Travelling from UK, new to RV, Denver to Yellowstone, looking for advice

Also you asked about where to stay in Yellowstone to cover the sights. Frankly, you will probably want to stay in two or three of the national park campground there. Think of Yellowstone as a gigantic figure 8. Driving the 8, except for the middle crossing is 167 miles!!! (Windsor to Sheffield?) So you would probably want to spend a night or two at Mammoth Hot Springs, Yellowstone Lake, Canyon Village, Old Faithful, and maybe a 40 miles side trip to the town of West Yellowstone to pick up some groceries, is going to take a LOT of driving between campgrounds!! And there are a lot of places to pull over and walk around on that drive--some like Old Faithful or Yellowstone Falls taking at least 2-3 hours to visit each.

Plus driving around Yellowstone is not freeway driving! Even off-season, a bison or two may cause a long traffic backup because it decides to stroll right down the middle of one of the two-lane roads. And considering that a big bison can weight 2,000 pounds, he can walk wherever he wants to walk!!! Drivers just have to wait patiently until he decides he wants to walk elsewhere. (And if you try to honk at him to get him to move faster, he might just take a swipe at your vehicle with his horns, so don't even think about it!)
|Thanks Judy, that's really helpful. I will look at other airports to fly into from the UK. We do want to do some of the other sights around Co, Mo and Wy, so understand we're not going to get to do all of Yellowstone, with trying to do some of the surrounding areas too. Good to know on the mileage, I do think 300 miles per day is max, for a car, SUV etc. so 250 makes sense for an RV. Cooler days are better too for us Brits, but nice to know we do need extra layers for the evenings, as that's more extreme than our Autumn weather here.
 
A couple of fine points on things, first off for your reference Mo is the abbreviation for Missouri, not Montana which is Mt. (could be an issue trying to make reservations, etc.) Second thing I strongly agree with Judy about trying to make reservation at multiple campgrounds inside Yellowstone due to its size, and rather low speed limits which as I recall max out at about 45 mph, even without animal stoppages. As to the route between Denver and Yellowstone regarding the numbers of miles to plan to drive per day, consider the scenery, as mentioned in my previous reply there are some significant stretches of barren nothingness along some of the routes (296 miles from Laramie to Dubois), and there is also some of the most spectacular scenery I have seen outside a national park along others (Wind river canyon south of Thermopolis).

Here is my suggested routing (or the reverse) for a Denver to Yellowstone Grand Tetons trip with 3 nights spent on the road to and from Denver (it could be done in 2, but I assume you will get a mid day start after picking up the RV, and need to get supplies on day 1 or day 2)

Day 1 get out of Denver, be aware you will have about 70 miles of on/off city scape driving north out of Denver, with a first night destination around Laramie, Wy Options are I-25 then I-80 (longer by all freeway driving), or I-25 then US 287 to Laramie which is more scenic, but still a good road. Overnight options around Laramie include Vedauwoo Campground just off I-80 east of Laramie ($20 per night Forest service campground near the pass east of Laramie, or free boondock camping just past the campground at designated pull offs on the forest service road. Nice off grid campground, close to I-80 (about a mile off the highway), the downside is only 28 first come first serve camp sites in the campground that often fill up around mid-late afternoon. Second option KOA journey park in Laramie (correction looks like it is now a former KOA now called RJourney), this is a basic commercial campground, not a resort by any means, but is in town near stores, etc. There is a Wal-Mart supercenter in Larmie that would be a good one stop shopping option to stock up on groceries and camping supplies (there is also another one in Rawlins if you don't stop in Laramie)

Day 2, this is a long drive day, Larmie to Dubois at about 300 miles, nothing much to see here, lots of open land and scrub brush, some of it more / less scenic than other bits. Rawlins is about the only potential stop along the route, and it is mostly a supply stop town. There is stuff to see and do in Dubois, and the scenery drastically improves just as you get there.

Day 3 Dubois to Grand Tetons / Yellowstone this is self explanatory, other than to say there is some nice scenery along the highway west of Dubois as you cross the pass, the pass is an easy drive through the mountains, nothing to worry about on this one, enjoy the views, and stop at some of the scenic pull outs. Dubois is a small town, last option to get limited supplies before hitting the higher in park prices, just don't expect much grocery selection.

Return loop, leave out the east entrance to Yellowstone heading toward Cody, be aware there is almost no businesses between Yellowstone and Cody 60+ miles away as much of it is national forest.

Night 1 Spend it in Cody there are things worth seeing here, perhaps see a rodeo if they are still running the almost nightly rodeos in September, plan to spend hours at the Bufalo Bill center for the west museum (some people would say days), this is also the nearest real town with supplies to Yellowstone if you decide to reverse the route. There could be an argurement that Cody is worth spending 2 nights in town, I will leave that up to you if you want to prioritize nature / scenery vs cultural stuff ie museum / rodeo

Night 2 Cody to Douglas, Wy, take the route by way of Thermopolis (note the mention above of the spectacular wind river canyon drive just south of Thermopolis). This is a circa 250 mile drive, there may be some small town points of interest along the way, one day I would like to make this drive stopping over 3-4 nights to explore some of these towns. Wy 120 from Cody to Thermopolis is a nice drive, just don't expect to see much outside of the 1 or 2 small towns along the way, no people, no houses, nothing. Douglas is a non specific destination for the night, you could opt for Casper, or push on to Glendo or Wheatland.

Night 3, this is sort of up to you, Douglas to Denver is about 230 miles with numerous options to stop for the night if you want to between Cheyene and Denver, or you can push through and easily do this in 1 day as it is all interstate driving, and mostly relatively flat lands once south of Douglas.

p.s. Denver and Salt Lake City are the 2 big airports in the region, everything else pretty much connects through these 2 with smaller commuter flights.
 
Hi Tom, oh yeah we're gonna be realistic! We're always amazed how long it takes to get half-way through France! Trying to plan 2-3 hours driving a day, with a few 2 or 3 night stops on the way. It's a holiday after all, not an endurance. I know we're not going to see it all! We have done a couple of US driving holidays before, just aware need to plan a bit more for this one as it's such a popular tourist destination.
Glad to see you doing the research and you're being realistic. I see you've had some great advice from our members.

We lived 32 years in not-so-sunny South Wales, and a friend would jokingly say "anywhere north of Newport is London". My first time crossing the Severn estuary was on the Aust/Beechley ferry, before they built the first Severn bridge. Local road signs looked like the attachment :) First time to foggy London town was before they built the M4 and before the 125MPH HST service.
 

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First thing I would ask, does it have to be Denver? Guessing because it is an International Airport and flight availability. Consider Salt Lake City, big airport and only 5-7 hour drive to West Yellowstone, easy traffic once away from the city.

I lived in and worked in Yellowstone for 10 years, plus 3 years in West Yellowstone.
 
First thing I would ask, does it have to be Denver? Guessing because it is an International Airport and flight availability. Consider Salt Lake City, big airport and only 5-7 hour drive to West Yellowstone, easy traffic once away from the city.

I lived in and worked in Yellowstone for 10 years, plus 3 years in West Yellowstone.
Hi Bill, I was hoping you'd jump in. When I was checking flights for UK relatives to visit us in Star Valley (2 hours south of the park), SLC was probably the best option. But I wasn't looking forward to the round-trip drive for the airport pickup or dropoff.
 
Well, a RT to pick up folks wouldn’t be fun, my gkids flew into SLC while we were there. We just booked a room the night before their arrival, then it was just a drive back, for drop off did the same. Sure better than a 2 day drive from Denver! Unless it is considered part of the trip.
 
A couple of fine points on things, first off for your reference Mo is the abbreviation for Missouri, not Montana which is Mt. (could be an issue trying to make reservations, etc.) Second thing I strongly agree with Judy about trying to make reservation at multiple campgrounds inside Yellowstone due to its size, and rather low speed limits which as I recall max out at about 45 mph, even without animal stoppages. As to the route between Denver and Yellowstone regarding the numbers of miles to plan to drive per day, consider the scenery, as mentioned in my previous reply there are some significant stretches of barren nothingness along some of the routes (296 miles from Laramie to Dubois), and there is also some of the most spectacular scenery I have seen outside a national park along others (Wind river canyon south of Thermopolis).

Here is my suggested routing (or the reverse) for a Denver to Yellowstone Grand Tetons trip with 3 nights spent on the road to and from Denver (it could be done in 2, but I assume you will get a mid day start after picking up the RV, and need to get supplies on day 1 or day 2)

Day 1 get out of Denver, be aware you will have about 70 miles of on/off city scape driving north out of Denver, with a first night destination around Laramie, Wy Options are I-25 then I-80 (longer by all freeway driving), or I-25 then US 287 to Laramie which is more scenic, but still a good road. Overnight options around Laramie include Vedauwoo Campground just off I-80 east of Laramie ($20 per night Forest service campground near the pass east of Laramie, or free boondock camping just past the campground at designated pull offs on the forest service road. Nice off grid campground, close to I-80 (about a mile off the highway), the downside is only 28 first come first serve camp sites in the campground that often fill up around mid-late afternoon. Second option KOA journey park in Laramie (correction looks like it is now a former KOA now called RJourney), this is a basic commercial campground, not a resort by any means, but is in town near stores, etc. There is a Wal-Mart supercenter in Larmie that would be a good one stop shopping option to stock up on groceries and camping supplies (there is also another one in Rawlins if you don't stop in Laramie)

Day 2, this is a long drive day, Larmie to Dubois at about 300 miles, nothing much to see here, lots of open land and scrub brush, some of it more / less scenic than other bits. Rawlins is about the only potential stop along the route, and it is mostly a supply stop town. There is stuff to see and do in Dubois, and the scenery drastically improves just as you get there.

Day 3 Dubois to Grand Tetons / Yellowstone this is self explanatory, other than to say there is some nice scenery along the highway west of Dubois as you cross the pass, the pass is an easy drive through the mountains, nothing to worry about on this one, enjoy the views, and stop at some of the scenic pull outs. Dubois is a small town, last option to get limited supplies before hitting the higher in park prices, just don't expect much grocery selection.

Return loop, leave out the east entrance to Yellowstone heading toward Cody, be aware there is almost no businesses between Yellowstone and Cody 60+ miles away as much of it is national forest.

Night 1 Spend it in Cody there are things worth seeing here, perhaps see a rodeo if they are still running the almost nightly rodeos in September, plan to spend hours at the Bufalo Bill center for the west museum (some people would say days), this is also the nearest real town with supplies to Yellowstone if you decide to reverse the route. There could be an argurement that Cody is worth spending 2 nights in town, I will leave that up to you if you want to prioritize nature / scenery vs cultural stuff ie museum / rodeo

Night 2 Cody to Douglas, Wy, take the route by way of Thermopolis (note the mention above of the spectacular wind river canyon drive just south of Thermopolis). This is a circa 250 mile drive, there may be some small town points of interest along the way, one day I would like to make this drive stopping over 3-4 nights to explore some of these towns. Wy 120 from Cody to Thermopolis is a nice drive, just don't expect to see much outside of the 1 or 2 small towns along the way, no people, no houses, nothing. Douglas is a non specific destination for the night, you could opt for Casper, or push on to Glendo or Wheatland.

Night 3, this is sort of up to you, Douglas to Denver is about 230 miles with numerous options to stop for the night if you want to between Cheyene and Denver, or you can push through and easily do this in 1 day as it is all interstate driving, and mostly relatively flat lands once south of Douglas.

p.s. Denver and Salt Lake City are the 2 big airports in the region, everything else pretty much connects through these 2 with smaller commuter flights.
Amazing advice, thank you so much!
 
First thing I would ask, does it have to be Denver? Guessing because it is an International Airport and flight availability. Consider Salt Lake City, big airport and only 5-7 hour drive to West Yellowstone, easy traffic once away from the city.

I lived in and worked in Yellowstone for 10 years, plus 3 years in West Yellowstone.
Thanks, it's been really beneficial getting everyone's thoughts on here, as it's made me consider an internal flight to Bozeman to cut out the potentially boring part of the journey to and from Denver. Not used to internal flights so much in the UK, but guess you guys use them like buses! Would enable us to maybe do a bit more closer to Yellowstone, but may add a day each end depending on flight times. Thank you!
 
My typical math on when or when not to take domestic flights is under 400 miles drive, over 400 miles consider flying if time limited. This is based on the assumption that any flight will cause at least a 4 hour delay, plus time to clear security, baggage claim, etc. This of course is different if making a connection flight the same day
 
Thanks so much. I think we might divert off to Red Lodge to do the Beartooth then, and forego one of the nights in Yellowstone. We have done a couple of road trips so kind of know what to expect, and don't want to get too obsessed with seeing all of Yellowstone and miss out on some other great sights. Thanks again!
If you do beartooth you can also do some of yellowstone as long as the beartooth roads are in good shape. It is only a 2hr drive from red lodge to the east entrance of yellowstone. Add another hour to stop along beartooth highway to get some pics. Beartooth highway runs directly into the east entrance of yellowstone. If you are in an rv then all bets are off. Larger vehicles are restricted on beartooth highway cause of all the switchbacks.

Gas and diesel in colorado is closer to $3/gallon than $4 right now but that can change at a moments notice.

2nd the road near thermopolis. Amazing scenery
 
Trying to decide how late in September to leave it but sounds like mid month would be the latest to get benefit of slightly warmer weather?
We lived in Wyoming for 18 years and visited Yellowstone NP several times then when we retired and were living full time we spent a summer in Idaho, just an hour's drive west of the park and while there we would pack a lunch and then to to one particular area of the park and spend all day to really see it in detail. We spent a total of 18 days doing that in the park, spending 2 days at the major gyser basins and then 1 day at the other hotspots of the park. I tell you this just to give you my perspective as one considers Yellowstone to be the #1 attraction for most average people. In my experience, the best times to visit the park are in May and September, because in either case the weather can be chilly but warms up nicely days and there are minimal crowds. Of the two, it's difficult to say which is best but I lean toward September. The average elevation of the park is 8,000 feet or about 2,500 meters so the nights get very cool even in the warmest part of the year and if it rains, then it is cold. But the fall is spectacular and a wonderful time to visit and if touring in a small RV the parking is far less difficult to find and often easy. School here starts in late August to early September so the number of visitors drops dramatically. Best months to avoid crowds: September, October, and April are the best months to visit Yellowstone to avoid the crowds. In September, the summer crowds have diminished, the weather is still relatively warm, and the chances of encountering wildlife are high. Additionally, many of the park’s facilities and roads remain open, offering a full experience of the park’s attractions. You will also have far less problem finding a campsite. Just bring warm clothing and enjoy your visit, That park is large enough to easily take at least several days.
 
Day 2, this is a long drive day, Larmie to Dubois at about 300 miles, nothing much to see here, lots of open land and scrub brush, some of it more / less scenic than other bits.
If you do this route, watch for the herds of Pronghorn Antelope as by September they are gathering into large herds for the coming winter.
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Even if you change plans and fly into Salt Lake City there will be many of them once you cross into Wyoming. The can be difficult to spot so keep a sharp eye out as more than half of the world population of them roam free in WY.
 
Here is my suggested routing (or the reverse) for a Denver to Yellowstone Grand Tetons trip with 3 nights spent on the road to and from Denver (it could be done in 2, but I assume you will get a mid day start after picking up the RV, and need to get supplies on day 1 or day 2)

Day 1 get out of Denver, be aware you will have about 70 miles of on/off city scape driving north out of Denver, with a first night destination around Laramie, Wy Options are I-25 then I-80 (longer by all freeway driving), or I-25 then US 287 to Laramie which is more scenic, but still a good road.
ANother option is to drive west through Denver and take a side trip to Rocky Mountain National Park, spending a couple of nights in the main campground or in Estes Park. There are a couple of fantastic drives through the park, the best is along Trail Ridge Road to the Alpine Visitor Center. You could then drive back to Estes Park and do this drive in one day. Lots of views of gorgeous mountains and valleys, so stop along the way at scenic views. Rocky Mountain Natl Park is one of the major U.S. national parks.

Then from Estes Park, resume your route to Fort Collins and Laramie.

Also, I would definitely spend at least one or two nights at Cody, and visit the Buffalo Bill Center of the West. This is at LEAST a 3-4 hour visit because it is really several museums in one. One of the best, if not the best, western museums in the U.S.

Also, if you drive into Yellowstone through the east entrance from Cody, a good place to stay would be Fishing Bridge.
 
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ANother option is to drive west through Denver and take a side trip to Rocky Mountain National Park, spending a couple of nights in the main campground or in Estes Park. There are a couple of fantastic drives through the park, the best is along Trail Ridge Road to the Alpine Visitor Center. You could then drive back to Estes Park and do this drive in one day. Lots of views of gorgeous mountains and valleys, so stop along the way at scenic views.

Then from Estes Park, resume your route to Fort Collins and Laramie.

Also, I would definitely spend at least one or two nights at Cody, and visit the Buffalo Bill Center of the West. This is at LEAST a 3-4 hour visit because it is really several museums in one. One of the best, if not the best, western museums in the U.S.
Rocky Mtn NP is awesome esp if you can visit during rutting season. Buffalo bill center is awesome too
 
We don't exactly use "internal" flights quite like buses because almost ALL our flights are internal. Consider that New York to San Francisco is a 6 hour, 20 minute, flight and 2,500 miles!! So where could you fly from London in 6 hours?? You could fly from London to Moscow and still have a couple of hours of flight time left.

(Actually, I just realized you could fly from London to New York in only 7 hours. The U.S. is a VERY big country!)
 
We have been focusing on smaller national parks such as wind cave and great sand dunes the past couple of years so maybe this has changed but the more popular parks have implemented crowd contol measures that dont lend themselves to advanced planning. Specifically the lotteries for entrance passes that you have to get the night before is what i am referring to. The rules were different from park to park and even at different times of year at the same park.

Seems like there would be benefits to standardizing things across the park system (and standardize security across all airports for that matter)
 
Not used to internal flights so much in the UK, but guess you guys use them like buses!
Funny you should say that. I flew for a living for many years, both domestic and international. Prior to 9/11, I used to describe our local Bay area airports as being "like bus stations" for taking domestic flights. One could park literally 'at the terminal' and, provided you got there in time to board before they closed the door of the plane, you'd get on. Inevitably, we'd see late arrivals running through the terminal to get to their gate before they closed the door.

Meanwhile, if flying across country, we still had/have to deal with the 'hub' system, which often means two flights with a connection at the respective airline's hub. But with the right airline, departure and destination, one of the two would be a hub, so no connection.
 
Gas and diesel in colorado is closer to $3/gallon than $4 right now but that can change at a moments notice.

2nd the road near thermopolis. Amazing scenery
We were in southern Colorado 2 weeks ago, the highest gas price we saw was $3.69 the day we left to drive home, driving back across Texas it steadily dropped, we paid $2.89 around Amarillo, and it was down to $2.59 in Louisiana just before getting home.
 
We were in southern Colorado 2 weeks ago, the highest gas price we saw was $3.69 the day we left to drive home, driving back across Texas it steadily dropped, we paid $2.89 around Amarillo, and it was down to $2.59 in Louisiana just before getting home.
Yeah it varies quite a bit but you can find lower prices pretty easily especially with something like gas buddy.

In pueblo there is a new station right on i25 that has diesel at $3.19. Gas was more expensive than diesel there. It was the southernmost exit in pueblo. It was slightly higher in colorado springs and denver areas but still well below $4. South of pueblo prices seem to be higher.

Prices change constantly so it wouldnt surprise me if its a lot more expensive the next time i am in that area.
 

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