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If you're referring to the thread "A Day of Celebration" it's been locked because it was deteriorating into a political discussion.
 
Mike is correct, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, given that both Carl and I asked that the discussion not degenerate into political opinion.
 
Many of us appreciate your vigilance very much, Tom.  Political and religious comments belong on other more appropriate forums.  Thanks for keeping this forum a very friendly place.

Margi
 
A touchy topic for sure. Please not that no political party was mentioned in any of the post, no names were mentioned, no harsh language occurred, just a few mild opinions from a few ordinary concerned citizens.

Oh well.....
 
I'm just sorry my feudal attempt at humor failed and was apparently misunderstood.  Oh well, story of my life.
 
Don't recall specifically, but visual and vocal aspects are so critical to communication, that attempts at humor on fourms frequently are misunderstood.  Hence the use of emoticons.  That said, a deaf mute that relied on braille could read between the lines of a few of these posts.

Good job guys.  I've seen forums bite the dust that didn't keep the players in the opposite corners.       
 
I'm certainly not sorry for my post there. It was just my opinion, and in an earlier post in the same thread, Tom said. "feel free to comment", and since the OP was a political comment, I was under the impression that the First Amendment would prevail for all, since it did for the OP.

"Everyone is free to comment or not  ;)"
 
Last time I checked, this is a private forum and as such the First Amendment does not apply.

All we ask is for folks to respect our forum Rules that we all accepted as a condition of registering for an account here.
 
I don't always agree with the moderators or anyone else for that matter.  But I do believe this forum is the best monitored and maintained of any of the forums I read daily. 
 
Tom,

Did you or did you not make the first post, which was highly political if you happen to not agree that it was great day? Further, did you not say "free to comment or not"? I completely understand regarding the First Amendment. However, I don't think what you did was fair, and by that I mean, posting a political statement, asking for comments, and then locking the thread when there was a hint of disagreement.

It would be nice to get your thoughts on the above.

 
Did you or did you not make the first post, which was highly political ...

Eh? What's "highly political" about my message?


Today was, or should have been, a special day for us all, on two counts. This is the day when we put politics aside and respect the "peaceful transfer of power/office", although this was a 2-term President. I was out most of the day, but I watched the "official" oaths being administered yesterday, and watched the "ceremonial" oaths being administered today. I've also watched parts of today's events via DVR, with lots more to watch.

I felt for the singers on this cold day in DC. Kelly Clarkson did a credible, but very restrained job. Beyonce did a good, albeit somewhat controlled, job of delivering our national anthem.

Lest we forget, today was also Martin Luther King Day. Google celebrated the day with a special Google doodle.


I've never revealed my political position(s) in this forum in the 20 years we've been around, and I've consciously avoided commenting on anyone else's political position/opinion. So I'm flabbergasted at the suggestion that I would post a "highly political" message.

....I don't think what you did was fair, and by that I mean, posting a political statement, asking for comments, and then locking the thread when there was a hint of disagreement.

I sure didn't post a "political statement", and there was nothing in that first message to disagree with, unless you disagree with the basic process of inaugurating our "new" president every 4 years.

With due respect, I suggest you re-read this topic from the beginning. I guess my mistake was to respond to donn's "no comment" reply with "Everyone is free to comment or not". It never occurred to me that anyone would interpret that as an invitation to turn this joyous event for our country into something that wasn't intended when I posted.

Bottom line is that, if someone is looking for political discussion or a fight, this is not the right forum them; There are numerous alternative forums on the internet for either of those purposes.

Hopefully we get to meet in person one day, and you get a better understanding of who runs this forum. Meanwhile, you'll have to make do with the folks who've met me, some of whom have been good friends for many years.

It would be nice to get your thoughts on the above.

Hope I didn't disappoint  ;D
 
Tom, FWIW - I did not see anything political in your posting.  I thought it was an appropriate posting for the time.
 
I am the guy who made the original call, so let me explain my reasoning. 

What we are trying to avoid is partisan and adversarial politics.  The original post, Tom's, celebrated the peaceful and orderly transfer of power in a democratic republic -  one the oldest such states in the world and certainly the largest.    Political but political at a level above partisan -- the level of governance to get academic about it.  Tom was celebrating the USA for handling the matter as well as it does, and did. 

Folks then commented in agreement but expressed the thought that the results of the process could have been better.  Certainly one could argue that.  However, that was precisely the problem -- arguing the election all over again and in a forum dedicated to recreational vehicles.  I then let the posts stand and tried issuing a warning -- in soccer terminology, I issued a yellow card.  Lo and behold, things started to unravel and Tom, rightly, locked the topic.

I used to administer a old Compuserve political forum as the #2 wizop.  This was of all things a British political forum.  I am thoroughly American, the #1 wizop was a Scot.  Refereeing a British political forum is like refereeing the lion cage at feeding time.  Brits regard politicial debate as a blood sport to be won at all costs.  (There are standards but that is another discussion.)    In any event  I have seen what online partisan political acrimony is and prefer it confined to gladitorial arenas like the old UKCA forum.

Let us resolve to keep RVForum partisanship to Ford v. General Motors v. Dodge, and TT v. 5th wheel.  Surely, that is enought heat for folks who wander around the landscape in housing on wheels.
 
Thanks Tom. This one sure had me scratching my head.

Being from the olde country, when we went through the naturalization process (5+ years), we got a 'compressed' course on the history of our great nation, the Constitution, Federal, state and local laws, in addition to all levels of government. We still treasure our "Welcome to the USA" letters from then-President Reagan; I believe we'd equally treasure those letters if they were signed by any serving U.S. President.

The naturalization ceremony, conducted by a Federal judge, was also something we remember very well; The last comment from the judge was "be sure to use your newly-acquired constitutional right to vote", which we've religiously done.

The inauguration is something we watch every 4 years, and it's personally an emotional event, irrespective who is being sworn in. Letting out a secret, I always sing along with the national anthem, or at least the playback.

I'm wondering if we missed something in our compressed course  ???
 
Thanks Carl, you explained that far better and more concisely than I could.

Refereeing a British political forum is like refereeing the lion cage at feeding time.

That had tears rolling down my cheeks, but I hasten to add they were 'tears of laughter'.
 

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