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Anymore $8 billion claimed savings that were really just $8 million? The site also makes savings claims for money that has already been spent. Much of what DOGE claims has been easily debunked using public information.
Appears the database they got their data was incorrect and upon further reading Doge corrected the error when discovered and Elon addressed the issue.

Leah Sanders, the chief executive of D&G, said Wednesday that the original $8 billion value in the federal database had been incorrect. “This discrepancy appears to have resulted from a clerical error in the original government filing upon contract award,” she said in a statement. “The contract value had a ceiling of $8 million.”
 
Appears the database they got their data was incorrect and upon further reading Doge corrected the error when discovered and Elon addressed the issue.

Leah Sanders, the chief executive of D&G, said Wednesday that the original $8 billion value in the federal database had been incorrect. “This discrepancy appears to have resulted from a clerical error in the original government filing upon contract award,” she said in a statement. “The contract value had a ceiling of $8 million.”
How about the tens of millions of people they claim are getting SS that are either well over 100 years old or are dead. Or the million civil servants that did not reply to Musks email and you know who said these people either do not exist or are dead. The whole operation is costing us money not saving any.
 
at one point i was tech support for the contracts dept at a fortune 100 company. I wrote an app to calculate the savings the contract guys got when they renegotiated savings. Management dictated how the amounts were calculated and my job was to automate them so the executive admins didnt have to manually calculate it.

If you added up all the supposed savings they got it was more than the company spent. Everyone knew it wasnt right but it sure got a lot of the contract guys big bonuses.

it is very easy to claim unrealistic savings or use accounting tricks such as mark to market to get numbwrs you like more.

It is highly likely that the kids with a lack of experience also dont really know what they are looking at.
 
I don't doubt there's waste to be found, but nothing significant has been documented so far. It appears the definition of fraud being used by those in charge is fraudulent in itself. Where's the promised transparency...
I have managed 2 phases of a multi-phase municipal road improvement project. Both phases have exactly the same construction scope. The 1st phase was paid for with a state grant, the 2nd phase with a federal grant. The design fee for the 1st phase was around eight percent (8%) of the estimated construction cost. Due to the hoop-jumping required for the federal grant, the design fee for the 2nd phase was about sixty percent (60%) of the estimated construction cost. The 2nd phase had about 75% more roadway length than the 1st phase but due to the bureaucracy of the federal grant, the time required for the design of the 2nd phase was about 400% of the 1st phase. As an example of the waste, the project was basically curb and sidewalk replacement through a 3000 foot length of single family residential properties, generally measuring 50' by 100' and originally built in the 40's or 50's. We were tearing up the old and putting in the new in the same place. This work would not require establishing property lines as we were putting stuff back exactly where we found it. However, the federal grant required the right-of-way line to be established by survey so the design fee included deed review and boundary survey for about 100 properties. This extra cost was further exacerbated by the federal requirement to give some of the work to a Disadvantaged Business Entity (DBE). Because DBE's are guaranteed work, and they are limited in number, they don't need to be particularly competitive in their price or quality of work. As such, their involvement can raise the design price as they typically charge more than we do. Plus, we need to add a percentage of their fee to ours to check/fix their work before blending it into ours.

With respect to construction, part-time inspection was performed for the 1st phase. Inspection is billed hourly for our inspector's time on site. Inspectors typically cover multiple projects every day and don't stick around to watch something that is not particularly critical. For example, in the case of curb replacement, we don't normally need to watch them rip up the old curb or install the new forms, but we will stop in to check the completed forms and subgrade before they pour the concrete. In the 2nd phase, full-time inspection was required under the federal grant. If there is anybody doing anything on site, an inspector is required be there to watch and to prepare a report on the activity. This would include a lone laborer is stapling "Emergency-No Parking" signs to the telephone poles for the next day's work. This, among other bureaucratic requirements, pretty much triples the cost of the construction administration/inspection part of the project.

The only reason that municipalities apply for the federal grant is that it pays for the entire project (Design, Construction & Construction Administration) where the state grant typically pays for a substantial portion of the construction cost and sometimes pays for a piece of the construction administration cost. They would never be re-elected if they were this wasteful with the municipal budget.

I am responding with caution to your transparency question as to not get the thread shut down. What I will say is that the administration has been in place for a month, so I think your expectations are a a bit high.
 
Appears the database they got their data was incorrect and upon further reading Doge corrected the error when discovered and Elon addressed the issue.

Leah Sanders, the chief executive of D&G, said Wednesday that the original $8 billion value in the federal database had been incorrect. “This discrepancy appears to have resulted from a clerical error in the original government filing upon contract award,” she said in a statement. “The contract value had a ceiling of $8 million.”
Here is an alternate explanaination. You do have to wonder how journalists could figure out there was a problem by comparing claims to other data when it was missed by the experts at doge.

 
the experts at doge.
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You do have to wonder how journalists could figure out ...
Journalism is dead in America. There are no longer actual 'journalists' (very few, at least) as most are just activists for whatever side they advocate for.
 
Well, we know some incompetent govt employee entered it wrong so shame on someone for believing a govt system's number.
 
It's ironic your own joke portrays how much more adept the youngsters are with computers than supposed adults.
 
That's a good question. But it's one that can't be answered by anyone who is not directly involved in the overall process. If you don't understand the effort, how do you employ someone to work that effort. Conversely, if you don't understand the effort, how do you determine who needs to stay and who can be let go. That is the major downside to the current approach to cutting out waste.
If they are paying a full-time locksmith and he only had to respond to a certain number of calls that did not make it worth paying a full-time person then it would not take an expert to determine that it is a waste having that position.
 
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