Smartphone phobia

[rvlifer]

An e-sim is digital not physical i believe.

Cell tech was never my area of expertise but i thought an esim was a permanently installed programmable sim card. Aka a physical storage device than can be changed electronically. There are plusses and minuses and one negative is that they arent as easy to move from one phone to another compared to a traditional sim.

Not sure of the reasons for having multiple sim cards in a cell phone but esims should allow for multiple sims on one card. Dont know anyone that does that yet but in theory it should be possible.

Like all tech how good esims are will probably depend on how the companies implement it.

 

[Jackiemac]

Cell tech was never my area of expertise but i thought an esim was a permanently installed programmable sim card. Aka a physical storage device than can be changed electronically. There are plusses and minuses and one negative is that they arent as easy to move from one phone to another compared to a traditional sim.

Not sure of the reasons for having multiple sim cards in a cell phone but esims should allow for multiple sims on one card. Dont know anyone that does that yet but in theory it should be possible

Like all tech how good esims are will probably depend on how the companies implement it.

I thought it was a number or QR code.
Google:

An eSIM in the UK is considered a digital SIM meaning it is not a physical card, but rather a digital profile embedded within a compatible device that allows you to activate a mobile plan without needing to insert a traditional SIM card; essentially, it's entirely software-based and accessed through your phone's settings.

 

[gwinger]

The computer used for the first radio telescope of its kind at Ohio State Univ. had 18k bits of memory.

And the computers used the the Apollo missions had less power than the first smartphones.

 

[rvlifer]

I thought it was a number or QR code.
Google:

An eSIM in the UK is considered a digital SIM meaning it is not a physical card, but rather a digital profile embedded within a compatible device that allows you to activate a mobile plan without needing to insert a traditional SIM card; essentially, it's entirely software-based and accessed through your phone's settings.

for all intents and purposes we are probably saying the same thing. I would be surprised if manufacturers would store sim data with the rest of the data on the regular internal storage. Typically it would be in a dedicated chip but would be edited via software, similar to the bios in a computer. I would expect the sim storage to be more hardened from damage and changes than other data on the phone.

From a user perspective they would never need to know how it was implemented so it isnt an overly important distinxtion but it wouldnt surprise me if the sales info listed it as a physical thing

 

[PancakeBill]

I have the Kindle app on my iphone, so if sitting waiting, my nose is in it, reading my latest book, might be checking texts, or possibly FB orhere. no worse than a magazine, book or laptop.

 

[Onyrlef]

And the computers used the the Apollo missions had less power than the first smartphones.

Which makes you wonder why the new NASA Moon Mission keeps getting delayed. Not that I think sending a human to the moon is going to accomplish anything automation isn't capable of.

 

[Larry N.]

An e-sim is digital not physical i believe.

An eSIM in the UK is considered a digital SIM meaning it is not a physical card

An eSIM is basically a SIM that is permanently installed from the factory, part of the design for the unit. It could be a SIM card soldered in rather than removable, but it also could be incorporated inside another chip in the unit. The function is essentially the same, but you may not be able (if you open up the phone) to physically find it as a separate unit.

But it still has a physical component somewhere in there.

And yes, it makes for having two usable sims as you are doing, Jackie. Info about doing that is in the manual for my Edge+.

 

[Chef Duane]

Which makes you wonder why the new NASA Moon Mission keeps getting delayed. Not that I think sending a human to the moon is going to accomplish anything automation isn't capable of.

I agree. Putting a man or woman on the moon is probably more of a cultural statement than the actual need for a human on the moon. A probe can probably do anything technical than a human can do. But putting woman on the moon (probably Christina Koch) would be pretty cool.

 

[Jackiemac]

An eSIM is basically a SIM that is permanently installed from the factory, part of the design for the unit. It could be a SIM card soldered in rather than removable, but it also could be incorporated inside another chip in the unit. The function is essentially the same, but you may not be able (if you open up the phone) to physically find it as a separate unit.

But it still has a physical component somewhere in there.

And yes, it makes for having two usable sims as you are doing, Jackie. Info about doing that is in the manual for my Edge+.

I have 2 physical sim cards Larry but i don'tthink i need to have any if mobile provider can give me an esim which is probably what you are telling me...

 

[Tulecreeper]

Ouch. We ditched the landline years ago, and went with VZW Home Connect, a cellular box with its own account that allows us to plug in the DECT (cordless) phone base station. We've used this setup at our different home bases and in the RV (just unplug the HC box and take it with us). VZW charged $10/month, but are now up to $18/month. Gradually, we're moving our contact info in various places to be one of cell phones instead of the VZW number.

We've had Verizon Home Phone Connect for years that we use as our home phone number. Always give that number out because I don't give anyone my cell # unless absolutely necessary. There have been several times some entity - butcher, baker, candlestick maker - has asked for a "phone number", and I give out the home phone. Then time will go by and I have and appointment with one of them. I show up and they say, "We weren't sure you were coming. You didn't reply to our text to verify." I respond, "I don't know how you could text me, I never gave you my cell #." I get confused looks.

 

[Onyrlef]

We've had Verizon Home Phone Connect for years that we use as our home phone number. Always give that number out because I don't give anyone my cell # unless absolutely necessary. There have been several times some entity - butcher, baker, candlestick maker - has asked for a "phone number", and I give out the home phone. Then time will go by and I have and appointment with one of them. I show up and they say, "We weren't sure you were coming. You didn't reply to our text to verify." I respond, "I don't know how you could text me, I never gave you my cell #." I get confused looks.

I don't mind giving anyone my cell #. They can't ring me unless they're in my contacts list. They can lv. a msg. and they can text. They can sell the # or whatever and they still can't ring through unless they're in contacts, so not a problem. Messages and texts are no problem either, soon as I see "Hi, my name is ..." or "This is to notify you we're holding a pkg. for you with the wrong address..." or some other such bs, I touch delete.

 

[rvlifer]

I don't mind giving anyone my cell #. They can't ring me unless they're in my contacts list. They can lv. a msg. and they can text. They can sell the # or whatever and they still can't ring through unless they're in contacts, so not a problem. Messages and texts are no problem either, soon as I see "Hi, my name is ..." or "This is to notify you we're holding a pkg. for you with the wrong address..." or some other such bs, I touch delete.

That is great until someone in your contact list gets a new phone number and then cant contact you to know what it is

 

[Onyrlef]

That is great until someone in your contact list gets a new phone number and then cant contact you to know what it is

I don't know, that's a hard one.... what if they left a msg..or text saying something like " Hey, this is ....my new number is xxx-xxx-xxxx"?

 

[rvlifer]

I don't know, that's a hard one.... what if they left a msg. saying something like " Hey, this is ....my new number is xxx-xxx-xxxx"?

So your belief is that all blocking features and versions of the os work that way.

 

[Onyrlef]

So your belief is that all blocking features and versions of the os work that way.

Nope, I believe mine does. That would be what usage of the possessive adjective "my" and the possessive pronoun "mine" would indicate.

 

[Tom]

You didn't reply to our text to verify." I respond, "I don't know how you could text me, I never gave you my cell #." I get confused looks.

Been there, done that, numerous times.

 

[Larry N.]

I show up and they say, "We weren't sure you were coming. You didn't reply to our text to verify." I respond, "I don't know how you could text me, I never gave you my cell #." I get confused looks.

I certainly understand that- I don't give out my cell number either, but some places/people can't understand that not EVERYBODY has a cell phone and that of those who do not EVERYBODY is willing to share it (keeps spam off of the cell phone). I've had repeated notes (about once a month) from Comcast (for example):

​ ​

Your account Confirm your mobile number is correct​ We recently sent you a text message but unfortunately it was not delivered. Please take a moment to check your account to make sure your mobile number is correct. It's important to keep your mobile number up to date to ensure you receive important text messages about your Xfinity service in the future, including billing and appointment reminders, and outage alerts.​ Confirm mobile number ​ Thank you for being an Xfinity customer.​

 

[rvlifer]

Nope, I believe mine does. That would be what usage of the possessive adjective "my" and the possessive pronoun "mine" would indicate.

Oh. I didnt realize you were talking to yourself

 

[Chef Duane]

Oh. I didnt realize you were talking to yourself