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rv exterior shine
« on: May 26, 2009, 04:08:58 AM »
my rv has shinney spots and the rest of the rv is dull. I wanted to restore the shine but was inform that it wasnt posible to restore the shine on fiberglass by waxing or somthing else. There is a guy in my area advertising on craigslist that you can restore the finish. he estimate my rv at  a cost of 70 dollars in material and 2 days work at 600 dollars.he guaranted that the shine will come back and he will do a small section first to prove it. can it be restored and if so does anybody know how to restore the shine on fiberglass. money is tight and Im willing to do the work myself if it means saving 600 dollars.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2009, 07:19:31 AM »
I would try some products for yourself.  Here is a selection of cleaners and polishes for fiberglass.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 11:04:28 AM »
Lots of previous discussions on this, and I'm the same boat as you are.  (That's the second time I've used a boat reference today on the RV forum! ??)  The main problem seems to be gelcoat, if that's how your fiberglass is coated.  Once it dulls substantially, it's like a clearcoat over the color and can be very hard or impossible to bring back completely.

My wife and I have a week-long anniversary trip (no kids) coming up in a couple weeks, with hopefully lots of leisure time around the campground.  I have a few different fiberglass products that I'm going to try in different areas of my MH's finish, and see what works best.  I plan on reporting back to the forum to share my experience, so stay tuned!
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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2009, 11:12:47 AM »
I had someone tell me the same thing and it did not work.  Looks really crummy now.  I tried just about everything suggested by this forum and nothing seemed to work.  Hope you have better luck.
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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2009, 11:23:58 AM »
I've heard some good reviews about REJEX, but have never used it myself.  As with all products, you need to make sure you have removed the oxidized layer before waxing with this stuff. 
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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2009, 11:52:12 AM »
Try some of the polishes that claim to be oxidation removers. It might help.  The marine (boat) polishes seem to do a bit better than the car types - they are designed for fiberglass and boats get severely oxidized. Be prepared for a lot of elbow grease.

There are no magic finish restorers and I suspect your guy's process won't do much either.  You could offer to pay for the materials up front and pay for the labor AFTERWARDS only if you are satisfied with the resulting shine.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2009, 01:07:06 PM »
You could offer to pay for the materials up front and pay for the labor AFTERWARDS only if you are satisfied with the resulting shine.

It's not only the resulting shine but more importantly how long it lasts. I spent many hours using an oxidation remover and then wax on our motor home a couple years ago. It looked really good when I was finished but within three to four months was almost back to it's original condition and now doesn't look much worse than when I started. I would not go through all that work again for the way the final job eventually turned out. Once a fiberglass surfaced gets well oxidized, IMO, paint and big dollars are the only cures.
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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009, 01:22:04 PM »
he is willing to prove that it will shine with no money up front and he show me before and after pictures of several jobs.the only question is how lond it will last.he claims it will last a long time.he been in the fiberglass and restoration businees for 20 years.I was hoping some one new how it is done so I could save 600 dollars.

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2009, 01:27:29 PM »
he is willing to prove that it will shine with no money up front and he show me before and after pictures of several jobs.the only question is how lond it will last.

If you have him do your motor home, try to find out what products he uses. This would be invaluable for many on the forum. Also, let us know how well it lasts. If I could find something which really works, as well as lasts a reasonable length of time, I might consider doing mine again. Thanks.
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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 02:06:02 PM »
   Just trying to help out a bit for folks with a shine problem on the RV.

There are basically 3 types of surfaces. (Not addressing bare metal, wood siding etc)  ;)

1. The older type is bare unpainted fiberglas, usually white.
2. Fiberglas coated with Gel coat... could be any color
3. Fiberglas with full body paint,
       Older models without Clear Coat
       Newer models with Clear coat.

  I will address only item # 1.  (My RV).. There is no way to get a shine on it with ordinary methods, i.e. Automobile/Marine compounds and waxes. They won't last more than a few months, after hours/days of back-breaking work. There is, however, an easy way to clean it and prevent dirt accumulation to a very satisfactory level. My old RV looks like new and doesn't seem to want to get dirty any more. Furthermore, after I treated the entire fiberglas roof the same way, the white streaks down the sides after a rain are history. Problem over.

   I have posted several entries on this. I invite you to search the forum for "Stop Wax" and see what you can find.

   For all other finishes on your RV, there are myriad posts addressing that problem. So what type of RV finish do you have? Your choice.

   Will be happy to answer any further questions.

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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 02:22:19 PM »
     I have posted several entries on this. I invite you to search the forum for "Stop Wax" and see what you can find.

Carson,

I remember your post sometime ago about the Stop Wax and tried to find some. I believe that you said you purchased it from Home Depot. I tried two stores (Rochester and Tucson) and neither had it or had heard of it. Is that where you purchased yours?
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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 02:37:20 PM »
When I encounter areas with oxidation, I use "hull-cleaner". I purchase it from West Marine, but it is in many other stores. It has gentle abrasives and chemical cleaners. After removing the oxidation, I wash with a regular automotive car-wash and then apply a couple of coats of marine wax, or synthetic polymer. The polymer is the best protector and the easiest to apply, but it is also the most expensive.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 03:19:23 PM »
Richard, Something strange seems to be happening with that company..Their website is under construction, whatever that means. Maybe a victim of the times.

   I purchased my supply a couple of times from our local Home Depot store not so long ago. They had lots on the shelves. Matter of fact another forum member confirmed that he found it there as well.

   I don't know exactly who makes it, but it is made in the USA. The distributor is "Big Time Products, LLC" out of Rome GA.
  They have an Email: custsupport@bigtimeproducts.net

A google search seemed to be dubious. Haven't checked with HD lately on supply. Right now your guess is as good as mine. I am glad I got my supply when I did.

   The UPC code is 7    31919 04101   2

Next time I go to HD I'll look for it and let you know.

   Keep in touch.

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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 03:53:56 PM »
Richard,  more info... I received an e-mail back from the company.

   Here is what they said> The Stop Wax product has been discontinued by Home Depot, therefore, we have discontinued it.  The website for the manufacturer is www.lustrelab.com.

  I guess this is a sign of times

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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 05:34:45 PM »
Scottydl, you are going on a weeklong anniversary trip without the kids and you are planning to POLISH THE MOTORHOME?


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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2009, 07:28:28 PM »
Here is what they said> The Stop Wax product has been discontinued by Home Depot, therefore, we have discontinued it.  The website for the manufacturer is www.lustrelab.com.

Carson,

Do you think that LustreLab® LXR® Inc. products are the same as the Stop Wax? Your e-mail response seems to indicate that they have discontinued the Stop Wax.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009, 10:49:30 PM »
Scottydl, you are going on a weeklong anniversary trip without the kids and you are planning to POLISH THE MOTORHOME?

LOL, maybe I didn't explain that well.  That's not the ONLY activity that will be going on.   ;D  Although my wife is already 5 months pregnant with our 3rd, so............

Seriously when I'm working and home with all the daily grind, I rarely have time for any kind of leisure activity to include "polishing the motorhome".  :)
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2009, 07:37:57 AM »
Richard, I can only assume that the STOP WAX label was specific to HD.

   In reading the Lustrelab website here , the wording on their product reads the same as STOP WAX.  I hope to get my E-mail answered today. Will let you know.


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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 10:08:27 AM »
Richard,  more info.

   Received the following reply from Lustrelab today.


   This was a product we made for a company that serviced Home Depot we have no outlets in your area. Lustrelab LXR is about two times the strength of the stop wax type products and can be purchased at www.lustrelab.com and click order now or phone 1-866-597-5971 the 32 ounce bottle is $19.95 plus shipping

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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2009, 12:01:07 PM »
Richard,  more info.

   Received the following reply from Lustrelab today.

Thanks, Carson. I will wait for someone to report back on their results. After my last major clean/wax experiment, I am not too anxious to jump into the job again. I am keeping the link. If anyone tries the new product, please post your results. Thanks.
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2009, 12:18:12 PM »
Just remember, Richard, there is virtually no back-breaking labor involved.

   Start with a clean RV, wipe or brush on the solution ( a few ounces per pail of water). Then rinse it off, doing a section at a time, and that's it. No rubbing at all, the chemical just adheres the the fiberglas and other surfaces by itself. You can do the whole thing in 1/2 hour. Sure works for me.
   The new stuff should be better than StopWax, it is more concentrated.

  I'll be using it after I run out of the old stuff.

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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2009, 12:23:51 PM »
Just remember, Richard, there is virtually no back-breaking labor involved.

That sounds like my type of job!  8)

Is this true for very oxidized gel-coat? If so, I'm ready to tackle the job. If it involves the type of time and labor I invested last time, I'm a little reluctant to even start.
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2009, 01:10:49 PM »
Carson - I know there's another thread on this, but since we're talking about it here... before you started using your regular applications of Stop Wax, you had your MH finish pretty cleaned up already right?  I know you had the bottom section repainted and the rest as de-oxidized as possible?  It seems that there's always some elbow grease involved in the initial oxidation removal, and after that maybe Stop Wax or a similar product can help the exterior stay nice looking.
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 02:20:58 PM »
Scotty and Richard, let me see if I can cover everything, as I know it.

   The product claims it can be used on any surface. In fact it contains material that is also present in ClearCoat. It contains no silicon, which was a bane of polishes of yore. It fills the pores in oxidized surfaces with a micro-film of the polymer.
   Re preparation: I simply made sure all the surface dirt was washed off first with just water. I hadn't used a typical car wash, with wax in it, for some time, so the surface was quite virgin. Every time you wash with pure water most of the oxidization washes off anyway. If your rig has recently been waxed (beautified)  there will be no need to rush into this project. I simply used a soft brush on a handle to apply the solution following the directions on the bottle. It can also be applied with a sponge (sponge mop).

  When I did mine, I actually missed a section near the top. That spot was highly noticeable after everything dried. Guess that is proof that the stuff is doing the job. Now after many months that spot is still visible. I'll get it next time, and that's in the Florida sunshine.

   I would not hesitate to use it (I have) on any of my cars, no matter how good they look. Best of all, after I did my roof, white streaks are a thing of the past. I think an application once a year should suffice.

Best I can do for now..

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Re: rv exterior shine
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2009, 03:01:08 PM »
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Every time you wash with pure water most of the oxidization washes off anyway.

You and I must be talking about something different with the term "oxidation", Carson. I've never seen it wash off with water.

Polymer-based polishes are widely available - the DriWash N Guard that many RVForum members use is one.
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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2009, 03:56:37 PM »
Good point, Gary  ...  but,

   Water does not restore the surface, just cleans it. When you see milky white stuff coming off, that is oxidized material (That's what causes the streaks when it rains). So it takes the surface stuff off and allows the polymer to penetrate better on what is remaining. That is all I am after.

   I'll bet that my stuff is a lot cheaper than DriWash. it takes 4 ounces per 2 gal pail. That pail will do the whole rig.

   Glad to get a counter-point. Was wondering when that would happen.

Good to hear from you.

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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2009, 04:18:58 PM »
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Water does not restore the surface, just cleans it. When you see milky white stuff coming off, that is oxidized material (That's what causes the streaks when it rains). So it takes the surface stuff off and allows the polymer to penetrate better on what is remaining. That is all I am after.

We are definitely talking about different stuff then. In my experience, the milky stuff on the surface that washes off is usually crud from the roof that has run down the sides. Trust me, actual oxidized fiberglass (or even paint, for that matter) does not simply wash off with water. It is part of the surface and has to be removed with an abrasive compound. Basically it is sanded off, though with a very fine grit polish.
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2009, 06:03:12 PM »
I use this product for my fiberglass trailer and my cars. It is a little pricey, but nothing I have ever used can come close to the protection and durability. For my trailer I use just the "CS", for my vehicles I use the CS on top of the Z2 polish. What I like most is that it does not flash / haze, so no problem with it touching black plastic. As a matter of fact it is recommended for plastics, glass, rubber etc. And it works as advertised. For the trailer, I put one coat in the spring, and one coat in the fall. For the vehicles I put it between the spring and fall application of the Z2 for added protection. Application to the trailer takes about 30 minutes, and I cover everything including glass.
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2009, 07:57:37 AM »
carson, tks for the info and website on lustrelab. I just looked at the product and want to give it a shot. How far will one bottle go, it's $19.95 perbottle and I was thinking about ordering two, to be safe. tks
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2009, 08:58:37 AM »
Hi herd,

   That price is for is for a 32 ounce bottle. The old stuff Stopwax used 4 ounces per 2 gallon of water. I presume that the Lustrelab stuff will be the same or better; it is stronger.

   I pail will do my whole RV easily. That means you could get 8 treatments out of it. Not a bad deal.

The cost is 19.95 plus a shipping charge from the factory. Maybe it is available locally in some areas. They told me that it is not available in stores in my area (zip 34461).

  Go for it.

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