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We have been fulltiming for a few years but medical problems and age caught up with us so we bought a house in Colorado and I am almost finished renovating it. We should be moving out of the RV and into the house before winter sets in. We currently own a Luxe 5th wheel. Not one of the best known brands so if you don't know what a Luxe is here is a link. True Four-Season Luxury Fifth Wheel | Fifth Wheel Toy Hauler

The Luxe is 44ft long, 13ft tall, and has a gvwr of 21k lbs. We set it up to spend most of our time boondocking. It has ~2000 watts of solar, 800ah lithium batteries, composting toilet, soft starts on both AC units, and tons of upgrades.

Once we get the house settled, we will be selling the Luxe. My wife wants to be able to travel back to the East coast as much as possible to visit friends and family so I'm considering buying another RV to help us do that. We have 2 cats and want to travel with them and we want to do shorter trips in it probably up to a week at a time. I know that it would probably be cheaper to jump in the car and stay in hotels but the cats and some other issues make an RV more attractive.

It is going to take me a long time before I pull the trigger on a new RV. It's probably gonna take a very long time to sell the Luxe. We could easily spend a year or two of seeing the sites locally. We have to get some medical stuff taken care of before we could head out in an RV again. I have to make sure this makes financial sense to a certain degree. We can get a lot of hotel rooms for the price of an rv. The planets have to align and I have a lot of work to do before I decide if this is really the way to go. This thread is to help me get started figuring out what kind of rv might be the best fit and also to get ideas to add to my pre-inspection checklist. I need a lot of time to make sure my wife understands what we would be getting into lol. She is gonna have a hard time downsizing from the Luxe to a smaller RV.

My parents owned many RVs and most of our family vacations were in RVs. We have owned several RVs but all have been towables so if I'm going to look at small class As or class Cs I'll need to get up to speed on the differences between motorhomes and towable and learn what to look for on them in an inspection. I will be finding an NRVIA inspector to go over any rv before we buy it but I want to vet them first with my own inspection.

Our requirements aren't many:
- as small as possible but that has a place to eat and a sofa. some of the smaller class Cs I've looked at don't have the sofa but I would consider a dinette only if I could swap the dinette with a sofa and add a removable table in front of it
- a bedroom with a walk around bed as part of the floorpan. We don't want to swap a dinette or sleep in a class C loft
- I'm willing to do some remodeling and repairs but don't want a complete renovation

We aren't gonna try to boondock in it except to park overnight here and there while trying to get to where we are going. I'm leaning toward a class C so we can park it most places and don't have to worry a tow vehicle. I will consider a small towable if it works out that way since I already have a tow vehicle, but I like the idea of not having to deal with hooking up a tow vehicle and it looks like some of the class Cs might let me tow a small trailer behind. I have a 12ft motorcycle trailer that might come in handy if we want to take larger items back east to friends or family or vice versa. GVWR on the trailer is 1200 lbs so I will need to factor that into the towing specs of a motorhome. Might not work lol.

If I do a class C I'm leaning toward a Ford chassis. I got a lot of friends who can help me with almost anything Ford and it seems the Ford V10 is a great option. I'm used to getting 8-9mpg towing the Luxe so the Ford V10 mpg won't be anything new. I don't plan to use a toad with this RV.

I've had some conversations with DonTom about his and he's taught me a lot so far. I've gone through a lot of the threads here to look for info but there's a lot and I have a lot more work to do.

One reason I am starting this now is cause I want as much time as possible to get lucky and find an old RV in great condition. If I can find something less than $20k that would be ideal. I know I will need to get an old one and I will need to budget for a lot of work to get it into good running condition and livable. I would have the chassis end fully serviced, replace the tires, brakes, shocks, etc and know I'll spend a good bit after I buy it. I'm hoping I can find one at that price range that runs and where the RV side is in serviceable condition.

I'm attaching my pre inspection checklist for a towable. It still needs a lot of work and I will edit it once I decide what type of RV to go with. What is different between a towable and a motorhome that I need to think about and add to the list? What type or specific RV would you recommend to do what I want to do?

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We went through the exact same decision process after self-constructing our remote mountain southern Oregon retirement place.


Frankly, it is best to avoid all the motorized class RVs and just get a long-lasting and lightweight fiberglass trailer that enables you to travel economically, far, fast and as unencumbered as possible. Once you add a motor to your RV, those virtues are forever lost and you are stuck with an ever increasing size/weight ball and chain. A Castia travel trailer and a Honda Ridgeline tow vehicle were our selection...and our travels have amply proven the wisdom of our selection. And we have three cats that travel with us all over Northern and Latin America...hence the name of our trailer.


We modified and refined our Casita travel trailer as detailed in this writeup to make it as comfortable as any RV at any price point and to optimize it for unlimited duration dry camping in remote locations.
 
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@Sunnyfalls thanks for the info. I have a lot to figure out before i decide. I like using antisway hitches on towables and i wasnt looking forward to the up and down tongue jack process you have to use with them. I could install a powered tongue jack but those never lasted very long for me. I am getting up in age so having to level without autoleveling jacks already feels like a lot of work lol.

I have to really think about how important it is to me to be able to tow my motorcycle trailer. It would be a big plus if i ever need to do that but if i do it probably would only be 1 or 2 times.

it will probably come down to which type of rv i find first that meets the bill and the budget.

If i do a towable i will go as small as possible. I know i could get a floorplan that would work for us in as little as 20ft but i would have to do major renovations to get it there. I will prob end up with something closer to 26ft as is.

If i can find a renovated canned ham where they figured out to squeeze in a bath that could work.
 
@Sunnyfalls thanks for the info. I have a lot to figure out before i decide. I like using antisway hitches on towables and i wasnt looking forward to the up and down tongue jack process you have to use with them. I could install a powered tongue jack but those never lasted very long for me. I am getting up in age so having to level without autoleveling jacks already feels like a lot of work lol.

I have to really think about how important it is to me to be able to tow my motorcycle trailer. It would be a big plus if i ever need to do that but if i do it probably would only be 1 or 2 times.

it will probably come down to which type of rv i find first that meets the bill and the budget.

If i do a towable i will go as small as possible. I know i could get a floorplan that would work for us in as little as 20ft but i would have to do major renovations to get it there. I will prob end up with something closer to 26ft as is.

If i can find a renovated canned ham where they figured out to squeeze in a bath that could work.
Yes, it is definitely worth it to take the time to fully figure things out completely and think through exactly how you will camp. For us, we wanted the smallest possible footprint and the lowest weight that would keep us very comfortable and secure. We sure didn't want to move our RV everytime we left the campsite for supplies or for sightseeing. And there was no way we would go so big that we would need to tow another vehicle to resolve that stupidity. Staying small also makes cooling and heating easy and getting 22 MPG makes traveling economical too.
 
Yes, it is definitely worth it to take the time to fully figure things out completely and think through exactly how you will camp. For us, we wanted the smallest possible footprint and the lowest weight that would keep us very comfortable and secure. We sure didn't want to move our RV everytime we left the campsite for supplies or for sightseeing. And there was no way we would go so big that we would need to tow another vehicle to resolve that stupidity. Staying small also makes cooling and heating easy and getting 22 MPG makes traveling economical too.
You get 22 mpg towing the Casita with the Ridgeline?
 
You get 22 mpg towing the Casita with the Ridgeline?
Yep, on the flats. Our Casita trailer is very aerodynamic...and having worked in aerospace most of my life, anything less wouldn't do. Our Ridgeline gets 29 MPG on the flats without the Casita trailer. Honda uses engine Variable Cylinder Management™ (VCM) technology and the Ridgeline has been our favorite truck thus far and is perfect for the Casita trailer towing mission. The Ridgeline has the capacity of a 3/4 ton truck in a 1/2 ton footprint and provides a comfortable car-like ride.
 
the casita has been listed on top quality rv lists i have seen
We did much research before selecting and ordering our Casita trailer and we had to wait nearly a year before we could pick it up. We have been extremely happy with it.

We selected the Casita Liberty Deluxe model which, like the Independence model, is specifically designed for couples with a king size sleeping area. A Casita trailer must be picked up in Rice Texas (i.e., Casita only does factory direct sales and has no dealerships that would take more of your money) and they have a long lead order time before pickup as demand for them is extremely high as they are reasonably priced, last forever and can be easily resold for significantly more than their purchase price. In addition to Munich Germany, Austin Texas was also Gayle’s home town. So an opportunity to visit Texas was not viewed as an inconvenience to us. Upon returning to our remote southern Oregon homestead, Gayle named our Casita trailer “Los Gatos Casita” as a tribute to our wonderful cats who traveled with us.

Casita Travel Trailers, which are a direct descendant from the innovative and original 1968 Canadian Boler Fiberglass Travel Trailer, are constructed of marine grade fiberglass (a single layer shell design that doesn’t trap moisture in a cavity which then shortens the lifetime of most other RVs including other fiberglass RVs), have a strong steel frame (instead of an aluminum frame having a cyclic fatigue failure limited life and subject to galvanic and salted road corrosion failure), are aerodynamic (an Airstream trailer shape but much easier to economically repair if ever needed), are very lightweight (only 2,480 pound Curb/Empty weight with a 365 pound tongue weight that reduces to 274 pounds when our weight distribution hitch is used) and are very small (only 17 feet long) making them a dream to tow and do real camping in beautiful locations that many larger RVs can NOT dream doing. And Casita trailers have all the functionality that one needs for very comfortable camping: Air Conditioning; Bathroom with sink, shower and toilet; Ceiling Fan, Furnace (optional and recommended); Tank Hot Water Heater (6 gallons); Kitchen with large microwave oven (optional and NOT recommended), refrigerator (3 cubic feet), sink and stove; 30A 120VAC Shore Power (which we upgraded to 50A 120/240VAC) and Shore Potable Water Hookup; Sleeping Area (King, Full or Double Single Berth sleeping configurations as desired) and Holding Tanks for Potable (25 gallons), Gray (32 gallons) and Black (15 gallons) water. So Casita Travel Trailer has created the perfect travel trailer for loving couples who enjoy closeness and they have been doing so since 1981 and nearly all of these original Casita trailers are still on the road today.
 
@Sunnyfalls What is the ccc of your casita? The only model that might work for us is the 17' deluxe with the 2 chairs instead of the dinette. That might be too small for my wife and i would have to figure out wher to put a cat box that we wouldnt have to move to get to things. I have to worry about tripping hazards for my wife.

I wonder if there is another brand similar to casita that is a little bigger say a 20 footer
 
@Sunnyfalls What is the ccc of your casita? The only model that might work for us is the 17' deluxe with the 2 chairs instead of the dinette. That might be too small for my wife and i would have to figure out wher to put a cat box that we wouldnt have to move to get to things. I have to worry about tripping hazards for my wife.

I wonder if there is another brand similar to casita that is a little bigger say a 20 footer

We have the Liberty model which enables having bed(s) that you can go to bathroom in middle of night without crawling over your partner. The Casita Deluxe models have 1,000 pound CCC and the Standard models (no bathrooms) have 1,500 pound CCC. An axle upgrade some folks do increase those numbers by another 1,500 pounds. We have only needed 600 pounds.

We are only inside our Casita when streaming programming before bed, for sleeping and for cooking/dining in bad weather. Otherwise, we use our Clam screened-in tent as our primary living space. We go camping to experience the outdoors and have zero interest staying inside a RV no matter how big it could be.

We built a cabinet that is located between our bunks that is used for both storage and a huge cat litter box. This cat bathroom is exhaust vented to outside and turns on a blue LED light for 10 minutes when one of our three cats uses it.

You might want to checkout the Big Foot, Escape and Oliver fiberglass trailers. They are bigger and have better Winter camping capability than the Casita...but they are much heavier and cost much more. For us, the Casita provided the best bang for the buck.

We were backpackers and blue water sailers in our younger days...
 

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Thanks. Did casita do those mods and how much weight can you carry in it?
I edited previous response to include CCC info you requested and some other fiberglass trailers to consider. I did 100% of all our many mods that are fully documented here:


We just replaced our bathroom molded-in fiberglass sink with a SS sink and a higher quality faucet yesterday...and we also replaced the P-trap with a Hepvo valve...
 

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I will have the house done enough that we will be moving out of the rv next week. Gonna be a while but hopefully my rv days arent completely over. Gonna miss it.

Gonna do some more traditional travelling for a while. Got a rental place in Vail for Christmas
 
Cheers and enjoy! Vail should be great place for Christmas too! We lived in CO for a period and got to enjoy much mountain climbing, wilderness camping and snow skiing. Never acquired a taste for rocky mountain oysters though...
 
The Ridgeline has the capacity of a 3/4 ton truck in a 1/2 ton footprint and provides a comfortable car-like ride.
that's an overstatement if i ever saw one, manufacturer specs are 5000lb towing and 1600lb payload.
my 3/4 ton chevy is spec'd at 16000lbs towing and 3450lbs payload. or were you referring to the interior and bed volume capacity ? in which case you are still way under what a typical 3/4 ton truck will carry
 

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