HD Dish Box--Any Differences to Non-HD?

[conradps]

We have just upgraded our DISH box at home (which is also used in the RV) to HD.  The question is, is the only difference that the DISH will now have to find one more satellite before it is set up??  We use a Winegard system that is built in to our Class A RV.

Any help appreciated!

Thanks,

 

[ticat900]

We have just upgraded our DISH box at home (which is also used in the RV) to HD.  The question is, is the only difference that the DISH will now have to find one more satellite before it is set up??  We use a Winegard system that is built in to our Class A RV.

Any help appreciated!

Thanks,

well assuming you have a LCD HDTV  ? the picture quailty compared to digital is rather obvious? as its a greatly enhanced picture for sure.especially on 37+42 TV systems
Opps forgot to add that your dish LNB will need to be HD compatable if u want to view HD TV otherwise your HD receiver will receicve reg sat digital TV no problem

 

[Bob Buchanan]

We have just upgraded our DISH box at home (which is also used in the RV) to HD.  The question is, is the only difference that the DISH will now have to find one more satellite before it is set up??  We use a Winegard system that is built in to our Class A RV.

Any help appreciated!

Thanks,

Am not familiar with DISH systems or Winegard - but would imagine the issue is whether or not the Winegard system on your RV is HD ready. My DirecTV system gives me HD when connected to the HD dish at my current home spot. However, when on the road with the same HD box connected to my RV dome satellite, I only get SD TV. There is a noticeable difference in the picture quality, but yes, the same box works for both.

 

[Mavarick]

I don't know about your setup but a lot also depends on the year of your dish on the MH if I understand correctly. I have both HD and analog at home, dish network. They use different set top boxes and my MH equip is all 2003 vintage. I have to use the analog box from the house in the MH to use with my Winegard for everything to work because all in the MH is analog, not HD. I understand the newer dish equip sold for HD has three heads (or whatever they call them) so they can get the 3rd satellite and it requires a different box just like in my house. My dish only has two heads for 110 and 119. Their also might be other ways around this but this was the most cost effective way for us.

 

[yolo]

To get the full Dish HD service, you need to receive satellites 110, 119 and 129.  You can do this with a Winegard traveler system or equivalent (Tripod and 1002 dish).  If you can only get the 110 and 119 birds, it will work with partial HD programming.  Use the set switch function on the satellite receiver in setup mode to get those satellites.  When the system gets the program guide you will not see the programming on the 129 bird.  We have done this several times this year when we could only receive the 110 and 119 or only the 119 birds.  You can get everything that is available on the birds that you can see with the HD receiver.  So the HD receiver will work with whatever it can obtain for the available satellites.

Hope that this helps.

 

[99WinAdventurer37G]

RG-6 Quad shield cable is key to a good HD content.  My MH has RG-59 or older.  I don't know what they had back in 99, but they tell me I need at least RG-6 cable.

 

[Jim Godward]

RG-6 Quad shield cable is key to a good HD content.  My MH has RG-59 or older.  I don't know what they had back in 99, but they tell me I need at least RG-6 cable.

For short runs you won't know the difference.  By short I mean the length of the MH or less.  Just be sure that what is being transmitted on the coax is the RF frequency and not the R, G or B signals or even the audio.  Only the RF will work OK.  Any output from the receiver is NOT OK, use only on input side.

From my receivers the output is HDMI, or component/audio.

 

[John From Detroit]

Differences between Quad Shield RG6 (The very good stuff) and lowest bidder RG 59.. On the average RG-59 has about 4x the loss of RG-6, in the specific cited, even more so a 10 foot run of RG59 can be 50-100 feet equivlent.

The quad shield means that interference which is not entering via the antenna, is NOT ENTERING at all.  The lesser shield on RG-59 may let interference enter.

I recommend RG-6 and ONLY RG-6 for that .

In fact, Id just as soon use RG-6 all the way.  It is better at UHF as well.  Slightly better at VHF.  The feed to my Digital converters is all RG-6.

 

[Jim Godward]

John,

NO question about it, RG 6 is much better than RG 59 but if the choice is to use a short run or have to tear out a lot of stuff to run a new wire, the -59 will work.  Yes it is not the best but it will work.

Now if there are problems that make it un-useable, then the tear out must be done and cost be dammed.

 

[ticat900]

John,

NO question about it, RG 6 is much better than RG 59 but if the choice is to use a short run or have to tear out a lot of stuff to run a new wire, the -59 will work.  Yes it is not the best but it will work.

Now if there are problems that make it un-useable, then the tear out must be done and cost be dammed.

there is no way that it would be worth the work or the time to install 6 over 59 in a place as short and small as a motorhome.the advantage would be very minimule at best

 

[99WinAdventurer37G]

there is no way that it would be worth the work or the time to install 6 over 59 in a place as short and small as a motorhome.the advantage would be very minimule at best

Thanks, The kid at Best Buy said I needed to run RG-6 Quad to get the best over the air HD.  I've been having trouble getting HD in the MH.  I have the TV, but I broke my antenna, and the kid at BB insisted I need RG-6 for HDTV. 

 

[ticat900]

Thanks, The kid at Best Buy said I needed to run RG-6 Quad to get the best over the air HD.  I've been having trouble getting HD in the MH.  I have the TV, but I broke my antenna, and the kid at BB insisted I need RG-6 for HDTV.

Ok now your sure your LCD HD TV has a internal tuner to actually show HD on your TV via roof antenna?
Obviously if the antenna is broke you will need a new one first off however this short run of 59 has no bearing on what your discribing. Make sure your TV has the HD tuner built in or no HD tv no matter what cable u have
just because your LCD says HDTV does not mean it has the tuner.!!!!

 

[Lou Schneider]

The kid at Best Buy said I needed to run RG-6 Quad to get the best over the air HD.

That may explain why he's working at Best Buy. 

Digital either works or it doesn't - all you need to do is get enough signal to the set so the picture doesn't freeze up or pixelate.  At that point the picture is it's as good as it's going to get.

Coax is rated in attenuation per foot, and the loss increases both with frequency and distance.

For satellite work, the distances we're talking about inside a motorhome make no real difference in using RG-6 over RG-59.  Just make sure the existing wiring isn't going through a splitter or amplifier that will block the DC voltage from reaching the dish.

If you're running 50 or 100 ft. out to a tripod mounted dish, definitely use the better RG-6 outside the rig.

Over the air digital TV is lower in frequency than what comes out of the Dish, so it's even less sensitive to what kind of cable you have in the walls.

 

[99WinAdventurer37G]

That may explain why he's working at Best Buy. 

Digital either works or it doesn't - all you need to do is get enough signal to the set so the picture doesn't freeze up or pixelate.  At that point the picture is it's as good as it's going to get.

Coax is rated in attenuation per foot, and the loss increases both with frequency and distance.

For satellite work, the distances we're talking about inside a motorhome make no real difference in using RG-6 over RG-59.  Just make sure the existing wiring isn't going through a splitter or amplifier that will block the DC voltage from reaching the dish.

If you're running 50 or 100 ft. out to a tripod mounted dish, definitely use the better RG-6 outside the rig.

Over the air digital TV is lower in frequency than what comes out of the Dish, so it's even less sensitive to what kind of cable you have in the walls.

I'm going to start another thread on "HD cable", as this no longer relates to the HD Dish Box.  Thanks