Steaks, salt and stuff

Tulecreeper

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IMO, it would be better if you kept the name "solar" in there, as it shows your expertise here and is easy to remember. However, there is a cooking section here and if you're an expert on cooking steaks that could be helpful there.

Perhaps you should give @Tulecreeper a lesson that that, because by the time I am done with him, he will owe me a dozen steaks. :)

-Don- Auburn, CA
I am an expert on cooking steaks - BBQd, pan fried, broiled. Shoot, now I'm hungry.
 
I am an expert on cooking steaks - BBQd, pan fried, broiled. Shoot, now I'm hungry.
Do you or anyone else use Kosher salt when cooking steaks? I cover my steaks with kosher salt and let them sit for about 15 minutes. Then I rinse them off with water, pat them dry with a paper towel , add my spices then put them on a grill with the temperature of 500 degrees. Cook for 1 minute then flip them and cook another 1 minute. Do this 4 times on each side. Then put them on a plate and cover with tinfoil for 15 minutes to let them finish cooking. The salt helps them to get tenderized
 
Do you or anyone else use Kosher salt when cooking steaks? I cover my steaks with kosher salt and let them sit for about 15 minutes. Then I rinse them off with water, pat them dry with a paper towel , add my spices then put them on a grill with the temperature of 500 degrees. Cook for 1 minute then flip them and cook another 1 minute. Do this 4 times on each side. Then put them on a plate and cover with tinfoil for 15 minutes to let them finish cooking. The salt helps them to get tenderized
The Kosher part isn't necessary. But I have used Sea Salt with the same results.

Which reminds me - why is called 'Sea' salt? All salt is a deposit from an ancient ocean, whether it is on a salt flat or in a mine 2000 feet underground. Ergo, all salt is sea salt.

And another question. Why is there an expiration date on a container of salt? It sat underground for 2.5 billion years with no problem, then all of a sudden because it's been mined and put in a box it's going to go bad sometime between now and the end of humanity as we know it? I think not. :LOL:
 
Kosher salt has a different structure and therefore a different taste. It's been blessed by a Rabbi too. Many gentiles don't realize it's against the law to cure a ham with kosher salt.
 
I always thought kosher meant no iodine. My only steak prep is to coat with butter (which I guess comes with some salt). 600F or higher, 3 minutes a side.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 
I always thought kosher meant no iodine. My only steak prep is to coat with butter (which I guess comes with some salt). 600F or higher, 3 minutes a side.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
Do the steaks end up medium?
600F. I’m lucky if I can get it up to 500F.
 
If my grill got to 800 I would run that. 6 minutes and a ~1" thick steak is medium. DW likes well done so that one goes on 4 minutes sooner for a total of 10 minutes and 2 flips. I've found it's highly appliance specific so I have notes on my phone for house grill, RV grill and griddle. No matter what I live by the meat thermometer probe.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 
Nothing on a steak for me but salt and pepper. Kosher salt and a good bit of pepper. I think anything else covers up the flavor of a good steak. I get my prime beef from Costco now. You can't end with a good steak if you don't start with quality meat. It's hard to find prime at home.
 
You can't end with a good steak if you don't start with quality meat. It's hard to find prime at home.
We can get prime ar our local Sam’s or drive an hour to Costco. I’ve gotten to where I would rather have a hamburger. Last night we had ham, mac & cheese, squash and green beans. I really enjoyed that. Back to steak, heavy on the salt and pepper, super hot grill and med rare.
 
The Kosher part isn't necessary. But I have used Sea Salt with the same results.

Which reminds me - why is called 'Sea' salt? All salt is a deposit from an ancient ocean, whether it is on a salt flat or in a mine 2000 feet underground. Ergo, all salt is sea salt.

And another question. Why is there an expiration date on a container of salt? It sat underground for 2.5 billion years with no problem, then all of a sudden because it's been mined and put in a box it's going to go bad sometime between now and the end of humanity as we know it? I think not. :LOL:
The difference between Kosher salt and regular table salt (other than the size of the grain) is the iodine content. Table salt is iodized as a dietary supplement. Kosher salt is not. If you know the characteristics of the tastes, iodized salt can have a bit of a metallic taste. Professional Chefs use Kosher salt because they want seasoning of pure salt without any additives. But most non-professional cooks probably won't taste a difference.

'Sea Salt' is made from evaporating sea water to leave just the salt. Most salt in America is what's called 'mined' salt - salt that comes from underground mines. Even though mined salt may have been deposited from ancient evaporated seas it's still considered 'mined' salt and not sea salt. Sea salt is more expensive to produce as its more labor intensive and most Chefs use it as a finishing salt and not as an ingredient salt. And sea salt can impart differing flavors (some very distinctive) based upon the sea from whence it came, and professional Chefs want just the salt.

Lastly, be careful when using sea salt as it is a bit saltier by volume that is regular Kosher salt or table salt. One teaspoon of table salt typically does not contain the same amount of NaCL (sodium chloride) by volume as does sea salt. You can't substitute 1:1 in a recipe as the sea salt is 'saltier'. Table & Kosher salt by volume is about 12% NaCL while sea salt can be as high as double that.

Lastly, salt has an expiration date due to it's anti-caking characteristics (and because the government mandates it). Anti-caking agents can break down over time and can lose it's anti-caking powers. Folks then try to use salt that is caked up really bad and thinks its gone bad. Salt never goes bad due to its lack of innate moisture, hence the anti-caking chems.

And never salt your steak too far in advance. Salt can break down cell walls and make a raw steak weep it's juices. You may end up with a tougher steak.
 
Kosher salt has a different structure and therefore a different taste. It's been blessed by a Rabbi too. Many gentiles don't realize it's against the law to cure a ham with kosher salt.
The structure isn't different as sodium chloride (NaCl) is sodium chloride. The no iodine requirement is what makes it Kosher.
 
The structure isn't different as sodium chloride (NaCl) is sodium chloride. The no iodine requirement is what makes it Kosher.
Well that's certainly inaccurate, kosher salt grains have a larger crystalline structure which enhances the flavor. Nor is the lack of iodine what makes it kosher, there are plenty of salt brands which have no iodine and which aren't kosher. Kosher salt just can't have iodine as an ingredient. Remember in Jr. High School math, sets and subsets? All salt that is kosher has no iodine, but all salts without iodine are not kosher.
 
Well that's certainly inaccurate, kosher salt grains have a larger crystalline structure which enhances the flavor. Nor is the lack of iodine what makes it kosher, there are plenty of salt brands which have no iodine and which aren't kosher. Kosher salt just can't have iodine as an ingredient. Remember in Jr. High School math, sets and subsets? All salt that is kosher has no iodine, but all salts without iodine are not kosher.
NaCL is NaCL. Chyrstalline structure doesn't enhance flavor but it affects how it hits the palate and for the lay person, that can seem like differing flavor.

Kosher salt has no iodine and specific production is approved by the Rabbi so it is Kosher. The no iodine REQUIREMENT by the Rabbi is what makes it Kosher. Yes, plenty of salt brands have no iodine but are not Kosher. Feel better?
 
Now that the chemistry lesson is complete, I was given a blackstone griddle. I'm trying to figure out what problem it solves. I've been grilling for the last 20+ years and have some pretty good dinners I can turn out on one. The blackstone to me is a frying pan. All the recipes I find amount to cooking everything in grease or oil, just the opposite of what you do on a grill. I'm not putting $50 worth of steaks on one just to fry them. You can't slow cook ribs, BBQ chicken is a PITA because of the sauce. The longer I have this thing the more I wonder what problem it solves. Sure, it'll do eggs and bacon but for two, that's something I can do in a 10" skillet, indoors. I like smashburgers but that's a lot of appliance for burgers once in a while. So what "killer" recipes are there for blackstones that would make me want to bother with it?

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 
No doubt you can get a great steak in a cast iron pan on the stove top. I would think that the griddle gets a bit hotter than your stovetop so you'd get a better sear (unless you have a Wolf, SubZero or a ZLine). But I agree, I don't think doing a steak on a griddle adds much. All the steaks we did on the line were on a grill.

The other thing is that you can always turn a grill into a griddle by putting a small cast iron griddle over the grill. But you can't turn a griddle into a grill unless you can actually swap it out.
 

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