A lot more EV sales coming to CA if

Why would I buy a Tesla? It does nothing that I want or need. I do own some Tesla stock however.
That's one reason right there. You must have lost a ton on money on Tesla stock if you had it for a while. But if you got it at the low a few months ago, I expect you will do well.

But these days, I do not invest in anything that I cannot put my hands on.

And after watching Forensic Justice which has a very long series on BIG money investment rip-offs, I feel I am doing the right thing. But the one that pisses me off the most is the one where one woman embezzled everybody's retirement money.

I just tried to find that one on the web, as all the people there who retired had to go back to work. But big money investment scams are so common, I couldn't even find it. "Excessive means the same as insuffient". (Chinese proverb).

But here are the top ten.

FWIW, my cheaper Chevy Bolt fits my needs better than my Tesla. But if I did long trips via car, it would be vice versa.

If I only had what I need, there goes most of what I own.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
That's one reason right there. You must have lost a ton on money on Tesla stock if you had it for a while. But if you got it at the low a few months ago, I expect you will do well.

Bought it a few months ago. Done reasonably well so far. That's still not a reason to buy a Tesla.
 
But I assume you don't want or need another car--just like me.

Or another motorcycle . . . .

-Don- Reno, NV
Sold off the bike some years ago. Traded in my wife's car after she died and bought the current one. I'm set for vehicles. 'Ceptin I'm looking at a new RV. Travel trailer.
 
Sold off the bike some years ago. Traded in my wife's car after she died and bought the current one. I'm set for vehicles. 'Ceptin I'm looking at a new RV. Travel trailer.
I am not looking for anything at all.

I am not sure is that is a good thing or not.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Gas would be cheaper than electric..
Good Grief Don--You have an ENTIRE EV section all for you---But you still insist on dragging all your useless EV electricity, DCFC, KW, etc info here too. Give it a break.
Good Grief Berby6--You have an ENTIRE ICV section all for you---But you still insist on dragging all your useless gas vehicle info here too (into the EV section). Give it a break.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Good Grief Berby6--You have an ENTIRE ICV section all for you---But you still insist on dragging all your useless gas vehicle info here too (into the EV section). Give it a break.

-Don- Reno, NV
#1 I quoted what the article you posted said "Gas would be cheaper than electric"
#2 There is no ICV section
 
This happens.


  • "CA Gas Could Hit $8.44 per Gallon in 2026 Due to Refinery Closures, Regulations"
And more EV charge stations too! Paid for by the polluting oil companies!

However, expect to pay more for charging your EV in CA too.



-Don- Auburn, CA
Yep, that was the governors choice to close fuel refineries, and purposely inflate liquid fuel prices. Dig into who actually controls the creation of electricity pyramid of companies. Years ago I read that some oil companies are heavily-invested in the electricity generation..
 
Years ago I read that some oil companies are heavily-invested in the electricity generation..
Yes, and I think it works well for the local gas stations. Many of the larger ones now have chargers or soon will have, such as the Pilot station I used yesterday. Those waiting for a charge to finish, takes more time than fueling up. But sometimes seems like less hassle than waiting for cars at the pumps at a busy station. The norm is to just drive up to the charge stations with no wait (but a few areas in CA are exceptions to that, such as very busy Silicon Valley where it seems almost every car is EV).

Anyway, that usually means those charging go into the store-and not in a hurry--that is where most gas stations make their most money.

Yeah, some oil companies realize the need for gasoline & oil will be less over the years and they will need other investments.

Yep, that was the governors choice to close fuel refineries, and purposely inflate liquid fuel prices.
Which also affects here in Reno:

" the vast majority of gasoline in Reno, NV, comes from California. Approximately 88% of Nevada's total gasoline and 100% of the Reno market is supplied by refineries in the San Francisco Bay Area via the Kinder Morgan SFPP North Line pipeline. "

This is why the gasoline in eastern NV is more than a buck cheaper:

"Gasoline in eastern Nevada primarily comes from Utah via the UNEV pipeline, which carries about 15% of Nevada’s total fuel and serves parts of eastern Nevada."

However, a home charge for an EV in Reno is MUCH cheaper than most parts of CA which has PG&E. Here in Reno, NV Energy is the electric company.

PG& E has a lot of bills and lawsuits to pay off because of the fires started by them. They are now moving many power lines underground as they trim tress and more.

BTW, I wonder how much faster the gasoline price would raise if there were no EVs. And they would probably do the same BS as in the late 1970's and have the mile long gas lines and back to a 55 MPH nationwide max speed law.

One nice thing about living in an expensive area is that gas seems dirt cheap no matter where I drive my RV to. I just need to have enough gas in it to get well past CA and Reno ($5.50 per gallon here). The 80 gallon tank in my Class A means I can fill up where the gasoline is cheaper. 50 gallons in my Class C.

Fernley is cheaper for gasoline but more expensive for diesel than here in Reno. I know Reno has a local tax on gasoline, perhaps a lot less in Fernley.

"Reno, Nevada has a local gasoline tax that is part of the highest fuel tax structure in the state. The Regional Transportation Commission (RTC-5) tax is currently approximately 43 cents per gallon (specifically $0.4379 as of July 2022) and is subject to annual inflation adjustments approved by voters in 2008.

In addition to the RTC tax, Washoe County residents pay local county taxes of roughly 11 cents per gallon, which are distributed to the cities of Reno, Sparks, and the county for road maintenance. When combined with the Nevada state excise tax (approx. 23.8 cents), cleanup fees, and federal taxes, local levies account for nearly 60 to 70 cents of the total price per gallon. "


-Don- Reno, NV
 
Yep, that was the governors choice to close fuel refineries, and purposely inflate liquid fuel prices. Dig into who actually controls the creation of electricity pyramid of companies. Years ago I read that some oil companies are heavily-invested in the electricity generation..
The company I worked for had several plants in CA and I spent a lot of time there since 1992. I spent a lot of time all over the US. The most amazing part is the people of CA don't seem to realize they are getting ripped off. Pretty much the whole west coast and to a lessor degree the east coast.

Their standard of living has been eroding fast for decades. They are buying the same house their grandparents built for $15k in 1960 for $700K. But inflation would only make it worth $166K today. There are millions of empty acres in CA so it isn't limited land availability.

You would think the taxation alone would raise red flags but nope, they don't see it. 13.3% income tax in CA but 0% in TX? I hope the people moving from CA to TX are not the same blind sheep who just follow the leader or they will ruin TX.
 
They are buying the same house their grandparents built for $15k in 1960 for $700K. But inflation would only make it worth $166K today. There are millions of empty acres in CA so it isn't limited land availability.

You would think the taxation alone would raise red flags but nope, they don't see it.
Work in CA, make a great salary in the tech and other fields. Pay a ton of money for your house, taxes, etc. and when it is time to retire sell your house for a huge profit and move out of the state and live like a king for the rest of your life.

That is what many Californians see, including me. Owning a house in CA, but mostly living here in NV, means I pay no CA state income tax. And NV has no state income tax.

There are reasons why CA is the most populated state in the country. Just play the game correctly and make a huge profit.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Work in CA, make a great salary in the tech and other fields. Pay a ton of money for your house, taxes, etc. and when it is time to retire sell your house for a huge profit and move out of the state and live like a king for the rest of your life.

-Don- Reno, NV
But if you raise a family in CA you'll be moving away from them. Friends and even spouses come and go. Especially as you get older. Family is forever. I suspect many full timers on this forum have no family. But if there is a chance for them to get back together with their family I hope they do.

My dad lived to be 93. My mother passed away 5 years before. All of his friends passed away, he made new friends, and they all passed away. Without his children he would have died alone.

I'd rather live like a pauper then a lonely king.
 

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