Please explain the difference 30 amp and 50 amp

stanczak

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I understand the 50 amp will run more appliances, but can you tell me if I need to buy a 50 amp plugin for a 27" class c motorhome (the 30 amp is what came with it). What are the disadvantages to a 30 amp?

Can you put a 50amp adaptor on the 30 amp cord? Or do I need to buy a new cord?
 
Your coach is wired for 30.  A converter will allow you to plug in to a 50, but will only use 30, it can be useful when you have a site with only 50.  Happened to me last week in Moab.  Plug in the 50 to 30 adapter and my 30 amp cord into it.

In a coach like mine, wired for 30 amps, but with 2 roof AC's, it would be nice to have been wired for 50 so that both AC's could run, I have a device that shares the load, so both compressors do not kick at the same time, and in most coaches this is the main reason for going to 50.  Until of course you go into bigger coaches with a lot more appliances.  Your class C will not have anything like this.

To follow will be about 20 more explanations.  Likely to include the math version of 20 amps. 

Enjoy the trip, and some will enlighten you into how they come up with 2 30 amp circuits actually equaling 50 amps.
 
To follow will be about 20 more explanations. .

Bill, you've been around here too long  ;D
 
Tom, not just here.  The mathematical difference is 20...

Oh, and the I only use 20 of the 30,, nobody really needs 50 response. 
 
Having a 50 to 30 adaptor for your 30 amp plug is not needed but may come in handy. My RV is 30 amp and last summer I stayed at a park and plugged into the 30 amp plug on a pedestal that had both 30 and 50 amp plugs. Went inside and found no power so reset the breaker on the pedestal and was OK. The next day the breaker popped again so I pulled out the 50-30 adaptor and plugged into the 50 amp plug, no more issues the rest of the week.

 
stanczak said:
I understand the 50 amp will run more appliances, but can you tell me if I need to buy a 50 amp plugin for a 27" class c motorhome (the 30 amp is what came with it). What are the disadvantages to a 30 amp?

Can you put a 50amp adaptor on the 30 amp cord? Or do I need to buy a new cord?

You can buy an adapter, it will have a 30 amp female and 50 amp male plug on it.  You don't need to buy a new cord. An adapter may come in handy, or it may sit in your comartment and collect dust. That would all depend on where and how you use your MH.

Your MH is designed to use only 30 amps worth of power at a time. This is equivalent to a narrow street. Cars and trucks can both use it. If a BIG truck is coming, the cars have to slow way down and let it inch by. If two big trucks both want to use the street then one has to wait until the other is past before it can continue. Your air conditioner is a truck. It's a big truck when it starts and shrinks a little while it's running. Your electric water heater can be pretty big, your lights are motorscooters, your battery charger is a big pickup truck, your electric coffee maker is a pickup truck, your George Foreman griddle is a big truck, see where I'm going? If you put the George on to heat up, start washing dishes with lots of hot water and then the AC kicks on, you just overloaded the street, and now the cops have to come and restore order, or you have to go out and reset the breaker.  That is the disadvantage of 30 amps. While you can live well with 30 amps, you have to think about what you're using at any given time.

50 amps is a 5 lane in each direction freeway. You can put several semi-trucks on it at a time and it doesn't care. Unfortunately if you've got a small street, it's tough to build a freeway on the same plat of land. You'd be better off selling that place and buying a place designed for the freeway.

For a comparison, you have a 30 amp system in your MH which is adequate for most users with just minor inconveniences if any. 50 amp systems in most larger rigs are adequate for most users with very little thought to what's on at any given time. Some luxury MH's have 100 amp systems for almost unlimited capacity. Your home will probably have a 200 amp system which will allow trouble free use of virtually anything normally found in a home. If grandpa has a big shop attached to his house, (or it's an enormous house) it may have a 400 amp service. And Al Gore's house has a wire directly from the coal fired electric generating plant.

Pancake Bill has now read this 4 times trying to figure out why I didn't use the water hose example of how electricity works.  :eek:

Ken
 
Wow, no one has brought up that 50A is really 100A :)
 
You just did  ;D
 
See?  didn't I tellyou that?  Water hose analogy?  Water will short the electric. 
4 times?  Skipped thru 1 time. 

 
stanczak said:
Thank you everyone for the replies.

We hope you were able to glean some intelligence out of all the humor.
 
As the years go by, we're finding more and more badly worn 30 amp outlets at our assigned sites. At one recent site, the outlet was so loose that the plug literally fell out when I let go of it. Our 50/30 adapter has been a great help in those situations.
 
I installed my own RV site on my daughters farm and have 100 amp ran to the pedestal. My motor home is wired for 30 amp.  I plug it into the 50 with the adapter. My water heater and two electric heaters inside run off the 30 amp and I use the 20 amp for two electric heaters underneath during the winter months. Had no problems all winter. I have the on board gen as well as a back up gen in case of total power failure. I also run full time off a 100 lb propane tank and have two 20 lbs for back up. The on board propane tank has been full since Nov last year (Emergency) use only.
 
Just to clarify Ned's comment (and answer the original question); 30A service is just that, one leg rated for a maximum of 30 Amperes at 120 Vac. Fifty Amp service is two legs (circuits) rated for a maximum of 50 Amperes at 120 Vac EACH.  Thus 50A is actually 50A time 2 or 100A total (about three times the power).

Ernie
 

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