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which we wouldn't want because of additional weight it would add.
IIRC, the batteries can be removed in mine and then I can use the pull thingy without having the battery. Nice to have the option of either.

Noise spec on mine is 62 db at 7m @ 25% load. However, the spec is needed at above 3K, where mine gets quite loud compared to 25% where the low idle switch can be used.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
IIRC, the batteries can be removed in mine and then I can use the pull thingy without having the battery. Nice to have the option of either.

Noise spec on mine is 62 db at 7m @ 25% load. However, the spec is needed at above 3K, where mine gets quite loud compared to 25% where the low idle switch can be used.

-Don- Reno, NV
The Honda pull starts so effortlessly that a push button battery option is truly not needed. But whatever rocks your boat or trailer...
 
The Honda pull starts so effortlessly that a push button battery option is truly not needed.
I will try mine later. I never used the pull thingy.

I can start both of mine at the same time with the small wireless remotes, so that is what I have been doing.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
My pull rope thingy was also easy, but I had to do it twice on each genny to start from cold.

I did some more genny load testing today. This time on my Tesla. It would do 33 amps (7,260 watts) when set for 32 amps (7,040 watts) but for only a short time. Perhaps it increased the current automatically because the voltage was low. The Tesla didn't like it and would give an error message to try different charging equipment, a message I have never seen before, as it stops the charging. But it would charge for perhaps 30 seconds at the full 33 amps (note the voltage drop to 220 VAC):

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So I reduced my charge cable to 24 amps (5,784 watts, but says "6KW" below) and it was then happy, and I could then charge as long as I wanted, but takes 25 minutes longer to charge to full, but now back up at 241 VAC:

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The Bolt was less picky than the Tesla with the varying voltage for the genny J-cable at full load. The Tesla is too good at sensing the most minor charging issues and then shuts off the charging because it sees the unexpected somewhere. It even somehow knows when I am using a J-1772 to Tesla adapter. Regardless of where charged, it can only do its 48 amps (12 KW) if no adapter is used. With an adapter, 38 amps (9 KW) is the very max it will charge at. Not an issue here because I am well below the 38 amps anyway.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
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DonTom
Back on post #66 I commented on GenMax customer service. I was wondering how you found them to deal with?
 
I am in the battery starter camp. My honda was great but aftwr many years of use it got harder to start. If it had a battery start i would have kept it longer
I wonder, did you operate it using gasoline? Our generator has never tasted gasoline. It currently starts right up with a single light pull.
 
DonTom
Back on post #66 I commented on GenMax customer service. I was wondering how you found them to deal with?
Great on email. They responded quite quickly. I had to wait a couple of days but only because I sent the email on a Saturday when they were closed. I heard from them via email on the first Monday, in the early afternoon. Just after I modified the wire starter cable to be a 4-pin series cable (as expected!).

Also, the adapters got here a few days before they said they would in the email.

When I called on the phone, I got a recording. They never called back.

But perhaps they realized I was the same person who emailed them. No way for me to know.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
I wonder, did you operate it using gasoline? Our generator has never tasted gasoline. It currently starts right up with a single light pull.
My EFI gennies are gasoline only. Will not work with propane. I assume propane is better for quick starting.

Not that it is a big deal. I will probably never use the pull thingy again, unless I forget to keep the battery charged up. And even if I did, two pulls are fine with me, especially when it has not been started for several days.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
My EFI gennies are gasoline only. Will not work with propane. I assume propane is better for quick starting.

Not that it is a big deal. I will probably never use the pull thingy again, unless I forget to keep the battery charged up. And even if I did, two pulls are fine with me, especially when it has not been started for several days.

-Don- Reno, NV
For sure...and it doesn’t destroy the fuel system over time or smell bad in your campsite...

We also find using propane is more convenient than carrying and using gasoline which has a relatively short lifetime. Since we already use propane when "dry glamping in remote locations on earth" for our cooking, space heating, water heating and refrigeration appliances, we feel it makes good sense to also use it for our air conditioning appliance too.
 
It was a gas only generator
I think that explains the degradation in performance that you experienced. Both diesel and gasoline fuel work well if continuously used in a vehicle that is frequently driven. However, for a generator application where the generator isn't often used for long periods, these fuels destroy the fuel system over time. The only remedy is scheduled maintenance to clean and repair the fuel system frequently.
 
We also find using propane is more convenient than carrying and using gasoline which has a relatively short lifetime.
I find gasoline, untreated, lasts for years, but best to not use when cold if it has ethanol in it (colder weather makes fuel phase separation MUCH worse). But the gas station the closest to me here sells 87 octane with NO (0.00%) ethanol. Costs a little more, of course than their other 87 octane with ethanol.

I put that non-ethanol 87 in my gennies.

FWIW, I don't believe in additives in much of anything, and the "Sta-Bil" bottle says right on it "will keep gasoline fresh for one year". This makes me wonder if the gasoline lasts longer than the Sta-Bil.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
I've found that gas treatment like stabil in the gas tank and running the unit for a half hour or so every month works wonders for its startability and operability.;)
Safe travels and all the best.
 
However, for a generator application where the generator isn't often used for long periods,
I hope to remember to run mine for close to an hour every month. It will waste little energy because I will use it to charge one of my seven EVs. And this will also help keep the battery in the gennies charged. But I do have external chargers. This will also help give me room for more fresh gasoline sooner.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
I've found that gas treatment like stabil in the gas tank and running the unit for a half hour or so every month works wonders for its startability and operability
And I bet you will not notice any difference without the Sta-Bil. An exception could be if very cold, as sta-bil is supposed to help with fuel phase separation. If that claim is true or not, I have no idea.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
And I bet you will not notice any difference without the Sta-Bil. An exception could be if very cold, as sta-bil is supposed to help with fuel phase separation. If that claim is true or not, I have no idea.

-Don- Reno, NV
All I can say is that it works for me. ;)
I became a believer when I couldn't start my log splitter. I put about 16 ounces of stabil in the gas tank and bled the carburator float bowl. Let it sit overnight and the next day I tried pull starting the darn thing. On the second pull I almost fell on my butt when it kicked off on the second revolution.
It works for me. :p
I use it for the fuel for my generators, mower and chain saw.
I'm a born skeptic but when it works, who am I to argue?? :unsure:

Safe travels and all the best.
 
I'm a born skeptic but when it works, who am I to argue?
I agree! When a common well-believed superstition works well, nothing is lost by using it!:)

Some of my ICE motorcycles are not used for around a year. They always start right up, but that is normally during warmer weather. No additives ever.

BTW, I got this way when I purchased my 1971 BMW motorcycle (May, 1971). I read the warranty. It clearly said "if ANY additives are used in the gasoline or any of the oils, for any reason, the warranty is void".

-Don- Reno, NV
 
I agree! When a common well-believed superstition works well, nothing is lost by using it!:)

Some of my ICE motorcycles are not used for around a year. They always start right up, but that is normally during warmer weather. No additives ever.

BTW, I got this way when I purchased my 1971 BMW motorcycle (May, 1971). I read the warranty. It clearly said "if ANY additives are used in the gasoline or any of the oils, for any reason, the warranty is void".

-Don- Reno, NV
Now that you mention it, we had the same positive experience with our motorcycles too. They always started up fine. But they were Japanese (Honda and Suzuki) and they didn't see much inactivity as we used them for commuting to work to defeat Seattle area traffic congestion. And of course, they had powerful batteries and powerful starting motors...and no rope handle starting option...

We use stabilizer for our diesel tractor and self-constructed diesel generator. We also use propane fumigation to keep this generator fuel system clean and fully operational especially since this generator also uses vegetable oil and centrifuged/filtered waste engine oil for fuel too. This generator backs up our grid power, hydro power and perhaps future solar power at our remote southern Oregon homestead.

 

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