No more rent moving to an RV

[Firstime RVer]

Anther reason to put the tip into the price and no longer have tips, just like most other countries. The reason we tip is not for the good vs. poor service as you just said.

-Don- Auburn, CA

It seems to me that if you include the tip in the price, it takes away any showing of appreciation. You also just take away any incentive to excel.
If the system has been working why try to "fix" it?
I was brought up to say please and thank you.. These days It seems we are all so self absorbed, that we forget to consider other people's feelings or needs.
Safe travels and all the best.

 

[Kittykamper]

Sorry I steered this train off topic with my talk about tipping the trash man! Heeheehee! You guys were originally talking about tipping. Truthfully, I wish we didn’t have to tip. If other countries don’t do it, why do WE?

 

[Derby6]

Sorry I steered this train off topic with my talk about tipping the trash man! Heeheehee! You guys were originally talking about tipping. Truthfully, I wish we didn’t have to tip. If other countries don’t do it, why do WE?

Um because we are our own free country. I don’t want most of the other country customs.

 

[Kirk]

If other countries don’t do it, why do WE?

Because other countries pay the help better. As an example, Australia has a minimum wage of $25/hour ($17.60 US) and they do not tip. In this country, employers have taken advantage of the practice of tipping to pay those workers less, if at all. US minimum wage is $7.25/hour. On the other hand, when we were there in 2015, the bill for two of us at McDonald's was nearly $30.

 

[Derby6]

Fast food don't receive tips normally. And I support lower minimum wages.
Minium wage jobs are made as entry point job for folks as they progress their skills and education to move up (in a company) or into career type job. Minium wage is not designed for folks to remain in for a lifetime to raise a family, own a house, build retirement, etc....

 

[garyb1st]

Um because we are our own free country. I don’t want most of the other country customs.

Which countries are you referring to? I've been to England, France, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Bermuda, Canada, Mexico, Ecuador and Saudi Arabia. Other than Saudi Arabia, I don't think the customs are all that different. I won't say why, but If I were a younger man, I'd move to Canada.

Maybe if restaurant workers were paid a living wage, tipping wouldn't be necessary.

 

[TheBar]

People, either you get it, or you do not. Tipping has nothing to do with wages. It is about showing appreciation to people who work harder than the person next to them. They deserve it.

Those of us who believe in tipping may leave 10% for someone "just doing their job". But I will go 30% for someone who really goes beyond what is expected of them, or 50% if they look like they're being hit hard and being overworked.

If you are heartless cheapskate and do not "get it", I have sympathy for your spouse or anyone who has to work with you. Don't leave a tip Scrooge.

 

[Derby6]

Which countries are you referring to? I've been to England, France, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Bermuda, Canada, Mexico, Ecuador and Saudi Arabia. Other than Saudi Arabia, I don't think the customs are all that different. I won't say why, but If I were a younger man, I'd move to Canada.

Maybe if restaurant workers were paid a living wage, tipping wouldn't be necessary.

Too many to list. I said most countries. I’ll list a few I’ve been to.
Thailand, Vietnam, Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait, Bosnia-herzivagnia<sp>, Brunei, Malaysia, Afghanistan.
A few others I’ve not personally visited but not up for their current customs. Cuba, Venezuela, Oman, Congo, Syria, Somolia.
Been to Germany, Canada, and France as well. Didn’t make me want to move there.
I’m confident I’ve been a few other countries I’ve forgot at the moment.

 

[Gary RV_Wizard]

People, either you get it, or you do not. Tipping has nothing to do with wages. It is about showing appreciation to people who work harder than the person next to them. They deserve it.

Those of us who believe in tipping may leave 10% for someone "just doing their job". But I will go 30% for someone who really goes beyond what is expected of them, or 50% if they look like they're being hit hard and being overworked.

I agree the original notion of tipping was a reward for better service, but that seems to be no longer the case. In most any discussion the debate immediately turns to a minimum livable wage and perhaps the idea that customers should tip simply because a person in an entry level job is low-paid. I don't buy that. But I do tip generously (30% or more) when the service warrants it.

 

[Kirk]

I won't say why, but If I were a younger man, I'd move to Canada.

I understand that. Our friends in Australia have offered to help us transition to living there and were it not for the distance from kids, grandkids, and other relatives, we might seriously consider it. I have friends who recently became permanent residents of Italy and a cousin who with her husband has been an expat in Mexico for more than 10 years.

 

[Derby6]

Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence--But once you are there and look back your original pasture was greener and you soon find out it's harder to cross back.