Smartphone Phobia and Nomophobia in RV Life

[DonTom]

" is a fear of something

A fear of how stupid Smartphones are changing the world.

But the stupid Smartphones already won the war and they won big time. That doesn't mean I have to like it, but neither is "hatred" the correct word.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Professor David]

A fear of how stupid Smartphones are changing the world.

But the stupid Smartphones already won the war and they won big time. That doesn't mean I have to like it, but neither is "hatred" the correct word.

-Don- Auburn, CA

But u do hate GFI outlets.

 

[DonTom]

But u do hate GFI outlets.

Yes, there "hate" is a better word. IMAO, all they do is cause problems for me.

I have yet to have one protect me from a shock or do anything useful.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[NY_Dutch]

Yes, there "hate" is a better word. IMAO, all they do is cause problems for me.

I have yet to have one protect me from a shock or do anything useful.

-Don- Auburn, CA

A GFI only has to work once to make you a believer.

 

[Gary RV_Wizard]

I have yet to have one protect me from a shock or do anything useful.

Are you complaining because you didn't get a shock? If a GFCI tripped, it already did that "anything useful". It prevented you (or somebody) from getting a shock or worse. You would only be aware of a shock if the GFCI didn't work. Perhaps only briefly aware.

The GFCI trip is telling you that something went wrong in a manner that caused an unsafe condition. Perhaps only momentarily wrong, but a potentially serious problem nonetheless. Ignore the warning at your own peril.

 

[DonTom]

If a GFCI tripped, it already did that "anything useful".

How is it "useful" when there is nobody near it hen it trips and makes more than a hundred bucks worth of food go rotten?

How was it useful the time nobody was home and a GFI tripped and turned off one of my security cameras (powered from kitchen outlet)?

Are you complaining because you didn't get a shock?

That has never happened in my lifetime where a GFI has prevented me from getting a shock--or doing anything useful for me. How about for you?

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[bigbAZ]

How was it useful the time nobody was home and a GFI tripped and turned off one of my security cameras (powered from kitchen outlet)?


-Don- Reno, NV

Ah ha! That is technically a code violation right there!

Note that the NEC definition of an outlet is not what most people think it is:

 

[DonTom]

Ah ha! That is technically a code violation right there!

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Note that the NEC definition of an outlet is not what most people think it is:

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What is the reason for such a stupid (IMAO), unnecessary law?

Why doesn't the NEC make a few decent and necessary laws, such as a requirement for all small stuff to show the voltage INPUT to know what power supply to match it up with? Having only the power supply marked for its output voltage is rather unnecessary, I can test for that with a voltmeter. IOW, they often do it the opposite of the way that makes sense.

I think we probably all ran into that problem a few times if the power supply gets separated from the unit and have many items that run from small plug in AC power supplies.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

What is the reason for such a stupid (IMAO), unnecessary law?

Why doesn't the NEC make a few decent and necessary laws, such as a requirement for all small stuff to show the voltage INPUT to know what power supply to match it up with? Having only the power supply marked for its output voltage is rather unnecessary, I can test for that with a voltmeter. IOW, they often do it the opposite of the way that makes sense.

I think we probably all ran into that problem a few times if the power supply gets separated from the unit and have many items that run from small plug in AC power supplies.

-Don- Reno, NV

The NEC doesn't make any laws, and has no control over what manufacturers put on small appliance labels., especially low voltage devices that typically use "wall warts".

 

[DonTom]

The NEC doesn't make any laws, and has no control over what manufacturers put on small appliance labels., especially low voltage devices that typically use "wall warts".

Yeah, I meant code as NEC stands for "National Electrical Code".

But I wish somebody would do something about the small stuff problem which I have ran into several times trying to match up the correct plug-in supply for various items.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

Yeah, I meant code as NEC stands for "National Electrical Code".

But I wish somebody would do something about the small stuff problem which I have ran into several times trying to match up the correct plug-in supply for various items.

-Don- Reno, NV

The NFPA Article 70, the NEC, is not law until a state or municipality adopts it and creates a law that includes it.

Not even the UL has any control over what labeling is put on low voltage devices. We do know that all USB devices operate on 5 volts though.

 

[DonTom]

We do know that all USB devices operate on 5 volts though.

Perhaps not with the new USB PD 3.1. on a "C" USB :

"Extended Power Range (EPR), introduced in USB PD 3.1, adds higher voltage tiers to support up to 240W. These additional fixed voltages are 28V, 36V, and 48V, allowing high-performance devices like gaming laptops to draw sufficient power without excessive current flow."

But I never had a complain with the USB stuff, just with old electronic gadgets and some tools that only mark the voltage of the power supply and not the receiving item, so often there is no way to know which goes to which.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

Not even the UL has any control over what labeling is put on low voltage devices.

Which is the problem I am referring to. Nobody cares except the owners of such stuff.

Perhaps that will change after somebody dies in a house fire when they discovered they plugged in the wrong supply to some small little unit.

And how come there are no fuses in a lot of this small stuff?

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

Which is the problem I am referring to. Nobody cares except the owners of such stuff.

Perhaps that will change after somebody dies in a house fire when they discovered they plugged in the wrong supply to some small little unit.

And how come there are no fuses in a lot of this small stuff?

-Don- Reno, NV

Generally, the small gauge wiring is it's own fuse. You're more likely to have a fire from a device's battery than connecting the wrong power supply.

 

[NY_Dutch]

Perhaps not with the new USB PD 3.1. on a "C" USB :

"Extended Power Range (EPR), introduced in USB PD 3.1, adds higher voltage tiers to support up to 240W. These additional fixed voltages are 28V, 36V, and 48V, allowing high-performance devices like gaming laptops to draw sufficient power without excessive current flow."

But I never had a complain with the USB stuff, just with old electronic gadgets and some tools that only mark the voltage of the power supply and not the receiving item, so often there is no way to know which goes to which.

-Don- Reno, NV

3.1 just adds the three new voltages to the existing 5V, 9V, 15V, and 20V USB profile. It's completely backwards compatible with all previous USB devices.

 

[DonTom]

We do know that all USB devices operate on 5 volts though.

It depends on what you mean. How am I going to charge my 12VDC HFT power station from a 5VDC only USB?

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

It depends on what you mean. How am I going to charge my 12VDC HFT power station from a 5VDC only USB?

-Don- Reno, NV

I mis-stated that. I should have said as low as 5 volts. The device and the wall wart negotiate the voltage using the USB PD (Power Delivery) digital protocol. You're not going to get any more power out of the supply than it's capable of delivering of course.

 

[DonTom]

After fiddling with the settings I finally got it to open and could read the menu. I ended up passing my phone around to other tables so they see a menu.

This area had really poor cell service and most people could not get it to work.

Reading old messages.

I 4-got 2 mention that is common where they have wireless. Don't use your cell service, use their wireless system in the restaurant.


-Don- Reno, NV

 

[LarsMac]

I never use a kitchen knife for opening boxes.

box knife

 

[DonTom]

My SmartPhonePhobia just got a lot worse!

I went to pay my quarterly IRS payment at IRS.gov/epay, just as I did last time. I thought.

But now it REQURES a stupid Smartphone to GIVE the IRS money! And endless BS to do such as uploading my driver's license to the cell and MUCH more.

I refuse to do it, it is an endless hassle compared to me getting a stamp and envelope.

I will send it by US snailmail from now on, the old fashioned way.

-Don- Reno, NV