Infared Heaters For MH

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pbalija

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Hi, I have been researching plug in electrical heaters to supplement using my propane furnace. I know a lot of you suggest 1500 watt ceramic heaters. I was looking at the new line of in house "Portable Infrared Heaters" they claim to be able to heat 500-1000 sq. ft, and some even have humidifiers and ion air cleaners. Did anyone try these heaters. I have searched on  popular websites and their reviews have been very good. Would like your feedback. :)
 
I would personally stay away from a radiant heater for space heating. Radiant heaters primarily warm up objects by radiating infrared energy from their heating elements; this would warm up an object or a person close to the heater quickly. This is similar to a fire place behind a glass door.
Ceramic heaters or other fan forced heaters tend to heat the air and circulate that air into an area to raise the overall temperature.
Visit CBS News article for some quick information on heating types.
As a note, I carry two ceramic heaters with me when I travel. One for living area, one for bedroom. I leave the RV heater fan on low to circulate air through compartments and augment the electric heaters.

Bob
 
As bobsharon says, infrared heats objects rather than air. And you aren't getting any more heat than the ceramic, since both are limited by the available power (amps).

Infrared heating is excellent for patios and other open-air spaces, where the infrared can travel to nearby objects/people and heat them, without losing btus to the air it passes through. Generally not so useful in enclosed spaces, but they still work because they heat up nearby objects, which in turn shed heat into the room.
 
As I mentioned, I have been researching these heaters, some come with blowers, that blow heated air into the space, they also have controlled thermostats and yet from what the specs and reviews I Have been reading are cool to the touch,the ones I am looking at are electric not propane like "Mr H_____, Lil buddy that's runs on propane, so you don' have to worry about any CO2 problem. Also, if tipped over hey shut off. Many of the reviews are from people who have used these in their homes, Bedrooms and living Rooms, and seem  to be very satisfied. Also, unlike a ceramic heater they do not rob the space of humidity. Feedback Please.
 
pbalija said:
. Also, unlike a ceramic heater they do not rob the space of humidity. Feedback Please.
Whether ceramic or radiant heat, humidity is strictly a function of water content and temperature. For a given water content the relative humidity will decrease as temperature goes up; you can't rob humidity from the heated space, no mater the electric heating device. Note that a fire can increase relative humidity in an enclosed area but there are O2 depletion and CO/CO2 to contend with.
 
Please clarity in layman's terms. I am trying to compare the two  heaters  Infrared vs ceramic...  many of the infrared come equipped with humidifiers and ceramic heaters do not...also from what I have read, ceramic heaters create a very dry enviorment and if not vented with a flow of outside air (crack open the vents) can produce a problem of collected condensation on the outside. I am not looking for this to replace my propane furnace (which I will run throughout the nightime temperatures...I will probably use this in the day where temps are higher to provide a comfortable temp and conserve on my propane...Due to technology many products have been improved and made to satisfy strick regs and more efficiency.
 
ANY electric heater will create a dryer environment because of simple physics. As the temperature of the room rises, the total moisture content remains the same, so relative humidity decreases, making the room feel dryer. An infrared heater has the same effect once the heated objects warm the rest of the room.  The only way to increase relative humidity is to add a humidifier. None of the portable infrareds I have looked at have built-in humidifiers, but I have seen larger heaters of both types that include humidifiers and sometimes HEPA air filters as well.  Conversely, any heater with a flame will add moisture to a room because moisture is a by-product of combustion. If you want extra moisture, a propane-based catalytic heater is a good choice.

Note that some "infrared" heaters do not actually radiate infrared to the surrounding areas. Instead, the infrared source is internal and it heats an heat exchanger inside the unit. A fan blows air over the heat exchanger which then blows out warm air, heating the room exactly like a ceramic heater.

I'm not clear on the problem you perceive with "collected condensation on the outside". Condensation occurs when a cold surface is exposed to moist air. RV's tend to get a lot of condensation on inner surfaces & windows because they are not well-insulated and thus are cold relative to the air inside. Increasing the relative humidity inside makes the condensation problem worse, not better.

Frankly, I think you (and we) are over-analyzing this. The practical differences are small and depend on particular situations and preferences. If you prefer the infrared type , get one. If you feel a humidifier is a benefit, get one. After a few months of use, let us know how it works out.
 
I went with one of the infra red heaters you are referring to. I bought it because of the blower and how quiet it is. Don't believe all the hype about that type of heater, it doesn't put out any more heat than any other 1,500 watt heater. It will keep my 38' motor home 20 degrees warmer than the outside temp. Another reason I bought it was because it also acts as a table for my printer. I am happy with it, just buy it for $69 not the $400 some cost.
 
I looked at ceramic and infra-red and decided to stick with my tried and true Alaska favorite and that is an oil filled electric radiator. Totally silent and heats my entire little 5th wheel and they are not subject to fire danger....they are a little bigger and they don't heat up fast, but I hate the sound of fans blowing and I wanted something that minimized electrical consumption as well.

We use these same heaters in Alaska at the Lodge which is on generator power 24/7 and we need lo electric consumption. They will easily heat a 10 X 15 room with no problem and like I mentioned - totally silent.

With this cold winter we have been having this year, I have been down to 15 degrees below zero and only had it on high that one time and was cozy! Of course I am in a small 20 foot 5th wheel and non-winterized (single pane windows etc).

Something to consider.

This is the exact one I have that I paid $80.00 for - now on sale for $50.00 HERE

Just another option to consider, especially if you like quiet!

Jim
 
May I suggest electric blankets or throws. I have one on my recliner and it keeps me quite warm while using very little electricity. I don't put it over me but use it like a seat cover.  Also, I use lower wattage (600 to 800) electric heaters. Higher wattage and propane heaters get too hot and pose a fire hazard.  Then too there's the old hair dryer to blow warm air up a pants leg, boot, or anywhere you need spot heat. Thrift stores often have them for a few dollars.
 
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