Blue Rhino clearly marks the amount of propane contained in our tanks, right on the package. Blue Rhino also notes the amount of propane contained in our tanks on our display signs.
An issue with getting a tank re-certified is the re-certification label is sometimes made out of thin foil that the certifier uses a pen to write/engrave the re-certification date on, not stamped into the tank itself. The price is reasonable enough ($20 at our local supplier) but the foil label rarely remains legible for more than a few months and can lead to questions about whether the tanks are current when re-filling the tank.With reference to DOT cylinders for Propane, this DOT flyer is pretty clear on what is expected to be done and how. Requalification Guidance for Propane Cylinders (this is a one page PDF that downloads from the US DOT Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.)
Hard mounted tanks on RV's and at your home, etc, are ASME tanks and do not fall under DOT regulations for inspections.
I agree 100% with this. One would do well to have a re-certifiedAn issue with getting a tank re-certified is the re-certification label is sometimes made out of thin foil that the certifier uses a pen to write/engrave the re-certification date on, not stamped into the tank itself. The price is reasonable enough ($20 at our local supplier) but the foil label rarely remains legible for more than a few months and can lead to questions about whether the tanks are current when re-filling the tank.
Please post a link to that information-with dates; about reverting to 10 years. I've argued with some guys but cannot prove what I say.Blue Rhino uses delivery trucks that are designed like the older soft drink trucks with the slightly sloped sides with the roll up slatted doors with shelves inside that hold the cylinders (they are not tanks). The story goes that to limit the weight of the truck, they started filling the tanks to 15 lbs each. In any case, you are not getting a full tank from them. I have 30 lb tanks so I have to refill. If I had 20 lb tanks I'd buy the Flame King YSN230b 20 Pound Steel Propane Tank Cylinder with OPD Valve and Built-in Gauge, 20 lb Vertical. Costco usually has stacks of them even cheaper than Amazon. The gauge is magnetic, operated by the OPD float and while not perfect, its pretty darn good. As it is, with the 30 lb cylinders and the difficulty in removing them, I use the Mopeka Tank Check system to track the level.
I have been using Tractor Supply as they have a good price and usually will come right out and fill my cylinders. When cylinders are refilled they are supposed to be placed on a scale to verify the amount but most people do not pay attention to the scale, they fill until liquid comes out the vent screw, which is about the time the OPD shuts it off anyhow.
The time interval for DOT cylinder inspection is now 10 years. Its a somewhat convoluted story. DOT took it upon itself to issue a rule change, known as a NPRM (Notice of Proposed Rulemaking) to move the time interval for inspections from 12 years to 10. There were few comments and the NPRM was approved as written and became Federal Code. Apparently the watchdog organizations that should have caught this did not and the industry cried foul and so the DOT issued "do not enforce" letters to their field inspectors and filed a new NPRM to move the time interval back to 12 years. Again, few comments were received, mostly advocating the 10 year interval, so the NPRM failed and the 10 year interval stayed in place. The "do not enforce" letter became void after this. This was about 2017 or 2018. There is a lot of stuff on the internet that still says 12 years but it is incorrect.
You are quoting....Please post a link to that information-with dates; about reverting to 10 years. I've argued with some guys but cannot prove what I say.
The link you posted is undated.
This is a quote from the Federal Register link embedded in your previous link.
Quote: " (ii) For a cylinder having a water capacity over 5.44 kg (12 pounds), by the water-jacket, direct expansion or proof pressure test methods as prescribed in CGA C–1. For the water-jacket or direct expansion test, the re-qualification must be performed by the end of 12 years after the original test date and at 12-year intervals thereafter. For the proof-pressure test, a re-qualification must be performed by the end of 12 years after the original test date and at seven (7) year intervals."
Just make sure the tank you receive is not close to the expiration date so you can continue to get it refilled. Most of those exchange tanks are only filled with 15 lbs. of propane so you are getting short changed when you buy them.If I get an out of date tank, I then use one of the companies that swap tanks, let them get it re-certified.
Thanks Charles, I posted that because the Federal Register legal language put me in a tail-spin.You are quoting....
(j) Cylinder used as a fire extinguisher...... snip....
(1) A DOT 4B, 4BA, 4B240ET or 4BW cylinder used as a fire extinguisher may be tested as follows:(ii) For a cylinder having a water capacity over 5.44 kg (12 pounds), by the water-jacket, direct expansion or proof pressure test methods as prescribed in CGA C–1... snip.....So, that doesn't apply. I did notice that the flyer I linked to did not have a date, which I thought odd. I see what I need to quote, but I'll get it together tomorrow.
For the sake of discussion, I suspect that testing a cylinder by the volumetric expansion or proof pressure methods is probably as expensive or more so than a new 20 or 30 lb cylinder costs. As I said, I will work on that tomorrow.
Tonight is the peak of the Lenoids meteor shower and our weather is clear with a slight haze so I plan to spend an hour or so outside in a lounge chair watching, as the temps are comfortable (59°F).
I scoped out the Loves I mentioned in Cumberland, Maryland, using satellite images, and the propane tank is right near the entrance to the auto section. It's on the left, where the propane tank on my moho is, but if I pull up to where it can be filled, I'd be blocking a lot of the right side of the entrance, where the cars exiting need to be."worth it" being a subjective matter of course. I'm more than willing to pay a premium to avoid having to go through the dis/re connect process to top off propane.
They built a new TS across the road from the old one near our home. This new TS is about the only one we've found that has a convenient propane tank that you can pull right up to-- without having to disconnect. Most all of the TS sites we encounter when traveling aren't nearly as convenient.
It's been a few years now, but I used to drive my 45' Beaver right to the tanks/pump at a feed store not too far from me. So you might check some other sources, perhaps something set for a farming community, though where I went was in the heart of a Denver suburb.It's hard shopping for propane with an onboard tank.
It's Willow Run Feed & Supply just west of Sheridan on 120th (south side), straight across from Home Depot. It's been several years since I was there (my Ventana was all electric) but Google Earth still shows it. Oh, and it's actually in Broomfield.In the Westminster area? Where is it? I usually wedge my way into the Tractor Supply in Brighton.