Prescription Medical Discount Cards?

[rvlifer]

The Vox article you cite is mostly BS.

Could be but it still dont explain why it costs so much more in the us

 

[Professor David]

Could be but it still dont explain why it costs so much more in the us

Basic corporate greed due to a broken health care system....what else is new? We need a single payer system or Medicare for all like every other developed country in the world.

As far as the price of human insulin since 2023 see post #11. Your article is out of date from 2019.

 

[Larry N.]

Frederick Banting, Charles Best, and James Collip essentially gave the patient to the U of Toronto (for $1 dollar).

You probably need to check spelling: Patient and patent are obviously not the same...

 

[Tulecreeper]

Basic corporate greed due to a broken health care system....what else is new? We need a single payer system or Medicare for all like every other developed country in the world.

As far as the price of human insulin since 2023 see post #11. Your article is out of date from 2019.

 

[gwinger]

"We were not prepared for the listed price of nearly $1700 for a 90 day supply..."

You are lucky. I was given a prescription for Trelegy for my emphysema. It was $47 a month for the first two years and then suddenly it jumps to $2000 per month. There is no generic. I am forced to buy Trelegy from a pharmacy in India and it is only $170 a month Same exact inhaler just priced outrageously in the US only.

GSK, the makers of Trelegy have an assistance program. I called the listed phone number and the agent told me I met the qualification parameters. I sent the form in last week.

 

[Professor David]

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Maybe you shouldn't take your Medicare and Social Security if you feel like that.

 

[Professor David]

You probably need to check spelling: Patient and patent are obviously not the same...

Thanks Mr. Grammar Policeman. My age related brain disorder has me mixing up words and screws with my spelling.

 

[Larry N.]

Thanks Mr. Grammar Policeman. My age related brain disorder has me mixing up words and screws with my spelling.

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I'm not trying to be a grammar policeman (or in this case a spelling cop), it's just that when I saw the same spelling problem repeatedly through the post I thought it might be helpful to you to know. BTW, it's jarring (to me at least) to see a wrong word used like that and had it only been once or twice I'd not have said anything -- nor did I know you had a problem.

I'll try to remember that you don't need help, but in my old age (81) I might forget...

 

[Professor David]

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I'm not trying to be a grammar policeman, it's just that when I saw the same spelling problem repeatedly through the post I thought it might be helpful to you to know. BTW, it's jarring (to me at least) to see a wrong word used like that and had it only been once or twice I'd not have said anything -- nor did I know you had a problem.

I'll try to remember that you don't need help, but in my old age (81) I might forget...

No problem

 

[John From Detroit]

BTW...if you are still with me...Human insulin is preferred over bovine insulin for several reasons, including:
Lower immunogenicity
Human insulin is less likely to cause an immune reaction than bovine insulin. Bovine insulin differs from human insulin at three amino acid positions, making it more likely to cause an immune reaction.
Fewer skin reactions
Subcutaneous injections of human insulin are associated with fewer skin reactions than animal insulins.
Faster absorption
Human insulin is absorbed more rapidly from the injection site than animal insulins.
Superior purity
Recombinant human insulin is considered to be of higher purity and pharmaceutical quality than animal or semisynthetic insulin.
In addition, no cows are killed to produce the human insulin.

Lower level of hyopglycemic awareness due. I suspect, to lack of C-Peptide leads
to greater incidenc of potentially "Highway Hypos" Causing traffic accidents. (NOTE there was a study on this. I never saw the raw data but the number of Died by Traffic accident who tested Hypo was scary in the raw data) more in a paragraph or two.

And of course a higher incidence of nighttime hypos forgetting to wake up in the morning.

If you can get a copy of an animal insulin warnings list
And compare it to a "human" Warnings list
notice how much LONGER the Human list is.

That study... Along about 1992 give or take a bit I noticed a huge uptick in "highway Hypos" in fact in 15years My troopers came across one diabetic (Twich)who went Hypo on the freeway. Both times he sensed it and pulled off on the shoulder in his Midas Motor home. Both times he was taken to the same hospital This was in 1977... First time I handed the troopers off to a Detroit Police dispatcher for directions to the nearest ER. (New to city) 2nd time I'd driven past that ER.

Suddenly there highway hypos all over creation... We were having better than one a month (1991) Two things had happened.. The end of animal source and the DCCT's "lower is better" mantra.

Without the C-peptides (my theory_ that come along for the ride on the animal source...People were not aware (As the 1977 case)they were going hypo. Many accidents and one death that I had to deal with.

A couple more other departmetns dealt with.

I mentioned this in the Compuserve Diabetes forum... a Fellow diabetic member in England took it to his local college/university which is where the study was done.

Alas he died before he could relay the final findings back to me.

 

[Professor David]

Lower level of hyopglycemic awareness due. I suspect, to lack of C-Peptide leads
to greater incidenc of potentially "Highway Hypos" Causing traffic accidents. (NOTE there was a study on this. I never saw the raw data but the number of Died by Traffic accident who tested Hypo was scary in the raw data) more in a paragraph or two.

And of course a higher incidence of nighttime hypos forgetting to wake up in the morning.

If you can get a copy of an animal insulin warnings list
And compare it to a "human" Warnings list
notice how much LONGER the Human list is.

That study... Along about 1992 give or take a bit I noticed a huge uptick in "highway Hypos" in fact in 15years My troopers came across one diabetic (Twich)who went Hypo on the freeway. Both times he sensed it and pulled off on the shoulder in his Midas Motor home. Both times he was taken to the same hospital This was in 1977... First time I handed the troopers off to a Detroit Police dispatcher for directions to the nearest ER. (New to city) 2nd time I'd driven past that ER.

Suddenly there highway hypos all over creation... We were having better than one a month (1991) Two things had happened.. The end of animal source and the DCCT's "lower is better" mantra.

Without the C-peptides (my theory_ that come along for the ride on the animal source...People were not aware (As the 1977 case)they were going hypo. Many accidents and one death that I had to deal with.

A couple more other departmetns dealt with.

I mentioned this in the Compuserve Diabetes forum... a Fellow diabetic member in England took it to his local college/university which is where the study was done.

Alas he died before he could relay the final findings back to me.

Interesting. Let me know if u find any more info on this.

 

[John From Detroit]

Interesting. Let me know if u find any more info on this.

This was brought to light in around 1990 or 1990s.. I no longer have a connection to the study in England (As I said my contact died.. Complications of old age and diabetes.. We tend to do that ... Eventually (So does everyone else)... Well he was alive in WW II so.. ) and the on-line source went dark several years ago so I'll not get more than is already on the Combined Health Information Database.

Over two dozen small studies all but one (The smallest) Of which suggested there was a problem with Hypo Unawareness when using "Human" insulins. ALL of them save one.

That one had only 8 patients.. IT was LIlly's submission study.

 

[Tulecreeper]

Maybe you shouldn't take your Medicare and Social Security if you feel like that.

Apples and hub caps. I paid into both Medicare and SS, therefore I am owed some of that back. Socialism is where those with the means pay into the pot but they get no more back from it than someone who never paid a dime. I certainly don't want to be throwing my hard-earned money into a system that Joe down the street never contributed to, but he garners the same benefits from it as I do. Should Joe also get a claim on the pension I paid into through my employment with the government over 30 years?

 

[Professor David]

Apples and hub caps. I paid into both Medicare and SS, therefore I am owed some of that back. Socialism is where those who with the means pay into the pot but they get no more back from it than someone who never paid a dime. I certainly don't want to be throwing my hard-earned money into a system the Joe down the street never contributed to, but he garners the same benefits from it as I do. Should Joe also get a claim on the pension I paid into through my employment with the government over 30 years?

Nope...Medicare and Social Security are socialist programs.

 

[Tulecreeper]

Nope...Medicare and Social Security are socialist programs.

Nope, a socialist program would give everyone the same amount from the pot no matter how much, or how little (if any) you put in. Social Security is different for everybody depending on how many years you worked, how much you made , etc. And Medicare is different depending on whether or not you have a Supplement or Advantage policy, what your current income is, etc. Not everyone's Medicare coverage is the same.

 

[Professor David]

Nope, a socialist program would give everyone the same amount from the pot no matter how much, or how little (if any) you put in. Social Security is different for everybody depending on how many years you worked, how much you made , etc. And Medicare is different depending on whether or not you have a Supplement or Advantage policy, what your current income is, etc. Not everyone's Medicare coverage is the same.

The basic Medicare package is the same for everyone. Of course, you can get supplements, etc... Medicare for All would work like Medicare. You sound like one of those people that want the federal government to stay out of their Medicare. In Medicare for All one could potentially get additional supplements as needed.

 

[CharlesinGA]

Thanks Mr. Grammar Policeman. My age related brain disorder has me mixing up words and screws with my spelling.

I just blamed your spell checker.

Charles

 

[Professor David]

I just blamed your spell checker.

Charles

You are very kind! Since a big part of my past life was writing and I actually filed patents my own discoveries in that past life (not patients), it saddens me that my brain is slipping away. Aging sucks but the alternative sucks more.

 

[gwinger]

The basic Medicare package is the same for everyone. Of course, you can get supplements, etc... Medicare for All would work like Medicare. You sound like one of those people that want the federal government to stay out of their Medicare. In Medicare for All one could potentially get additional supplements as needed.

I do not agree with Medicare for all. I paid into it all my working life
"Medicare taxes are part of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). They are automatically deducted from employees' paychecks to fund Medicare and Social Security programs".
Medicare For All will give the same benefits to people who never worked.

 

[Professor David]

I do not agree with Medicare for all. I paid into it all my working life
"Medicare taxes are part of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). They are automatically deducted from employees' paychecks to fund Medicare and Social Security programs".
Medicare For All will give the same benefits to people who never worked.

I completely understand your concern about free-loaders. I don't like it. I worked very hard for 50 plus years before I retired. That is a problem that could be addressed. BTW...presently...Individuals that don't currently have health care insurance or medicare show up a emergency rooms and must be treated, which costs tax payers a huge amount in waste.

You may not agree but I believe we (not our current politician class on the far right and far left) are smart enough to develop a Medicare for all system (with auto deductions like Medicare and SS, etc...) to fix our current screwed up/unsustainable system. Something has to be done to fix the current health care system that is out of control on several levels including unsustainable costs (just like our crazy/staggering national debt which are intertwined ). If you have an alternative, I'd love to hear it. Please let me know.

The good news is we have models for a Medicare for all systems in every developed country on this globe besides the US. Some work better than others. Plus we have the VA health care system, current Medicare and other socalistic-hybrid social systems like SS in the US that work very, very well. Why not take what works in other systems and come up with a US system to fix a serious problem for future generations? Most of us old guys/gals are fine (my personal health care is fantastic) but there is a train wreck coming after we are probably gone.