My new RV is a . . . .

[DonTom]

I bought a 2022 Entegra Vision 27A 6 weeks ago. It was a nightmare. The generator would only run for about 2 minutes, in Texas during this heat you have to run it while you are driving to stay cool. Both cab windows were loud; the drivers side was just SCREAMING! We wore ear plugs and yelled at each other. All of the cabinets flew open as you were driving. The kitchen drain leaked dirty dish water down into both cabinets below it. A 3/4" piece of paint just flaked off. I made a list of 11 things and took it back to the dealer. The dealer has had it for 11 days so far and they haven't even looked at it. It was NOT FUN driving a Screaming Hot box down the freeway. You can guess how my wife feels about it. I am already looking into the lemon laws.

My 5.5 KW Genny works perfectly. Is your gas tank near full? They could shut off not far below a half tank indicated and start dying after a couple of minutes. Another issue with Onans dying is having the oil level near the full mark. Keep it below halfway full on the dipstick when screwed all the way in.

I had a very loud passenger window that wouldn't lock correctly, but I was able to fix it and now it is quiet--at least until I open it again. It would rattle of the slightest bumps. I will jave no reason to open it again, so I will just leave it closed as is.

Problems I had on my first long trip was two levelling pads fell off and the awning blew apart in a high wind gust while in Florida.

And a few small issues, such as a rear tire that I could not fill up with air, was fixed by the dealer before that trip.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Gary RV_Wizard]

Demonstrating once again that RV quality is horrible inconsistent. One can be quite excellent while another off the same assembly line can be a mobile disaster.

 

[fireboat0203]

My gas tank was completely full. I've never heard of keeping the oil level half way full! Why would that be necessary? I know that most generators will shut off if the oil level is too low! It consistently shut off after a couple of minutes. It didn't just shut down like I would expect a low gas level solenoid would act. It sputtered as if it was running out of gas.
Why did your leveling pads fall off? What can I do to prevent this?
I wanted to open the driver's window to pay a toll. Leaving it shut doesn't sound like a desirable fix. I also bottomed out somewhere in the rear when I came out of a gas station. I'm not sure what part was dragging yet. Have you had this problem?
Also I had 3/4" piece of paint flake off. My door is almost impossible to open occasionally. I am afraid that it will lock us out completely. Have you had this issue?

 

[DonTom]

My gas tank was completely full. I've never heard of keeping the oil level half way full! Why would that be necessary?

See here and the message after. But I do not know if it still applies to newer Onan gennies.


-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

Why did your leveling pads fall off? What can I do to prevent this?

Loose bolts. They are bolted down without any lock-tite. All it takes is a bumpy road. Look under your RV often. I do every morning during my walk-around before leaving to make sure all is okay. When they fall off, they could easily get somebody killed. Imagine if a motorcycle runs over one at night when they cannot be seen. They are heavy and dark. You don't want them left on any road. IMO, they should have a recall over this issue. I guess somebody has to be killed by one first.

After I lost two, I purchased two more and removed the two that were still on. Then I reinstalled all four with permanent lock-tite on the bolts and torqued them down extra tight.

Yes, I had the lock issue. Very easy to fix with some lock oil. I assume any thin oil will work, even WD40. Oil the crap out of it everywhere and then open and lock it several times. Clean up the mess and never have the issue again.

I was lucky my issue was only the passenger window. And what a big difference it made after I fixed it. My driver's side window is okay, even after being opened and closed many times already. But I assume there is a way to fix it, but nor real sure what you should try. i am not going to open my passenger window to try to fix it right. I will leave well enough alone. I doubt if I will ever have a need to open that window.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[fireboat0203]

Thank you! So you're pretty happy with your Entegra Vision?

 

[DonTom]

Thank you! So you're pretty happy with your Entegra Vision?

Yes I am. But I did have a few issues that were taken care of.

Things like this I don't care about and will leave off. Just be sure not to open yours unless the weather is nice--and then it will be fine. I was mainly using it for a motorcycle cover--but now I use a real motorcycle cover instead.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

FWIW, here is one in TX for $124K.https://www.rvusa.com/2022-entegra-coach-vision-27a-class-a-3135958

Old thread, but I must mention that the 124K$ you listed is nothing like mine which has every option possible. That probably explains most of the price diff.

For a couple of examples, my refrigerator is the quad-door, 12SF, not 8 SF. Mine has the large extra bed above the cab that comes down with a press of a button. Very handy to use when the slides are NOT out.

Lots of small options too, such as the pop-out AC extra outlet in the kitchen, which I find very handy. I have it so it works on my added inverter or the normal way (shore power or genny).

Other things I am not sure about, such as my three TVs. Not that it makes any difference to me, I have only used one of them, so far. I never even tried to turn the other two on.

But one option I wish I did NOT have is the tankless water heater. I would rather have the six-gallon one mentioned in your list. I wonder if the tankless cost more. It should be less, IMO.

Anyway, the point I am trying to make is when comparing motorhome prices, compare more than just the price even if the same model. Options differ greatly, which could be the reason for the price difference.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[DonTom]

I owned this "new RV" for several years but I learned a few things I did NOT know about it until I watched the below video. Such as the storage space to use under the bed to the left of the refrigerator. The guy in the YouTube did NOT mention several other storage locations such as under the seats and the King Bed, perhaps because those require removing a few screws, unlike this bed that is very easy to get to.

This little motorhome has hidden storage space just about everywhere I look, but I never looked under the bed mentioned in this video , and that is a lot of handy space (this Class A has four beds total, the one above the cab can be used with the slides in, which is sometimes handy).

I also did not know the rear bumper can be used for a sewer hose.

The video shows two things a little different. My refrigerator is the same type four-door but is darker. And the shower is different. I have never seen that slide thingy before in a shower. Everything else shown is exactly the same in this rig.

-Don- Tonopah, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

I have that slide "thingy" in our coach, and it was very handy since I use a shower chair. I had one installed in the shower stall in our house for the same reason.

 

[DonTom]

I have that slide "thingy" in our coach, and it was very handy since I use a shower chair. I had one installed in the shower stall in our house for the same reason.

I am not sure if I would want one or not, since I have never even seen one before.

Does your coach have a tankless water heater? The reason I ask is because the stupid tankless water heaters they put in newer RVs these days go from ice cold to hot enough to burn and then back to normal each and every time the water is turned off and back on, for a military style shower. I need to make sure the water doesn't freeze or burn me by aiming it away from me until the temp stablizes each time.

While I got used to it, and know how do deal with it, IMAO, tankless water heaters are the stuidest things they ever put in RVs. My Y2K RV six gallon tank heater works MUCH better and can run from 120VAC to save propane when available.

IOW, how easy is it to aim that thingy away from you when the water is on?

-Don- Tonopah, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

I am not sure if I would want one or not, since I have never even seen one before.

Does your coach have a tankless water heater? The reason I ask is because the stupid tankless water heaters they put in newer RVs these days go from ice cold to hot enough to burn and then back to normal each and every time the water is turned off and back on, for a military style shower. I need to make sure the water doesn't freeze or burn me by aiming it away from me until the temp stablizes each time.

While I got used to it, and know how do deal with it, IMAO, tankless water heaters are the stuidest things they ever put in RVs. My Y2K RV six gallon tank heater works MUCH better and can run from 120VAC to save propane when available.

IOW, how easy is it to aim that thingy away from you when the water is on?

-Don- Tonopah, NV

My coach has a conventional 6 gallon water heater. The slide lets the shower head be adjusted to what ever level you want it. Since the shower head is the typical telephone style hose connected device, it can be easily aimed anywhere you want it, or removed from the holder for hand use, or even shut off for navy showers. In the larger shower stall in the house, I have both the slide with a handheld shower head and a conventional shower head in the standard location. I need my daughter's help showering now, and having that much flexibility makes it easier on both of us.

 

[DonTom]

My coach has a conventional 6 gallon water heater. The slide lets the shower head be adjusted to what ever level you want it. Since the shower head is the typical telephone style hose connected device, it can be easily aimed anywhere you want it, or removed from the holder for hand use, or even shut off for navy showers. In the larger shower stall in the house, I have both the slide with a handheld shower head and a conventional shower head in the standard location. I need my daughter's help showering now, and having that much flexibility makes it easier on both of us.

Thanks for the info.

I wonder if such will have any advantage to me and how much trouble it will be to change to that style in this.

But I am so used to this thing as is, I feel a change is unnecessary. OTOH, I won't know for sure until I try it.

-Don- Tonopah, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

In your RV, the biggest advantage would be just the flexibility of having the shower head holder located where it's most convenient for you. When my wife was alive, we could easily move the shower head to the locations we each preferred. Since you're alone as I am, if I was still able to stay in the RV, I probably wouldn't have much need to adjust it once I found my preferred height. If the current location works well for you, why change anything.

 

[Lou Schneider]

While I got used to it, and know how do deal with it, IMAO, tankless water heaters are the stuidest things they ever put in RVs. My Y2K RV six gallon tank heater works MUCH better and can run from 120VAC to save propane when available.

Both my Arctic Fox and DRV 5th wheels have 12 gallon Suburban water heaters. Funny thing is, their outside wall cutouts are approximately the size of an Atwood 6 gallon water heater (6 gallon Suburbans use a smaller hole). They have all of the advantages of any tank type heater for Navy showers and I never worry about running out of hot water if I want to let the water run.

 

[DonTom]

Both my Arctic Fox and DRV 5th wheels have 12 gallon Suburban water heaters.

My Y2k has an Atwood with a Hott Rod electric heater. Six gallons is all I need, works perfectly for one person such as just me.

They say the Hott Rod is good for ten gallons max. Can you run yours on electric? That would be even better.

But IMAO, anything is better than a tankless, in at least most cases.

-Don- Hawthorne, NV

 

[DonTom]

I also did not know the rear bumper can be used for a sewer hose.

But I discovered it is totally useless for a sewer hose. It cannot have any type of connector on the hose to fit in there.

But the extra storage area under the couch bed is very handy and roomy, which I did not know about until I watched the video.

-Don- Gold Run, CA