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GEJim

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1000 Trails
« on: March 10, 2007, 07:58:45 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with 1000 Trails campgrounds? I received a free 3 day two night package from them if I go listen to a 90 minute pitch.

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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 08:02:56 PM »
I have no problem taking freebies from parks like 1000 trails. I also have no problem saying "No thanks" when they're done with their presentation. There are forum members who are members of 1000 trails and I'm sure they'll tell you if they like what they've got.

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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 08:07:34 PM »
Personally I recommend staying away from any membership campground even 1000 trails.  Go enjoy the free nights but be sure you are ready to say no to their high pressure sales pitch.  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 08:21:11 PM »
Thousand Trails has something nearly nobody else has... A "Preserve" in Las Vegas NV  (The other one is Oasis which is an RPI park and part of a network that starts with H but alas, I forgot it's name)

I belong to TT, Spent a month at Las vegas park, have spent time in the St. Clair Michigan park.  My rig is a 37 footer and both parks that is streatching it a bit, We have to carefully pick our sites.  That said, both parks are fairly well maintained, no complaints, seems to be a sound company.   I also belong to Michigan Outdoor Adventures, which has only a few parks, all in Michigan and they range from older, "Smaller" parks with a few large open sites to some very nice resorts.

However they are not much help when I go to visit Darling Daughter in Las Vegas.

I have no complaints with them, Seem like a good company
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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2007, 12:16:51 PM »
     I also have a TT membership and I find that if you are looking for a one night stay while on the road they don't work for me as most campgrounds are off the Hwy. to far ,But they work graet for longer stays (They have a on turn away police ) If the park is full they will put you up in an overflow area untill a space comes open.

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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2007, 04:06:49 PM »
Several parks (Resorts of Distinction) now have that poicy (NO turn away)

Gee, you find the preserves too far off the freeway... Well, The one in Las Vegas is perhaps a quarte rmile, The one in St. Clair, Mi is perhaps 100 yards (Freeway boarders) the one near Indio CA is on the service drive.   (Those are the only 3 TT parks I've seen, but then I have not yet started looking for them)  Now Mi-Outdoor adventure... Those you need a map to find.
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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 03:24:54 PM »
We looked into TT, but decided against it mainly because we felt we wouldn't use it enough to justify the cost, especially the annual maintanence cost.  If we were in a better situation where we could actually use them often, we would certainly consider it.  The one we stayed at (near San Antonio, TX) was fantastic.  And from what I hear from others, most, if not all the rest are the same way.  I guess that's what that high membership and annual maintenance cost will get for you.  Right now I am getting more offers for the freebies (even though they said this would be our "one and only chance"!...right!).  I'll take 'em up on it again when my wife joins me.  All you have to do is say no!  Or if you like it and will use it, say yes.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2007, 05:56:42 PM »
Well, as I tell folks... Just spent 3 months out west, I spent a month and a half in Las Vegas where my daughter lives (Wife insists) and the "Month" part was at a TT park.

Parks in Las Vegas run from about 15 to around 60/night, 20-30 being the common range

Figure 28 days at 25/night ($700) and take that right off the top on the membership dues.  Don't leave much, at least not on my plan.
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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2007, 11:44:41 PM »
We belong to TT and are very happy with them.  BUT you have to use the parks.  We did not pay full price for membership but wht we did pay we have more than made up for in our stays.  Yes some are out of the way but what we do it stay at one and look and found all the things we can do in about 50 to 100 miles around.  Cheaper in the car than to move the coach around all the time.  We actually spend the summer last year on the west coast and I think we ended up paying for one week at an RPI the rest of the three months 0.  Like I said you have to use it.  Most parks are in need of some work but for the most part nice.  Usually thigs to do at the park ands lots of folks around to meet and exchange thought with.
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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2007, 01:03:08 AM »
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How much are the MONTHLY maintenance fees at TT?
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 09:11:41 AM »
Depends on when you got your membership and what memebership you got.

They can be as low as 200/year if you have been a member along enough.  I think I pay 750 PER YEAR

Which, as I noted, is not all that much
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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2007, 09:19:46 AM »
Is there an up front cost to join?  Can you negotiate?
Once you pay the $750, how much is it a night?

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2007, 09:38:55 AM »
Well, I just had an interesting "enccounter" with TT over the weekend.  Wherever it is I did something stupid and they got my info, the started calling and wanting to set up a visit.  I told them I was not in a position to do it right now (me and my wife are "separated" at the moment...more about this in a minute).  But they kept bugging me, so I finally acquiesced (sorry, I've always wanted to use that word!).  Anyway, once I said yes, the telemarketer (not salesperson), "went to town".  I couldn't get an edge in wordwise.  I do remember her flying by the part about being married.  I couldn't even tell her that we were separated.  Now, when I say separated, here's the deal.  I had to move to Houston for a job, and since my son only had one year left to graduate HS, my wife is staying in San Antonio with him for that.  Anyway, as much as I tried to let TT know all this, they didn't seem to want to listen.  And as I had to be out in the area anyway, I just made mine a day thing.  So I get there, and the tell me because of some legal mumbo jumbo, they cannot give me a tour (or try and sell me something) until either our divorce is final, or my wife is with me.  Wait, I didn't tell them anything about a divorce.  I tried to explain my situation, but again, they just don't want to listen.  Like Wendy, I have no problem with the "freebies", especially since they told us after the first one (about 2 years ago), that we would never be contacted again...this was our only chance.  Hah!  Anyway, I just guess I'll wait until "we work things out" (i.e., my wife moves down here with me), and wait until they call back.  'Cause they will.  Kinda like death and taxes...it'll happen! 

By the way, from what I could see, the place at Lake Conroe is a beautiful place.  Just wish I could have seen a little more of it.

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2007, 09:45:46 AM »
There are up front fees to join Thousand Trails as there is with any other membership park and these fees can be as high as $5000 or even more.  Then there are the maintenance fees which can run as high as $1000 or more.  Oh and you usually have no control if they decide to raise these fees.  Additionally some have clauses in the contract that is binding and the only way out from under the fees is to get some other sucker to buy your membership.

Personally I strongly recommend against membership park schemes as they are costly and after a short time most become very disappointed in them.  There is a reason you see so many park memberships for sale and sometimes almost a give away by folks wanting to get out from under the annual fees.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2007, 02:09:03 PM »
TT membership, IIRC is a bit less expensive than you suggest Ron, however it is thousands. that I will admit, as for maintance fees, (Hundreds) Well.. I just spent 4 weeks at TT Las Vegas between the months of Dec and Feb and that, when compared to other parking slots, just about takes care of the maintance fee.

They have two levels of membership and may well contact you in a couple of years
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2007, 03:32:46 PM »
Well John my figure were taken from the experience of a friend that against my advice joined TT.  He went to the free visit and attended the high pressure sales pitch which was required as part of the free stay deal.  The reason they bought was they were given a 1000 dollar discount if they bought right then so they ended up paying 5000 which was 1000 off the stated price.  Boy what a deal they thought had but they sure put the membership up for sale within the first year.  No you just can't convince me that campground memberships are a good thing.  But then to each his own.

Now I am not just speaking about TT but the campground membership program in general. 
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Re: 1000 Trails
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2007, 04:58:24 PM »
Are any of the membership campgrounds members of RCI, (Resort Condominiums International)? If so it could be advantageous for those of us associated with the military in any way.

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2007, 06:20:10 PM »
Be very careful of any campground membership. Read the contract very, very carefully. Some of them have a clause that makes you ANDYOUR HEIRS responsible for the maintenance fees.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2007, 06:22:37 PM »
There is a similar concept RPI (Resort Parks International) and IIRC RPI includes condo as well, (I'm not sure it's not affilated with RCI)

You would have to chat with some of the sales types to find out more

But I know I can park in RPI parks, ROD (resorts of Distinction) and Camp Coast to Coast.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2007, 07:24:36 PM »
Are any of the membership campgrounds members of RCI, (Resort Condominiums International)? If so it could be advantageous for those of us associated with the military in any way.

Ed,

What connection does RCI have with the military. Retired AF here and I've never heard of RCI.

Do you use the military FamCamps?
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2007, 08:25:30 PM »
Pay attention to the contract. you will probably see the little word "perpetuity" which essentially means, we got you, your children, their children, and their children's children by the (fill in the blank). The only people that benefit is the big wigs that own the membership franchise. There is no "legal" way to break the contract unless as mentioned, you find some other sucker that doesn't know what "perpetuity" means. They can jack up the yearly fees, impose additional restrictions, etc., and there is not a damn thing you can do about it except grin and bear it. Do I sound bitter .... you betcha. Got "suckered" in on Camp Coast to Coast. Sounded good on the front, but my limited membership only allowed me to use my home resort pool and facilities .... wasn't even supposed to camp there, and could not camp in any of the other CCC resorts either. Finally found a sucker to take it off my hands.

Granted, they have their positives, but it's that little "p" word that makes it to where I will NEVER get a resort membership again and  make sure that anyone I can inform knows what that "p" word signifies. I'll take their freebies, but usually, that doesn't end up working either as when asked to fill out the preliminary paperwork (which also has a field for my SSN), which I refuse to give. They respond that it is needed if I should happen to "win" something (ya, like a free pass for them to dig in my wallet), to which I respond, "If I win, then I will give my SSN, but not before". We usually get 'uninvited' at that point.

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2007, 08:43:20 AM »
Ed,

What connection does RCI have with the military. Retired AF here and I've never heard of RCI.

Do you use the military FamCamps?

Alaskans,

I believe he is referring to the Armed Forces Vacation Club  AFVClubhttp://www.afvclub.com/.

It is a deal between the DoD and RCI where they have access to uppity resorts for a very low cost.  Very good deal.  He used the heck out of it.  It has its limitations, but if you're free and open to where you want to go, it can be a super good deal.  Available to all DoD (active duty and retired) and affiliated personnel.  Check out the website.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2007, 10:54:40 AM »
      My dues were frosen when I turned 60 and they will never be more then they are today, Both of my kids have a family cards that cost only 26.00 a year. But like they have said if you don't use it , it's a wast of your money.

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 12:32:55 AM »
Alaskans,

I believe he is referring to the Armed Forces Vacation Club  AFVClubhttp://www.afvclub.com/.

It is a deal between the DoD and RCI where they have access to uppity resorts for a very low cost.  Very good deal.  He used the heck out of it.  It has its limitations, but if you're free and open to where you want to go, it can be a super good deal.  Available to all DoD (active duty and retired) and affiliated personnel.  Check out the website.

Thanks for the info. I hadn't heard of the AFVC. Will have to spend some time on that web site. Looks very interesting.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 05:22:34 AM »
Since I started this post, I guess I will try to answer some of the questions.
After visiting TT in Texas we decided to join. Cost up front is around $5000, dues are $399 a year. For that cost you get free stays at any TT resorts (75 total resorts), $8 a night at any RPI resort (200-300 resorts), and 50% off any Enjoy America resorts (300-400). Between the three that encompasses most camping areas in the US and Canada plus a few in Mexico. Plus you get Preferred Access condos at reduced cost. This is very much like RCI. They are available all over the world.
After comparing the atlas to the camping sites available we covered every place we plan to travel.
Is it a good deal, don't know. Ask me in a year or two. Right now it was to good to pass up.

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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2007, 08:43:38 AM »
I paid/pay a bit less than you did, however I got some discounts for it being my 2nd membership (The first is elsewhere) and the total of the two together is right close to what you paid.

As I said, I spent 28 days in the CG at Las Vegas,  You can find parking there for under 20 bucks a night but not much of it,  Most of the parking is 30 to Well, I've paid over sixty for a night's parking for the rig. 

20 times 28 = 560.   when I subtract 560 from 399 (your dues) I get.. .  SAVINGS (161 in savings) IF I don't use any other park this year, I already have savings.  IF I visit any other TT park, the savings go UP UP UP
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2007, 09:02:51 AM »

20 times 28 = 560.   when I subtract 560 from 399 (your dues) I get.. .  SAVINGS (161 in savings) IF I don't use any other park this year, I already have savings.  IF I visit any other TT park, the savings go UP UP UP

John

Hmmm, lets see. $5000 initiation fee divided by $161 savings means it will take 31 years to get UP UP UP to your investment. But $5,000 left in a 5% savings account will grow to over $22,000 in 31 years or pay you $250 a year, more than your annual savings and you still have your $5,000.
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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2007, 09:40:11 AM »
You have my sympathy. :D
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2007, 11:28:28 AM »
Or to look at it a different way:

Assume that you will use the membership for 20 years (could be more, could be less depending on your age but 20 years is a reasonable length of time and may even be longer than most folks would use it). $5000 divided by 20 years is $250 per year. Add that to your $399 annual dues and you have a total annual cost of $649. Divide that by an average of $20/night (and I think most of us actually average less than that) and you need to use a FREE membership campground (there are 75 of those) 33 nights in order to break even. If you're going to use those 75 campgrounds for more than 33 nights a year for 20 years, it MAY be a good deal.

And, of course, none of this considers that those annual dues are payable FOREVER by you and your heirs. Or takes into account the $$ you could be making by sticking that $5000 in a CD. Or that the value of the membership is NEVER going to go up but is, almost certainly, going to go down.

But if it works for you, as it apparently does for John, congratulations.

Wendy


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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2007, 01:03:20 PM »
John

Hmmm, lets see. $5000 initiation fee divided by $161 savings means it will take 31 years to get UP UP UP to your investment. But $5,000 left in a 5% savings account will grow to over $22,000 in 31 years or pay you $250 a year, more than your annual savings and you still have your $5,000.

Good math Bernie however the flaw in it is I did not post the price I paid, and I only posted savings based on use of ONE PARK, I have also stayed at other TT parks (This adds to the savings) and paid considerable less than 5,000 since that price includes a lot of things I did not get from TT like Camp Coast 2 Coast membership and RPI membership and the like.

And should I stay again at the Oasis park, if I don't mind a back in site instead of a pull through ( save over fifty dollars a night with RPI (Which I get via another lower cost membership) and I stay at other coast 2 coast parks for a few dollars a night. 

The long and short of it is pay back will be less than five years... That is for me, based on my current life style

Now when I go full time , that pay back gets a lot faster
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