Gene Any of the 4 you've listed are very fine coaches and I doubt very much if you'd go wrong with any of them. Might I suggest you add one to the mix that being the American Coach products, Tradition, Dream, and Eagle. In the past year I came real close to purchasing an American Dream and I've recently looked very strong at the Tiffin, Allegro. Those 2 would be my personal choices, however as previously stated, All are great units. Yes, many here on the forum prefer factory delivery and service when possible, The techs there deal with things on individual basis and the same things constantly whereas, dealerships tinker on a variety of things on different units. As the old saying goes, Dealerships mechs are jacks of all trades and master of none. Besides if they were any good the factories would recruit them or they goes into business on their own and then their ruination begins. Just my observation of the situation of many years RVing. Good luck on your choices and as you've exhibited here, don't be afraid to ask questions of this very knowledgeable group.