonograph record improvement, kites, airplanes, and hydrofoil boats.

Our entire time here has been plagued by rain. The last straw came when a power surge took out Brewers surge arrestor and left  the cousins and my coaches with reversed polarity power. We had to pull the power cord out of the post and run on battery overnight.

Therefore we moved to a different CG for our last 2 days here. We have been waiting for a sunny day to do the Cabot Trail, But the gray morning suggests we not get that wish.


Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on August 06, 2008, 08:58:21 AM
August 5, 2008 North Sydney, NS     Golden Arm RV Park


You may have noted that we moved to a new RV park today.(Within  12 miles from the last one)   Here is the reason. 

 I went to bed last night at  around 12 pm. It had continued to rain lightly all day and  into the evening and now and then we heard thunder.   Terry stays up to watch TV.  When I was drifting off to sleep I thought I heard something  fall off the bed.  You know,   a shoe,  a jacket or  whatever  but  then I realized I did not have anything on the bed to fall off.  Nevertheless,   I drifted off to sleep but I could not sleep as I smelled the smoke of  electrical wires burning.  I wandered out to the living room and  told Terry he need to check the back.  He wondered why I was interrupting his late night TV but I convinced him SMOKE was a good reason.  I  quickly dressed  in real clothes, as now he has all the bedroom windows open .  He trouble shoots the smell and the smoke for  2 hours and  I fear the worst, our inverter is fried, our converter is fried, our 50 amp service is gone.  Good news, the TV’s and the computers work.   

In the morning Terry figured  out that  the Circuit breaker surge protector had done it’s job.  We wonder if  lightning  had struck something close by  and  caused a  power surge.  We asked KOA for a refund  for the prepaid night and moseyed on down the road with Jeff and Sue and Russ to the Golden Arms RV Park to catch wi-fi.   We watched big rigs get stuck in the grass following this   4th or 5th day of rain.  So far I am not  impressed with Nova Scotia weather .  Terry still wants to try to do the Cabot Trail  in the morning.

We opted to eat in  tonight while Russ and Jeff and Sue went out to eat.  I love my own cooking after  eating out so many times.


Sorry to here you are getting our Newfoundland weather.  We have not had a single sunshiny day since we arrived.  You do need to do the Cabot Trail.  It is the one nice thing in Nova Scotia other than Peggy's Cove.

Shirley and I are just east of Gander at the Square Pond RV Park.  It is the first internet in 4 days.  We tried libraries in six towns and either they were closed or were gone for some reason.  Many places that are supposed to have internet do not and one TV Station is pretty bad.

We finished the Discocery Trail yesterday.  We also had a breakdown with the car.  A Conservation Officer came by and gave us a ride to get some help.  We threw an alternator belt, which in turn, took out a radiator hose.  Took 3 hours to get back on the road.

Say hi to Terry and Russ.

Ron and Shirley
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 06, 2008, 09:23:58 AM
Ron, Brewers, and Russ:

On board the MV Smallwood:

Withing an hour of leaving North Sydney this morning the sun was trying to burn through, hope the same is true of the Cabot Trail today. Still cloudy but bright and good visibility and it is warmer out here than in N Sydney. We left 1 1/2 hours late so like everyone else will arrive 2-3:00AM.

Ron:

Forecast for St John's is improving so maybe all of the Rock will be the same.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on August 06, 2008, 12:40:48 PM
Russ, you got one really great photo of what they call "fishing rooms."  Neat!

Sure hope the weather clears for you.  That's a really pretty area when the sun is out!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 06, 2008, 08:16:45 PM
August 6, 2008 Cabot Trail Drive , Nova Scotia

Today was  “Cabot Trail or Drown Day.”   We’ve waited for 6 days for a clear day to do this trip.  We awoke and it was foggy and rainy but what the heck we were going anyway. I radioed Russ on the CB to see if he was ready to leave in 5 minutes.  He opted to pass on this trip.  He visited Cabot Trail 8 years ago and was moving on down the road to Peggy’s Cove.  So armed with tourist guides, camera, water, chips and  topping off the fuel tank we  headed off on this adventure.  To our amazement  the weather got better and better as we traveled.  We had sun and  rain  but the showers were only in parts of the green tunnel roads.  The Cabot Trail  has been recognized as one of the  top scenic roads in Canada. Tour brochures proved true today.  What a wonderful day.  We had history, scenic beauty, folk art, real art, wildlife ,  a National Park and many many photo opportunities.

The Cabot Trail  is a loop drive  in the  Cape Breton  part of Nova Scotia.  It includes  the Cape Breton Highland National Park ,  many  scenic  coastline villages,   highland forests and some rolling fields.   Down the road  we saw a moose and her baby standing by the road but no time for  a photo.  Luckily on the other side of the island  we saw a first for us….. A male moose munching on  branches  in  the field along the road. Whoo hooo my heart beats fast when I see these guys along the road!

 I added in stops at several local artist studios.  Terry and I  drove off the main route to a studio where we made a  purchase of a lobster plate piece of pottery.  It will  be a souvenir of our Nova Scotia  trip.  We saw a funny  tourist stop along the first part of the trip called Scarecrow Village.  They have hundreds of figures in all kinds of scenes  to  entice the tourist to their lunch wagon.  It was a hoot and too crowded to stay for lunch!   We saw  coastal scenery, crashing waves and a bit of fog covered mountain tops.  It was a wonderful day topped off by our  doctored up homemade  frozen   pizza at home.  We heard from Russ and have our route plotted toward  Halifax tomorrow.  We need to replace the tires on our toad which have now exceeded 80,000  driving/ towing miles.  We noted they are getting bald.   So we are Costco bound in the morning! 
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Post by: Jeff on August 06, 2008, 11:55:21 PM
Betty:

Glad the wait was worthwhile.
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Post by: Ron from Big D on August 07, 2008, 07:04:05 AM
Glad to see you finally made it.  We really enjoyed it.

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Post by: rhmahoney on August 07, 2008, 08:28:15 AM
8/7/2008 King Neptune CG near Peggy's Cove NS

270 mile journey yesterday from the rains of the north to partly cloudy here S of Halifax. This CG is my all time favorite in Canada. It sits on a tiny fishing cove with the usual fisherman's wharfs and shacks, a lobster pound and NO TREES. I got TV but not internet last night. Today, with clear skys I am online with a signal strength of 50.

It is not big enough for the caravans so only 3 rigs and 4 tents . Thus they let me park next to the ocean and park crosswise over 2 sites.
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Post by: JerArdra on August 07, 2008, 12:26:05 PM
Russ,

Please...get a couple of pics of the tiny fishing cove with the usual fisherman's wharfs and shacks.

Thanks a bunch,
JerryF
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Post by: Betty Brewer on August 07, 2008, 12:46:03 PM
August 7, 2008 Halifax, Costco Parking Lot

Terry and Betty have arrived in Halifax.  We are parked  in the Costco parking lot hoping to be first in line in the morning for new tires for the  GMC Envoy.  So far folks in  Halifax  have not been too friendly.  OK, OK  we did block the entire driveway when we could not make the turn into the parking lot.  A car was not legally parked and we did not wish to run into him.  Of course with car in tow, we can't back up.  so we calmly get out, unhook car.  Get it out of way.  Back up and now we can swing  in to make the turn.  Problem solved. I'm reminded to be nice and to be patient when motorists or RVers have some troubles on the road.

 We too have internet and TV.  It is cloudy but not rainy so it is a good day.
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Post by: rhmahoney on August 07, 2008, 05:04:06 PM
20080807 King Neptune CG near Peggy's Cove NS day 2.

Departed the CG at 11 AM after a lazy morning on the internet. went east past Peggy's Cove and N to Halifax. As I went by I could see dozens of tourists walking the rocks near the lighthouse. Proceeding N along a very twisty road, I met 8 tour busses on their way to Peggy's Cove!

I ended up at the shopping district at the junction of hywys 102 & 103. A huge collection of strip malls and big box stores including the Costco That Brewers were heading for. Had lunch at a restaurant with greek food (mousaka!)

On the way home, found the all important coffee shop at the head of the bay...unbelievably bad!

Chatted with CG neighbors from Ontario and Florida who also experienced the recent heavy unrelenting rains. Prior to that there was 3 weeks of very hot muggy weather in July. The CG owner did not bother with an air conditioner for his trailer and now regrets the decision.
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Post by: Betty Brewer on August 08, 2008, 05:49:50 PM
August 8, 2008  King Neptune Campground  Near Halifax,  Nova Scotia

We left our Costco parking lot “campground”  at  1:00 PM.  We have  4 wonderful new tires to the tune of  nearly $1,000 including the  13% tax charged by Canadian Government.  We followed the picturesque shoreline to  Indian Head  Cove and then to King Neptune  Campground and  found a beautiful  sight  that overlooks a wonderful cove.  It rained a bit and we  planned our next week of tourist activities.   We will tour  Halifax  in the morning.
Betty   
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Post by: Daisy on August 09, 2008, 01:31:39 PM

We are so enjoying your posts Betty, Russ and Jeff and living virtually through your trip.  I was ever so delighted to see some of the Louisbourg fortress as Fred had several ancestors and peripheral cousins of sorts fight in that battle.  Some wounded, some killed, most made it back o.k.  It was a place I had always wanted to go, to get more of the flavor of what went on there. Almost the entire New England male population of the times fought there, or had something to do with ensuring the British took it over.  I think some of Fred's French ancestors may have fought on the other side as well. They were Acadians and later driven from their homes.  His immediate ancestors survived by hiding in the woods and later finding their way to Quebec and were not among those rounded up and sent on the "long journey".  Family lore has the family hiding in the woods with infant twins, hands over their mouths, with the thought that if they started to whimper, they would have been suffocated immediately, rather than give them away.  Hard times for those people and I certainly would not judge them by today's standards.  I did not have to walk in their shoes.....

Anyway, enjoying your trip with you and look forward to the full report when next we see all of you again. 

Daisy
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Post by: Jim Johnson on August 09, 2008, 02:13:33 PM
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Fred's French ancestors

I knew it!!!  There has always been something about Fred that bugs me.  Now I know what it is ;D
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Post by: RLSharp on August 09, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
I knew it!!!  There has always been something about Fred that bugs me.  Now I know what it is ;D

Something other than politics?  ;D  :D

He's still one of my favorite people!

Richard
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Post by: Jim Johnson on August 09, 2008, 03:28:55 PM
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He's still one of my favorite people!

Mine too, Richard.  That is why I stay on his case ;)
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Post by: Jeff on August 09, 2008, 04:01:06 PM
Thanks Daisy, I think I had relatives on both sides of Louisburg as well, some in Maine and my grandmother's family from the PEI area.

Jim & Richard:

Are we all talking about the Sierra Vista branch of the State of Maine Chamber of Commerce Tourism Council? ;D ;D
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Post by: ArdraF on August 09, 2008, 04:06:05 PM
As Daisy commented about walking in others' shoes, I hope our current Canadian visitors willl be able to follow the Evangeline Trail and find the chapel dedicated to those Acadians.  Inside are six of the most moving paintings I've ever seen.  They tell the story of the "long journey" that narrative simply doesn't do justice.  The chapel was built with donations from the descendents of those who were exported around the world.  I did not realize the number of countries to which these people were sent.  It wasn't just Louisiana as most of us grew up thinking.  Instead, think India and other "exotic" countries and that's where you will find Acadians.  Husbands were sent on one ship to one part of the world and the women and children were put on other ships to other parts of the world.  It never ceases to amaze me how people can be so cruel to one another to achieve their own ends.  This is true throughout history and across all ethnic, political, social, and religious lines.

ArdraF
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Post by: RLSharp on August 09, 2008, 05:42:16 PM

Jim & Richard:

Are we all talking about the Sierra Vista branch of the State of Maine Chamber of Commerce Tourism Council? ;D ;D

Jeff,

That's his semi-official designation. Plus some other titles which I won't mention--but Jim knows.  :-X

Richard

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Post by: Ron from Big D on August 09, 2008, 05:58:00 PM
Hey guys.  Give Fred a break.  He hasn't even said a word, and that's something in itself.

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Post by: Betty Brewer on August 09, 2008, 07:55:14 PM
August 9, 2008 Halifax City Tour Halifax, Nova Scotia

Today was sunny and we were off to see sights recommended by tour books and Forum Friends. (thank you Ed) We first looked for a place to park. We’ve forgotten about big cities and the crowds. We did not realize that the Busker Festival is in town that brings in thousands of visitors. We found a perfect spot right in front of the Saturday Farmers market. Russ looked for tomatoes and I looked for sweet corn and Terry looked for a place to stand where tourists would not run him over. I wanted to tour the Alexander Keith Brewery but tours are $17 and started at noon. Now,  even with free samples I did not see the value of this tour. We visited the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic to see nearly 26, 000 marine objects and displays about the nearly 10,000 shipwrecks that are along Nova Scotia waters. Among highlights for me was a 3-D video film on the remains of the Titanic. We saw displays on how the city of Halifax was  the first to recover victims of the Titanic. Several sailors experienced what we could now call PTST after recovering bodies. We would learn more about the city’s response to the tragedy later on the tour we took. I learned about the 1917 Halifax explosion that was the largest man made explosion before the atomic age. A ship collided with a munitions ship heavily laden with chemicals, explosives TNT and on an on and it blew up devastating over ½ of the population of the city. In today’s population standard over 65,000 people would have been killed. The 1400 pound anchor was blown over 2 miles away. We saw the bronze statue of a World War II sailor that honors the thousands of sailors who passed through the port of Halifax.

We boarded a Grayline double- decker bus for a 3 hour city tour. I did not take notes so much of what I heard will become an interesting detail that did not stick but here are some details I do I recall. Halifax is the capitol of Nova Scotia and the second largest city in Canada ( by geographical area) The population is just under 500, 000 so the city is called the “Biggest Little City“. It is also home of the second largest deep water harbor in the world. Do you know who has a harbor larger and deeper? The city is a nice blend of newly renovated buildings with the historical charm of the old renewed. We were glad to be on a bus as the traffic was terrible in part due to the Busker Festival, where street artists perform their magic acts, juggling acts, some music and lots of fun. We toured the Halifax Citadel National Historic Site which is an impressive star shaped fort that is still guarded by the 78th Highlander Regiment. . We hummed to the rhythm of the bagpipes and watched the changing of the guards. A most moving part of the tour was a visit to Fairview Lawn Cemetery to visit the graves of Titanic victims. The graves are arranged in a row to mimic the shape of the bow of a ship. A simple stone has been placed at each grave engraved with the name of the deceased if it was known. Following the movie The Titanic a grave marked, J Dawson has kept with fresh flowers, money for upkeep and even room key with notes. It is thought to be the grave of “Jack” in the movie. The real Jon Dawson was a coal shoveled and would never had had contact with Titanic passengers so it isn’t really Jack but you can’t tell that to true love seekers. The body of only one child was recovered and it buried at a place of honor. The sailors who recovered the body contributed their own money for a very nice stone monument. It was given a place of honor among the victims and it was later learned that this child had been buried at the feet of his mother We toured the port, saw huge cargo containers being loaded on a ship in port. We learned 3 cruise ships will be in town on Tuesday and made note to NOT return to Halifax on that day. We dined at a place Terry selected called Sweet Basil Bistro. However when he saw the menu he decided to go next door for fish and chips. Russ and I had halibut encrusted in sunflower seeds, with raspberry balsamic sauce served with vegetables and potatoes of gourmet quality. A FINE dining experience! We took the long way home and passed by Peggy’s Cove where we will return tomorrow for a deeper exploration.



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Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 09, 2008, 08:01:04 PM
We are so enjoying your posts Betty, Russ and Jeff and living virtually through your trip.  I was ever so delighted to see some of the Louisbourg fortress

Daisy,

I'm happy to take you and Fred along on our touring.  I am having so much fun.  I am learning so much.  Wish I had known of Freds ancestors.  I would have paid more attention to the tour guides, even though it was pouring rain!

Betty
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Post by: Hfx_Cdn on August 10, 2008, 05:47:13 AM
Betty, I forgot to mention that if you do go to Eastern Passage, on the Dartmouth side, there are 2 nice restaurants at the boardwalk, one is mainly fish and chips, and the other Boondocks offers a little fancier menu.
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Post by: Betty Brewer on August 10, 2008, 07:45:21 PM
August 10, 2008 Lunenburg , Nova Scotia

We got off today after we said good byes to friends we made from Florida. We stopped at the lobster pond next door to get the scoop on buying freshly cooked lobster which we will do tomorrow. We headed out to take photos as the weather was cooperative. We drove through Mahone Bay which is very picturesque and filled with artsy tourist shops. We did not stop, a fact that probably saved me some money.

We headed for Lunenburg and found a festival in session. We dined at the restaurant atop the Fisheries Museum. Then we attended the Fisheries Museum which was very well done and if we had opted to stay the entire day could have seen live demonstrations of a variety of sea life tasks from years ago including scallop shucking but no samples are provided. The city of Lunenburg has been designated a UNESCO Heritage site as the many buildings of the early 1700’s are preserved and we enjoyed the colorful variety of Victorian homes. We did not get a chance to ride on the Bluenose II as it was being used as a stage for the festival singers. We listened to music coming from the wharf and we did not even have to buy a ticket. As we circled the city looking for the perfect photo vantage point we stopped along the Harbor and Terry mentioned to a man sitting on his front porch that he had a great view. He came out to speak to us. It turns out his wife is the vice principal of the local high school. She has a retirement from BC already. We enjoyed their stories of how they made a move from Vancouver Island to Nova Scotia some 7,000 miles. This city is so colorful with unique architecture . Nova Scotia is very upscale and much more populated compared to Newfoundland. It reminds me of a Newport Beach of the Atlantic. Sailboats abound in the harbor and the waters are beautiful. It was a very pleasant day. Terry wants to take the day off from touring tomorrow as he is the driver daily and needs a rest. I am just loving this part of our trip. But then I have loved it all.



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Post by: Ken & Sheila on August 10, 2008, 08:25:58 PM
Betty,

I have been reading every day and enjoying your writing. We have never been to NF and our only trip to Nova Scotia and PEI was back in the early 90's when we still have the HR TT.

Sheila had been reading but kept getting in a bad mood every time she read, because she wasn't there! I finally let her catch up today. BG.

As I told Russ via email, tomorrow starts the next chapter in our lives preparing to travel more (much more) and work less (much less). Hopefully all will be set for next summer (maybe even next winter).

ken
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Post by: BernieD on August 11, 2008, 08:51:50 AM
Betty

There is a park on top of a hill in Lunenberg with a city campground next to it. It overlooks the town and harbor and we had some great views up there.
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Post by: Betty Brewer on August 11, 2008, 09:52:59 AM
Hi Bernie,
Yes Russ showed us that campground on our tour of Lunenburg yesterday.  He stayed there 8 years ago.  I was glad we  were not there as it was full of the folks visiing the Festival and the streets are so narrow and hilly,
Betty
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Post by: Betty Brewer on August 11, 2008, 05:27:31 PM
August 11, 2008 King Neptune Campground, Nova Scotia

Today was Terry’s day off.  We slept in (until 10:30 am)  as he had watched the Olympics until 3 am.  ( yeah American Olympic Swimming relay team!) I got  in the mood to do a cleaning of the inside of the motor home.  Pam would be so proud of me.  I oiled all of the wood, washed all of the inside windows, cleaned all portions of the toilet, even  with a toothbrush.  I vacuumed, dusted, cleaned steps shook rugs, are you tired yet?  It was a pleasure to do as I could look outside and see a wonderful view all day long.  And the feeling of satisfaction in doing a  hard days work  speaks for itself. Even touring in wonderful destinations requires cleaning once in a while.

 At noon, we  went to the lobster pond next door, to order our dinner for tonight.  We selected our very own 1.5 pound lobsters.  We were to return at 5 pm to have them already cooked.  At 4:30 I cooked the corn on the cob and set the  picnic table outside Russ’ motor home as he  has the best view.  Armed with loads of paper towels, we devoured our lobster.  Terry purchased  a roller to use to  get the lobster meat out of the legs.  This is something we would not have to do at our favorite  restaurant The Fish Company in Los Alamitos, California.  But for $ 8.75 a pound, cooked, this was a deal.   I would be  intimidated to order a lobster like this in a restaurant  but out here on the picnic table  no one cared how messy we were.  The view was to die for and we think we are so fortunate to have  such a life.  We will order lobster again tomorrow. 
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Post by: Wendy on August 11, 2008, 05:36:38 PM
I like the "before" and "after" pictures.....you sure did damage to those lobsters ! Looks like there's nothing left.

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on August 11, 2008, 05:46:45 PM
Betty, I showed Donna the pictures, and her only comment was that she was surprised how formal the lobster supper was, plates, table cloth, etc.  It should be on the beach, with a tire iron to crack the lobster, and an open bottle of apple jack (alcoholic apple cider) to swill down the lobster.  Of course, to be followed with blueberry grunt, and hot rum toddies.  You are in the land of the rumrunners.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 11, 2008, 05:58:55 PM
Terry took these of our yesterday trip and I think they are worth a look.
 
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on August 11, 2008, 06:02:57 PM
OHHHH!  YUM, YUM, YUM.  I am so envious!  They look scrumptious.  I even enjoyed McDonald's lobster rolls.

Time to put my tongue back in my mouth.  ;)

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2008, 06:19:09 PM
I had a lobster for lunch at Gatheralls today and I'm still drooling!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 11, 2008, 06:47:31 PM
Are you guys eating anything but lobster up there? As a non-lobster-eater, what's the next best thing to eat when (if?) we get that way?

Wendy
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Post by: Tom on August 11, 2008, 06:48:39 PM
Squid?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 11, 2008, 07:02:59 PM
Squid?

Thanks, I'll take the lobster  :)
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Post by: Ron on August 11, 2008, 07:09:21 PM
Squid (calamari), Octopus, and Clams.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2008, 07:10:40 PM
Are you guys eating anything but lobster up there? As a non-lobster-eater, what's the next best thing to eat when (if?) we get that way?

Wendy


Absolutely! If they don't have lobster we have to settle for fresh scallops, mussels, or cod. When we get back to Maine add clams.
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Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2008, 07:12:07 PM
Sue reminded me I forgot salmon and halibut.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 11, 2008, 07:18:41 PM
Are you guys eating anything but lobster up there? As a non-lobster-eater, what's the next best thing to eat when (if?) we get that way?
Wendy,
Until I discovered the relative inexpensive  "cook your own lobster", I would order onion soup and shrimp or cod or chicken which are all options on a menu.  One could also have salads and grilled cheese sandwiches if you want to go vegetarian the whole way. We did not find the  restaurant food in Newfoundland to be worth the money. It was expensive and not to our liking.  So I opted  to cook many meals in the motorhome.  That being said I still managed to gain weight!

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 11, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
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I had a lobster for lunch at Gatheralls today and I'm still drooling!

Hey Jeff, quit complaining! I'm drooling, but didn't get to taste the lobster  :(
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2008, 07:25:26 PM
Terry:

Maybe we should like it twice a day, lunch and dinner. ::)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 11, 2008, 07:35:59 PM
You guys are all making the lobster sound better and better. But I'd probably have to eat crackers in the motorhome to afford the lobster Mike would eat....I can't see him stopping at one ! I'm getting hungry. Guess I'll go dig out a TV dinner to throw in the microwave.

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 11, 2008, 07:37:25 PM
Jeff and Terry - I bet you guys could find a way to fit lobster into breakfast too :)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2008, 07:38:51 PM
Jeff and Terry - I bet you guys could find a way to fit lobster into breakfast too :)


Had a  lobster omelet on PEI. ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on August 12, 2008, 05:37:26 AM
While in Nova Scotia, you will have to try a recent Nova Scotia culinary first.  About 20 years ago a Lebanese immigrant start making "Donairs".  It is like a greek giro, but with a sweeter sauce.  Our favourite is from Roberts in Dartmouth, but many swear by either Toni's or Toulaney's in Halifax.  Make sure you're hungry, take your cholesterol medicine but it is worth it.  They are available at most pizza shops in NB & NS, but they are usualy not the same.

Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Daisy on August 12, 2008, 03:54:59 PM

Betty, there is just no other way to eat lobster, but to make a big mess.  If the butter isn't dripping off your elbows, your doing something wrong....... :D


Daisy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Daisy on August 12, 2008, 04:04:21 PM


Not to be a kill-joy, but just to add a little food for thought for you lobster lovers.  Be careful how MUCH you eat.  Our daughter and family came home on 30 days leave one year (Army) and had missed the lobsters so much, that they feasted on them almost every morning, noon and night.  She became VERY allergic to them and can't get anywhere near one now.  Boy is she sorry now.    :'(

Daisy


Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2008, 05:18:47 PM
Daisy:

I took your advice to heart and had blackened halibut with a vegetable melody. Oh what a diet!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 12, 2008, 06:11:07 PM
August 12, 2008 King Neptune Campground, Peggy’s Cove

We repeated last nights meal.  See yesterday for photos.  Not to  worry Daisy,  after a lobster meal  two days in a row I am tired of lobster. It is rich and the butter,,, oh the butter too much for 2  nights in a row.  But Terry would tell you a different story.

We toured Peggy’s Cove, this morning  along with   many, many tour busses off the cruise ships today.  We saw the  “Peggy Show” and had a few laughs.   We  will return when  the weather is better and the crowds less.  We then drove off to see the SS Atlantic Memorial,  a tribute to 390 lost  passengers on the  lesser known ship in 1912  just  prior to the Titanic loss.  These waters are full of rocks and it is easy to see  that a ship could be lost if it happened to have the misfortune to navigate them by mistake.

We spent  time in Halifax today having the oil changed in the car.  Some things  are not very glamorous even if we are traveling.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 14, 2008, 09:06:55 AM
August 13, 2008 Indian Head,  Still at King Neptune Campground ,  Peggy’s Cove

We returned today to the world famous Peggy’s Cove for photos  because yesterday was filled with tourists  from   over 7,000 passengers visiting from  3  huge cruise ships in Halifax today.  We had patches of blue sky and were thrilled with the sights.  While we have seen many,  many picturesque fishing villages  and lighthouses all over  Newfoundland, the harbor here at Peggy’s Cove looks like it was laid out by an artist for the right composition no matter which angle you chose to look.  I visited gift shops and art galleries.  I fell in love with a  ship model made from driftwood.  It was called Ghost ship but I did not make a purchase.  It is just  fun to see how creative artists can be with found objects.

We then toured the  Memorial to  the Swiss Air Flight that crashed  off shore in 1998, killing all 229 passengers aboard.  The Memorial is done  along two shores that form a triangle pointing to the crash sight  on the horizon.  Little is said of the crash itself  so I did a Google search and learned the details.  It just confirms that the way we will continue to travel is by motor home.  It was a very solemn memorial and makes me grateful again for every day .

Terry and I then drove the route around Aspotogan Peninsula. We found white sandy beaches and people out enjoying the warmth (?) of the day.  We  rested in the afternoon and caught up on the Olympic events collecting on our TIVO. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on August 14, 2008, 05:00:34 PM
Betty and Terry:

      Your 4th image is really excellent.  It captures the heart of that village.  I've seen many, but Peggy's Cove is one of a kind.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marsha/CA on August 15, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Betty,

Your photos are great! 

I had a thought this morning and am wondering if you have figured out what the mileage distance is between how far south you went while in Mexico to the further point north in the maritimes?

Tim and I are getting anxious to get back on the road.  We've done enough projects in the new house to now need (and deserve) a break..... ;D

Marsha~
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 15, 2008, 12:37:37 PM
Thank You Marsha,

98% of the photos I post are taken by Terry.  He has the eye and the good telephoto. 
We calculated the most northern point of our travels to have been Red Bay,  Labrador and the most southern, Tapacula, Mexico for a grand total of 4,648 miles.   It never gets old. 

I miss my house but not the "housework."   I can relate to all the things you need to do in a new home to get it to feel like a nest.  Once ours felt like a nest, we  hit the road. 
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on August 15, 2008, 05:46:59 PM
I'm trying to figure out why the foreground of the second photo is blurry.  Were you shooting from a moving vehicle?  Interesting effect.  Almost looks like a double exposure...
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 15, 2008, 07:10:52 PM
I'm trying to figure out why the foreground of the second photo is blurry.  Were you shooting from a moving vehicle?  Interesting effect.  Almost looks like a double exposure...

Frank,

I asked Terry about the photo and he said "Not  a clue.  I just  frame the photo and shoot."  He does the driving so I know it was not done in a moving vehicle.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on August 15, 2008, 07:26:38 PM
It's time for the 60 Day Expense Report

Fuel includes motorhome & auto.
Meals includes groceries & restaurants.
Lodging is campgrounds.
Miscellaneous is everything else...mostly sightseeing/tour fees & souvenirs, Ferry fees...But not the new tires for the Envoy

Fuel.....................$3548
Meals...................  2515
Lodging................ 1754
Miscellaneous..........3774

Total.................... $11591
$193.18 a day for two people. We Have Not SKIMPED on anything.

Miles Driven

Motorhome................3808
Gmc Envoy................2881

Total........................6689
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 15, 2008, 07:38:28 PM

Meals...................  2515
We Have Not SKIMPED on anything.

Especially food - I think half the meal $ is for lobster  :D

Wendy
Jealous in Cortez
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 15, 2008, 07:59:52 PM
Especially food - I think half the meal $ is for lobster 

Wendy,

Yes we've had lobster quite a few times, (at least Terry has)  but overall groceries are high and so is wine.  To give you an example, The Lindemans wine I like so well and can get at Wal-Mart at "home" for $3.95 a bottle is $12.95 here.  I am now buying boxed wine as it is a bargain at $37.00 a box. (the equivalent of 4 bottles)  It has not slowed my enjoyment of the beverage but has contributed to the overall costs of this adventure.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 15, 2008, 08:49:51 PM
August 15, 2008  Digby,  Nova Scotia   Digby Campground  (902) 245-1985   

I was sad to leave King Neptune Campground with our view of the sea  but it helped when  (within 10 minutes) clouds blew in and made a cloudy day.  We  traveled  inland through  spruce forests today and some were Christmas tree farms and lots of farmlands were present today.  We ended up in Digby.   Rvparkreviews.com website has been helpful in locating neat campgrounds that meet our need for clear cut, clear views of southern skies and easy access.   We checked in the office at our park and got very friendly advice on where to spend our late afternoon.

 Digby is known as the scallop capitol of Canada. We toured The Digby Neck which is a long thin strip of land connecting two  islands  which we  crossed  by  ferry.  As I was reading the tour books to the guys I looked up and  the sky had changed from sunny to a very foggy day.  We giggled and moved on.  We have been so fortunate with our weather that this was a new experience for us.  Terry and I  hiked about a mile out to see Balancing Rock. It was a true  step aerobic experience as the last  ¼ mile was all downhill stairs  getting to the coastline but was all uphill on the way back  up.  This was a deep calorie burn walk.  We saw neat mushrooms in the bogs along the way and the foggy forests were  a bit creepy a but kept me walking fast.   The little coves we saw were indicative of the  big tides we are about to see.  We saw a harbor of sand with boats sitting in the middle of the harbor waiting for water to return . It is every bit as picturesque as Peggy’s Cove minus all the tourists.   We went out to eat and sampled the  scallops.  While they were delicious the meal was not memorable.  Side dishes are not special in most restaurants. The scallops I made at home last night were far better and less expensive but I had to make them and clean up.   

We have a big touring day tomorrow .
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on August 16, 2008, 06:57:33 AM
Betty, while in the Digby/Annapolis Royal area one must see is "Habitation Port Royal".  I have always considered it one of my favourite historic sites.  It is Samuel de Champlain's first permanent settlement, and the second oldest (after St Augustine Florida) in North America.  It was re-created from paintings in the Louvre after it was rediscovered in the early 20th century.  It is only an hour or so view since it i so small, but well worth the time.
If any of you are golfers, the course at the Pines is a nice picturesque course.  Bear River has a lot of craft stores featuring local artists.

Enjoy our fair Province
Ed
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 16, 2008, 07:28:58 PM
August 16, 2008  Annapolis, NS

Today Russ took a day off while Terry and I  toured the area  like maniacs.  We first visited  The Annapolis Royal Tidal Power Project.  It is the one of 3 such  plants in the world and the only one in North America.  It produces electricity from the tides.  The displays inside gave me hope for our future that really smart people will  soon figure out how to produce our energy needs  without depleting all the  fossil fuels.  A 3 meter turbine is being installed in the ocean to use tidal action for electrical energy production.  It won’t  even show above the surface.  We saw how the osprey nests are moved to safety when they  regretfully build their nests atop power poles.

From here  we moved on the visit Port Royal National Historic Site--The Habitation.  It is a  1605  French site recreated in minute detail thanks to the detailed drawings left by Samuel de Champlain.  Costumed  staff  adds to the authenticity  of the hardships endured by early explorers and pioneers  lives compared to my own life where a hardship is 15 amp power.  It was a trading post fortified as were all settlements in the past.  It is on the shores of  the Annapolis River and in a beautiful setting that would have been even  more lovely with sun, but our weather was cool.
  From there  we toured the lovely village of Annapolis Royal.  It boasts of history from 1630 and includes wonderful examples of Victorian architecture .  The village has only  500 residents but today  was filled  with tourists as it was  “Paint the Town Red Day.”  Local artists were out doing their thing and will sell their work at a silent auction later in the day. We enjoyed  dancers of the day  showing off their lovely dress accompanied by   flute music out on the wharf.  We just lucked out to have all this entertainment.  We like the spontaneity of coming up on community events we had no idea  were about to happen.

  A short walk away led us to  Fort Anne, the oldest  National Historic Site in  Canada,  so designated in 1917.  This  historical area was one of the most  fought after territories in North America  between British and French.  Over 3,000 years ago the Mi’Kmaq  claimed  this  site.  Then in 16 and 17 hundreds it was a  center of colonization called Acadian by the French. The 4 panel tapestry that depicts 400 years of history was done by 100  local volunteers  in needle point and is a highlight of the visit.  We learned that the French  Acadians were driven out of the area  because they would not declare and Oath to England.  They had for  years preferred to declared a neutral status in wars and because of that British feared their loyalty and  had them deported.  Very cruel stories followed.  We also viewed a video  that showed why star shaped forts were  developed.
A major  highlight of today’s touring was the Annapolis Royal Historic Gardens where  I had a chance to stop and  smell the roses. We had the bonus that a saxophone player was giving a personal concert to visitors of the grounds today.  Terry’s best photos of the day are of the flowers.  The theme gardens demonstrate gardening techniques of the early Acadians and modern methods. I wish Winnie, my Mother in Law,  could have seen these gardens. 
We were exhausted by the end of the  63 mile touring day.  At 8:25 pm Russ announced the sky.  Wow!  We hope to take a day off tomorrow.



Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 16, 2008, 08:27:45 PM
I like so well and can get at Wal-Mart at "home" for $3.95 a bottle is $12.95 here.  I am now buying boxed wine as it is a bargain at $37.00 a box. (the equivalent of 4 bottles)  It has not slowed my enjoyment of the beverage but has contributed to the overall costs of this adventure.

Betty

$37 a box? Ouch ! I won't complain about the $14.95 I paid today for a box....or whine because they gave me the senior discount without asking if I qualified ! I know you're limited on how much alcohol you can take into Canada, but what about food? Could you cram the coach full of food and not get in trouble? Of course, 60 days worth of food is a lot of food to squeeze into a motorhome !

We're enjoying the travelogue even if Mike is jealous of those lobsters ! Keep it up.

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 17, 2008, 05:47:07 PM
August 17, 2008  Digby, Nova Scotia

It was sunny and beautiful and we took the day off.  We toured a bit about the town but basically  just rested.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 18, 2008, 06:47:09 PM
I know you're limited on how much alcohol you can take into Canada, but what about food? Could you cram the coach full of food and not get in trouble? Of course, 60 days worth of food is a lot of food to squeeze into a motorhome !

Wendy,

I went to the  Canadian Website to see what the rules were for bringing things into Canada.  I was limited on wine but unless I was going to be a commercial transport into Canada not much meat, fish or chicken  was applicable.  There are lots of stores here, although some are  small markets, I did not have any need to bring lots of food into Canada. That being said,  if you are selective on your  brands, you might want to hord.

Betty

Loving Viva Paper towels and can't find them here.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 18, 2008, 08:05:57 PM
August 18, 2008  Scenic Drive to Yarmouth via Cote D’Acadienne

9:30 am was the departure time for our car tour today.  We headed south down Highway 1 to explore the  14 Acadian villages  that  claim to be the largest Francophone enclave in Nova Scotia.  Families re-settled here after being expelled by British in 1755   and the “came back” to their roots.  Now around  250 years later the communities still proudly fly their  flag, red white and blue  with  a yellow star that  signifies  the virgin  Mary.  It was the day of churches. We saw one made of stone,   St. Bernard with a congregation of only 100.  It seems families long ago had families of 10-14 children all of whom attended,   now days families are much smaller and  young people move on to cities like Halifax for job opportunities,.  We saw the  largest wooden church,  Sainte-Anne.  We saw the oldest  church  on a hill, the Sacred Heart Church.  We saw the Saint Alphonse, built by  sailors with incredible murals  inside.  We saw  lovely  seaside villages on a clear day and  had no  wonder that  French families would want to settle this  little piece of the earth.   The flags and banners marking city limits  highlighted their pride.

We had lunch in Cape St Mary thrilled that they had clam chowder on menu.  It tuned out to me more like potato soup with clam flavoring but  it was tasty.    We traveled on to  Yarmouth.  In it’s heyday it was the  shipping capitol of Canada.  We toured old neighborhood where 200 sea captains had their beautiful homes built in several forms of architecture.  Most of them are fully restored and make  for an impressive neighborhood.  We visited the Yarmouth County Museum, housed in a 1893 granite church  and discovered the city’s  enduring relationship with the sea.

A highlight for me was the next door neighbor.  The house was the summer home of the guy who founded the Fuller Brush Company.  His widow  donated it lock stock and barrel as a museum and we had a first hand look at this wonderful business man.  I recall the Fuller brush man coming to our door when I was a kid.  The company is no longer in the Fuller family but at one time, in the 30’s  the company was producing  $3000,000 per day in product.   

We toured Cape Forchu Lighthouse in the fog, despite the fact that most of the day was very sunny.   Russ and I had a nap in the car on the way home while Terry drove us soundly back to Digby.  We move on North in the morning.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 19, 2008, 06:28:36 PM
August 19, 2008  Truro, Nova Scotia,  Elm River Park, 902 662-3162

We left Digby this morning and hit the road.   We traveled through farm lands, forests and were near the coast. At one point we traveled over a bridge where  we could see tides  below.  I saw many river rafters on the tidal bore below..

   We ended up in Elk River Park a Good Sam Campground  Russ visited 8 years ago.  While we were trying to set up,  we experienced  torrential rains and very heavy lightening and thunder.  I wish I could send  sound  to all of you.

 Ka boom ….. I did  not want to  go outside this rig in that  weather so I fixed  enchiladas and had  Russ over for dinner.  During the cooking of  the meal, the  convection oven went  off.  I made a newbie mistake of having too many things on with only 30 amp service. Seems the water heater kicked on and ended my cooking. I phoned the  manager and within  a few minutes had my  power backup to 30 amp with only a slightly bruised ego.  Terry said “How many times do I have to tell you  this? Seems one more time……. 

The enchiladas were just  ok.  We combed the tide charts to see when the best viewing time will happen tomorrow for the Tidal Bore.   Russ will check out the viewing points in the morning. 

It has stopped  raining and we have the Olympics again.   I hate lightening
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 19, 2008, 06:59:36 PM
The rain and thunder could be worse Betty....you could be in Florida !! And I bet the enchiladas were great. You know, you could get Terry to print you up an amp list ala Green Acres of what things use what amps (someday I'm going to get one from Mike). Although, I would think that keeping track of amp usage and the water heater is a blue job?

BTW, back when my parents first started full-timing, someone would have had to go out in the rain to find the manager to get the power back on....no cell phones (also no ATM machines).

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 20, 2008, 06:14:11 PM
August 20, 2008   Truro Nova Scotia  Tidal Bore

We got a late afternoon start on our touring.  Russ had scouted out the town  8 years ago and led us on a city tour of Truro  this afternoon.  Thirty years ago Dutch Elm disease  called for the removal of  diseased elms.  The city  fathers sought to make lemonade out of lemons and  contracted carvers to  make  statues  out of trees that remind visitors of the history  of the community.  We snapped photos  of many but there are  43 of them so we did not see them all. 

We followed the tidal schedule and had a front row seat to watch this  tide come in.  Before today I did not even really know what a Tidal Bore is.  The interpretive center described this  phenomena.  There are only  a few places in the world where one can see this  event.  If I understand it right, the tides happen as a result of the earths gravitational pull.  On the open ocean  one cannot see the tide but in outlets such as this Bay of Fundy, the inflow of water is visible.  The roar of the incoming tide was noticeable.  We estimate about a 2 foot tide.  The video at the  center said  the water that flows into the Bay of Fundy is equivalent to all the water flows of rivers in the entire world.  At some river outlets they even have rafting trips  on the tides.  It was way too wet and cold for us to consider such a thrill. It was enough to watch this wave come into the Salmon River and make it look like the river flows up stream instead of out to the ocean. 

We plotted our next venture onto Prince Edward Island tomorrow via Ferry.   We have spent  3 weeks on Nova Scotia and  enjoyed it all but  Newfoundland is still my favorite. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on August 20, 2008, 06:28:40 PM
You lucked out seeing the Truro tidal bore.  The first couple of times we went there was barely a couple of inches.  Finally saw it better the last time.  We were told it's better at times of a full moon and I think there was one a day or so ago so good timing!

ArdraF

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on August 20, 2008, 06:41:39 PM
August 20, 2008   Truro Nova Scotia  Tidal Bore


Betty

On our first trip to the Maritimes, a Freightliner Chassis Club tour led by Adventure Caravans, we spent some time about 20 miles west of Truro along the Shubecanadie River where we learned about tidal bore white water rafting. We would go out into the river in Zodiacs and waited for the tidal bore to come up river. The tidal bore is the meeting of the incoming tide bashing against the flow of the river downstream. Sitting in the boats we could see the tide about a foot above the river level. The boats would then dash in and out of the bore creating a white water rafting experience. What a blast.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 20, 2008, 07:21:52 PM
along the Shubecanadie River where we learned about tidal bore white water rafting. We would go out into the river in Zodiacs and waited for the tidal bore to come up river. The tidal bore is the meeting of the incoming tide bashing against the flow of the river downstream. Sitting in the boats we could see the tide about a foot above the river level.

Bernie,

When we drove over that River we saw the rafters out in the  water, wet and cold.  I found it enough to enjoy from the comfortable distance of my  rig.  :) I am not into being cold!  But they did look like they were having fun.
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 20, 2008, 07:24:49 PM
If you're ever passing through or near Sterling, Colorado, on I-76, they did the same thing with trees. There are some really neat carvings there and it's a nice stop on an otherwise fairly boring highway.
Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 21, 2008, 07:10:42 PM
August 21, 2008  Prince Edward Island, Southport RV Park  902 569-2287

We said good bye to our 21 days in  Nova Scotia today.  We took the free 75 minute ferry ride today to Prince Edward Island,  known as the Gentle Island. (All roads onto the island are free. It will cost us to leave!)  It is the size of Delaware.  Our initial impressions are that it  is farmland dotted with  spanking white homes with BIG lawns.  I can’t believe how much lawn they mow.   We are at a beautiful RV park overlooking  the harbor in Charlottetown.  If you get what you pay for, this works. This is the most expensive RV park we’ve used on our trip and it is also the most beautiful setting.  I  am watching a beautiful sunset and seeing  elegant blue herons glide to landings. 
It was a gloriously blue beautiful weather day that we come to treasure on a trip where  rain can  cloud a day in  minutes.
Unfortunately on the way we traveled through a construction zone that trashed the motor home and car with  a black tar kind of spatter.  Terry spent  hours cleaning it  up on our arrival. I took the car to a car wash.   I found a place to get my prescription refilled and got a hair cut. It was a very productive day. 

We heard from RV Forum friends Ron and Shirley Maribito and made plans for them to meet us with us in the morning when they make a day trip to the island.   Life continues to be good.


I have  a big  (60) birthday coming up on Saturday and am trying to figure out the most special things to do on “MY big day.”  I have already made purchases to honor my years of  service and had them sent to Pam’s house.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on August 21, 2008, 08:53:44 PM
August 21, 2008  Prince Edward Island, Southport RV Park  902 569-2287

We are at a beautiful RV park overlooking  the harbor in Charlottetown.  If you get what you pay for, this works. This is the most expensive RV park we’ve used on our trip and it is also the most beautiful setting.  I  am watching a beautiful sunset and seeing  elegant blue herons glide to landings. 


Betty

We had stayed there 2 years ago, $31/nite then. They had indicated that the park might be sold and developed as condos. Glad to see that it is still going, I've given it as a recommendation but did not know if it still was open. Isn't that a great view thru the front window of the coach?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on August 21, 2008, 09:58:57 PM

I have  a big  (60) birthday coming up on Saturday and am trying to figure out the most special things to do on “MY big day.”  I have already made purchases to honor my years of  service and had them sent to Pam’s house.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on August 22, 2008, 05:32:04 PM
Bernie said: We had stayed there 2 years ago, $31/nite then. They had indicated that the park might be sold and developed as condos.

Unfortunately this has come to pass. The permits have been issued and the RV park is soon to be history, according to the manager.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 22, 2008, 07:24:53 PM
August 22, 2008  Charlottetown City Tour,

Today was a perfect  summer weather day.  The temperature turned 76 and was the warmest we have seen all summer.  We were treated to a visit by Ron and  Shirley who drove in from New Brunswick for the day.  We  shared the favorite places we had visited and  Terry shared  our photos on the big screen TV.  After a hurried lunch at Wendy’s we were able to make the London Double decker bus tour of the city.  Charlottetown is considered the birthplace of the confederation .  Lots of history here.  We were told that the reason for the red soil here on PEI is tht God created the  world in 6 days and on the 7th day when he looked down on PEI, he blushed.  We also learned that  you can only buy alcohol at State Liquor Stores.  Seems in the 30’s  their congress decided that  alcohol could only be sold with a Doctors prescription.  Well an epidemic followed and congress changed their mind on the  RX deal.   We snapped photos of the  old buildings and some of the newer.  The City is beautiful.  I checked out the Anne of Green Gables Chocolate shop.  After saying our good byes to Ron and  Shirley Terry  found a barber shop as I strolled through the Confederation of the Arts Buildings. 

We plan to drive the Points East Coastal Drive tomorrow.  My goal is the 5 lighthouses, several  beaches and one winery.  Depending on how we feel  after a long day will decide what our evening brings.  We had some good news that we do not have to move spots tomorrow.  We get to keep this glorious view spot.  We only wish we could set up chairs and tripods and enjoy the photo ops, but the  mosquitoes are ferocious and have us sitting safely inside our rigs.

Betty
Enjoying the last day of my 50’s.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 22, 2008, 11:03:01 PM
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All roads onto the island are free.

For clarification Betty, my recollection (confirmed by attached photo) is that we paid a heavy toll to get onto PEI via Confederation Bridge.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: chrpennings on August 23, 2008, 02:57:16 AM
Betty,

Congratulations on your 60 th. Birthday. Wish you a very nice day and i'm sure Terry will take care of the flowers,breakfast lunch and dinner despite it's not a blue job Love your travel log and Terry's pictures.

Chris & Mimi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on August 23, 2008, 05:23:35 AM
August 22, 2008  Charlottetown City Tour,

Today was a perfect  summer weather day.  The temperature turned 76 and was the warmest we have seen all summer.  We were treated to a visit by Ron and  Shirley who drove in from New Brunswick for the day.  We  shared the favorite places we had visited and  Terry shared  our photos on the big screen TV.  After a hurried lunch at Wendy’s we were able to make the London Double decker bus tour of the city.  Charlottetown is considered the birthplace of the confederation .  Lots of history here.  We were told that the reason for the red soil here on PEI is tht God created the  world in 6 days and on the 7th day when he looked down on PEI, he blushed.  We also learned that  you can only buy alcohol at State Liquor Stores.  Seems in the 30’s  their congress decided that  alcohol could only be sold with a Doctors prescription.  Well an epidemic followed and congress changed their mind on the  RX deal.   We snapped photos of the  old buildings and some of the newer.  The City is beautiful.  I checked out the Anne of Green Gables Chocolate shop.  After saying our good byes to Ron and  Shirley Terry  found a barber shop as I strolled through the Confederation of the Arts Buildings. 

We plan to drive the Points East Coastal Drive tomorrow.  My goal is the 5 lighthouses, several  beaches and one winery.  Depending on how we feel  after a long day will decide what our evening brings.  We had some good news that we do not have to move spots tomorrow.  We get to keep this glorious view spot.  We only wish we could set up chairs and tripods and enjoy the photo ops, but the  mosquitoes are ferocious and have us sitting safely inside our rigs.

Betty
Enjoying the last day of my 50’s.


Betty:  Thanks for including photos of us.  When we left you, we drove up to the north coast and west before heading back to NB.  By the way, they let you on the island for nothing, but they charge you steeply to get off.  We paid $41.50 for the pleasure of crossing the bridge with the car.  We enjoyed the visit, although brief.  Have a safe trip and we will see you down the road.


Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 23, 2008, 05:43:26 AM
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... they let you on the island for nothing, but they charge you steeply to get off.  We paid $41.50 for the pleasure of crossing the bridge with the car.

Ron, was that Confederation Bridge? If so, my memory has it all backwards. For some reason, I thought we paid the toll as we got off the island end of the bridge.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 23, 2008, 05:50:38 AM
Stop the presses! I just looked through my PEI pictures and found this one of the toll booths at Confederation Bridge. Sure looks like they're on the "leaving" side of the bridge.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 23, 2008, 06:38:31 AM
For clarification Betty, my recollection (confirmed by attached photo) is that we paid a heavy toll to get onto PEI via Confederation Bridge.

Tom,

We pay to get off the island.  Terry says it would be cheaper just to stay here.  I'll let you know the cost when we make the move off of PEI.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 23, 2008, 06:57:45 AM
Hi Betty,

Yes, I already posted a correction to my earlier message. I was confused  :(
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2008, 07:14:57 AM
Tom:

They do. Isn't that what Ron said?
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on August 23, 2008, 07:20:55 AM
Ron, was that Confederation Bridge? If so, my memory has it all backwards. For some reason, I thought we paid the toll as we got off the island end of the bridge.

Tom

You and Ron are saying the same things. There is only one bridge, the Confederation Bridge, and one ferry. Both are no charge to the island but a double fee when you get off the island.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 23, 2008, 07:25:29 AM
Bernie,

I already corrected myself a couple of messages ago, and even posted a picture to prove I was previously in error. This is a tough crowd!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rankjo on August 23, 2008, 07:33:35 AM
Don't forget that the Islanders have to pay the toll too, every time they want to go shopping or take their produce to the mainland. And don't forget that you will happily pay for a ferry, so just think how much easier the bridge is. It's one of the longest bridges in the world, 13 km, and was a HUGE undertaking, so I don't mind paying when I go to the Island.
Rankjo
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 23, 2008, 07:38:21 AM
I had no problem paying the toll. Steve Pally had warned me in advance. The bridge sure beats a ferry, and it's quite a structure.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 23, 2008, 07:24:11 PM
August 23, 2008  My 60th Birthday  Prince Edward Island, East Coast

A tough day.  A new decade. A new sense of urgency that life is short.  We toured from early morning to late evening.  We drove through  the  pristine countryside of PEI.  Lots of coves, coasts, lighthouses and lunch.  We saw nearly 94 historic sites or beaches today.  We did skip a few of them as I was on overload.  My most favorite part of the day was a visit to the local winery.  I liked their Chardonnay very much. The beaches are red sand.  It  got up to 82 today so it was very  nice beach weather and we saw a few  folks enjoying them.  This island seems much more modern and up to date than others we’ve visited.  There are lots of  pretty churches and historic cemeteries that genealogists could use to trace ancestors, or so the tour book says.    We went to  dinner at a Mexican place as I was trying to  feel like being at home.  The margarita was ok and the fajita’s very good.   We will  go see a dinner show here in Charlottetown to continue on with the birthday celebration.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on August 23, 2008, 11:06:01 PM
Bernie,

I already corrected myself a couple of messages ago, and even posted a picture to prove I was previously in error. This is a tough crowd!

Sorry Tom, missed your correction.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Bill P. on August 24, 2008, 10:48:43 AM
Betty,  This is my first post ever on this forum.  I have really enjoyed sharing in your journey.  We RV'd to PEI and Nova Scotia in July.  Since this is my first post you know it is very important.  Cow's ice cream on PEI was just voted the best in the world.  You must have some before you leave.  We hope to see all of you folks someday.  Bill and Connie, Surf City, NC.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 24, 2008, 09:00:05 PM
August 24, 2008   More on Yesterday

Today’s first entry is a supplement to  my birthday posting yesterday.  It had been such a long day that I lost steam near the end of evening.  Highlights I neglected to mention on our East Coastal Drive of  PEI yesterday are included here.  The mosquitoes  were ferocious.  Locals say that with the 21 straight days of rain they had and now this nice  weather the mosquitoes are having a hey day.  No one is immune.  When visiting a very interesting  site yesterday we were eaten alive.  There was a sign along the road that said Bottle Village Open. We turned down a private driveway to a see a village created by the local home owner behind his home. NO admission, no toll booth, no donation bottle . He was simply sharing his hobby.  He was on his mowing tractor when we arrived.  When he saw us he hollered that we should go in the buildings.  Now the bugs were swarming so I was just going to dash to the car but he got off his tractor and proceeded to give us a personal tour.  I said, “You must be retired to have this much time for such projects.” .  He laughed and said no  he is the local school bus driver.  School starts on September 4.  Inside the building is where you could really see the unique nature of this construction.  I asked where he got his materials and he said he stopped drinking 32 years ago so now his neighbors bring him bottles.  I saw my favorite Lindeman’s in a top row.  I went inside the little church and inside the little school house.  He names each  structure after one of his grandchildren.  You won’t get this kind of detail on a city bus tour.  We  were happy with our viewing and  trotted back to the safety of our car to  spray  with Cutter’s and treat our bites with Benedryl  and Kleenex, first wiping away the blood.  These critters are nasty but did not spoil the day.   We  got extra exercise at the lighthouse to  swipe away mosquitoes too. 

At the Rossignol Winery, we met the vintner who boasted that he has recently completed a goal of  kayaking  around the entire PEI   island.   He did it in sections between a full time work schedule. It took him 3 years to complete his goal.  He looked about my age.  I was equally  impressed with the quality of his Chardonnay.  He gave many restaurant recommendations on the  island. Forgot to tell you too that we had Cow's  ice cream, a double scoop after dinner!  Worlds's best.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 25, 2008, 05:46:38 PM
August 24 & August 25, 2008 Blue Heron Drive, Prince Edward Island, Canada

I’m combining entries for 2 days. Yesterday we did the Blue Heron Drive that cuts across PEI at the middle and covers both south and north coasts. It was much more spectacular scenery and more interesting than the east coast, AND it was a shorter trip. The route was aptly named as we saw many, many blue herons standing proudly in waters along the road. We also saw them take flight. I just love those birds. The island does not have any mountains or even hills of significance but there is no flat area either. The rolling hills today were peppered with beautifully manicured farms. Even the round hay bales seem to be placed “just so.” Fences between farm fields are lovely rows of bushes. We saw numerous churches and because it was Sunday morning we noted filled parking lots so lots of folks here attend church. The beaches are all red sand.  The  fishing villages are  picturesque.

We stopped at the Confederation Bridge and watched a video on it’s construction. I will save my comments on this magnificent, impressive marvel for the day we actually cross it. I may even purchase the video on how it was made.

We stopped at the Anne of Green Gables National Park of Canada and I went in to see the Gables House from the book. Terry stayed in the car. I have never seen so many guys sitting in the car in the parking lot and yet lots of women and children in touring the grounds. Parks Canada guides give very good tours and it is amazing to me how such a fictional story has had an impact on a tiny island. We got home in time to attend a dinner show at the Charlotte Hotel who boasts the longest running dinner theatre. We saw the “Nearly Weds” which was funny, entertaining, musical and a very enjoyable evening. A bonus was the meal. My salmon and Terry’s chicken were among the best meals out we’ve had on our trip. We sat at a very international table. One of the guests was a visiting actor from the sister show held in Summerside. Another couple was from Ontario near Toronto. A mother and son joined us. They live in Kensington a few miles away but she is from Trinidad and he was  born raised in PEI and now lives in Dublin Ireland working for Microsoft. He could not see the hype on Anne of Green Gables. Said he never even read the book. What an industry for a small province.

Today our last tourist event in Charlottetown was a visit to Founders Hall to view a wonderfully done interactive audio visual story that brought Canadian history to life. History can be dull but the headphones we wore and the games we played in the time machine as it went back to 1860’s made learning about how the Confederation unfolded was fun and informative. I learned a chief reason for the joining of colonies was their fear that America would attack. Another motivation was to join the country with a railroad. Canadian history is very interesting and I enjoyed following their development with the things that were happening in USA at the time.

We visited a Sandlot of sand sculptures done each year.  What a skill.

We move on in the morning rain or shine.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marc L on August 25, 2008, 07:28:48 PM
It's not the making of the Confederation Bridge, but here's a video from Discovery.ca on how high tech the bridge is:
Confederation Bridge clip from Daily Planet on Discovery.ca (http://broadband.discoverychannel.ca/?vid=233)

I did not see the making of, but I did cross the ferry a few times while they were building it.  Some amazing cranes they had, from a Scandinavian country I believe, but don't remember which.  Using GPS they would position the piers and tables.  I missed the opening by a week, went by ferry the week before the opening.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 25, 2008, 08:17:58 PM
Marc, the video I saw was an ad, and nothing else  ???
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: RVOA on August 26, 2008, 12:19:21 AM
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Terry stayed in the car. I have never seen so many guys sitting in the car in the parking lot

Wish I had followed Terry's plan too  ;D

Are there many people around Betty? - we were there around Sept 10th (06) and the whole island was very quiet.

Paul
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marc L on August 26, 2008, 05:17:18 AM
Marc, the video I saw was an ad, and nothing else  ???

Hi Tom,

I just tried it again.  I do get an ad, but the video follows.  I wonder if the content is blocked outside Canada, but if that was the case, you could not get on the site at all.  Like when I try to go on the website for the Daily Show, I can't.  I have to go on the website for the Canadian network that airs the show in Canada.  Since Discovery Channel have different content in US and Canada, maybe that's the same.

Marc...
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: carson on August 26, 2008, 05:52:32 AM
Tom, I can view the video; click on "view without Silverlight".
I actually saw the whole thing on the Disc. channel a while ago - fascinating.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 26, 2008, 06:45:31 AM
Wish I had followed Terry's plan too  Are there many people around Betty? - we were there around Sept 10th (06) and the whole island was very quiet.

Paul,

There are still a fair amount of tourists here. The RV Park is nearly filled on weekends.  A huge Holland America Cruise ship was just across the harbor in our view this morning. Photo to follow.  We are leaving Charlottetown this morning.  Just in time to avoid the cruise  ship passengers.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 26, 2008, 09:04:37 PM
August 26, 2008 Borden-Carlton near North Cape Drive on PEI Sun and Shade Campground (902) 855-3492

I've included photos from the Sandlot yesterday and Terry in the  Founder's Hall meeting a  famous person.

After some mighty loud thunder last night and a steady rain, we awoke to fair skies and huge Cruise ship in the harbor across from us. It was  time to get out of Dodge and avoid the crowds. We moved grand total of 45 miles to a spot near the Confederation Bridge. It will be our base camp as we complete our tour of PEI. I wandered, by myself,  back to all of the gift stores at Gateway and visited the Welcome Center again to view the museum and video describing sights to see  on the island. I bought chocolate from Anne of Green Gables store and bought Raspberry Cordials for Terry. I took shots of that massive bridge and bought the DVD of it’s construction. If you get to our home you will have the obligatory viewing.

I returned to the small village of Victoria, a town that we passed over due to time yesterday. I visited the cutesy shops and then wandered out on their pier. I saw lots of tourists taking shots so I nosed my way in and looked over the side of the wharf to see a boat load of big shells. I wondered what they were and was told they were clams. I’ve never seen such big clams. Two guys in a little boat were unloading the clams which were held in big plastic tubs, onto their trailer. In another larger boat I saw tubs of crabs being hoisted out of that boat onto the wharf to a waiting truck. Each tub was being weighed as it entered the boat. Now this is what I call “Catch of the day.”

The topping of this day was the long awaited trip to see “The Storm” an authentic Celtic production put on by the College of Piping in Summerside. This was a very professional production that exceeded my expectations with bagpipes, drummers, one singer and island step dancing along with a harp. Bagpipes are loud when you purchase front row seats. Russ purchased 5 new CD’s.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 26, 2008, 09:15:45 PM
More photos of  the Production we we enjoyed tonight.   Russ got some great shots too  so I hope he  wiill post.  He thanked me for sitting next to him in this covered but outdoor theatre  as I attracted the mosquitos.

Jim Dick would have loved this production!

BB
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 27, 2008, 12:33:47 AM
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....I can view the video; click on "view without Silverlight".

That did it Carson, thanks. Interesting video.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 28, 2008, 09:52:21 AM
August 27, 2008 North Cape Coastal Drive, PEI

We set off at 9 am for this long 300 km drive of the north coast of PEI. Terry used ‘Hilda’, our GPS to find a McDonalds to fortify us with egg Mac Muffins. We followed the route and the first mentionable stop was the “Bottle House.” This was a hobby of a regular kind of guy before recycling. He found his bottles in the dump. His set up is a display of bottles, gardens and fun. The buildings have been redone and are still wonderful. His gardens are beautiful as is his coastal view. We traveled up through Acadian territory evidenced by their flags flying and the French language we heard while inside magnificent Catholic Church in Mont Carmel. The coastal drive was spectacular with red cliffs, red sand beaches and white waves crashing on red water gave quite a contract to the colors I am used to seeing at the beach. The scenery was open fields and we could see lots of neatly planted green rows of potatoes. In O’Leary we spent some time in the Potato Museum. I never knew there were so many types of potatoes. We have been seeing signs along the road for Irish Cobbler. I thought it was a PEI kind of dessert but I learned it is a variety of potato that mature early. It is not sold commercially as it does not store well. PEI produces lots of potatoes. We learned some of the big Processing plants we see along the road make potato chips. The don’t give tours nor samples. Darn….

Following the suggestions by Jeff and Sue we stopped at the Seaweed Café for lunch. I had mussels and seaweed pie. OK Jim Johnson, I know you told us about pickle pie and pinto bean pie. Now I can tell you about Sea weed pie. It was a greenish flavored cream on top of what appeared to be angel food cake. It was dolloped with whipped cream and drizzled in fresh raspberry sauce. Yum. I did not taste any seaweed. Seems anything we have with a thickened consistency may well have seaweed extract in it. We watched a video on the harvesting of seaweed, kelp beds done here in PEI for years. Horses used to drag rakes around the ocean floor during storms to harvest the washed up sea weed. I sampled the hand lotion thickened with the seaweed. It was very nice. I leaned ice cream also has it. So there you go.

We drove on up the coast to the North Cape. This beautiful day awarded us with a tremendous vista of the seas at the end point. The lighthouse was not memorable but the water was cold as I just had to dip my foot in water from the Gulf of Saint Lawrence and Northumberland Strait as it converges on the longest rock reef in North America. There is an interesting Interpretive Center on the Wind mill farm there. They advertise having the largest wind mill in North America, curious so does the one in Quebec claim to be the largest in North America. Does not matter to me. Terry got his first souvenir of the trip, a very nice t shirt. On our way back down the coast we came to the city of Alberton with numerous murals painted all over the city. It sure dresses up a city to see what their history looks like painted on the sides of buildings. We finally hit home at 7:30 pm. Whew what a day. I vote NOT to have such long driving days again. We will stay another night here near the Confederation Bridge and hit the road in the morning for New Brunswick. We hope to connect some time with Forum friends Ed and Donna during our 4 day stay in Shediac.

 

 

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Johnson on August 28, 2008, 01:53:42 PM
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Now I can tell you about Sea weed pie

Did Terry just turn his head while you ate it or did he go outside ??? ???
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 28, 2008, 03:10:18 PM
Did Terry just turn his head while you ate it or did he go outside ??? ???

ROFL  I'll let him tell you.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 28, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
August 28, 2008 Touring Summerside, PEI

Today was one of those touring days where we had only a couple of destinations but found more treasures. I wanted to return to the city of Summerside, the second largest in PEI to visit a couple of museums and take photos of the murals we had seen while passing through yesterday. While searching for a fox mural we stumbled on the International Fox Museum. We learned that PEI’s economy was a big benefactor of the fox breeding industry in the early 1900’s. The rich and famous worldwide wanted the rare silver fox. The middle class wore the red fox clothing. The foxes were bred in farms and netted up to $7,300.00 a pelt. Not bad money for the early 1900’s. The demand for pelts diminished by the late 40’s and the price dropped so very little is now done with the industry but we did see the huge homes built with profits. At one time the PEI economy was helped tremendously by this trade. PETA would have had a fit.

The guide was so knowledgeable that when he recommended that we tour the Wyatt house, we took him up on the recommendation. We toured 3 historic properties that were donated to the city by a Cecilia Wyatt, a wealthy woman who had no children. She lived to be 102 and her legacy of the rich and famous lifestyle lives on in her home and furnishings. Touring the inside of the homes we usually just drive by was a real treat. The history in the towns comes alive when given a personal tour. We snapped murals of the city too.

On the way back to the campground I asked Terry to stop at a Woodworking artist studio. There I found wonderful quality wood works and purchased a bird’s eye maple lazy Susan . The evening was topped off when I learned that A Confederation Trail music event was being held in our campground and was free to campers. Russ and Terry did not care to attend this bluegrass event so I went on my own. Not bad when you can walk to the show.

We will leave PEI in the morning and have wonderful memories of a beautiful  gentle island.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: KodiakRV on August 28, 2008, 08:48:59 PM
... PEI produces lots of potatoes. We learned some of the big Processing plants we see along the road make potato chips. The don’t give tours nor samples. Darn….

Have you tried the ketchup-flavored potato chips?  They seem to be very popular in Canada.  Sales must be similar to barbeque-flavored potato chips in the US.  We were at a market in PEI and they had a dozen different kinds of ketchup-flavored potato chips.   :-\
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on August 28, 2008, 09:38:46 PM
Betty:  Hope the price of getting off the island doesn't upset you too much.

Shirley and I are in Sault Ste. Marie and departing for hiway 2 and west to Montana before moving back into Canada.   We had kind of a scare yesterday when crossing back into the US.  The customs agent asked for our vehicle registrations, for which I couldn't put my hands on immediately.  He said then, I'll just get the plate information off the vehicles.  Next he came back and said "How come the coach is registered in Montana and you live in Texas?"  I immediately said "Because I purchased the coach in Montana."  He then said " Makes sense" and then waved us through.  Actually, we purchased it in Texas and only registered it in Montana, but we got away without a big hassle.  I would think that we should not have the same problem in Montana, because probably everyone knows about the tax free registrations there.

Oh, also, we lost a tire on the road yesterday and it took 4 hours to get up and running again.  They had delays on the credit card approval and it was an hour to our location.  FMCA Roadside Assistance did a good job.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 29, 2008, 07:00:39 AM
Have you tried the ketchup-flavored potato chips?  They seem to be very popular in Canada.  Sales must be similar to barbeque-flavored potato chips in the US.  We were at a market in PEI and they had a dozen different kinds of ketchup-flavored potato chips.   
Kodiak,
I've seen those multi flavored chips and not tried them.  I did sample lobster flavored chips at the Potato Museum but I did not get a lobster flavor at all.  I must try to avoid chips as one leads to another too another and you get the story.

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 29, 2008, 07:04:28 AM
Betty:  Hope the price of getting off the island doesn't upset you too much.

Ron,

Once you've taken the long ferry to Newfoundland, the price of any other toll is not going to bother us.

Which tire did you lose?  Toad or MH ?  How old was it?

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on August 29, 2008, 06:22:42 PM
Betty:  It was the outboard drive tire on the passenger side.  It is probably 4 years old, but it had a sidewall break that had been there for around 8,000 miles.  It was only a matter of time.  I don't remember when the damage occurred.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on August 29, 2008, 06:48:19 PM
Ron,

Once you've taken the long ferry to Newfoundland, the price of any other toll is not going to bother us.

Betty

And you saved $100.00 by going the last day of June. 8)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 29, 2008, 08:43:35 PM
August 29, 2008   Shediac, New Brunswick  Wishing Star Campground  Etoile  ( 506) 532-6786 Passport Park

We crossed the Confederation Bridge this morning from PEI to  New Brunswick. The bridge is  13 Kilometers or about  9 miles long.  Due to the very cloudy day, we could not see much but I noted how high over the  water we were for so long.  It is a 2 lane highway with no passing allowed.  The toll for  us  with our tow car was $55.00.  This was less than the Ferry so we saved money by crossing the bridge rather than returning by ferry whose fare would have been over $100.  It was exciting to  cross such a modern miracle of  engineering.  When I review the DVD I purchased on it’s  construction I will report back to  you with the details of it‘s construction.  If you happen to come to  our home in Yuma I’m sure you will get a chance to see it.

The highlight of the day was our visit to see our  newly met Forum friends, Ed and Donna who live outside of Halifax, NS  but have a summer cottage in Shediac, NB.  Ed has been following our trip through Atlantic Canada and graciously invited us to his cottage for supper tonight.  His wife Donna  attended a funeral  today and did  personal  family errands outside of town today but still managed to have supper for 3  strangers from this RV Forum tonight.  Their gracious offer for dinner to  weary travelers was welcomed and appreciated.  So often on trips we drive by homes but never really see inside  how folks live.  Their remodeling efforts on a long time family cottage are impressive  but even more so their hospitality!  We traded stories on  our history of getting into the RV life style and  some of the history of our family “issues.” related to old age.  I guess we should all just live each day.  My only sorrow of the evening is that despite bringing our camera, no one snapped any photos.  Too bad.  Ed is quite  nimble in the kitchen. We will take  advice given tonight of activities in the area and continue touring in the morning as the weather is forecasted to clear.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on August 30, 2008, 06:48:05 AM
Although we had never physically met, we have had months of being RV Forum friends.  The Maritime way is to offer CFA's (come from away's) the hospitality of your house, it's just what's done here.  I must say it was an enjoyable evening hearing about the many RV trip you've taken over the years, it was enjoyable to be able to speak of other Forum friends, several of whom we've met other only met on line.  Our paths will cross again, unfortunately not this year as you will have left Florida by the time we get there.  I do hope that you can make the Fall Rally, and that Terry enjoys his rally this fall.  Russ you're the photographer, so I guess you will get blamed for not remembering to pull out a camera (someone has to wear the blame). 
     Enjoy the rest of your trip, keep up the trip reports as they are delightful.

Ed & Donna
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Dick on August 30, 2008, 07:41:03 AM
Hi Betty,

If you like Blue Herons then you'll really enjoy Florida. We have all you want to see. There's usually one walking around the pond behind our screen room. Lots of other large birds as well. Attached is one I got at our pond.

I have a sign from the College of Piping that Terry & Liliane gave me. It's hanging on our shed. Says "Parking for Pipers Only!".

Jim
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on August 30, 2008, 07:44:48 PM
August 30, 2008 Hopewell Rocks, New Brunswick

Still hearty tourists we drove off this morning to see some highs and some lows at Hopewell Rocks. We arrived to purchase tickets (good for today and tomorrow) in a swarm of treacherous salt water marsh mosquitoes. Swatting and spitting I made a quick trip back to the car to get the repellant. Terry and I walked the twenty minute path through thick trees to the viewing platforms. We could see the shore below filled with water and hoo doo type structures protruding up from the water. We snapped photos and left with the plan to return at 3 pm to walk on the ocean floor at low tide.

In the mean time we drove the Bay of Fundy Coastal Drive and visited Cape Enrage. This little lighthouse was not being maintained any longer as it is now automated and was scheduled to be demolished. A group of local high school students from Moncton decided to take it on as a salvage project. It is very nicely done and affords tremendous views up and down the coast. I did think of Sue Cousins when I saw that I would have the opportunity to ride on the zip line but I elected to go to the former lighthouse keepers residence which is now a lovely restaurant and have homemade soup for lunch. Diet will start 9/1. We enjoyed the muddy rivers as we could see tides retreating. We also saw numerous blue herons again today. We explored the tiny town of Alma a bit and took photos of the boats in the water and could see the water lines from a higher tide.

When we returned to Hopewell Rocks at 3pm we took the shuttle bus ride to the rocks as we’d had enough exercise for one day. It was clear now how the name flower pots became a nick name for these rocks. The formations have a small forest of trees on top. This time the water was gone and we were able to walk over the grounds, rock and mud. Little kids were loving the muddy bottom and had a blast. I was careful as I traversed over the rocks with my camera in hand. The erosion over time makes some of the places too dangerous to go and have been roped off. We are also give VERY clear instructions on the time we must be back up the steps to avoid a quickly returning tide. The rides rise and fall the equivalent of a 4 story building. What a thrill.

Back in Shediac we took advantage of the sunny afternoon to photograph the large lobster sculpture at the entrance to town. Shediac is known as the lobster capital of the world and the figure says it all.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on August 30, 2008, 08:25:32 PM
Doesn't look like that big a deal until you see the pictures with the people....wow, that's some tide ! Good job showing just what a tide that is !!

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron from Big D on August 31, 2008, 08:14:39 PM
Doesn't look like that big a deal until you see the pictures with the people....wow, that's some tide ! Good job showing just what a tide that is !!

Wendy

Wendy, you still didn't see it all.  Terry's shot of the low tide is only near halfway.  At low tide, the water is out another 100 yards from the flower pot rocks.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 31, 2008, 09:14:14 PM
We've been to Fundy, but the tide pales in comparison with the 40 feet tide at our home. See here (http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=6330.msg55520#msg55520).
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Dick on August 31, 2008, 09:17:47 PM
We've been to Fundy, but the tide pales in comparison with the 40 feet tide at our home. See here (http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=6330.msg55520#msg55520).

Tom,

Nature is awesome!!!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 31, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
It sure is Jim, and we found Fundy to be awesome, just not as awesome as ....  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Dick on August 31, 2008, 09:25:13 PM
Tom,

We've never seen either one but hope, someday, to get to Fundy. It's not that far from where we used to live!!! ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on August 31, 2008, 09:58:48 PM
Tom

>The Guinness Book of World Records states the world's highest tides to be in the Minas Basin, NS, with the maximum tidal range recorded at 16.8 meters (54.6 ft).  Parrsboro, the largest Seaport on the Minas Basin, affords the best view of this tidal phenomenon. At this point the tide floods and ebbs over 3.2 kilometers (2 mi.) of tidal flat from the low watery mark to the head of the harbor. Each phase of the cycle takes approximately 5hrs\40 min. which results in each succeeding high or low water mark range an average 14m. (45.5 ft.) while the harbor heights are about 7.5 m (24 ft.). For more details see the websites http://museum.gov.ns.ca/fossils/protect/tides.htm and http://www.valleyweb.com/fundytides/.

Anchorage Alaska boasts the world's second highest tides: varying over 40 feet, low to high tide! Bore tide (one of the three highest in the world, and a weird phenomenon: capillary action on a gigantic scale!) occurs 2 hours 15 minutes after low tide; best viewed between Mileposts 101 and 90 Seward Highway (26 to 37 miles from Anchorage).  For details see the website http://www.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/about2.html <<
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on August 31, 2008, 11:53:01 PM
Amazing what one can find on Google.

"Severn Estuary .... The estuary has one of the highest tidal ranges in the world — about 15 metres (49 ft).[1][2] During the highest tides, the rising water is funnelled up the estuary into the Severn bore, a self-reinforcing solitary wave that travels rapidly upstream against the river current.[3]. The estuary's funnel shape, its tidal range, and the underlying geology of rock, gravel and sand, produce strong tidal streams and high turbidity, giving the water a notably brown coloration."

Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Estuary) for more.

Also ...

"The Severn Bore is one of Britain's few truly spectacular natural phenomena. It is a large surge wave that can be seen in the estuary of the River Severn, where the tidal range is the 2nd highest in the world, being as much as 50 feet (approx. 15.4m)."

Click here (http://www.severn-bore.co.uk/) for more.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Luca1369 on September 01, 2008, 06:57:41 AM
Tom,

    There is a similar occurence in New Brunswick, Canada, on the St. John River. 

     The St. John River flows into the Bay of Fundy at the town of St. John in New Brunswick, Canada, and is known for its Reversing Falls Rapids which occur when the river reverses its flow twice a day.  The Reversing Falls Rapids are caused by the extremely high tides of the Bay of Fundy and must be seen on the flood tide. 

     Click here (http://www.new-brunswick.net/Saint_John/reversingfalls/reversing.html) for more information.  The photos in this link do not due the phenomenon justice.

Steve
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 01, 2008, 08:08:21 AM
Thanks Steve. Bottom line is that you cannot underestimate the power of nature
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 01, 2008, 08:46:26 AM
    There is a similar occurence in New Brunswick, Canada, on the St. John River. 

     The St. John River flows into the Bay of Fundy at the town of St. John in New Brunswick, Canada, and is known for its Reversing Falls Rapids which occur when the river reverses its flow twice a day.  The Reversing Falls Rapids are caused by the extremely high tides of the Bay of Fundy and must be seen on the flood tide.     

Steve,

Oh goody goody.  In a few days we get to go on a boat trip on that river and experience the tides up close and personal .  Will let you know how it turns out.
Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 01, 2008, 10:47:12 AM
Have a safe boat trip Betty. When we used to cross the tidal bore on the Severn Estuary by ferry (before they built the first bridge), I used to be really scared. OTOH I was only a kid at that time. But, having crossed the two bridges numerous times and looked down, I've told myself that I wouldn't want to skipper a boat in that estuary when the tide is running.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on September 01, 2008, 11:03:13 AM
I think in sympathy with the Cajuns in Louisiana the Terry, Betty aJnd Russ brought us torrential rain today.  I know they're talking about going on the jet boat in Saint John (a herringchoker, ie New Brunswicker, never abbreviates Saint John), but since they're parked right on Shediac Bay at the mouth of  the Scouduc River, I'm concerned they might need a boat to rescue them.  Donna and I are on higher ground, at least 3 or 4 feet higher, so we're ok.  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Luca1369 on September 01, 2008, 11:22:09 AM
Well Ed, you can tell I'm not a herringchoker, I've been accused of being a lot of things in my life, but never a herringchoker.

I have a friend who used to sail to the NE sections of Canada every summer, then return to the Bahamas the following winter, bringing us many tins of tasty kippers.

Steve
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Post by: ArdraF on September 01, 2008, 02:49:19 PM
Terry, Tom, and Steve,

I couldn't help but chuckle while reading your respective discourses on the tides.  Jerry and I have been to many gold-bearing regions of the world and it's amazing how many of them claim to have the biggest producing gold field in the world.  Guess the same is true with tides....  I guess it's just human nature that everyone wants to be "numero uno."

Nevertheless, aren't the flower pots just the neatest place!  Also Betty reminded me of Alma.  We had a nice dinner there right next to the fishing boat anchorage channel and it was interesting to see the tide come in and refloat the boats.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 01, 2008, 07:12:44 PM
Ardra,

I believe you misunderstood my messages &/or their intent.

Having grown up in an area where the tides were the highest in Europe, the Bay of Fundy didn't give me a "wow, look at those high tides" reaction. Had I been raised on the CA Delta, where the typical tidal variation is 4 feet, I'd have had a completely different reaction.

When we were kids, we'd go fishing at low tide on a pier and look way down at the water. Before we were done for the day, the water would be lapping over the top of the pier. Similarly, if we went fishing at the beach, we'd cast into the surf at low tide, and would spend the next several hours continually letting out line and walking up the beach.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Luca1369 on September 01, 2008, 07:46:18 PM
Ardra,
I believe you misunderstood my messages &/or their intent.

   I have to agree.  I was only relating the information about the SAINT John River Reversing Falls for two reasons.  First, it was related to Tom's post about a tidal bore in England, and second, it pertains to the theme of this thread, the Canadian Maritimes.  I have no idea who is number one in tides, and don't really care. 

Steve
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 01, 2008, 07:53:52 PM
August 31 and September 1, 2008  Shediac, New Brunswick 

You have not heard from me for the past couple of days because we have not done anything special.  It has been a nice change of pace to  just hunker down in the motor home and wait out this storm.  We have had a steady rain,  day and night,  with gusting winds.  I have a lovely water view and noted white caps and water flowing over the rocks. As  I have been watching  Hurricane Gustov on TV, I  have not felt sorry for myself  with this weather event.  We have extended here for  a couple of more days hoping for a clear day to see a few more local sights. Many of the tourist places claim to be the biggest, best, oldest, highest, first and a slew of other superlatives.  They can all fool us as it is all new to us and still enjoyable.

The tourist scene is  on the decline.  Several of the shops here in this beach town are closed up.  When we phoned  The Garrison Historic District we learned they  are no longer having the Changing of the Guard Ceremony as most of them are students who have  had to return to  school.   The good news is that Passport  America rates are now good which give us 50% off at membership  parks.   

I took the opportunity today to renew my commitment to Weight Watchers.  I got out all of my books and will be seriously counting points until I am back in goal range.  The fun I’ve had sampling large portions of local cuisine has now come home to haunt me.  I’ve even gotten out the  rubber shoes I  bought while in wet Alaska and may attempt  to walk  in the rain for exercise but I kinda doubt it.   
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 02, 2008, 03:24:40 PM
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I believe you misunderstood my messages &/or their intent.

Tom and Steve, not really.  In fact, I agree with you both.  Immediately after returning from an Alaska-Canada trip, where we saw lots of gigantic glaciers, we ended up in New Zealand where folks are really proud of their Franz Josef glacier.  It's nice, but it didn't impress us all that much because of our recent experience in Alaska.  I agree that it's in the eye of the beholder and that person's frame of reference.  Just reading all the messages clumped together is what amused me because it reminded me of all those gold mining claims.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Luca1369 on September 02, 2008, 03:27:33 PM
Yes, when I looked at the posts from a different viewpoint I could misconstrue it as "Who has the biggest tides?"

Steve
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 02, 2008, 08:01:00 PM
September 2,  2008   Shediac, New Brunswick   Beautiful Day

It is amazing how the weather can be so dramatically different within a day.  Today was  sunny and beautiful.  The mosquitoes all seemed have drowned in the rain and wind of the past couple of days.  I’m rested up as a tourist and we set out for big adventures today that included Costco.

Our first stop was the Magnetic Hill.  Now this is admittedly a complete  tourist thing, but we  really enjoyed the  illusions created.  We drove into the Theme park and told the guy at the kiosk, “We don’t want to go to the water park, nor to the zoo nor to the restaurants nor to the Winery, we just want to drive to the hill.”  No problem he says and $5.00 later we can take as many trips up and down that we like.  There was a large tour bus in front of us and we watched him .  We  parked at the designated spot, put the car into neutral and then we rolled  backwards up the hill.  I’m not kidding.  It felt as if we were coasting up hill.  My brain is  easily tricked so I decided to walk the drive.  Sure enough my legs we tired at the end as it was an uphill trek but it sure didn’t look like it.   What a fun illusion.  We made several trips and Terry took photos of the GPS to  see just how steep the hill.

From there the tour books lured us to the  small quaint Village of Sackville.  It claims to be the Cultural Capital of Canada.  I checked out a few art galleries  and museums that were closed today.  Tourist season is definitely coming to an end.  The local University is in session and it was fun to see the students all over the  beautiful  campus of stone buildings.  I noted the Elementary and Middle schools also in session.  I love being retired.

Back in Shediac we took advantage of the  Pont de Chene Wharf and viewed the calm blue  waters today along with the lovely sand beaches that boast the warmest waters north of Virginia.  Too bad we were not here earlier in the summer to enjoy the warm days too. 

The highlight of our evening was a surprise visit from Ed and Donna who came to wish us farewell as we head south  in the morning.  We told them all about our last few days and they gave us hints on things to do and see for our next destinations.  It was an official rally as we did take photos this time!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on September 02, 2008, 08:07:59 PM
Magnetic Hill sounds like fun. I'm a sucker for touristy (especially "unusual" touristy things). But I need to know, in the picture on the road, is the car headed downhill or uphill?

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on September 02, 2008, 09:33:36 PM
 Wendy

The car started at the white post & coasted UPHILL in reverse at quite a good rate.....So in that picture the front of the car is heading uphill.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on September 02, 2008, 09:38:59 PM
There is also a gravity hill near the State capital in SLC.  Another place that will give the impression of going down hill when you are actually going up hill or visa versa is driving through the Wind River Canyon in Wyoming.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Godward on September 02, 2008, 11:34:48 PM
On our way home from Portland/Olympia, Pat complained that the exhause brake was on.  I checked the indicator, the RPMs, torque on the VMS and anything else I could check.  Then I looked out the window and realized she was going up hill.  I don't think she ever believed me.  This was in the pass east of Seattle on I-90.  It will fool you as the road is up but the surrounding land gives the impression that you are going down.  VBG
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Luca1369 on September 03, 2008, 06:47:01 AM
There's a spot like that on a small, mountain road on the northwestern shore of the island of Trinidad, as well as one here in Georgia, just north of Atlanta, in a small town called Cumming.

The gravity road in Cumming begins where two large, old oak trees spread their limbs over the narrow, two-lane country road.  To experience it you must drive your car to the bottom of the "hill" and place it in neutral with the engine off and it mysteriously rolls back "uphill" for a short distance.  Locals tell you that the car is being pushed backwards by the ghosts of slaves that were once hung from the oak trees at the top of the hill.  People have reported experiencing this at night and then driving to a well-lit gas station to notice the appearance of "hand prints" on their hoods.  I've tried this "gravity road" several times.  You actually do roll back "uphill" a bit, but I've never had hand prints appear on my hood.

Steve
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jim Dick on September 03, 2008, 06:54:56 AM
There is also a gravity hill near the State capital in SLC.  Another place that will give the impression of going down hill when you are actually going up hill or visa versa is driving through the Wind River Canyon in Wyoming.

Come on Ron, I know we were going downhill in Wind River Canyon!!! ;D The one that really got me was I70 east heading for Moab. At one point I was sure I would need the exhaust brake so I turned it on while in cruise. Nothing happened. I looked at the small stream next to the highway and it was flowing in our direction. I finally checked the altitude on the GPS. We were actually going uphill!!! Thankfully, Terry Brewer confirmed my feelings as it happened to him as well. :)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on September 03, 2008, 09:03:29 AM
Come on Ron, I know we were going downhill in Wind River Canyon!!! ;D

I have had to point out to more than one which side of the dam the resivoir is on at the bottom of Wind River canyon.  For a lot of folks they feel they are going down hill when traveling South through the canyon. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 03, 2008, 04:32:04 PM
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I love being retired

Betty, you know you're having a heck of a lot more fun than they are!  ;)

Jerry and I simultarneously said, "Leave it to Terry to take a photo of the GPS."  Now why didn't we think of that when we were there?  Yep, tourists R us!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on September 03, 2008, 05:25:26 PM
Just look at your Turbo Boost and you'll know it's up hill.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 03, 2008, 07:38:20 PM
September 3,  2008   Saint John, New Brunswick,  Rockwood Campground

We moved  100 miles south today  to Saint John and ended up in a wonderful campground in that it has huge spaces with clear views of southern skies.  We trotted off to lunch at the restaurant overlooking the Reversing Falls.  The Bay of Fundy is said to have it’s anchor here.  We watched a video on the geography of the area and how the gravitational pull of the  moon cause this bulge in the water that forms the tides.  We could see the lovely  enclosed  power boat cruises on the water below our restaurant view.  We also saw the crazy folk in the jet boats  zipping through the rapids below.  Guess what we are going to do in the morning?  We were told we were guaranteed to get soaking wet.  Oh Boy. 

 This is a very  interesting city  with many  old Victorian style mansions and brightly colored buildings mixed with new buildings.The crowds around town today were  hefty as there were 3 large cruise ships in the harbor today.   I picked up information in the visitor center and despite being a very tired tourist, I saw dozens of things that were of interest to me.  We may stay here longer than planned.  It  rained all afternoon so I had a chance to read all the tour books.  I will be fixing meals in motor home as much as possible to use up the items we will not be able to take back into the USA. 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 04, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
September 4,  2008   Saint John, New Brunswick   Reversing Falls

It was a bright blue sky day with  a high of around 70.  Just perfect for our planned Jet Boat ride on the reversing falls which gave us a very up close and personal look at the power of the tides and an appreciation for the amount of water going in first one direction, then flatten (slack tide)  and  then go  out in the other.  Terry and I donned our raingear, jackets and pants and rubber shoes from our Alaska wardrobe.  Russ was to be the photographer.  We reported at  10:50 am and took photos of the rapids out front.  Yesterday when we were there the tide was coming in and water somewhat calm.  NOT so today, tide was retreating so the St John River was rushing in and causing big rapids and whirlpools and waves and moving so terribly fast.  I was having some hesitation but we had already paid for the  trip and the crowds were gone.  There  were  only two other  women  with us on the jet  boat.  We were advised to put on their rain gear and remove our watches, keys, glasses and  shoes.  Yep, even though our shoes were rubber we were advised to remove them.  We were told we would get wet.  So be it.  Our jet boat Captain gave us a lesson on the tides and advised us of the safety standards. He is from Quebec, had a very strong French accent and later I learned  just how sadistic he  could be.   We walked down the gang plank to our front row seat on the boat.  I was kinda hoping we could sit in the second row and be sheltered a bit from the water spray but no… we got front row seats.    A jet boat is very smooth, does not make a lot of noise but moves quickly and turns on a dime.  Mark the driver ( and owner of company)  took us out directly into the thrashing current, made a sharp circular turn into a  wave  and we were swamped,  Not splashed, not wet a little but completely drenched to the bone.  Water came in my ears, in my nose and down my neck.  So much for water proof clothing.  Mark looked back at his passengers and grinned an evil grin.  We were all laughing.  He asked us if we knew what the black birds nearby were. I said they looked like cormorants to us but he said they were vultures and laughed  and grinned an evil grin.  He was a kick.  He talked to us about the whirlpools and then let us experience them.  He took us over the rapids again and again and then out to the calm river.  He assured us there were no rocks creating these rapids but just the volumes of waters trying to levelize themselves to the incoming tides.  Each trip over the rapids created this wave that reminded me of swimming in large surf  in the ocean and having a huge wave crash right on your head.  When it was over I  hobbled up the gang plank, sat down for a while and could finally relax enough to say I enjoyed this event.  “You will get wet “ is an understatement.  What a memory making experience! 
We drove back to motor home to change into dry clothes and catch a city bus tour but that shall be part 2 of today’s story.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on September 04, 2008, 08:05:15 PM
I wouldn't have believed it possible, but you look wetter than you did on the Colorado whitewater rafting trip out of Moab. I can only hope that you weren't as cold !!!

Hooray for Russ for taking the pictures !

Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: rhmahoney on September 04, 2008, 08:38:19 PM
My wonderful Maritime trip is fast coming to a close :-(

I will depart Canada on Monday the 8th.

Who is still in New England? I plan on seeing a few favorite places in Maine and then to NY NY to visit a SCUBA buddie, Chet Parks in PA, and a high school friend in Washington DC and then back to Iowa by the first of Oct.

I will miss the Brewers who are wonderful traveling companions. I also will miss the delightful blogging by Betty...now I gotta struggle to do it myself!

Random notes.
Mosquitos were bad in PEI and Shediac but are rare here in St John. The attendant at the CG says it is due to the cold water of the bay of Funday keeping temps 10 degrees colder. Whatever, i am not complaining.

Today after getting pictures of the jet boat excursion, I went downtown to take a chance on a Mexican restaurant...couldn't find it! Went by where it was supposed to be 3 times. Saw a sign a block away pointing towards where it should be, but the store itself had no signage. Oh, well, went to the city market (a long hall with meat, fish, vegetable vendors and ready to eat vendors) which is a small version of the big ones like Pike mkt in Seattle.

This is an old old town with streets laid out over cow paths and has much traffic, complicated by construction...in other words -normal. I hate that!

Great weather today, upper 60s and sunny. DId a drive along the Fundy shore N of town. Tomorrow we will explore to the south which has more coves and fishing villages.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 05, 2008, 12:34:16 PM
Russ, thanks so much for photographing "The Drenching" so we have a permanent record and collective memory.  I've never seen either of the Brewers that wet!  ;D

ArdraF

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 05, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
I wouldn't have believed it possible, but you look wetter than you did on the Colorado whitewater rafting trip out of Moab. I can only hope that you weren't as cold !!!

Wendy,

Fortunately it was not cold at all.  The first wash of water across my bare feet in the bottom of the boat took my breath away but after that  even the waves of water over the boat did not feel as cold as it felt wet.  And YES I was considerably more wet that Colorado River trip. Ears are still full of water.

Tom,
While the water moved swiftly, this was not nearly as dangerous as the Lower Kern River  in high water season.  I did show them my scar and told them about that adventure and they assurred me nothing like that could happen.  The rapids on Kern are filled with massive boulders that caused our raft to flip.  But all of that said it will be a while  before Terry gets me into another thrill ride.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 06, 2008, 10:33:38 AM
September 5, 2008 St Andrews and St Stevens Side Trips

 

Today was another bright sunny day so we headed south of Saint John to visit St Stevens. Now I am one of those people who can typically live their whole life without chocolate. (Chips and Salsa are another story) Well I think I had just never met the right chocolate. Our destination today, The Ganong Chocolate Museum, was at the recommendation of several friends. All I can say to them is thank you , thank you! I learned that Ganong Bros. is a Canada’s oldest candy making company and was founded in 1873.

The Museum is located in their former chocolate and candy-making factory . The museum tells the story of the history of this family owned company. The 5th generation Ganong family is still running the company. The company survived the depression and sugar rationing and is still able to compete with the big candy makers like Hershey’s and Cadbury’s. We saw videos of the factory making candy. Factory tours are no longer offered as folks with peanut allergies and insurance liabilities stopped this touring a year or so ago. The best part of this visit was that they offered all the chocolate you could eat! It was a bargain since our admission fee was only ½ price as we had been given a 2 for 1 coupon at the visitor center. The chocolate covered almond flavored caramels were my favorite. It was hard to fit the tasting in with my Weight Watcher points. I did not get much else to eat the rest of the day but boy was it worth it. We saw sculptures of chocolate and very interesting handmade boxes. This company was the first to introduce heart shaped boxes. Some of the machines still used in production today date back to 1912. They do mail order business and you can shop online at www.ganong.com. I will be doing this for special occasions.

Since St Stephens is right on the border with Calais , we took the opportunity to see where we will be crossing the border back into the USA in a few days. I am also reading up on the food items I will not be able to bring back into USA and having meals to use up that food.

From This little town we ventured back up coast to St. Andrews, one of the oldest and loveliest resort towns in the Maritimes.( or says the tour books) This historic quaint town offered us the first clam chowder we have been able to find in a long while. Seafood chowder is the usual fare but we wanted the clam variety . It was yummy and we had a seat overlooking the bay while noticing dozens of tourists get off of the whale watching vessels. I let the guys have a seat on the town benches while I took a leisurely stroll through the shops. Many art shops offered the crafts of artists from New Brunswick. If I had not already picked up so many souvenirs I may have had to make a purchase but enough is enough. St Andrews was founded right after the American revolutionary war. Colonist who were still loyal to the King of England, picked up lock stock and barrel and moved. We were told some even took their homes down piece by piece and transported them here by barge. There are many old historic homes in this small town. Parking was free and the atmosphere festive. They have a wonderful campground out on the end of the Bay and had we known it may have been a good place to stay as we neared the border. There is lovely golf course and nice park on the water as well. Are you reading this Jeff?

Our final tourist stop was at the Huntsman Outdoorsciences Aquarium. A local fisherman found a 22 pound lobster estimated to be over 35 years old. After much city debate it was decided that this gal nicknamed Dee Dee should not be boiled but preserved in this tank for to visitors to see. The lobster fetched $1000 for the fishermen. Lobster are expensive any way you see it!  She was shy and hid behind the wall but I did capture a photo of her claw with my hand for perspective.

My passengers slept in the car as I took my turn and drove us home back to Saint John.

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 06, 2008, 10:50:05 AM
Keep 'em coming Betty. Lots of folks are following along (see above).

Apologies for the sidetrack; I'll try to get it cleaned up and moved to a separate topic.

Edit: Split and moved.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on September 06, 2008, 08:01:52 PM
Betty:

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 07, 2008, 01:22:51 PM
September 6,  2008   Saint John City Bus Tour

Today was foggy and rainy.  I did not leave the motor home all day  so I shall tell you about the  tour we took the other day.   Here at Rockwood RV Park there was a big sign with a phone number for a  2 hour  city bus tour of Saint John. ($17.00 per person) The bus picked us up right beside our motor home.  We were the only two passengers on this big bus designed for 40 passengers.  Doug our guide,  told us it has been a slow year for tourism.   He had not had any passengers on his morning trip.  He was driver and guide and was born and raised in Saint John.  His wife teaches Special Ed at the junior high and  has already started back to school.  We made 2 other stops to pick up passengers but no one was there.  I am going to give you random things I recall from this very interesting trip. 

When we drove the  car in to take the Reversing Falls trip a  few days ago we had already discovered some of the interesting and diverse areas of interest.  I liked this city right off.  It has old world charm with big city modernizations.  The traffic was typical big city and much construction in town delayed and rerouted the bus tour course.

Saint John was discovered in 1604.  It sits at the mouth of the St John River that empties into the Bay of Fundy.  In  1783 Loyalists fled the Boston area after the American Revolution and some 3,000 settlers came. In 1840 the potato famine in Ireland brought another influx of Irish .  Since then  immigrants from all nations have found a home in Saint John.  The present population is 75,000.  People work in the local industries that include a  natural gas terminal, in oil refineries, in government positions and in tourism.  Three large cruise ships were in port on our tourist day.  It sure swamps the downtown area when they emerge from their huge ships.  Irving Company is headquarter here.  KC Irving was among the 10 richest men in the world at his death, with an estimated wealth in the billions of dollars.   He was from  New Brunswick and  made his fortune by  buying companies. He had deals with Henry Ford to  sell the autos here , then he purchased the shipping lines to have them transported.  He was quite a  philanthropist too and made many donations to the city.  We see Irving fuel stations all over the Maritimes. The Irving pulp and paper mill sits right across from the reversing falls. It manufactures Kraft tissue paper.  They don’t give tours.  We passed by the  big Sims  plant that makes paint brushes and brooms.

Many of the churches and fancy old homes are built of red  stone that was used as ballast on the English ships coming over.  Instead of just dumping the stone, the settlers used it for construction being some of the first forms of recycling.  The English came  looking for the lumber from the nearby forests to  use in the  ship building industries. Kings Square was built in the middle of the town and features one of the nicest City Markets I’ve ever visited.  I could not  help but notice the contrast to the  city markets we visited  in  Mexico.  I recognized every fruit and vegetable and I knew how much it cost.  I saw lovely produce and even better looking meats.  Too  bad the USA will not let us bring  any of this in when we cross back in a week or so.  We had the good fortune to get to go inside the Imperial Theatre which was in its hey day in the  early 1900’s.  It has recently been refurbished and was saved by locals who did not want to see it demolished due to disrepair.  A taxi driver led the  mega fundraising and  now it hosts  plays, concerts and events .  It is absolutely gorgeous inside. Unfortunately nothing was playing during our time here  or I would have gotten a ticket to attend. 

The park in Kings Square is home to numerous  statues  honoring war heroes, founding fathers  and citizens who helped  two shipwrecked men.  It is beautifully manicured and the bandstand in  the middle is home to summer concerts which are now over.  Terry and I commented on the lovely median in the middle of the road alive with brightly colored marigolds.  We learned that is a project done by local elementary school children.  They start the marigolds from seed in school and then the streets are blocked off for them to plant.  It sure dresses up  the city.  We were told a former Mayor made sure the city had plenty of flowers planted.  They are hard  and expensive to maintain however, with the winters.

We passed by many beautiful churches.  Indeed the skyline is filled with spirals and steeples and neat looking architecture.  We were told about one in particular that sailors used to navigate.  When the ship could line up the  3 sister lamp (see photo) with the salmon on top  of steeple  and one other place I don’t recall, then they could navigate safely into the harbor and not hit rocks.  I am left with a desire to return to several spots of interest.  This is a wonderful city.   
Sorry if I botched  any facts.  Two hours of interesting dialogue and two days ago , this old memory just does not retain like it used
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 07, 2008, 02:36:48 PM
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one of the nicest City Markets I’ve ever visited.  I could not  help but notice the contrast to the  city markets we visited  in  Mexico.  I recognized every fruit and vegetable and I knew how much it cost.  I saw lovely produce and even better looking meats.

You left off clean!  ;) It does look nice.  Did you get to enjoy any of the PEI potatoes while there?  I hadn't had really fresh potatoes in many years and they were so nice.

What a neat idea that mayor had to have the children plant seeds and then replant around the city.  That's a great way to have the children be able to see the end result of their efforts.

I don't remember the story of the mariners lining up the three lights and church steeple salmon to use as channel markers.  Aren't people inventive!  When we first moved to Redwood City CA there was a gigantic salt pile because Leslie Salt had evaporation ponds in the area.  We were told it was a major landmark for pilots flying into San Francisco.  But the salt pile was a whole lot bigger than that light post and salmon!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on September 07, 2008, 04:19:29 PM
Betty your  memory was good, the only point I could pick you up on was that the Loyalist left from Long Island NY, mostly from Oyster Bay, in what was referred to as the "Spring Fleet", which arrived in New Brunswick in 1783.  Avery small point, since with its close proximity, Boston might have been a logical exit port.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: BernieD on September 07, 2008, 05:18:35 PM
September 6,  2008   Saint John City Bus Tour
Irving Company is headquarter here.  KC Irving was among the 10 richest men in the world at his death, with an estimated wealth in the billions of dollars.   He was from  New Brunswick and  made his fortune by  buying companies. He had deals with Henry Ford to  sell the autos here , then he purchased the shipping lines to have them transported.  He was quite a  philanthropist too and made many donations to the city.  We see Irving fuel stations all over the Maritimes. The Irving pulp and paper mill sits right across from the reversing falls. It manufactures Kraft tissue paper.  They don’t give tours. 

Betty

When we last enjoyed the Maritimes 2 years ago, the group we were with were able to stop and tour an Irving lumber mill somewhere in Nova Scotia. Among other things we learned that KC Irving had 3 sons and each one runs (ran?) one part of the company; one for oil, one for transportation and one for forestry.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 09, 2008, 12:34:29 PM
September 8, 2008 Saint John City and St. Martin

Today was very sad. Russ left us. We have been traveling together since April and today he ventured back across the border to the USA. His time line is tighter than ours and his destination of Iowa by October 1 sent him off earlier than our schedule. Last night we said our good byes over the photos of our wonderful Atlantic Canada travels. So now we are on our own. Terry and I have only a few days left in Canada and then I will end this journal hoping that those who followed along will someday be able to travel in our footsteps or at least enjoyed our trip vicariously.

It was a beautifully sunshiny day. As I was doing some business on the computer I noted the trailer next to us was leaving. Wait, what’s wrong with this picture? He still had his electrical cord and water hose attached and his mat out. I hollered for him to stop but he did not hear me. Terry got on his shoes and ran out the driveway while the electrical cord bounced along the gravel, the water hose had already pulled off of his trailer. When Terry caught up with the guy and informed him of his problem, he was very embarrassed and came back to his sight to retrieve his water hose and mat. He is from Oregon. Don’t we all need reminders to do the walk around check before we leave a campsite?

My agenda today was to return to the center of Saint John and attend the New Brunswick Museum. It was one of the top 3 I have visited on our travels. Despite my tourist overload this museum had areas of interest covered in a very interesting way. It covered the lumber industry, the ship building industry and artists works. The 25 minute film on the Bay of Fundy was alone worth the price of admission. Too bad but no photos were allowed. We also viewed the spiral staircase in the courthouse built years ago with no structural support. We walked the Kings Square again and were better able to enjoy the statues and monuments. We walked the City Market again and I bought some seaweed that was advertised as something like potato chips. No way. The Firefighters Museum was closed so we missed that venue. I learned that it was closed for lack of volunteers to keep it open at this time of year.

As it was still sunny and bright we moved up the coast for a car trip to tour St. Martins. It was the beginning of The  Fundy Coastal Drive. It had the best scenery we have seen on a coastal drive in New Brunswick. We went through covered bridges and saw lovely shores. We came to the Sea caves and I had my first cup of sea chowder of the trip. It was delicious! We walked on the stone beaches at low tide. It was not easy walking but I did have on my sensible shoes. There were several tour busses offering side trips for cruise ship passengers so we knew we were in “the “ spots to visit. I loved all of it.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on September 09, 2008, 12:54:02 PM
You mean we won't get to hear about the rest of your East travels??
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 09, 2008, 02:32:27 PM
What delightful photos!  Looks like a neat area.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on September 09, 2008, 06:51:23 PM
Again and excellent job...Betty.

JerryF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 09, 2008, 07:08:40 PM
September 9,  2008  Final Day in Canada, Saint John

We slept in.  It was gloomy and overcast and rained in late afternoon.  We wanted to use up all of  our Canadian money and  headed toward the fuel station.  Terry put $30.30 of fuel into the car to use up our last cash.  We have 7 cents left and the  $2 required to cross the toll bridge in the morning as we leave Canada.  We enjoyed another dinner at the Restaurant at Reversing Falls.

Tonight we reflect on the things we look forward to as we return to the USA.  I will  enjoy using miles, gallons and US currency, where   I can identify a quarter without reading the small print on it.  I will enjoy the use of the US mail system where I understand a stamp.  I will enjoy shopping where I can buy brand names I am familiar with, like Morton salt.  Terry is most looking forward to clams, Mexican food and Olive Garden .

I loved visiting Atlantic Canada.  If we had just visited Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick it would have been as our Journal title indicated, The Maritimes, but because we  also visited Newfoundland, it is more accurate to say Atlantic Canada.  Whatever  we call it, this part of Canada is wonderful.  I learned about the history of Canada and noted how we are more similar than different.  We found folks friendly  outgoing and helpful .  My favorite place was Newfoundland and Twillingate in particular.  It is not likely that we will ever visit this neck of the woods again but we have our memories and photos to remind us of the wonderful times.

Tomorrow we start our farewell to the East Coast tour.  After providing a post with  information on the border crossing, I will not be  doing a daily journal.  I  will miss the closeness I’ve felt by talking to my forum friends every day.   I hope you will consider traveling to this part of the world and that my  travels will guide you to some good times.

Good bye my friends, or

Au Revior mes amis
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Ron on September 09, 2008, 07:20:53 PM
Enjoyed your reports and photos.  Thanks for taking us with you. Welcome back to the USA.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Lorna on September 09, 2008, 08:03:26 PM
Terry and Betty

Thanks so much for taking us with you.  All of your reports and the photos were great.  Looking forward to seeing you on the east coast.  Will send you an email in the next day or two.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on September 09, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
We're going to miss our "Daily Betty" read very much.  I remember the withdrawal symptoms we experienced when your Mexico trip ended.  I'm girding for similar withdrawal while missing your Atlantic Canada trip postings.  Great job, Betty!  Thank you so much for your time and effort spent in taking us along with you.   And, thanks for the photos, Terry!

So .... where are we going next year?  :D

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 09, 2008, 11:43:40 PM
Betty's writings have also been captured in our forum library here (http://www.rvforum.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=349&Itemid=41).
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Daisy on September 10, 2008, 06:44:35 PM


Nice job Betty.  We so enjoyed reading your adventures.  And welcome back into the good ol' USA.   ;)

Daisy & Fred
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on September 10, 2008, 06:47:15 PM
Thanks for sharing the travels of the Brewers and Mahoney. Maybe we'll get to that area some day and if we do, we'll have your experience to rely on. Maybe we'll never get there, in which case we were able to enjoy seeing the area through your eyes. Either way, we win.

Thanks
Wendy
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 10, 2008, 06:58:27 PM
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... if we do, we'll have your experience to rely on.

Methinks that many of us will rely on Betty's and Jeff's writings for travel in the maritimes. Wish we'd had more time to spend there last trip, but hopefully next year ...
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 10, 2008, 06:59:52 PM
September 10,  2008  Trenton, Maine USA     Timberland  Acres RV Park  207-667-3600


Well it was an uneventful crossing through Calais border crossing to the USA.  As it was the night before a big travel day,  I could not sleep last night.  I was excited to return to US soil.  The border had about 10 cars in front of us. The entrance was a little tricky for a 40 foot motor home with toad.  Had to really hug the curb  to make the turn into the aisle.  We  provided our passports, were asked where we were coming from and told to pull up a 10 yards or so and stop.  We followed the directions.  An official asked us what we were bringing into the country that we did not have when we left.  Two t shirts.   Did we have any fruits vegetables or meat?  Answer:  We have no fruit but we have lettuce carrots and onions,  one bottle of wine and one can of beer.   Ok Thank you very much have a nice day.  And off we go.  We traveled 50 yards to a fuel  station and  edged into the pumps.  Problem was they had no diesel at this station so  we  edge our way back to the road and  off we go  in the USA! We are happy to see miles per hour as speed limits and  fuel prices posted outside stations. We got  our least expensive diesel since we filled in Yuma AZ on April 8, 2008.  We paid $3.99 per gallon. A bargain.  Our highest fuel on this trip was in Gander Newfoundland at $6.01 per gallon.

 We followed Highway 1 to Trenton, Maine.  I could not help but notice that we saw more junky yards along this route than we did in all of Maritimes.  But we also saw lovely big well maintained yards.  As we neared Bar Harbor the traffic picked up.  There are still lots of  tourists here.  We selected this campground on the recommendation of Gary and  it is going to be a good base for our week’s stay here.  Some of the sites are  over 100 feet in length!  Clear cut area so we have internet, TV and  a nearby Wal-Mart.  We are happy.

It has been 2 days since Russ left us  and we were  having withdrawals, we  phoned him on our arrival and drove the 8 miles to the   RV Park where he is staying,   Narrows Too.  It is a fancy resort and many sites are on the water.  We  picked him up, drove 2 blocks to a lobster pound and the three of us had another farewell dinner.  Russ had lobster, Terry had steamed clams and I had gulf shrimp.  The only problem was the mosquitoes  got to us as the meal neared it’s end.  He will move south in the morning and we will  stay for a week.  What a trip.  What good friends.

Thank you for following our adventures.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Pat Maitland on September 10, 2008, 10:59:55 PM
Betty - What a wonderful adventure!  You have made us feel like we were there.  Thanks for the ride. Look forward to seeing you two down south - Alice and Pat
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom and Margi on September 10, 2008, 11:23:30 PM
I just noticed that there have been 6,000+ forum views of your Maritime journal.   ;D

What a testament, not only to your writing talent, but to the enthusiasm you inject into each description of what you have seen and experienced every day of  your travels.  I believe it's your enthusiastic, consistent, positive, optimistic outlook toward travel which keeps all of us "tuning in" each day.   Heck, you could describe a trip to the Emeryville mudflats at low tide and I'd be hooked!   ::)

Good job, girlfriend, good job!  :D 

Margi
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Barb on September 11, 2008, 06:46:31 AM
Writing a Journal everyday is a time consuming and dedicated task.  I thank you for all your efforts.  I have enjoyed reading all of your journals.  We hope to get there someday also.  I feel the same way Wendy does.  Thanks for sharing.

Barb
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on September 11, 2008, 07:34:35 AM
     Margi, that's exactly what Betty did, go up and read her notes on the Hopewell Rocks/  I've been there, got the bumper sticker, it is not much more than mud flats with big rocks.  Betty makes it sound so inviting, I almost want to stop the next time we drive by, and it has been 20 years since we actually have stopped. 
     I must admit, after reading the Mexico string, then following this string throughout Atlantic Canada, I was very pleased to finally meet Betty, Terry and Russ when they hit Shediac.  Being familiar with a lot of the areas being described only increased my fascination with the posts.  Being an Atlantic Canadian, I am very proud of my native area, and if their only real negative comments are on our Provincial birds, the mosquito, then we've each done our small part in making the tourists feel welcome.
     Thank you for all your comments, hopefully we will meet again and we all look foreward in reading your next sojourn.

Ed & Donna
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: JerArdra on September 11, 2008, 09:02:36 AM
Betty & Terry,

Your journal has been excellent...thank you.  We are glad you went back to the reversing falls restaurant for a second time.  We did too because it is such a nice place.  Have a wonderful and safe journey home.

Thanks again,
Jerry & Ardra 
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 11, 2008, 09:31:20 AM
          I must admit, after reading the Mexico string, then following this string throughout Atlantic Canada, I was very pleased to finally meet Betty, Terry and Russ when they hit Shediac.  Being familiar with a lot of the areas being described only increased my fascination with the posts.  Being an Atlantic Canadian, I am very proud of my native area, and if their only real negative comments are on our Provincial birds, the mosquito, then we've each done our small part in making the tourists feel welcome.


Ed and Donna,

Thank you for your kind words but even more thank you for your kind actions.  Your invitation to  dinner at your cottage in Shediac, New Brunswick  was among the  top highlights of our trip.  No matter what sights we see or history we learn, it seems to me that the interactions we have with PEOPLE  are the most special and memory making .  Your hospitality certainly impressed us.  I  again thank you for all of your  tourist tips.  Canadians have much of which to be proud.  Your invitations and open sharing  gave me reason to reflect on how I might treat tourists I've never ever even met.  Hopefully I will have become a better American who thinks about giving the personal touch to  visitors from other countries if not from even other parts of our own big USA.  You and Donna have a standing invitation for some hospitality if you ever get into Southern Arizona!  ( While we are "home." )

Betty
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 11, 2008, 01:44:45 PM
Betty,

I was waiting to be sure you got back into the U.S. okay, so WELCOME HOME!  Glad "it" was a non-event.  Your daily journal was fabulous and I've enjoyed every single word and photo in it.  My days won't seem the same without checking on your whereabouts.  :'(

Enjoy your week of rest before resuming your journey.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on September 11, 2008, 05:52:37 PM
Final 88 day expense report.

Fuel includes motorhome & auto.
Meals includes groceries & restaurants.
Lodging is campgrounds.
Miscellaneous is everything else...mostly sightseeing/tour fees & souvenirs, Ferry Fees but not Tires for the Envoy.

   Fuel.....................$4575.23
   Meals...................  3242.92
   Lodging................  2356.37
   Miscellaneous.......... 4199.02

   Total.................... $14373.54

  $163.34 a day for two people. We Have Not SKIMPED on anything.<G>

Miles Driven   

Motorhome................4404
Gmc Envoy................4739

Total........................9143


Below I'm showing our 2006 Alaska Expenses for comparison

Final 109 day expense report.

Fuel includes motorhome & auto.
Meals includes groceries & restaurants.
Lodging is campgrounds.
Miscellaneous is everything else...mostly sightseeing/tour fees & souvenirs.

   Fuel.....................$3637.89
   Meals...................  3169.89
   Lodging................  2163.14
   Miscellaneous.......... 4793.17

   Total.................... $13764.09

  $126.28 a day for two people. We Have Not SKIMPED on anything.<G>

Miles Driven Alaska/Canada

Motorhome................6258
Gmc Envoy................3343

Total........................9601
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 11, 2008, 06:14:38 PM
Terry and Betty,

Even with all those lobsters, feeding the vehicles cost about $1,300 more than feeding the two of you!  :D  But then, you're worth it!

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 11, 2008, 06:52:49 PM
Thanks Terry. Can you imagine 2 people going anywhere on an 88-day vacation and seeing/doing the things you and Betty did for under $14,500? You can't beat an extended RV trip.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Jeff on September 11, 2008, 10:06:39 PM
Terry:

I haven't added ours up yet but I think you two got off easy. Your trip was longer so I guess you got the volume discount! ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Wendy on September 12, 2008, 10:33:38 AM
Terry - Interesting comparison. I'm surprised that the daily in Canada was higher than the daily in Alaska. Even if you take out the fuel expense, you get Canada $111.34 and Alaska $92.90.....must be all that lobster you ate !

Thanks for posting. I enjoy seeing the numbers. And it gives me some idea of what we'll need if we ever head that way. Just curious, do you think that any trip in Canada would cost more than a trip the same number of miles and days in the U.S.?

Wendy

Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: ArdraF on September 12, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
Wendy,

One difference was no ferries to Alaska.  That would have accounted for some of it.

ArdraF
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Betty Brewer on September 12, 2008, 11:00:25 AM
Terry - Interesting comparison. I'm surprised that the daily in Canada was higher than the daily in Alaska. Even if you take out the fuel expense, you get Canada $111.34 and Alaska $92.90.....must be all that lobster you ate !Thanks for posting. I enjoy seeing the numbers. And it gives me some idea of what we'll need if we ever head that way. Just curious, do you think that any trip in Canada would cost more than a trip the same number of miles and days in the U.S.?

Wendy I won't speak for Terry but I can give you my take on costs.  The  cost of food groceries and restaurants as well as campground fees was  considerably more  in Canada.  We were not able to boon dock  very much at all, while in Alaska we had many many nights of  overnights along  beautiful sides of the road.  In Canada we also had over $1200 worth of Ferry fees to and from Newfoundland.  Then there was the ferry and bridge to PEI.  The lobster in camparison to eating out  in USA was a bargain.  I think any trip in Canada would be more than any trip in USA.  Fuel cost are considerable higher.  Their taxes are  as much as 16 % in some places.  EVERYHING in  Newfoundland cost more than US prices as they have to transport everything tothe island. 
I went back and reviewed our Alaskan  Miscellaneous cost ( thank you to Ned's rolling stock program) and found we had some expensive plane fares for sight seeing, some expensive fising boat charters, some expensive souvenirs .  This may have equalized our  ferry to  NL.  The cost of traveling and making memories is what it is and  is worth it to us.  ( Even if I gulp at the end of a month!)
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Terry A. Brewer on September 12, 2008, 06:01:02 PM
Wendy

>Terry - Interesting comparison. I'm surprised that the daily in Canada was higher than the daily in Alaska. <<

Just about everything in Canada is more expensive...Combine that with HIGH SALES TAX( I hope they are getting excellent medical benefits), our monies being about equal & high gas prices equal a very expensive travel destination.....but one well worth it, what price do you put on experiences & memories? Each person will have to answer that.

I like to post my expenses because I always wondered how much extended vacations were costing folks.
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2008, 11:15:54 AM
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... I hope they are getting excellent medical benefits...

That discussion has been moved here (http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=19014.msg179819#msg179819).
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Marlybelle on February 21, 2016, 11:13:22 PM
your trip sounds wonderful and we are headed that way this June.  How do we access the pictures
Title: Re: Canadian Maritimes with Mahoney/Brewers 08
Post by: Hfx_Cdn on February 22, 2016, 07:18:46 AM
      The pictures are imbedded into Betty's posts, so you have to start on page 1 and follow along, opening the ones you want to see.  As you get into your planning, either PM me, or open a new string, and I'll try to answer any questions or provide suggestions.  As good as Betty's log is, don't just look at hers, there have been a lot of Framily who have visited, and posted their experiences, and most have different things they liked best.

Ed