Colorado travel plans
- Thread starter Windybill
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SkyKing4AR2
Senior Member
Nope, we'll be there this year just like always! 
82corvette
Senior Member
I am not going to let it bother me. I carried before I had a conceal carry permit. I don't darken the doorstep of the stores that ban legal conceal carry.
Racerham
Member
Yep - Not going there. It's way too much hassle to sort my mags and then store the ones that are illegal and get them back. I'll just take the long way around.
Same as I do about California. There is not enough in either state to make me want to visit anyway...
Same as I do about California. There is not enough in either state to make me want to visit anyway...
Jim Godward
Senior Member
Windybill said:
We have a family get together in Durango in August and I am hoping things will settle out as to what I can have in the MH by then. If not I may have a problem that was not anticipated when this was set up. I could leave most at home but ...!
I can guarantee that after the family get together, there will not be CO in my future.
Not sure how any of the new legislation will effect you - anything you own prior to July 1 is grandfathered. The new laws cover new purchases. Don't get me wrong - I am not in favor of gun regulation, but to say you won't be coming to Colorado is because of the new laws is, in my opinion, foolish.
Rancher Will
Senior Member
We live in Colorado and my businesses are here.
As I understand the recent laws passed this past month, almost any semi auto that you own is not legal due to the magazine detail restriction in Colorado. However, almost all County Sheriffs have stated that they do not intend to enforce the laws. Nothing has been reported by city officials.
Also, based on the new laws, if you come to Colorado for hunting, or shooting of any kind, do not hand, or loan, your gun (any gun) to another person, even your wife, children, friends, etc. Even a "transfer of possession" for just a moment is a violation of the laws. Even teaching safety rules, or loading procedures, etc., to another person, by handing them a gun, or if they hand you one, is unlawful in Colorado now. Transferring any gun from the hand of one person to any other person, even momentarily, makes both a criminal in Colorado, based upon the new laws.
You are welcome in Colorado but be aware that there is now a mass of confusing laws. How much of a problem will be caused is still unknown.
As I understand the recent laws passed this past month, almost any semi auto that you own is not legal due to the magazine detail restriction in Colorado. However, almost all County Sheriffs have stated that they do not intend to enforce the laws. Nothing has been reported by city officials.
Also, based on the new laws, if you come to Colorado for hunting, or shooting of any kind, do not hand, or loan, your gun (any gun) to another person, even your wife, children, friends, etc. Even a "transfer of possession" for just a moment is a violation of the laws. Even teaching safety rules, or loading procedures, etc., to another person, by handing them a gun, or if they hand you one, is unlawful in Colorado now. Transferring any gun from the hand of one person to any other person, even momentarily, makes both a criminal in Colorado, based upon the new laws.
You are welcome in Colorado but be aware that there is now a mass of confusing laws. How much of a problem will be caused is still unknown.
I was and am against any new legislation. I have loaded, unlocked guns throughout my house. Don't bring any kids here.
Rancher Will apparently does not understand the new legislation. There was a lot of false information flying around.
Cops don't get to decide what laws to enforce and which ones not to enforce, or they are no longer cops (sherriffs...).
Handing a gun to someone else does not constitute transfer of ownership. Period.
Stay out of Colorado - too many here anyway!
Rancher Will apparently does not understand the new legislation. There was a lot of false information flying around.
Cops don't get to decide what laws to enforce and which ones not to enforce, or they are no longer cops (sherriffs...).
Handing a gun to someone else does not constitute transfer of ownership. Period.
Stay out of Colorado - too many here anyway!
BruceinFL said:
Rancher Will is welcome to speak for me.
Bruce, you are welcome to pass on Colorado, but you'll be missing out. To the rest, even with a hoard of salivating law enforcement officials at the ready in July, you are still safe to possess in Colorado. What you can't do is transfer one of the targeted magazines. As Rancher Will pointed out, there will not be LEOs here waiting to arrest you. I intend to log many nights in Colorado and surrounding states and I'll be well armed no matter where I go.
vlady daddy
Senior Member
No thanks ! The burden of proof is on the Colorado citizen if progressive gun laws works to deter the criminal and insane minds. For the meantime, I'll watch it from a distance, similar to Magpul Industries Corp. leaving that state.
Also, it is unlawful in Colorado to have a firearm other than a handgun in or on any motor vehicle unless the chamber is unloaded. If you're uncomfortable with a loaded handgun in your vehicle, your rifle or shotgun must be unloaded. :
Also, it is unlawful in Colorado to have a firearm other than a handgun in or on any motor vehicle unless the chamber is unloaded. If you're uncomfortable with a loaded handgun in your vehicle, your rifle or shotgun must be unloaded. :
R. J. Barton
Senior Member
Great thread!
I've been meaning to ask on one of the gun forums or do a google search to see what new gun laws Colorado had passed. We'll be there for two weeks in July so it was something I thought I should look into.
Normally when we are camping I only bring my .45. But for this Colorado excursion I may stash a shotgun under the couch. 99% chance I won't need it, but I'm thinking the odds of running into a black bear or mountain lion are higher in Colorado than they are here in Missouri.
Does anyone know how common bears are in northern Colorado around the Rocky Mountain NP?
Rick
I've been meaning to ask on one of the gun forums or do a google search to see what new gun laws Colorado had passed. We'll be there for two weeks in July so it was something I thought I should look into.
Normally when we are camping I only bring my .45. But for this Colorado excursion I may stash a shotgun under the couch. 99% chance I won't need it, but I'm thinking the odds of running into a black bear or mountain lion are higher in Colorado than they are here in Missouri.
Does anyone know how common bears are in northern Colorado around the Rocky Mountain NP?
Rick
I've lived and hiked in Colorado for over 25 years and have never seen a bear or mountain. And I doubt that a shotgun would stop a black bear.
If you don't ordinarily travel with a shotgun, why bring one to Colorado?
Wendy
If you don't ordinarily travel with a shotgun, why bring one to Colorado?
Wendy
From Colorado State Patrol website:
Colorado allows a person to carry a firearm in a vehicle, loaded or unloaded, if its use is for lawful protection of such person or another's person or property. [C.R.S. 18-12-105(2)] Colorado law also allows a person to possess a handgun in a dwelling, place of business, or automobile. However, you cannot carry the weapon concealed on or about your person while transporting it into your home, business, hotel room, etc. Local jurisdictions may not enact laws that restrict a person's ability to travel with a weapon. [C.R.S. 18-12-105.6] The Act permits the nationwide carrying of concealed handguns by qualified current and retired law enforcement officers and amends the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Pub. L. 90-618, 82 Stat. 1213) to exempt qualified current and retired law enforcement officers from state and local laws prohibiting the carry of concealed firearms.
Latest gun law that has most folks concerned and some companies moving have to do with magazines. 15 bullets per clip is max now. LEO's are choosing not to enforce law as it very vague and not easy to determine what constitutes an "easily expandable" magazine. A quick google search will yield much more info.
As far as bears and mountain lions go. I have had both on my property and have run across both many times in the forests of Colorado while hunting. They are way more afraid of humans than we of them. All have chosen a hasty retreat at the whiff of human sent. A 12 ga. shotgun would definitely put a stop to either at close range.
Colorado allows a person to carry a firearm in a vehicle, loaded or unloaded, if its use is for lawful protection of such person or another's person or property. [C.R.S. 18-12-105(2)] Colorado law also allows a person to possess a handgun in a dwelling, place of business, or automobile. However, you cannot carry the weapon concealed on or about your person while transporting it into your home, business, hotel room, etc. Local jurisdictions may not enact laws that restrict a person's ability to travel with a weapon. [C.R.S. 18-12-105.6] The Act permits the nationwide carrying of concealed handguns by qualified current and retired law enforcement officers and amends the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Pub. L. 90-618, 82 Stat. 1213) to exempt qualified current and retired law enforcement officers from state and local laws prohibiting the carry of concealed firearms.
Latest gun law that has most folks concerned and some companies moving have to do with magazines. 15 bullets per clip is max now. LEO's are choosing not to enforce law as it very vague and not easy to determine what constitutes an "easily expandable" magazine. A quick google search will yield much more info.
As far as bears and mountain lions go. I have had both on my property and have run across both many times in the forests of Colorado while hunting. They are way more afraid of humans than we of them. All have chosen a hasty retreat at the whiff of human sent. A 12 ga. shotgun would definitely put a stop to either at close range.
BU
bucks2
Guest
I won't risk my freedom and liberty in a state that is currently so confused. While some LEO will not enforce the law to the letter, some will. Who's to say which one I might run across? Some eager beaver LEO may even try to enforce something the law doesn't even condone because of his ignorance of how a new law is to be interpreted. I'll drive around and not bother to spend my tourist dollars there.
In fact, I'm already putting a letter together to advise the Chamber(s) of Commerce and the tourist groups of my plans to drive around their state because of their efforts to thwart the 2nd ammendment. There's only two of us and we only spend maybe a thousand dollars a year there. A thousand here and a thousand there adds up over time.
Ken
In fact, I'm already putting a letter together to advise the Chamber(s) of Commerce and the tourist groups of my plans to drive around their state because of their efforts to thwart the 2nd ammendment. There's only two of us and we only spend maybe a thousand dollars a year there. A thousand here and a thousand there adds up over time.
Ken
vlady daddy
Senior Member
Colo. Rev. Stat. ? 33-6-125.
Colorado prohibits any person from possessing or having under his or her control any firearm other than a handgun in or on any motor vehicle unless the chamber of the firearm is unloaded.
"When a rifle or shotgun is transported in a vehicle, there may not be a round in the chamber.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Colorado
Colorado prohibits any person from possessing or having under his or her control any firearm other than a handgun in or on any motor vehicle unless the chamber of the firearm is unloaded.
"When a rifle or shotgun is transported in a vehicle, there may not be a round in the chamber.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Colorado
vlady daddy
Senior Member
See page 11
When does CO consider a firearm loaded?
33-6-125. Possession Of A Loaded Firearm In A Motor Vehicle.
It is unlawful for any person, except a person authorized by law or by the division, to possess or have under his control any firearm, other than a pistol or revolver, in or on any motor vehicle unless the chamber of such firearm is unloaded. Any person in possession or in control of a rifle or shotgun in a motor vehicle shall allow any peace officer, as defined in section 33-1-102 (32), who is empowered and acting under the authority granted in section 33-6-101 to enforce articles 1 to 6 of this title to inspect the chamber of any rifle or shotgun in the motor vehicle. For the purposes of this section, a "muzzle-loader" shall be considered unloaded if it is not primed, and, for such purpose, "primed" means having a percussion cap on the nipple or flint in the striker and powder in the flash pan. Any person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of fifty dollars and an assessment of fifteen license suspension points.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf
When does CO consider a firearm loaded?
33-6-125. Possession Of A Loaded Firearm In A Motor Vehicle.
It is unlawful for any person, except a person authorized by law or by the division, to possess or have under his control any firearm, other than a pistol or revolver, in or on any motor vehicle unless the chamber of such firearm is unloaded. Any person in possession or in control of a rifle or shotgun in a motor vehicle shall allow any peace officer, as defined in section 33-1-102 (32), who is empowered and acting under the authority granted in section 33-6-101 to enforce articles 1 to 6 of this title to inspect the chamber of any rifle or shotgun in the motor vehicle. For the purposes of this section, a "muzzle-loader" shall be considered unloaded if it is not primed, and, for such purpose, "primed" means having a percussion cap on the nipple or flint in the striker and powder in the flash pan. Any person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of fifty dollars and an assessment of fifteen license suspension points.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf
R. J. Barton
Senior Member
Wendy said:
Hi, Wendy.
I'll touch on both points. A 12 gauge shotgun with high brass rifled slugs, is a good gun for brown bears, let alone black bears. In fact many hunting guides will carry a 12 gauge to back up their client if they miss or simply wing a bear. For many bear hunters a shotgun with the proper ammo is their first choice over a rifle. I'd load mine thus; rifled slug, 00buck, rifled slug, 00-buck, rifled slug.
I have no idea if I'll encounter a bear or mountain lion in the Rocky Mountain NP area, but I'm convinced the odds are greater in northern Colorado than they are here in Missouri, hence the precaution. I'd rather have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
Rick
rcflyer-XRD
Senior Member
There is only one thing a state government will understand and that is money. When they get their new laws in place they will soon learn it will do nothing to discourage crime in their state. But it will discourage me from spending my vacation money in what was once a great state. If you do not like their laws then do not spend your money in their state and they may get the message.
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