EV Sales Rebound and Used EV Deals Disappearing Soon?

[Joezeppy]

If you had a full time job you would know when you get home you can't wait to relax and unwind, not mess around with the freaking car. Getting grime on your hands and your best clothes every single day instead of once a weekend at a gas pump in your casual clothes.

Plugging it in at home involves "getting grime on your hands and best clothes every day"? Come on! I fueled up my diesel pickup on the way home from work 2 days ago - the handle of the pump was covered in fuel and even though I always tip the nozzle upwards before inserting it, it still dripped an ounce or so of fuel on the side of my truck. All things equal, getting a little dirt on my hand from opening the charge door of an EV seems a heck of a lot nicer. I work full-time and drive about 45 miles round trip - even with a few side trips for grocery shopping or whatever, I could go a whole week without plugging in if I wanted to.

I'm not an EV lover or hater - I think they have a valid place in today's driving society but agree they should not be shoved down our throats. I used to have a high MPG "commuter car" - if I was in the market for another one, I'd strongly think about an EV.

 

[cupe873]

Could be... maybe .... only if you life in a metro area. If you life rural... EV's are a No-Go. To many miles in rural, country areas.

I would be up for a plug-in hybrid... like a Ford Maverick.....

I have a plugin escape hybrid. Great little car. up to 36 miles per charge, charge on 110 overnight, 11 hours. very cheap and I average about 600 miles per tank. In the winter I get less because of the cold.

 

[cupe873]

Getting grime on your hands and your best clothes every single day instead of once a weekend at a gas pump in your casual clothes. Versus you see charging the car as a fun and social activity.

You do realize it is just plugging in an extension cord in Right.

 

[DonTom]

Down to having to plug in a charge cable every day when you get home.

Maybe, but very unlikely. Not many drive 200 miles per day, so no real need to charge every day. And it's a lot less hassle than a drive to a gas station. So home charging is a big advantage. But if somebody thinks that is too much trouble, they can always buy one of those thingies that you simply drive over. But I have never known anybody who thought plugging in at home was more trouble than a drive to a gas station, so not many have those drive over and charge thingies.

The problem is rebelling against normal is fighting a war you cannot win.

I am not trying to win a war, other than to fight the many EV myths, such as thinking home charging is a disadvantage when it is really one of the big advantages over ICVs.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Seilerbird]

I am not trying to win a war, other than to fight the many EV myths, such as thinking home charging is a disadvantage when it is really one of the biggestest advantages over ICVs

Sounds like you are trying to start one.

 

[DonTom]

they should not be shoved down our throats.

I wish the pollution from ICVs was not shoved down my throat, especially when I am in traffic stuck behind such on an electric motorcycle here in Reno. Less of an issue in CA where they have legal lane splitting.

Even with ICVs, many things "are shoved down our throats" much of it smog related, including the smog checks here in Reno and many other areas, which EVs do not need to bother with.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

Sounds like you are trying to start one.

Yes, if you mean the war against the countless EV myths. But more to continue the "war' that has been going on here for quite a while.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

"You do realize it is just plugging in an extension cord in Right."

But it is so much trouble to press that little button on the charge plug that opens my Tesla charge door via wireless!

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[TheBar]

Plugging it in at home involves "getting grime on your hands and best clothes every day"? Come on! I fueled up my diesel pickup on the way home from work 2 days ago - the handle of the pump was covered in fuel and even though I always tip the nozzle upwards before inserting it, it still dripped an ounce or so of fuel on the side of my truck. All things equal, getting a little dirt on my hand from opening the charge door of an EV seems a heck of a lot nicer. I work full-time and drive about 45 miles round trip - even with a few side trips for grocery shopping or whatever, I could go a whole week without plugging in if I wanted to.

I'm not an EV lover or hater - I think they have a valid place in today's driving society but agree they should not be shoved down our throats. I used to have a high MPG "commuter car" - if I was in the market for another one, I'd strongly think about an EV.

Joe, my point was you don't have to fuel up an ICE vehicle nearly as often. My ICE car has a 600 mile range. At 75 mph with the A/C blowing.

 

[DonTom]

Joe, my point was you don't have to fuel up an ICE vehicle nearly as often. My ICE car has a 600 mile range. At 75 mph with the A/C blowing.

I think most people would rather plug in at home ten days in a row than go to a gas station one time. My EV cars have around half the range or your 600 mile ICE vehicle and never found it to be an issue.

BTW, some EVs are now getting close to your 600 mile range. It will probably soon be common.

"The electric vehicle with the longest EPA-rated range available for purchase is the 2026 Lucid Air Grand Touring, which offers approximately 512 to 516 miles on a single charge. In controlled testing, this model has achieved a Guinness World Record of over 749 miles (1,200 km), while a Polestar 3 previously set a record for an electric SUV with 581.3 miles. "

118 KWH battery. For comparison, most Teslas have an 80KWH battery, like my M3. The largest Tesla battery in a car is 100 KWH, in the Model S, which is no longer made. as of just a few days ago.

BTW, if EV range is important to you, you may buy the 2026 Lucid Air Grand Touring for only $115,000.00. .

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Derby6]

Still filling my Tesla every night for the same few cents as before the problem over seas.

You're still paying too much. Countless free to use EV charges stations

-Don- Reno, NV

I am not trying to win a war, other than to fight the many EV myths, such as thinking home charging is a disadvantage when it is really one of the big advantages over ICVs.

-Don- Reno, NV

All in one thread. You tell someone they are paying too much to charge at home. And then say charging at home is one of the big advantages.

 

[DonTom]

You tell someone they are paying too much to charge at home. And then say charging at home is one of the big advantages.

Yes, we often have to pay for convivences. A lot more convenient to charge at home and pay a few bucks than charge miles from home for free.

BTW, some do both, who install a solar charging system at home. But they must pay for the equipment up front of course. It is worth the trouble for those very few who need to charge every day, at least where the electric rates are higher.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[TheBar]

"The electric vehicle with the longest EPA-rated range available for purchase is the 2026 Lucid Air Grand Touring, which offers approximately 512 to 516 miles on a single charge.

-Don- Reno, NV

That false advertising is what kills EV. The general public has finally learned EV has always been overhyped so now sales are falling.

I wouldn't buy a kitchen appliance knowing that it was falsely advertised. And you are not helping your cause with your snake oil sales pitch.

ICE mileage rating are done at 65, EV at 45. Drive that $115K Lucid 65 mph with the heat or A/C on and divide the range by half.

Yes, EV sales will continue because gullible people will always follow the herd over a cliff. People who think for themselves will not and it appears we are in the majority now.

You are fighting a war by yourself. Go joust some windmills.

 

[DonTom]

That false advertising is what kills EV. The general public has finally learned EV has always been overhyped so now sales are falling.

I wouldn't buy a kitchen appliance knowing that it was falsely advertised. And you are not helping your cause with your snake oil sales pitch.

ICE mileage rating are done at 65, EV at 45. Drive that $115K Lucid 65 mph with the heat or A/C on and divide the range by half.

Yes, EV sales will continue because gullible people will always follow the herd over a cliff. People who think for themselves will not and it appears we are in the majority now.

You are fighting a war by yourself. Go joust some windmills.

If you have a hangup about how things are advertised, you need to buy a Tesla. The last I heard Tesla does NO advertising anywhere and ended up with the hottest selling car in the world

-Don- Cold Springs Station Restaurant, NV (Electric motorcycle ride).

 

[Derby6]

If you have a hangup about how things are advertised, you need to buy a Tesla. The last I heard Tesla does NO advertising anywhere and ended up with the hottest selling car in the world

-Don- Cold Springs Station Restaurant, NV (Electric motorcycle ride).

Except here -- you advertise for them on a pretty regular basis...LMAO

 

[DonTom]

ICE mileage rating are done at 65, EV at 45. Drive that $115K Lucid 65 mph with the heat or A/C on and divide the range by half.

Your facts are wrong. Go at 35 MPH and then double the EV range compared to ICVs.

The EVA does both at various speeds, with an average speed of 48.3 MPH regardless of if ICE or EV. But EVs are done differently because range varies more at different speeds than ICE--but in both directions--a lot better than ICE at slower speeds but worse at higher speeds. It's not to be "false advertising" but for the opposite reasons-- for a better comparison to ICE. In stop & go traffic, EV range increases but in ICE cars it decreases. If you can find a better, more accurate way to compare EVs, but sure to let the EPA know

Continuous normal freeway driving will be less on either.

Do your own search and prove yourself wrong.

"Every man has a right to his own opinion. But no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."
-Bernard Baruch

-Don- Cold Springs Stn, NV

 

[DonTom]

Except here -- you advertise for them on a pretty regular basis...LMAO

Not exactly. I simply fight the countless EV myths with the facts. I am not trying to sell anything.

-Don- Cold Springs Station, NV

 

[TheBar]

If you have a hangup about how things are advertised, you need to buy a Tesla. The last I heard Tesla does NO advertising anywhere and ended up with the hottest selling car in the world

Tesla doesn't need commercials because government websites like the EPA and Dept of Energy does their advertising for them. And advertising should not be done by any government agency.

That's what turned people against the EV and electrification movement because they published misleading info like EV highway range tested at 45 mph and comparing that to ICE tested at 65 mph. Total scam.

The whole EV movement started looking like, if it wasn't, part of a bigger scam to make huge profits from electrification across the board. Everyone was told they would have to replace their cars, home heating systems, gas stoves, even weedeaters with all electric. Talk about investment opportunities at our expense. Literally.

The house I lived in previously for the past 24 years was total electric. So I have nothing about electricity, I just don't like being scammed. And the majority of American public has shown they resent being scammed. The battle against fossil fuels was lost. Maybe just the battle but not the war because everything should become electric. When electric is ready, maybe in 50 years.

What does that tell you when your hero Elon obviously wants the world to go electric (and so do I) but he switches sides. Is Elon a half wit or did he realize the path we were forced on would cause the economy to crash and burn like a lithium battery?

 

[DonTom]

Tesla doesn't need commercials because government websites like the EPA and Dept of Energy does their advertising for them. And advertising should not be done by any government agency.

Neither one of those websites mentioned Tesla. Just general EV info. EVs other than Tesla are often advertised. However, I just discovered Tesla started to advertise after their new car sales dropped way down--a couple of years ago. But IMO, that drop was caused by the large number of Teslas available on the used market as well as for political reasons I will not get into here (we all know anyway). Tesla has been advertising on YouTubes and Facebook recently, but I have not seen any of them.

Everyone was told they would have to replace their cars, home heating systems, gas stoves, even weedeaters with all electric.

Everyone? How did they miss me? All I recall is some states were not going to sell new ICE cars anymore after 8 years or so. Keep the ICVs you already have and be able to buy used ones just as ever after that date.

But it doesn't seem necessary to me, as I expect the EV market to increase on its own, as it has been, even with the lack of tax credits:

"New electric vehicle (EV) sales in the U.S. have shown record growth until late 2025, followed by a sharp decline in early 2026. In 2024, U.S. sales reached a record 1.3 million units, a 7.3% increase from the revised 2023 total of 1.2 million. By the end of 2025, annual sales remained near 2024 levels at approximately 1.27 million units, despite a 36% quarterly drop in Q4 caused by the expiration of federal tax credits. "


"Used electric vehicle (EV) sales have surged in late 2025 and early 2026, reversing a previous trend as new EV sales declined following the expiration of federal tax credits. In Q1 2026, used EV sales reached 93,500 units, a 12% increase from the same period in 2025 and a 17% jump from Q4 2025.

• January 2026: Sales hit 31,503 units, up 21.2% year-over-year and 20.8% from December 2025.
• February 2026: Sales rose to 30,879 units, a 28.8% increase from the previous year.
• November 2025: Sales totaled 28,257 units, marking a 14.2% year-over-year increase.
• Late 2025: Approximately 89,000 used EVs were sold in the final three months of 2025, up 13.5% from 2024."

It looks like EV sales are doing fine on their own, and will continue to do so with the raising gasoline prices.

Nice 253 mile ride today to Cold Springs Station and back on my 2025 Energica Experia electric motorcycle which I charged while having a late lunch as the restaurant there. BTW, it is mainly an RV Park.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

The house I lived in previously for the past 24 years was total electric.

So I have nothing about (against?) electricity,

I do, for some things.

How well did your electric house heater work? They seem lousy to me based on what I have seen of them so far--when compared to natural gas or propane.

Elon a half wit or did he realize the path we were forced on would cause the economy to crash and burn like a lithium battery?

That is a nonstop thing with any new technology. A few jobs are lost and a few are gained, usually with a demand for more higher tech employees. I wonder if they worried about jobs when the first ICE car hit the market. Those who made horse shoes, horse buggies and many other jobs were threatened.

-Don- Reno, NV