Fall vaccinations?

[Babe2201]

I've already got my timeline figured out. It's called "when donkeys fly".

I am not even willing to take a chance on that. Knowing my luck it would happen.

 

[Skookum]

How about the people who died from the common flu? Or the people who died in car accidents, were found to have Covid, and were counted as Covid deaths? Same for other non-Covid ailments that were counted as Covid deaths just to make the numbers look better in the scam.

Skookum, all I'm saying here is that this Covid vaccination nonsense is the biggest scam ever to be perpetrated on the world. No politics, no Left vs Right, just a plain old scam that started during the Trump administration and has continued under the Biden regime. In the process, big Pharma has made billions in profits, at the expense of the American taxpayer. You have GOT to follow the money here.

There have been so many lies told in this scam and so much politicization of it that my entire belief structure in the government has been destroyed. The CDC has lost all its credibility with me. Same for the WHO. My Primary Care Physician (a young lady whom I DO trust) has told me that there is no need for any more Covid vaccinations if I don't want to get them. So I am not getting any more useless shots.

As for Fauci...don't get me started. What a lying sleazeball he turned out to be.

I'm not here to change your mind. I will bring attention to your unsubstantiated and partisan rant, however. It does nothing to change the fact that:

• An astonishing number of people have died worldwide from Covid as a primary cause of death, and possibly as many more have died from Covid where it was not documented or where testing wasn't done/ wasn't possible.
• The Covid vaccines are clinically proven to have efficacy, and MRNA technology has been studied for decades
• Covid deaths are substantially down and hospitalizations reduced after the introduction of vaccines;
• Covid affects people differently, ranging from fatality to the severity of a common cold
• The Healthcare and Pharmaceutical industries in the US and globally are mostly for-profit before and after Covid, however, MRNA vaccine technology was first developed through a grant through the US government.

I do follow the money, in fact, I invested in Moderna stock. Like any infectious disease, Covid is a calculation of risk, and I choose the vaccine in hopes of living as long as possible because I trust the caregivers, researchers, scientists, and entrepreneurs who have a proven track record of improving health outcomes.

 

[A Traveler]

Wow! A worldwide scam Devised and implemented in mere months.

Yes.

It's easy to manipulate and control people who are scared.

 

[Jayflight]

Do some of you realize that you are defending a vaccine that had its beginnings under the former pres that most of you hate and have mocked for years? Do any of you recall that the current office holders said that they would not take a vaccine if the former pres said so.

Yet millions fell right in line after Jan 2021 and are in fact what you are falling for now, even ones with no clinical trials. This proves once again the positions stated now are strickly political without any critical thinking.
High regards,
Clinical trailer on wheels Scientist at your service.

 

[A Traveler]

I'm not here to change your mind. I will bring attention to your unsubstantiated and partisan rant...

If you are looking for partisan rants, I think you ought to look in the mirror.

I specifically said, "...No politics, no Left vs Right, just a plain old scam..."

 

[Babe2201]

Do some of you realize that you are defending a vaccine that had its beginnings under the former pres that most of you hate and have mocked for years? Do any of you recall that the current office holders said that they would not take a vaccine if the former pres said so.

Yet millions fell right in line after Jan 2021 and are in fact what you are falling for now, even ones with no clinical trials. This proves once again the positions stated now are strickly political without any critical thinking.
High regards,
Clinical trailer on wheels Scientist at your service.

Yes a lot of people that said if it was developed under Trump's term it should not be trusted but the moment they got in they pushed it and mandated it.

I am sure they tested the new booster on at least 10 mice.

 

[Skookum]

If you are looking for partisan rants, I think you ought to look in the mirror.

I specifically said, "...No politics, no Left vs Right, just a plain old scam..."

I'd believe it if you didn't start your political rants only talking about the left and people they supported.

Do some of you realize that you are defending a vaccine that had its beginnings under the former pres that most of you hate and have mocked for years? Do any of you recall that the current office holders said that they would not take a vaccine if the former pres said so.

Yet millions fell right in line after Jan 2021 and are in fact what you are falling for now, even ones with no clinical trials. This proves once again the positions stated now are strickly political without any critical thinking.
High regards,
Clinical trailer on wheels Scientist at your service.

Some of us don't get our healthcare information from politicians or Fox News, Jay. MRNA research and technology existed before Trump was briefed so he could fumble over the topic in a public speech.

Your statement about clinical trials is completely incorrect and false. I expect better from you, as you claim to be an authority on the subject.

 

[Oldgator73]

It comes down to if you want to get vaccinated do so, if you don’t want to get vaccinated don’t. Nobody is going to change anybody’s mind here. I might take some RV related advice here or some recipe ideas or even clothing attire advice. But rarely would I take medical advice from someone on an RV forum.

 

[Babe2201]

I'm not here to change your mind. I will bring attention to your unsubstantiated and partisan rant, however. It does nothing to change the fact that:

• An astonishing number of people have died worldwide from Covid as a primary cause of death, and possibly as many more have died from Covid where it was not documented or where testing wasn't done/ wasn't possible.
• The Covid vaccines are clinically proven to have efficacy, and MRNA technology has been studied for decades
• Covid deaths are substantially down and hospitalizations reduced after the introduction of vaccines;
• Covid affects people differently, ranging from fatality to the severity of a common cold
• The Healthcare and Pharmaceutical industries in the US and globally are mostly for-profit before and after Covid, however, MRNA vaccine technology was first developed through a grant through the US government.

I do follow the money, in fact, I invested in Moderna stock. Like any infectious disease, Covid is a calculation of risk, and I choose the vaccine in hopes of living as long as possible because I trust the caregivers, researchers, scientists, and entrepreneurs who have a proven track record of improving health outcomes.

You do realize that a lot of caregivers and researchers are saying that the shot is no longer needed for a large percentage of the population. Even some that originally were all for it for almost everyone are no longer thinking that way.

 

[Skookum]

You do realize that a lot of caregivers and researchers are saying that the shot is no longer needed for a large percentage of the population. Even some that originally were all for it for almost everyone are no longer thinking that way.

Did you hear about it? Are people talking about it? Are a lot of people saying it? Well then it must be true, right? (IYKYK, this is a sarcastic reference)

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Babe2201]

Did you hear about it? Are people talking about it? Are a lot of people saying it? Well then it must be true, right? (IYKYK, this is a sarcastic reference)

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Yea I have seen it but because they do not agree with the great skookum it has to be wrong.

 

[darsben]

Does this go for someone that gets the shot and has a severe adverse reaction to it? Should they pay for their own medical care as well?

Of course not; you cannot compare the two. Sounds like you have trumplican logic

 

[Babe2201]

Of course not; you cannot compare the two. Sounds like you have trumplican logic

No it is just common sense. Sorry to try that with you. I felt the same way about your lack of logic long before Trump was President.

 

[Skookum]

Yea I have seen it but because they do not agree with the great skookum it has to be wrong.

It's just, "Skookum". Adding "Great" is somewhat redundant as that is basically what the name means.

 

[darsben]

I am out idiots beat me with experience

 

[Chef Duane]

IMHO, the problem originally was the medical/political/healthcare industry calling the Covid shot a "vaccine." They oversold it. The general population hears the word "vaccine" and they think "prevention" and it would keep one from getting the disease. Then when people got Covid after getting "vaccinated" it was easy for folks to make the leap to "governmental conspiracy." (Heck, when they changed the formulation of Coke to New Coke it was a government conspiracy!) Should have just called it the 'Covid shot' and left it at that. People get a flu shot all the time and think nothing of it, and should they get the flu they are thankful that it wasn't worse. And you can die from influenza as many do every year. Yep, should have just called it a 'covid shot'. That would have alleviated a lot of the 'vaxxer vs anti-vaxxer vs ambivalent vaxxer' debate. Personally, I don't care what you do. Just go do it - no need to stand in the street and rant and rave about it. Regardless of what side of the issue you are on, the other side feels just as strongly. Just try not to be an ass about it and interfere with other people just trying to lead their lives.

 

[Skookum]

If being vaccinated against Covid involved taking a pill instead of a needle in the arm, I think it would have been received better. No joke.

The Covid pandemic was another opportunity for the distrustful, anti-science, conspiratorial, anti-government folks to make noise and do what they always do. It didn't start with Covid and won't end with Covid. A lot of folks who aren't those people forget that Healthcare is one of the things that has been truly great about America. The US has been on the forefront of medicine and vaccinations for a long time. "Medicine" is one of the US' most impactful industries and pool of knowledge. It's no secret why certain people want to attack it and discredit it.

 

[JudyJB]

No vaccine 100% prevents anything, but they do reduce the likelihood you will get something severely. I got shingles in 2019, but it was a mild case and lasted only a couple of weeks because I had had the original shingles shot several years earlier. I got the newer two-shot shingles vaccine as soon as I could after recovering.

To get back to the original posting, I got my RSV shot last week and had just a sore spot for about 2 days. I will get the new COVID booster as soon as I can get it, hopefully this week. And since my immune system is not 100% terrific, I will wait until late October to get the flu shot. I have gotten it in August or September in past years and was told by my internist and oncologist that it is best to wait until late October so that it will be most effective in the most likely highest flu season.

I have had all of the COVID vaccinations, plus an extra one, and all of the possible boosters. Have been exposed several times, but have never gotten the disease. Don't want to get it now.

 

[Professor David]

If being vaccinated against Covid involved taking a pill instead of a needle in the arm, I think it would have been received better. No joke.

The Covid pandemic was another opportunity for the distrustful, anti-science, conspiratorial, anti-government folks to make noise and do what they always do. It didn't start with Covid and won't end with Covid. A lot of folks who aren't those people forget that Healthcare is one of the things that has been truly great about America. The US has been on the forefront of medicine and vaccinations for a long time. "Medicine" is one of the US' most impactful industries and pool of knowledge. It's no secret why certain people want to attack it and discredit it.

You are my hero!

 

[Onyrlef]

IMHO, the problem originally was the medical/political/healthcare industry calling the Covid shot a "vaccine." They oversold it. The general population hears the word "vaccine" and they think "prevention" and it would keep one from getting the disease. Then when people got Covid after getting "vaccinated" it was easy for folks to make the leap to "governmental conspiracy." (Heck, when they changed the formulation of Coke to New Coke it was a government conspiracy!) Should have just called it the 'Covid shot' and left it at that. People get a flu shot all the time and think nothing of it, and should they get the flu they are thankful that it wasn't worse. And you can die from influenza as many do every year. Yep, should have just called it a 'covid shot'. That would have alleviated a lot of the 'vaxxer vs anti-vaxxer vs ambivalent vaxxer' debate. Personally, I don't care what you do. Just go do it - no need to stand in the street and rant and rave about it. Regardless of what side of the issue you are on, the other side feels just as strongly. Just try not to be an ass about it and interfere with other people just trying to lead their lives.

It's about control, no different from the abortion issue, most of the pro-life zealots could care less about the sanctity of life, what they do care about is putting women in their place, back where they belong, under the thumb of a man. You'd think if you don't want a vaccine you just don't get one, but that's not good enough. The notion that you're getting one outrages them, so if they don't want the covid vaccine no one should. If they don't like what's in a book, no one should be able to read it, if they don't like a certain kind of music it should be banned. If they don't like a certain movie no one should watch it. If their religion tells them marriage is between a man and a woman, it applies to everyone. If teachers don't fall in line they should be fired. If businesses don't fall in line they should be penalized. The free press to them and their dear leader is the enemy of the people and as Orwell wrote, for them, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.