Hybrid car death rates are three times higher.

[DonTom]

Another reason for me to not like hybrid cars, besides being several times more likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles & more complex for very little benefit. I would rather own a pure ICE than a hybrid.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

 

[Lou Schneider]

Another reason for me to not like hybrid cars, besides being several times more likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles & more complex for very little benefit. I would rather own a pure ICE than a hybrid.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

I made that same decision when I bought my Mirage.

 

[DonTom]

I made that same decision when I bought my Mirage.

Good decision, IMO.

But by any chance, did you try a BEV? But perhaps that was before the BEVs took their expected nose-dive in price--especially if used--which will most likely change again after the next big jump in gasoline price.

FWIW, I probably qualify as a hybrid hater. I see no real advantage with true hybrids over ICE or EV. However, I do like the idea of the so-called "Extended Range Hybrids", which means a pure EV with a gasoline generator. If the generator can supply enough to truly be helpful, to a reasonably large battery in usable KWH, such as with the Dodge Ramcharger EV Pickup.

Adding a generator to a BEV doesn't really make it a hybrid, IMO. It's just a true BEV with a generator which does not ever need to run when the battery is charged up.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

 

[NY_Dutch]

Another reason for me to not like hybrid cars, besides being several times more likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles & more complex for very little benefit. I would rather own a pure ICE than a hybrid.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

Are we to believe no improvements have been made in the 4 years since the data used in the study? On re-reading the article, I see no mention of deaths, only fires.

 

[Oldgator73]

100% of the hybrids I have owned never caught fire. I was driving a 65 GTO in 1970 that caught fire. I easily put the fire out with somebodies new London Fog jacket.

 

[DonTom]

Are we to believe no improvements have been made in the 4 years since the data used in the study? On re-reading the article, I see no mention of deaths, only fires.

You only read the 2nd link. Read the first link, which starts with:

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"Hybrid car death rates ‘three times higher than petrol"​

I linked that one above too, so just click on that.

 

[DonTom]

100% of the hybrids I have owned never caught fire. I was driving a 65 GTO in 1970 that caught fire. I easily put the fire out with somebodies new London Fog jacket.

I never had any vehicle catch fire (knocking on wood). But the odds are still the odds.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

 

[NY_Dutch]

You only read the 2nd link. Read the first link, which starts with:

"

"Hybrid car death rates ‘three times higher than petrol"​

I liked that one above too, so just clik on that.

Ok, yep, I missed that link. I wonder how those numbers translate to US vehicles...

 

[DonTom]

Ok, yep, I missed that link. I wonder how those numbers translate to US vehicles...

Probably a lot higher in the USA if there is a difference. I say that because Europe has much tougher vehicle safety standards than the USA. Some American Vehicles are not allowed to be sold in Europe, such as the Tesla Cybertruck.

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Despite the tour, the Cybertruck is not yet road-legal in Europe. The vehicle does not comply with the European Union's safety and protection standards for pedestrians and cyclists. Tesla's VP of Vehicle Engineering, Lars Moravy, has indicated that the Cybertruck would require significant modifications to its structure to meet these regulations. The vehicle's design, particularly its sharp edges and heavy weight, poses challenges for compliance with European safety standards.


-Don-

 

[8Muddypaws]

In my area Prius drivers are absolutely crazy! They drive like they're immortal. When I see one on the road I say "Prius alert" to myself.

I have had to dodge them several times when walking my dogs.

 

[Derby6]

Motorcycle accidents are far more dangerous than car accidents, but you (Don) are all about your motorcycles. You can't pluck a statistic from the UK and say that's a reason not to buy or drive a Hybrid.
And spare me the story of how you would be dead if you were in a car but on a motorcycle, as you was able split traffic, so it can be safer -- We've heard the story.

 

[DonTom]

Motorcycle accidents are far more dangerous than car accidents,

I do not disagree with that, in fact, I was thinking the same thing when I posted that.

But that is not what I am comparing here.

FWIW, you can do the same with motorcycles. Sport bikes are a lot more dangerous to ride than are touring bikes by the statistics.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

 

[Oldgator73]

I never had any vehicle catch fire (knocking on wood). But the odds are still the odds.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

Well, I’m not odd so maybe I’m safe.

 

[John From Detroit]

I never had any vehicle catch fire (knocking on wood). But the odds are still the odds.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

Seen it happen several times, Radioed for fire once called a few times Almost had it happen once and it happened to my wife but self extinguished. Only three died, two may have died first and the third had other medical issues, That one the crash was Christmas eve, I got the fire out out (The initial fire) but some idiot just hat to light his cancer stick with gas and oil all about. (I put the fire out by telephone by the way).

 

[Chef Duane]

Only seen a few car fires but saw my share of boat fires (and rescues) when I was in the Coast Guard '77-'83. The attitude I took when I was riding (various motorcycles) was that every auto driver out there wanted to kill you and would find as many ways as they could to do so. Served me well. In 30 years of riding never had an accident.

 

[DonTom]

In 30 years of riding never had an accident.

How many close calls? I had more than I could count.

There are some safety advantages of motorcycles, such as no blind spots.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

 

[Chef Duane]

How many close calls? I had more than I could count.

There are some safety advantages of motorcycles, such as no blind spots.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

Only one that I can specifically recall. Guy tried to merge into my lane. I knew I wasn't in his blind spot since I made it a point to be aware of that but he decided to come over anyway thinking I would just make way. I did to as not to get hit but gave him a piece of my mind when I pulled next to him. I always tried to stay away from car drivers if possible.

 

[Oldgator73]

Okay, you’ve convinced me to get rid of of our Prius. I was thinking of this.

 

[TheBar]

There are some safety advantages of motorcycles, such as no blind spots.

-Don- Douglas, AZ

Not sure if I agree in this day and age where helmets are required in most places. I rode for 20 years without a helmet or having an accident but had a few close calls. It is good training for anyone to learn to drive defensively. Is why I credit only having one accident and that was when I was hit from behind sitting at a stoplight.

I started out in 1971 on a Yamaha 250 Big Bear (28 hp!), graduating to a Suzuki 550, then a Triumph Bonneville, a 750 Norton, an 850 Norton, and my last was a slightly wrecked 750 Honda Shadow I rebuilt in 1992.

The English bikes handled so much better than the Japanese IMO. Due to the front end rake angle. But when trading in wives in 1993 the new one didn't approve of riding and we moved to the country where riding wasn't as practical and no room to store the 3 I still had.

 

[whiteva]

I hate it when those little cars get caught under the bumper of my fuel guzzling truck. I finally found if you drag them over railroad tracks they will eventually roll free.