EV-Phobia is getting worse!

[DonTom]

See here.

"Only 16% of Americans Would Buy an EV, a Study Finds. Here’s Why:"

• Respondents cited high battery repair costs and high purchase prices as some of the reasons, in addition to perceived unsuitability for long-distance driving.

Only 16% will consider buying an EV as their next car. All for nonsense reasons, IMAO. Especially worrying about the battery, but not tranies, ICE engines, and etc which fail every day somewhere. Few trannies and engines have an 8-year warranty. But my 2018 Tesla Model 3 battery, has such, which still has not yet expired. And I cannot tell any difference in range since the day it was new.

Both main reasons are nonsense, IMAO. I would use my Tesla for a trip across the country before considering any ICE car, but of course, I would take my ICE Class A for that anyway, as I already have.

-Don- Auburn, CA

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[Boat Bum]

Those nonsensical 84% of the population!

 

[Lou Schneider]

Few trannies and engines have an 8-year warranty.

Mitsubishi provides 10 year/100k mile power train warranties on all their cars and SUVs, including their hybrid models. Even my $16k Mirage.

 

[DonTom]

Those nonsensical 84% of the population!

I do not find that surprising at all, do you?

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[DonTom]

Mitsubishi provides 10 year/100k mile power train warranties on all their cars and SUVs, which can be doubled if you want to 20 years/200k miles at the time of purchase. Including my $16k Mirage.

You can bet your expensive problems will not be powertrain related! Sometimes just replacing a headlight will cost between $2,000 & $3,000.00 bucks these days.

But I would like to see all the fine print on that Mitsubishi warranty, including on EVs:

BTW, they give the same warranty on their EV batteries:

"Batteries in electric or hybrid vehicles are designed to last the lifespan of the vehicle, but battery capacity can be reduced over time, especially if they aren’t being properly charged or stored. Mitsubishi provides a 10-year/100,000-mile limited warranty for its Main Drive Lithium-ion battery."

How much does the 20-year warranty cost? And I assume they have the same deal offered for their EVs.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Larry N.]

Only 16% will consider buying an EV as their next car. All for nonsense reasons, IMAO.

You may think of them as nonsense, but they are not nonsense to everyone. And not everyone has thirty-leven vehicles to choose from -- often they are limited to one, maybe two vehicles.

Long range EVs are expensive compared to ICE with similar (or better) range, and (as you seem to forget from time to time) not everywhere has the abundance of charging stations that you seem to experience. And the "fast charge" is also not available everywhere.

I won't bother with other reasons, but perhaps the above will suffice for you to admit that nonsense in your opinion isn't nonsense in everyone's view, (unless you are footing the bill )

 

[IBTripping]

Geotab's findings show EV batteries can last 20+ years.​

EV Battery Health Insights: Data From 10,000 Cars | Geotab

Geotab research reveals how EV batteries can last 20+ years with proper care. Learn key insights and best practices to maximize EV battery life and performance.

www.geotab.com

 

[DonTom]

Long range EVs are expensive compared to ICE with similar (or better) range, and (as you seem to forget from time to time)

Not so much these days. EVs are rather cheap, especially used EVs these days. And especially Teslas.

And where is charging a big problem these days?

I will admit it can be for electric motorcycles, but I think at least for Tesla, the entire county is fairly well covered these days, as shown on Plugshare. In fact, probably overcovered in some areas.

If my motorcycles could use all the Tesla chargers, then there would be no issue there either. It can use a few, five in all of CA, zero in all of NV. Needs to have the Tesla Magic Dock, common in NY, but not in the west.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Derby6]

Just another DonTom thread where he alone will be 50%+ of the posts preaching OMG no one likes EVs but they are the best thing EVER. Everyone is so dumb and misinformed and I am so right....

Yet you admit over and over you are not the average person / consumer. So why keep pushing your Pro EV stance to everyone else.

 

[garyb1st]

You can bet your expensive problems will not be powertrain related! Sometimes just replacing a headlight will cost between $2,000 & $3,000.00 bucks these days.

Haven't checked lately but the xenon headlights on my 2001 Infiniti cost about $1,000 more than 20 years ago. Thankfully I haven't had to replace them.

 

[DonTom]

Geotab's findings show EV batteries can last 20+ years.​

EV Battery Health Insights: Data From 10,000 Cars | Geotab

Geotab research reveals how EV batteries can last 20+ years with proper care. Learn key insights and best practices to maximize EV battery life and performance.

www.geotab.com

I think the EV battery phobia is because many people do not understand the difference between an EV battery and an ICE car battery (which often only lasts five years).

But, most EVs also have a 12-volt battery, and it too often only lasts a few years. But Tesla now is using lith 12-volt batteries for better life, which are temp controlled as is the main battery. But only in their more expensive models because it has to be temp controlled.

But mine uses a lead-acid 12V battery, as mine is a cheaper 2018 M3 Tesla. And replacing it with a Tesla Lith is NOT a good idea for the winter, as it is not temp controlled and that causes problems. I am better off with the LA battery that has to be replaced ever few years. I have already replaced mine one time.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[DonTom]

So why keep pushing your Pro EV stance to everyone else.

IMO, there is way too much EV Phobia, which is a poor reason to not own one.

I am not saying there could not be good reasons to not own one, but let's make sure the reasons are realistic and not just a phobia.

IMO, good reasons to not own EVs would be those who cannot home charge and also perhaps up there in AK isn't the best place to own one.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[garyb1st]

Read the luxury EV Lucid Air Sapphire has a range of more than 400 miles. It also goes from 0 to 60 in under 2 seconds. You can buy one for less than $250,000. Wonder what Elon is going to come out with to top this one?

 

[DonTom]

Read the luxury EV Lucid Air Sapphire has a range of more than 400 miles. It also goes from 0 to 60 in under 2 seconds. You can buy one for less than $250,000. Wonder what Elon is going to come out with to top this one?

The Tesla Roadster. 620-mile range.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[garyb1st]

The Tesla Roadster. 620-mile range.

But wouldn't you really want to own a Lucid. Tesla is so pedestrian.

 

[DonTom]

But wouldn't you really want to own a Lucid. Tesla is so pedestrian.

For anything serious, I would want to own Tesla. For around town and other stuff, it depends. For most of my drives, I enjoy my cheap Chevy Bolt the most.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[NY_Dutch]

According to the USDOE charging station locator map (Linked below), there are about 8 charging stations within a 10 mile radius of our current home. All are level 2 facilities. While we could charge at home currently, we're in the process of evaluating senior housing since we can no longer properly maintain our home and property. None of the facilities we've looked into offer EV charging. Given the location and circumstances, I think leasing a hybrid will be our best option for reasonable cost and flexibility.

Electric Vehicle Station Locator - NYSERDA

The U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Alternative Fuels Data Center (AFDC) provides up-to-date information on alternative fueling station locations. The AFDC’s interactive Alternative Fueling Station Locator (below) displays public charging stations, or electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE)...

www.nyserda.ny.gov

 

[jymbee]

See here.

"Only 16% of Americans Would Buy an EV, a Study Finds. Here’s Why:"

• Respondents cited high battery repair costs and high purchase prices as some of the reasons, in addition to perceived unsuitability for long-distance driving.

-Don- Auburn, CA

I've always thought an EV would probably not work for me. Took my first ever ride ever in an EV owned by a friend a few months ago. Now I'm certain I'll never own one.

 

[Derby6]

I've always thought an EV would probably not work for me. Took my first ever ride ever in an EV owned by a friend a few months ago. Now I'm certain I'll never own one.

Lol. Made me laugh. But I’m curious what did you really dislike?

 

[DonTom]

I've always thought an EV would probably not work for me. Took my first ever ride ever in an EV owned by a friend a few months ago. Now I'm certain I'll never own one.

Can you explain the main things you did NOT like? And what type of EV was it?

-Don- Auburn, CA