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Ray-IN

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Most of the roundabouts I've encountered in the USA seem to be designed to fail. Far too small in many cases. In one area they are actually intended to slow traffic rather than assist it (it's a residential street).
Roundabouts are part of the Vision Zero plan to eliminate all traffic deaths. After reading about the plan, you realize why some of the idiotic things city traffic department do are so expensive.
The opposing view of Vision Zero.
 
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Jayflight

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I don't know the statistics on eliminating deaths for either the roundabouts or four way stops . But when I get to either with additional traffic at opposing points, its always a bunch of pausing and rubber necking taking place. Of course the four way stops have a well recognized standard of crossing. But with three or four vehicles its not much different than the roundabouts.

If you are towing, well all bets are off when there are two lanes all the way around and if you end up in the left lanes of the circle and need to get over . Plus, if there are curbing in the center isle, well you will make sure that you challenge your tires and alignments. I saw a video recently that literally had a huge mound in the middle on a roundabout, which completely blocked the view of the two of the lanes once you started around the circle. Sometimes I wonder about the mindset of engineers that designs such a simple shape, a circle.
 

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His re-election was in 2022, and won by an even narrower margin than the first one in '18. He's not as popular as national media would have you believe. Who said he should do anything unlawful? When you watch election fraud live on TV and in person, you expect the State executive, who is in charge of State law enforcement, to order a thorough investigation into the matter. He punted, and was unable to avoid getting the stink on him.
He stood up to a bully and refused to circumvent a free and fair election so the bully and his thug mob could illegally claim they'd won what they had obviously lost. He won election in '22 by a landslide, whether it was by a smaller landslide margin than in '18 is irrelevant and a matter of context. Had he been so unpopular his party could have easily primaried him, a fence post in Georgia can defeat any Democrat, so they weren't concerned only Kemp could defeat Abrahms.
 

Jayflight

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He stood up to a bully and refused to circumvent a free and fair election so the bully and his thug mob could illegally claim they'd won what they had obviously lost. He won election in '22 by a landslide, whether it was by a smaller landslide margin than in '18 is irrelevant and a matter of context. Had he been so unpopular his party could have easily primaried him, a fence post in Georgia can defeat any Democrat, so they weren't concerned only Kemp could defeat Abrahms.
While your reply is highly partisan, I take it that you have not followed your own high profile party members questioning any of the previous election results. Even the ones that ran the J6 committee was involved in attempting to deny certification of a presidential election on the floor in Congress.

. We have now seen this only allowed just one way.
And yes your Stacey was involved in filing challenges to elections.

I do think that there are mechanisms in place to do just that, even though partisan participants failed to even look at the changes in the voting system in major swing states on a whim without the traditional public input.

Frankly voting now has been fully corrupted. We just saw a move put in place this week for illegals that will allow them to vote in the next election.
 
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RedForeman

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He stood up to a bully and refused to circumvent a free and fair election so the bully and his thug mob could illegally claim they'd won what they had obviously lost. He won election in '22 by a landslide, whether it was by a smaller landslide margin than in '18 is irrelevant and a matter of context. Had he been so unpopular his party could have easily primaried him, a fence post in Georgia can defeat any Democrat, so they weren't concerned only Kemp could defeat Abrahms.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I've been a resident of Fulton County GA and voter here since 1996. What I saw from this perspective is not at all how it was represented on mainstream media. From the midnight vote counting fiasco, to hundreds of absentee applications found (including mine) shoved under a table in the post office that serves their destination, and many other irregularities. Other than paid for politicians getting on the news and scolding me for noticing those things, there has been zero actual reports rationally explaining why things weren't exactly what they appeared to be. It wasn't like that before the 2020 election cycle. Something changed.

You and others may be surprised to learn this, but I'm no Trump supporter. I just don't have the seething hatred of him that it takes to rationalize the talking head garbage being fed to me over the past 5 years.
 

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I don't know the statistics on eliminating deaths for either the roundabouts or four way stops .

Well I had an almost scare here the other day. Coming out of Lowes I am on the smaller of two streets but still main ton drag. I come to the corner of the main county highway - traffic light - and the light is blinking red.

No one on the side street, including me, could see the lights facing the main road. Many of us assumed it was blinking 4-way red. Many of the cars on the main road were stopping adding to the right of way impression.

I waited, then pulled out and a main drag car, initially stopped, sorta floored it in front of me. I honked thinking, well you know, but as I looked at him drive away saw the main drag lights were flashing yellow.

I zipped off an eMail to the county that evening telling them that I thought the default red/yellow was dangerous and they should reprogram to red/red...

Probably never happen...
 
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