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Isaac-1 said:
To follow this line of thought, we just returned from a 3 week long trip to Arkansas, and I was amazed at the number of mid sized solar installations that have popped up there in just the last 4-6 years since we last drove many of those same roads. Arkansas does not strike me as a hotbed of solar farm activity, yet we saw several mid size solar arrays on this trip, drive over a hill or around a curve and suddenly there was a hillside covered with solar panels, ranging from perhaps 2 acres to perhaps 20 acres in size. This was something new, something I have not seen on previous trips, this mid size opportunistic solar installation on a random hillside where most modern solar installations I have seen seem to be done on more massive industrial scale (we have a 200 megawatt, 1,900+ acre solar farm being built about 10 miles south of my house in western Louisiana).
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About 2/3 of the parking at the VA hospital in downtown Little Rock is covered by solar panels. Keeps the car nice and cool when your appointment is mid-July or August.
 
I can't help but wonder where this is all going:

China currently manufactures and supplies more than 80 per cent of the globe's solar photovoltaic (PV) panels, ... China will be responsible for 95 per cent of the entire manufacturing process by 2025

The top three wind generator manufacturers are not in the U.S. China can't build coal plants fast enough to power their industry. I'm not sure how we grow our own economy and security in the quest to be "green" when we're sending all our wealth to other countries, especially those that hate the U.S.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 
Mark_K5LXP said:
I can't help but wonder where this is all going:

China currently manufactures and supplies more than 80 per cent of the globe's solar photovoltaic (PV) panels, ... China will be responsible for 95 per cent of the entire manufacturing process by 2025

The top three wind generator manufacturers are not in the U.S. China can't build coal plants fast enough to power their industry. I'm not sure how we grow our own economy and security in the quest to be "green" when we're sending all our wealth to other countries, especially those that hate the U.S.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
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That sums things up as good as you can as to where we are these days. But none of our leaders listen as they support foreign businesses when they forcefully modify our energy policies. Its okay to buy and burn foreign oil thats pumped overseas from enemies of this country, but not good for us to increase permits on our own lands.

The boot is on the necks of our energy companies no matter how many times we hear about the leases. There needs to be a friendly incentive, since we do not have the infrastructure and the equipment to provide our current energy needs for operating our businesses and even heat our homes without punitive prices generated by unfriendly policies.
 
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Mark_K5LXP said:
I can't help but wonder where this is all going:

China currently manufactures and supplies more than 80 per cent of the globe's solar photovoltaic (PV) panels, ... China will be responsible for 95 per cent of the entire manufacturing process by 2025

The top three wind generator manufacturers are not in the U.S. China can't build coal plants fast enough to power their industry. I'm not sure how we grow our own economy and security in the quest to be "green" when we're sending all our wealth to other countries, especially those that hate the U.S.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
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Well, where has it been going the last 50 years? We as Americans are to blame, and it’s because we, collectively, have appetites for cheap goods and can’t/aren’t willing to pay the true cost of goods manufactured in our own country, including oil.
 
uchu said:
I guess a real issue will be, as EVs become more ubiquitous, how to tackle the fire hazard caused by flooded EVs, as it's happening in Florida after Ian:

www.roadandtrack.com

Teslas Flooded During Hurricane Ian Are Spontaneously Igniting in its Aftermath

Authorities say the sal****er corroded the batteries, causing fires that often re-ignite themselves after being extinguished.
www.roadandtrack.com www.roadandtrack.com
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They will probably tell you that once all the ICE vehicles are off the road there will not be any more floods....
 
uchu said:
guess a real issue will be, as EVs become more ubiquitous, how to tackle the fire hazard caused by flooded EVs, as it's happening in Florida after Ian:
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It happened to four Teslas out of how many that were flooded?

Florida is the state with the most EVs other than CA. Florida has around 100,000 EVs.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Oldgator73 said:
What ICE vehicle was it that was famous for exploding when rear ended; I guess it wasn’t a big deal unless you were in one that was rear ended. You know ICE vehicles like the Pontiac Fiero and Ford Pinto.
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It would have been a huge deal. Then again they don't still make those cars and they do not make cars with those design flaws. Are they correcting all the EV's so this does not happen to them?
 
Babe2201 said:
It would have been a huge deal. Then again they don't still make those cars and they do not make cars with those design flaws. Are they correcting all the EV's so this does not happen to them?
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I am not privy to the EV manufacturers corporate goings on. But how long were these cars that burst into flame on the market. And the ICE cars that did burst into flame were most likely occupied with humans that were either horribly injured or suffered an excruciating death. The article provided does not mention any injuries or deaths attributed to the Tesla’s catching fire.
 
Oldgator73 said:
I am not privy to the EV manufacturers corporate goings on. But how long were these cars that burst into flame on the market. And the ICE cars that did burst into flame were most likely occupied with humans that were either horribly injured or suffered an excruciating death. The article provided does not mention any injuries or deaths attributed to the Tesla’s catching fire.
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So everything is perfect then right?
 
ICV manufacturers Hyundai/Kia and Ford have recalled almost a half million vehicles in the last year due to risk of fires. 4 Teslas involved in a hurricane are kind of inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

www.usatoday.com

Ford recalls 200,000 Expedition and Navigator SUVs due to fire risk

The automaker announced the recall on Ford Expeditions and Lincoln Navigators after learning their heating and cooling fan motors can catch fire.
www.usatoday.com

www.nbcnews.com

More than 280,000 Hyundai and Kia vehicles are recalled over fears they could catch on fire if parked inside

The automakers reported 25 fires or melting incidents in the U.S. and Canada caused by the problem, but no crashes or injuries.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
DonTom said:
Maybe, if you let it sit in the sun for a few months at a time and then drive a few miles and let it sit in the sun for a few more months each time.

-Don- SS SRA, CA
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Now you're being critical of EV's. As you have said many times, EV' are improving rapidly as technology advances. Apparently German engineers have beaten all other countries to actually producing an all-electric MH.
Too bad that website omitted any details of the MH.
 
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