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Title: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on September 27, 2014, 07:31:32 PM
For us non-music theorists, here's a handy dandy capo placement guide (http://shubb.com/transposer/index.html).

I understand the relative intervals, but can't bring my brain to figure out where to place the capo. This inexpensive guide makes it easy. On the flip side is an easy chord transposition guide.

A few days ago, while watching one of the talent competitions on TV, I caught myself pausing the replay to count the frets where the performer placed the capo on her guitar  :-[
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Molaker on September 27, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
Now if you were really good, it would go in your pocket. :)
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on September 27, 2014, 07:50:14 PM
It sits on my music stand, so I must not be good  ;D
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on September 27, 2014, 10:30:30 PM
I must be really bad then.  I have an assortment of capos and sometimes use more than one at a time.

I've seen some pretty good (I.e. world class) guitarists use capos.

Wanna bet there's a smartphone app for this?  Yep!  Just found one for $.99

There are no first position grooves worn in the neck of any of my guitars.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on September 27, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
Now I'm really lost: How do you use more than one capo at a time  ???
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on September 27, 2014, 11:40:26 PM
By taking a hacksaw to 'em.  😱  I cut them to various lengths to cover however many strings I want.

I tried to explain this to someone while I was in French Camp and he got that deer in the headlights look until I showed him how it works.

Any one of these videos will give you the general idea.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=partial%20guitar%20capo&sm=3

(The Pete Berrenger piece is nice)
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on September 28, 2014, 05:31:30 AM
Some neat videos. Now I understand. I was trying to picture more than one regular capo being used at the same time. But it's all way too clever for me  :(
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on September 28, 2014, 11:41:39 AM
It a really simple way to 'broaden' the range of the sound in much the same way a pianist might play the bottom end of a chord an octave down.  As you can see from the number of videos there are lots of people using this technique.

But back to the 'bad' comment.  I wanna be BAD!  Badder is better.

Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on September 28, 2014, 11:56:32 AM
The videos had the desired effect; I've ordered a short (aka cut) capo from amazon.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on September 28, 2014, 12:17:34 PM
You're going to drive your guitar teacher up the wall dude!

Glad I could help.....
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2014, 08:24:17 AM
Silly me, I inadvertently ordered (and received) a Drop-D capo  :-[ I've re-ordered and hopefully clicked the right button this time.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 03, 2014, 09:33:32 PM
I use the drop D the most!  Hang on to it.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
I've been playing stumbling around with it today, and I'm amazed at the sounds I was producing, even if I didn't know what I was doing  :-[
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 04, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
I'm glad you're enjoying it.  Told you!
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2014, 02:22:50 PM
I just wish I knew what I was doing  :(

Ordered a book and CD on using partial capo; Just picked it out of the mailbox, and hope this will help my understanding.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 04, 2014, 02:45:39 PM
Don't let yourself get bogged down by the technical stuff.  Just play what sounds good to you.  If it sounds bad your neighbors will let you know 😜
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
You give me too much credit  ;D
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 04, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
In experimenting with new stuff you just never know what's going to happen.  I was fooling around with straight D tuning and almost random chords while I was in Columbia and got two new songs out of it.  I've been recording tracks like a madman. 

Of course in the middle of this one of the disk drives in my audio workstation decided to go rogue on me in such a way that it took hours to figure out what was causing the weird pops, buzzing noises, and total system hangs.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 09, 2014, 06:14:07 PM
I'm starting to collect capos  :-[   I have 1 for ukulele and 3 for guitar. Today I ordered a fourth for guitar. No more!
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 09, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Whatever you do DON'T start messing around with alternate turnings.  You'll find yourself buying a guitar for each tuning.
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 10, 2014, 02:29:14 AM
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... DON'T start messing around with alternate turnings.

I plan to stick to normal turns  ;D

FWIW my "extra" capo is merely a quick-attach clamp style to replace the original Shubb full capo that I bought; The Shubb is a great capo if it's not required to quickly attach and remove, then it becomes a PITA. All the others I bought (for guitar) are quick attach/remove.
 
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 10, 2014, 11:00:25 AM
I use nothing but Shubbs.  the time it takes to attach one and adjust it properly gives me time to get in a quick one liner.  ::)
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 10, 2014, 11:10:02 AM
If I were fiddling with changing several Shubb capos in a 'live' show, I'd be afraid of inadvertently uttering something I shouldn't  :-[
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: 8Muddypaws on October 10, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
ah, to hear the groaning of an audience in response to a bad joke.

Nothing finer!
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: Tom on October 10, 2014, 03:20:56 PM
I wasn't thinking of a joke; More like a profanity when I struggle to get the (Shubb) capo on in a hurry :-[
Title: Re: Capo placement
Post by: rockinstephen on December 22, 2014, 08:40:56 PM
Two observations on capos:
1.) I have seen an excellent acoustic guitarist use 3 capos at once! How he did it, I'll never know...
2.) The great electric bluesman Albert Collins always used a capo...