Chef Duane
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Where's that Ivermectin when you need it!! 
I think I now have the new COVID!
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Wasillaguy
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New England Journal of Medicine-
The time to sustained alleviation of all signs and symptoms of Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants who received nirmatrelvir–ritonavir and those who received placebo. (Supported by Pfizer; EPIC-SR ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT05011513.)
The time to sustained alleviation of all signs and symptoms of Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants who received nirmatrelvir–ritonavir and those who received placebo. (Supported by Pfizer; EPIC-SR ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT05011513.)
JudyJB
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Sorry to hear you got this version. I have had as many COVID vaccinations as I could get, plus a couple more than most people get since I have a weakened immune system. (How weakened is unknown, but I will find out more in mid-October at a doctor's appt.) I am headed to the pharmacy tomorrow to get the newest version vaccine. Have been exposed to the old COVID several times and never got sick, so I am anxious to get this new version ASAP. Based on medical recommendations, I will wait for flu shot until early November so it is most effective through the holidays when I will be around more people.
Nice try, but context matters. Nirmatrelvir-Ritonovir, otherwise known as Paxlovid, is for treatment of "high risk" individuals who have contracted the covid 19 virus.
Had you read the study instead of trying to make an anti-vaxxer statement you'd have clearly seen the study was strictly limited to "low risk" individuals who had contracted covid 19, ie., those who are at low risk of progressing to severe illness with or without intervention.
So it wouldn't therefore be earth shattering news that since Paxlovid is formulated as a covid intervention for "high risk" individuals it may not prove effective, make any difference, in treating individuals who would likely recover regardless.
If you've contracted the most recent strain of the virus, which is likely, the vaccination would be redundant. They won't vaccinate you regardless, if you're symptomatic.
Hope you're doing well.
DutchmenSport
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Everyone is different, that's for sure. Everyone reacts different to everything too. What works for one person does not necessarily work for someone else. (Kind of like how we all decide to clean out our black tanks in our campers, hum?).... anyway...
I hope you get over this, like.... immediately. Feeling miserable is absolutely no fun at all. It's draining and very frustrating. So, the best you can do is treat the symptoms the best that work for you.
I have VERY strong opinions on Covid that are not necessarily appreciated by everyone. But with that said, I can say, I hope you get over this quickly. No one want's to feel down-and-under, no matter what the cause! So, be careful, keep your doctor posted, keep isolated for a few days, and get rest. I think the rest is the best advise anyone can get when these things happen.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
I hope you get over this, like.... immediately. Feeling miserable is absolutely no fun at all. It's draining and very frustrating. So, the best you can do is treat the symptoms the best that work for you.
I have VERY strong opinions on Covid that are not necessarily appreciated by everyone. But with that said, I can say, I hope you get over this quickly. No one want's to feel down-and-under, no matter what the cause! So, be careful, keep your doctor posted, keep isolated for a few days, and get rest. I think the rest is the best advise anyone can get when these things happen.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
Tulecreeper
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I can only remember getting the flu shot once - 3 years ago because my doctor suggested it. I have not had the flu in probably 35+ years. I did contract covid in 2022, after I got the booster at the end of 2021.
To phrase it another way, you contracted covid in 2022 and weren't hospitalized, suffered any serious complications, and obviously didn't die, after receiving the booster at the end of 2021.
Meantime, let's be clear, the vaccine won't stop you contracting covid, it will however stop you dying from covid. It was no coincidence people largely stopped dying subsequent to widespread availability of the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine.
Kirk
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That was typo! I am actually 82. Old enough but don't rush it.
If you read the list of possible side effects of most modern medicines, the are scarry. I had a conversation with our doctor about that some years ago and she pointed out that the pharmaceutical companies get sued so much any more that they list everything anyone even suspected possible on those lists now. I did ask about the Paxlovid and she said that in her patients who have taken it, only 1 has experienced any side effects and she estimated that she had written more than 50 prescriptions for it. She has a very large practice of mostly senior citizens. She also only recommends it for high-risk patients and none of her patients that took Paxlovid have been hospitalized. Without it she figured that we in our 80's would run about a 40% chance of needing hospitalized and perhaps as much as 10% chance of fatality.
We had both had all of the various vaccinations for Covid except the new version which was just released. Our doctor has recommended that we get the flu vaccine asap and the covid within a month or so. Her experience has been that once you have Covid you are pretty safe for a few months.
I suspected you'd had the vaccine(s). Both of us tested positive last winter, but it was like a mild case of the flu and only lasted a few days. Were it not for the vaccines it likely could have been much more serious. And yes, Paxlovid is geared to those at higher risk. Matter of fact when you go in for your flu shot they'll offer you, as like me you're over 65, the enhanced version for those at higher risk. I and my bride just had both the flu and the latest covid @ the same visit.
Ernie n Tara
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Iwas tested positive earlier yhis year and hospilized for four days. Subsequently, I relapsed about a week and a half later and was recommited. This time I paid better attention to the treatment recommendations and was released after three days. I was kept on oxygen (first time) and a nebulizer.
It has now become apparent that I have long Covid and it's no fun. Still on oxygen at night and short of breath plus poor balance, etc. Pay attention to the medics!
Ernie
It has now become apparent that I have long Covid and it's no fun. Still on oxygen at night and short of breath plus poor balance, etc. Pay attention to the medics!
Ernie
Wasillaguy
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Nice try, but I did read the study and I made no statement whatsoever.
You managed two unfounded assumptions in one sentence, congrats!
rjshiflet
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Last time we had COVID, my wife and I were just returning from a three-week trip to Charleston, Savannah, Augusta, etc. On our way back to Texas my wife started feeling a bit strange, and by the time we got home she had all the symptoms. Took the test...sure enough she had it and it was a rough time for her. I caught it but it really was no worse than a common cold. Both of us confirmed with tests.
This was two years ago and we visited so many places there is absolutely no telling where we were exposed or caught it from. Likely we were exposed multiple places along the way. We both survived and haven't had it since then.
This was two years ago and we visited so many places there is absolutely no telling where we were exposed or caught it from. Likely we were exposed multiple places along the way. We both survived and haven't had it since then.
My bad, I now realize you were cleverly demonstrating how important it is not to chase acontextual garbage down anti-vaxxer rabbit holes. Of course both of us having read the study know it is as relevant to the efficacy of Paxlovid as it would have been were it also to find Paxlovid and a placebo were equally ineffective at treating athlete's foot. The trick is you just leave out the athlete's foot part and hope, "Paxlovid no more effective than a placebo" is what stands out. But then of course that would be stupid.
Oldgator73
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I need both of your contact information’s. I will be dropping my current family doctor and contacting you when I need medical advice. Are you able to do telemed with me and my wife and do you take Medicare and Tricare for Life?
Daffy
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Yeah this latest strain of Covid is a mf, going on 2 weeks of some type of symptom still. First 3 days were lost for sure, OTC cold remedies helped, am not a candidate for paxlovid due to being on blood thinners so I've just let it run its course.
First known time of getting it, had the 2 initial vaccines and one booster and have been subjected to many instances for possible contact. (Better half runs a grocery store that I have worked part time at)
Feeling much better now just some residual congestion, pretty sure in the beginning I hacked up a toenail.
TAKE VITAMIN D3 !!! I had gotten away from that regimen am back on it now.
Lastly anyones view on the vaccine is just conjecture, not enough time has passed for test results to be 100% factual. Plus we are all different in our immune makeup.
First known time of getting it, had the 2 initial vaccines and one booster and have been subjected to many instances for possible contact. (Better half runs a grocery store that I have worked part time at)
Feeling much better now just some residual congestion, pretty sure in the beginning I hacked up a toenail.
TAKE VITAMIN D3 !!! I had gotten away from that regimen am back on it now.
Lastly anyones view on the vaccine is just conjecture, not enough time has passed for test results to be 100% factual. Plus we are all different in our immune makeup.
workinonit
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I take 5000 units of D3 every day. I had no idea that helped. I am just getting over it and as you said it was really bad. For 3 weeks and lingering effects for quite a long time after that.
UTTransplant
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Vitamin d3 is actually one of the few substances that has a proven association with reductions in all infection severity, not just COVID. It improves immune health overall, and many of us have a d3 insufficiency. I know I do if I don’t take it as a pill. Being very fair skinned and keeping out of the sun plus being lactose intolerant means I don’t get much vitamin d naturally. I take 2000 units a day.
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We both caught Covid in 2021 at the end of our WY summer stay, although we were "fully vaccinated". We'd spent the summer isolated from everyone, until a dinner with friends on the last weekend.
The WY Doc offered us infused monoclonal antiobodies. We drove up to a hospital outbuilding, and a nurse waved to us in the car, motioning to enter the building. He sat us in comfortable armchairs, hooked up an IV and said "it takes 23 minutes. I set my watch and 23 minutes later he checked vitals before releasing us.
It wasn't a magic pill, and it took us a week or so to feel anywhere near recovered.
When we arrived home, our neighbor told me the treatment had been outlawed in CA.
Yesterday we both had vaccinations for the latest Covid strain and the flu shot.
The WY Doc offered us infused monoclonal antiobodies. We drove up to a hospital outbuilding, and a nurse waved to us in the car, motioning to enter the building. He sat us in comfortable armchairs, hooked up an IV and said "it takes 23 minutes. I set my watch and 23 minutes later he checked vitals before releasing us.
It wasn't a magic pill, and it took us a week or so to feel anywhere near recovered.
When we arrived home, our neighbor told me the treatment had been outlawed in CA.
Yesterday we both had vaccinations for the latest Covid strain and the flu shot.
My view on the vaccine is since it was introduced hospitals are coincidentally no longer having to rent refrigerated trailers to serve as temporary overflow morgues, that's 100% factual.
