Alaskansnowbirds
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Hope this guys towing coverage is paid up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvC9Ijzx4Ow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvC9Ijzx4Ow
Roy M said:That was an expensive mistake!
Gary RV_Wizard said:Back when we had a 5W, I had the dubious distinction of winning an RVForum HPOF (Hit Palm On Forehead) award for getting stuck three times in the course of 8 weeks. First time I tried to leave a campsite that had a short steep back to the roadway. It was gravel and the truck wheels just spun as the trailer nose came up and lifted weight off the truck axle. My F250 had limited slip but not 4WD, and it simply couldn't hack the loose surface. Had to get a sympathetic park range with a FWD F350 to give a towing assist. He couldn't do it officially, but he called in a relief range to cover his duties and ten brought his personal vehicle over to help. Great guy, and I had to coerce him into accepting a $20 tip (this was back in 1998).
Just a week later while camped on grassy site in another park, it rained overnight. The ground was clay and got as slippery as ice. When we tried to leave, the truck wouldn't move. The campground owner happened by and said to "Hold on minute". He came back with his tractor and towed us 25 feet to the roadway. I didn't feel bad about that one cause he told me it was not unusual after a rain.
Six weeks later we were camped on Lake Itasca in a lakefront grassy area that was a good 50 years off the campground road. It rained for three days and the lake overflowed into the grass, making a swamp of the entire area. Water was almost ankle deep in the grass. I talked with the workkampers and they basically said "you ain't going anywhere without 4WD, and maybe not then either". When check-out time came, I wanted to give it a try and made it about 25 feet before bogging down. The workkampers were on hand to help, so one of them went to get his old International 4WD wagon. They even crawled in the muddy water to hook it up so I didn't get soaked as we left. With both him and me pulling, we made it to the road. They wouldn't take anything, even though one of them was off-duty at the time. They were just being helpful neighbors.
The HPOF award was/is informal, arranged by fellow members in recognition of ignoble performance with an RV. I got a printed certificate plus an entrenching tool, and of course a lot of good-natured ribbing at rallies the next year. 8) PS: I still have the entrenching tool, and probably have the certificate somewhere too.
Gary RV_Wizard said:Back when we had a 5W, I had the dubious distinction of winning an RVForum HPOF (Hit Palm On Forehead) award for getting stuck three times in the course of 8 weeks. First time I tried to leave a campsite that had a short steep back to the roadway. It was gravel and the truck wheels just spun as the trailer nose came up and lifted weight off the truck axle. My F250 had limited slip but not 4WD, and it simply couldn't hack the loose surface. Had to get a sympathetic park range with a FWD F350 to give a towing assist. He couldn't do it officially, but he called in a relief range to cover his duties and ten brought his personal vehicle over to help. Great guy, and I had to coerce him into accepting a $20 tip (this was back in 1998).
Just a week later while camped on grassy site in another park, it rained overnight. The ground was clay and got as slippery as ice. When we tried to leave, the truck wouldn't move. The campground owner happened by and said to "Hold on minute". He came back with his tractor and towed us 25 feet to the roadway. I didn't feel bad about that one cause he told me it was not unusual after a rain.
Six weeks later we were camped on Lake Itasca in a lakefront grassy area that was a good 50 years off the campground road. It rained for three days and the lake overflowed into the grass, making a swamp of the entire area. Water was almost ankle deep in the grass. I talked with the workkampers and they basically said "you ain't going anywhere without 4WD, and maybe not then either". When check-out time came, I wanted to give it a try and made it about 25 feet before bogging down. The workkampers were on hand to help, so one of them went to get his old International 4WD wagon. They even crawled in the muddy water to hook it up so I didn't get soaked as we left. With both him and me pulling, we made it to the road. They wouldn't take anything, even though one of them was off-duty at the time. They were just being helpful neighbors.
The HPOF award was/is informal, arranged by fellow members in recognition of ignoble performance with an RV. I got a printed certificate plus an entrenching tool, and of course a lot of good-natured ribbing at rallies the next year. 8) PS: I still have the entrenching tool, and probably have the certificate somewhere too.
The superior traction of 4WD is incontrovertible. Whether every vehicle needs 4WD is different question. That said, I would strongly consider 4WD if I were buying a vehicle used extensively for towing a heavy trailer.I have owned one truck that was not four wheel drive. Shortest time I have ever owned a vehicle. Damn thing would get stuck on wet grass! Never again!