Propane vs All-Electric Diesel Pusher With Aqua-Hot

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The original poster is considering a Tiffin RED 33AA diesel pusher and asked whether RVers who moved from propane furnace and stove setups to Aqua-Hot or Oasis hydronic heat missed having propane. Members who had hydronic systems praised quieter, more even heat, basement heating, engine-assisted hot water while driving, and in some cases preferred induction and convection cooking over propane ovens.

Several members also pointed out tradeoffs: Aqua-Hot may need shore power, generator power...
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Lee, just remember that AquaHot heaters will still need diesel in cold weather. The electrical component just won’t keep up then. And Larry N had an all-electric coach at Quartzsite with us a number of times. Maybe drop him a message if he doesn’t reply here.
 
I've been beside a diesel rig and had to deal with the fumes before, very unpleasant, it was from his generator though. We were boondocked along the Colorado river though and we were all parked side by side.

My case for it would be out in Quartzsite alone not bothering anyone though, and if plugged in running it off electric.
He should have used a Gen-Turi on the generator- that solves that problem.

As Pam says, my Newmar Ventana was all electric, and I had the Oasis (Newmar's hydronic system similar to the Aqua Hot) that ran on both diesel and electric.

When I was plugged in to shore power, I used the electric portion (same as I did in the Beaver I had with Aqua Hot) unless it was so very cold that the electric couldn't quite keep up. That was a rare occurrence for us, as that would have been under 30º F in most cases, and I found even then that I could turn on the diesel function for a short time, until the water system got hot (usually not more than ten minutes or so), then rely on the electric to keep it there most of the day, with the diesel function turned off.

When I was boondocking (such as at Quartzsite), I did have to run it on diesel during the night on those rare occasions when it got cold enough, but I usually tried to park such that the fumes wouldn't bother anyone -- note that, unlike at least one comment above, my Oasis exhaust was on the passenger's side, as was the Aqua Hot exhaust on my Beaver. The generator exhaust on both was on the driver's side.

So in the 11 years that I was driving DPs with hydronic systems, I probably didn't use the diesel function more than a handful of times other than at Q, and not much more then. In point of fact, we got plenty of hot water from the electric function, even at Q, during the time we ran the generator morning and evening for cooking, recharging batteries, etc. And we did use a Gen-Turi for the generator.

I would also note that the (much) more common propane systems aren't as bad as the hydronic in terms of exhaust, but are LOTS noisier inside, with much less even heat, and somewhat noisier outside, as well.

It occurs to me that I probably should mention that although the Ventana was all electric, the Beaver had propane and we never used the propane oven (the microwave/convection combo was great), though we had to use the burners. Still, after a while we also had a portable induction "burner" in the Beaver.

Hope this helps, Lee.
 
He should have used a Gen-Turi on the generator- that solves that problem.

As Pam says, my Newmar Ventana was all electric, and I had the Oasis (Newmar's hydronic system similar to the Aqua Hot) that ran on both diesel and electric.

When I was plugged in to shore power, I used the electric portion (same as I did in the Beaver I had with Aqua Hot) unless it was so very cold that the electric couldn't quite keep up. That was a rare occurrence for us, as that would have been under 30º F in most cases, and I found even then that I could turn on the diesel function for a short time, until the water system got hot (usually not more than ten minutes or so), then rely on the electric to keep it there most of the day, with the diesel function turned off.

When I was boondocking (such as at Quartzsite), I did have to run it on diesel during the night on those rare occasions when it got cold enough, but I usually tried to park such that the fumes wouldn't bother anyone -- note that, unlike at least one comment above, my Oasis exhaust was on the passenger's side, as was the Aqua Hot exhaust on my Beaver. The generator exhaust on both was on the driver's side.

So in the 11 years that I was driving DPs with hydronic systems, I probably didn't use the diesel function more than a handful of times other than at Q, and not much more then. In point of fact, we got plenty of hot water from the electric function, even at Q, during the time we ran the generator morning and evening for cooking, recharging batteries, etc. And we did use a Gen-Turi for the generator.

I would also note that the (much) more common propane systems aren't as bad as the hydronic in terms of exhaust, but are LOTS noisier inside, with much less even heat, and somewhat noisier outside, as well.

It occurs to me that I probably should mention that although the Ventana was all electric, the Beaver had propane and we never used the propane oven (the microwave/convection combo was great), though we had to use the burners. Still, after a while we also had a portable induction "burner" in the Beaver.

Hope this helps, Lee.
Helps a lot, especially the "run it on diesel to get it up to temp then let electric take over". Nothing I dislike more than using fuel for heat at a full hook up RV park!

Thanks for the post
 

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