Jayco Denies Tank Failure Claim for Towing With Water in Tank

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A member shared a report from a Starcraft owner whose fresh water tank fell from a 2022 travel trailer while reportedly about half full, and Jayco allegedly denied reimbursement because the tank was not emptied before transit. Members broadly questioned that explanation, saying it would make dry camping and boondocking impractical unless the owner’s manual clearly states tanks must be empty while traveling.

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SargeW

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I just read an article that is almost unbelievable. I belong to many RV groups, mostly do the the sheer number of RV's I have owned. I just read a post on a Starcraft owners forum on Facebook (my current RV is a Starcraft) from a member that had a holding tank on his Travel Trailer fall out of the rig onto the ground. He posted a pic.

Holding tank fell out.jpg

He thought this may be an issue, so he contacted Starcraft, and ultimately Jayco as they own Starcraft. He presented the issue expecting to have Jayco offer to make the problem right. Instead he received a series of emails from Jayco declining responsibility. The reason just astonished me. The poster provided the email response he received from Jayco.

“These units are not made to travel with water in the tanks and doing so, typically leads to damage.”

and

“(T)he tank was not emptied prior to transit, Jayco respectfully declines to financially participate in coverage for repair reimbursement.”

and

“Please know the decision comes directly from management.”


This is not right and downright dangerous. Thankfully no one was harmed - this time!

The following was my reply to the poster after reading the response.

Jayco's statement is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard! So what Jayco is saying is that NO ONE can EVER dry camp without hook ups, or do ANY dispersed camping in one of their RVs???? That needs to be a sign clearly displayed on every unit that Jayco sells, regardless of price point! Pasted on the outside next to the entry door of EVERY unit Jayco sells!

You are not allowed to carry a full fresh water tank to go to a no hook up camping site EVER?? I would contact several authorities with this statement. NHTSA-National Highway Traffic Safety Association, (as the number of Jayco units travelling the country with a potentially hazardous condition) could fall out and cause death or serious or injury to the motoring public. The Better Business Bureau, for lack of a potential warning of a hazardous condition, and RIVA Recreation Industry Vehicle Association. Scream loud and long! And even better if you can get some "Consumer Advocate" person to look at it.
 
That"s the nuttiest thing in a long line of nutty stuff that I have read from Jayco. I guess I am one lucky person after almost forty years of towing travel trailers, some with water tanks filled to the max for several lengthy off the grid adventures.

Maybe Liz Amazing will take this up, if nothing more than to pass along what nutty stuff comes out of the current state of the industry. There are hundreds of rvs that spend their time completely unplugged for weeks at a time. Then travel and do a dump at their next stopover.
 
And just as an aside, I have communicated with the OP on the Facebook site. He gives me full permission to share his story. His rig was a 2022, so it could be out of his 3 year structural warranty, and if Jayco denied it for that reason, I would say oh well too bad. But for them to deny because you can't drive with anything in the your tanks!? Even fresh water!? Wow.
 
Stupid response.

I'd love to see that in court.

"You provide XX capacity water, and waste tanks and contend that the vehicle is only to be used dry. Where in the owners manual does it state that?"
 
The smart (and cheaper) way for them to go is to retract that decision and offer to have his tank put back up. Now we will see if anyone at Jayco is smart enough to realize that.
 
The smart (and cheaper) way for them to go is to retract that decision and offer to have his tank put back up. Now we will see if anyone at Jayco is smart enough to realize that.

I was an engineer. The engineers want to fix it. The bean counters are running numbers for payouts, recalls and all kinds of scenarios.

"Don't pay till we get sued," is the mantra. Paying is acceptance of design deficiency.

The same bean counters saved $15 per unit by using smaller gauge straps.
 
So, I would expect to see something to that effect in the Owner Manual of all the Jayco units out there in the world, before I would accept that kind of response from Jayco (or any other RV manufacturer.)
 
“These units are not made to travel with water in the tanks and doing so, typically leads to damage.”

and

“(T)he tank was not emptied prior to transit, Jayco respectfully declines to financially participate in coverage for repair reimbursement.”

and

“Please know the decision comes directly from management.”
Question: Does the owner's manual specifically say to empty tanks before travel?

And what is the url to download a complint from from the NTSC (National Traffic Safty folks)

Standard practice when a warranty claim is submitted is to deny if at all possible.
 
I have a Starcraft RV and my manual does not say that you cannot tow it unless the tanks are empty. Further info from the OP was that the tank that failed was the fresh water tank, which was about 50% full when the failure occurred. So Jayco's opinion is that you cannot move the RV with fresh water in the tank? That will make traveling to places like desert or forest campgrounds nearly impossible. The lack of logic is baffling.
 
Doesn't really surprise me as thin and lightweight as they build these things. Actually I've heard of this happening before on other brands although I've never heard of the manufacturer saying you can't move them with any water in them.

I've always realized in a light build it's best to keep tank weights and upper cabinet weights as light as possible when traveling. After my neighbor had her upper cabinet fall off I told her to keep the canned food and other heavy items on the floor till the destination was reached.
 
The DRV 5th wheel I use at my base camp has a known issue with the 100 gallon fresh water tank. The tank was molded with a perimeter flange for support, sufficient for stationary use but subject to failure if transported down the road with 800 lbs of water inside it. Many owners have successfully added additional bracing under the tank to support the weight,

On the other hand, Northwood has often stated their trailers are designed to be moved with full tanks.
 
The factory straps and connectors on our new camper are garbage. I added some ratchet straps to help support the tanks and not worry when they are full.
 
We either travel with a FW tank at least 1/2 full, or full when boondocking..
Something doesn't make sense here.
I can't imagine not being able to carry any water!!!
Safe travels and all the best.
 
Our Outdoors RV trailer handled better with a full fresh tank than with a half empty one - center of gravity issue I think. And ORV rigs, like Northwoods, are perfectly capable of traveling with a full tank.
 
The NFPA RV plumbing codes, which were adopted by the RVIA assn., state the supports must be sufficient to support a full tank while traveling.
You can read it yourself by searching the NFPA regulations. Their website has a read for free section.
A competent attorney, with knowledge of these regulations(Which congress adopted into federal law) can likely win a lawsuit against an RV company.
 
Easy fix - just dump your black and gray tanks before you leave your boondocking site. I'm still trying to figure out how to get fresh water to my campsite, so I can use my black and gray tanks, but I'm working on it.
Just what the RV industry needs - another dodge of responsibility to a problem that should not exist. Way to stand behind your product Jayco
 

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