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Well, take it up with the manufacturers. Insist that they keep making gas cars regardless of the marketplace. While you are at it get them to bring back carburetors.

Or just buy a 3/4 ton truck or SUV. They are aren’t affected by any mandates.
Why would I want carburetors back. FI is more efficient.

What if I don't want a 3/4 ton vehicle?

I don't think it will be long before the manufacturers wake up and see that there will still be a huge demand for ICE vehicles and they will continue to make them unless the government interferes.
 
Why would I want carburetors back. FI is more efficient.

What if I don't want a 3/4 ton vehicle?

I don't think it will be long before the manufacturers wake up and see that there will still be a huge demand for ICE vehicles and they will continue to make them unless the government interferes.
Maybe. Who knows. But it comes down to the electorate. That’s why we have drinkable water, and air we can’t see. If you are opposed to those things then vote accordingly.

Entire towns in Europe have voted to not let any vehicle with tail pipes into their towns (or parts of certain cities). Not every body agreed. But enough to make it happen. And from personal experience they are amazing to walk around in. Quiet, no fumes.

I’m sure you’ll be able to find places where you’ll be able to drive a gasser. Chin up. 👍
 
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. As far as the certain people pay a little attention and you will see.
In other words you don't know who these people are. You sure lead a miserable life worrying about something that might happen 10 to 20 years from now in a state you don't live in. I have been paying attention and I see nothing to worry about. Every thing you post is so negative. I feel sorry for you. You seem so upset because not everyone wants to smell the dirty exhaust of your ICE vehicle.
 
No one is mandating one must buy an EV. The option will be to buy whatever is for sale with the option of not buying anything. Much like the vaccine mandate, one didn't have to get the jab if you didn't need to keep your job, see a movie or eat at some restaurants. Transportation is not a right, you get what you get, make it work. Or the ultimate prediction of the WEF, you'll own nothing and be happy. Practically speaking, if by 2035 EV's have supplanted ICE and are practical equivalents, then you roll with it. The dynamics of fueling EV's change which is a separate discussion but those are anticipated, learned and accommodated in some way (maybe not YOUR way but this isn't about you). Even with ICE, car owners don't make the parts, refine the fuel and fluids and pave the roads. We're all just operators with our own micro-economy to manage, and what we drive is just a component of that. Make it work in spite of the politics, marketing and revenue. Consider the light bulb. It was a train wreck when compact fluorescents came out but anymore LED lights are every bit as good as incandescent, and overall more economical to run. So it's not like a disruptive technology has to be all bad. I'm guessing that demand for incandescent bulbs will relegate them to niche applications not because of Bush's mandate (er, restriction) but because there's little practical use for them. Time will tell if EV's are the "answer", today it's all just posturing and lining up to be in the right trough as government regulations come down. By the time the mandate date comes around, the world will be a different place than today and any extreme aberration will correct. Frankly I prefer my electric tools to gasoline ones by a long shot. The only thing that needs improvement is the batteries. They're pretty good now, and maybe at some point they'll equal or exceed recovered energy density of gas. One has no more personal control over the flow of gasoline in the market as kWh, so ultimately the fuel type of our vehicles matters little.

Something I think about is looking at past technologies. I used to take pictures with a film camera then go through a fairly arduous chemical and mechanical process to generate a single image. Now the image capturing process is upstream of that in the form of complicated semiconductors and precision optics, but at the end of the day my life is better for it. Farmers used to have to maintain a stable of horses to plow fields and harvest crops. The first mechanized tractors ran on steam. Imagine getting one of those going on a cold fall morning. I think about a generation or two ahead of us that may see gas cars in old movies and how foreign it would seem to put stinky liquid into your car and burn it in real time to move down the road. Even in my lifetime, working on carburetors and adjusting timing was something you had to do, but not something I've done in literally decades now. My life is better with advancing technology. I gave away my record collection and even my CD's now are gathering dust. My entire music collection fits on a micro SD card the size of my pinky nail. I get that you don't want to be told what you're going to get or get nothing, but in the grand scheme if my car was electric I would make it work (and I did for the 10 years I drove one).

I think the rare earth elements in lithium batteries will limit acceptance/deployment of EV's short term, and there will need to be a carbon fuel alternative at least until a more sustainable battery is figured out. Maybe it won't be gasoline anymore but some other refined fuel that's "cleaner". Imagine a fuel where the carbon can be sequestered at the refinery and the exhaust is relatively inert (hydrogen fits this bill but has storage, distribution and generation issues). The good news is there's over a century of combustion engine development to draw from so once it's figured out what the roadmap is, the solution will end up in the consumer space fairly quickly.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 
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Tire wear is a source of air pollution. The heavier the vehicle the more tire and road wear. I can see EV's becoming lighter with smaller battery capacity.

57 miles appears to be just enough range to get people where they need to go within their city. Installing an acceleration governor to keep the tire wear to a minimum, say 0 to 60 back to the days of 17.4 seconds should help reduce tire pollution too. Reducing the speed limit back to 55 MPH should help conserve enough energy for a 1 hour drive for 55 miles plus a 2 mile surplus to find a recharger.



 
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I am sure glad that NASA, in the early 60s, did not hire anyone like the EV naysayers of today "to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade," because had they done so, their answer would have been that we dont have the technology to put a man on the moon, so therefore it is impossible, and we should drop the whole program.
 
In other words you don't know who these people are. You sure lead a miserable life worrying about something that might happen 10 to 20 years from now in a state you don't live in. I have been paying attention and I see nothing to worry about. Every thing you post is so negative. I feel sorry for you. You seem so upset because not everyone wants to smell the dirty exhaust of your ICE vehicle.
I know who they are. Our president being one of them.
 
You are right at the moment there is not. I will wait for you to sell your ICE vehicles and use horse as your sole transportation.
Why would we sell our ICE vehicles? Besides, we live in Delaware. There has not been in any indication that ICE vehicles will be phased out here. I’m 72 so don’t have that many years left to drive. And, unlike you, we are not alarmists. We don’t run around with our hair on fire worrying about things that haven’t happened and things we can’t do anything about.
 
There is nothing but "the real world", and we're all in it. Technology has a history of moving around and leaving behind people who are unwilling to embrace it.

I remember when leaded gasoline finally winked out. LOL
 
I don't embrace the proposed 675 feet tall wind generators in our backyard. I remember when rural regions were valued for their scenic beauty versus industrialized.
 
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...In your back yard? Or on land that doesn't belong to you?

I'd wager to bet a lot of communities don't enjoy oil companies fracking near them, either. Or when refineries were put up near where people live. It's all unfortunate.
 
...In your back yard? Or on land that doesn't belong to you?

I'd wager to bet a lot of communities don't enjoy oil companies fracking near them, either. Or when refineries were put up near where people live. It's all unfortunate.
Not to mention tops of mountains blown off to get to the coal and folks screwed out of their homesteads after generations have lived on the land (for the coal).
 
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