Cold weather dry camping?

abw2390

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I'm fairly new to rving and I have a 2004 Forrest River class c with the Artic pack. With that much said, I think the artic pack adds heaters to holding tanks. I'm wanting to go to Arkansas to duck hunt in Jan. (cold). I will be dry camping with no hookups. I want to be able to camp comfortably and be able to use water/shower.
What are my options here?
Is it too cold there to dry camp with Rv?
Do I just need to winterize system and not use water?
I can't run water it will empty tank too fast so that's not an option. Need some good advice. Don't want to freeze water lines and such. I camp with my family quite a bit during summer months. They would not be happy with me if I screwed up the RV.
 
How cold does it get there?  Bring a generator, skirt the trailer with something temporarily, and run a small heater under it.  It's doable....question is if it's worth the trouble.
 
High around upper 40's to 50 and lows in the 20's to low 30's according to avg. central Ark. temps. on web.
 
Go in with full propane tanks. Take a generator along if you don't already have one. Remember that if you use the furnace, it will suck up your batteries. Go to bed at night with lots of blankets and turn the furnace way down.
 
I have a 4000 watt onan on board and a 2000 watt yamaha I carry for backup. Thank you for your comment but I'm not worried about getting cold really just the water system.
 
abw2390 said:
I have a 4000 watt onan on board and a 2000 watt yamaha I carry for backup. Thank you for your comment but I'm not worried about getting cold really just the water system.

High 20's to low 30's at night it won't freeze up solid and break anything.  10 degrees colder than that, and you will run into issues. 
 
You will go through a LOT of propane at those temperatures, but it's not too bad in terms of freeze risk. It takes several hours below freezing to freeze RV plumbing, and probably longer if the interior heat is on. And your tanks are (hopefully) protected by the arctic package. There are, however, some things to watch out for:

1) Your waste dump valves are almost surely exposed and uninsulated, so either wrap them with insulation or pour some RV antifreeze in the holding tanks.
2) If the fridge has an ice maker, the water line & control valve are located externally and exposed to icy air via the outside access door. If the fridge is running it should be warm back there, but if it cycles off for a couple hours the valve could freeze.
 
We have found that if we're not cold in the RV, then the water system is ok. We've been in 8 below night temps without any water system issues. We did, however, have problems with the furnace quitting. If you're really concerned, winterize the coach and take bottles of water along to us for rinsing the toilet and washing dishes.

Wendy
 
x2 on the water jugs. Our shower turns into the water jug storage area during winter trips. We also use anti-freeze in the tanks.
 
If the Yamaha generator is one of the quiet ones that sips gas you may want to run it to keep your batteries charged over night and to run a small space heater to augment your propane heater, it will also help keeping the tanks from freezing too.  Nothing worse the waking up to dead batteries that died over night trying to keep you warm.
 
Like myself I got a Jayco that suppose to be 4 season ready. (Covered tanks) But after looking at what I got for covered tanks I'm not impressed.

But it not worth the risk of getting out there camping and have something go wrong and freeze up the plumbing for so I'll tend to agree with most to winterize and bring the water jugs along. That way nothing can go wrong.
 
You should be fine really.
We camp at high altitude in a non 4 season trailer and see lows in the 20s spring and fall. It warms to above freezing during the day and we have not frozen up yet.
 
We just drycamped Saturday night at 5000ft and the temp around midnight was 25 degrees. I ran the heater in the MH through the night but the battery did die around 4am so I had to start the engine to get the heater to work again and charge the battery. We had 1/3 tank of water in the tanks for flushing and washing hands and we had no problems.

Josh
 
I agree with all these folks recommendations but very concerned about the number of times the battery died from running the furnace fan overnight.  Every time you drain the battery below 50% you shorten its life expectancy.  Precautions should be in place to recharge the battery at 50% during the night.  Either set an alarm for the middle of the night to recharge the battery or sleep with the small quiet portable generator running.  I and your batteries thank you.
 
Just got back home from dry camping in my TT.  Down into the 20's at night out in the woods.  Not sure about Arkansas weather in Jan., but if I were you I would Winterize and not take the chance.  Pouring a warm bottle of water over your head is not going to be as important as heating the the place if cold.  I would focus more on protecting your RV. Then devising ways to accommodate taking showers, cleaning up, washing dishes, etc.
After that, you would be better off with additional fuel for the genny, propane for the furnace, whatever you are going to need to stay warm when not hunting.  In a warm RV, you can always refresh the traps with the pink stuff.  That is what I do.   

Bottled water works well for me. You get used to how much to use depending on how long the stay.  The nice thing is come Spring when you open the RV, no leaks and you are ready to go for the camping season. 

 
abw2390 said:
I'm fairly new to rving and I have a 2004 Forrest River class c with the Artic pack. With that much said, I think the artic pack adds heaters to holding tanks. I'm wanting to go to Arkansas to duck hunt in Jan. (cold). I will be dry camping with no hookups. I want to be able to camp comfortably and be able to use water/shower.

Sounds like a fun trip.  Rural Arkansas is beautiful any time of the year.

What are my options here?

The two choices are either to leave the rig winterized and use portable containers for water, or to take measures to be sure nothing freezes.

Is it too cold there to dry camp with Rv?

Probably not, although it depends exactly where you're going and what kind of weather you get.  It's easy to winter camp when it gets into the 30s and 40s during the day, and down into the 20s at night.  If you get a cold snap and have temps in the single digits at night and below freezing during the day, then there are more things that can go wrong.

Do I just need to winterize system and not use water?

That is one choice.

I can't run water it will empty tank too fast so that's not an option. Need some good advice. Don't want to freeze water lines and such. I camp with my family quite a bit during summer months. They would not be happy with me if I screwed up the RV.

I don't know much about your RV in particular but if you have enclosed tanks and dump valves then you should be fine as long as you keep the heat on.  If the tanks aren't enclosed you're probably better off winterizing it and using water from jugs.

There are a few things to take care of now:

1) Be sure your batteries are in good condition and replace them if necessary.  Furnace uses quite a lot of power and you don't want to have to run the genny all night every night
2) If you're thinking of adding more batteries now would be a good time to get that project done
3) Also might be a good time to upgrade the converter to a multistage one since you could then charge the batteries in a couple of hours with the generator instead of having to run it all day

For the trip you'll want, for planing purposes, to allow one 30# propane cylinder per day.  You won't use that much unless it gets really cold, but you at least want to have a plan.  Either be sure you have a local place at your destination, that's open, where you can get propane, or bring extra cylinders.  If it's below freezing and you're using the plumbing you will want to keep the interior of the trailer warm at all times even if you're not there.

It's a good idea to bring along a couple of jugs of pink RV antifreeze and a tank of compressed air in case you have furnace troubles or something and need to winterize in a hurry.

It can be difficult to find places to dump tanks or load water in the winter so you'll want to be sure you have that angle figured out.

 
I have a whole blog dedicated to complete off-grid motor home living in Alaska.  I have info on how I "live dry".  It's not as bad as most people think, and I can still use my sink to wash dishes & use the bathroom.  The link is in my signature below.  Glad to know there's other people out there doing it too:^)
 

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